President Trump announces military strikes on Iran: Operation Epic Fury

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FLBear5630 said:

Yes, at least manslaughter.


Thats insane... but its even more insane and unjust that he's in there for murder
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Oldbear83 said:

Porteroso said:

Oldbear83 said:

Porteroso: " I seem to remember them caring when it was a guy cheating on his wife."

If you are referring to Clinton, most of the anger was that the sitting President was molesting his intern, and lied under oath about it to get out of a legal mess.

Also, JFK and FDR cheated a lot while in office, but no one made any noise about it.

Thr big deal was that he told the entire country a lie, when pressed, then it was proven to be a lie. Americans usually don't like being lied to.

Say it could be proven that Trump is making all this up. That he spoke with Iran. That they agreed on x y z. Would you care, at all?

All you have so far is spite and a long history of it towards the sitting President.

As for lying, every President does it, even Reagan (remember Iran-Contra?). So I absolutely reject the idea that Americans are outraged when a President lies.

The thing about Trump, of course, is that he polarizes opinion. It's why, realistically, he has a lower approval ceiling than most Presidents but also a higher floor.

Also, with regard to negotiations with Iran, it's very possible he could be telling the truth, given how negotiations often go all kinds of places. The Soviets in the Arms talks used to agree to all sorts of things in principle, in order to get good press in the West, then make very different demands when it was pen to paper time. The Iran regime certainly plays that game. That doesn't mean Trump is telling the truth, but whatever is the final result of the talks in no way proves any claim made during them is false, so I am sure Trump knows that and is spinning what he believes is his most advantageous position.



Americans are absolutely outraged when Presidents lie. Half of them at a time. Their narrative just changes with the political season.

You are a perfect example. "But Obama" is your most common refrain, followed with "but Biden..." You are outraged not just by lies but nearly everything they ever did. You are simply a tribal zealot.

And expecting the President to tell the truth about war, is not spiteful lmao. Your worldview is so exquisitely narrow, I am always impressed at how well you avoid reality.
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J.R. said:

Porteroso said:

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boognish_bear said:




Iran has said that this call never happened.

Honestly, at this point, Trump is just running his mouth.

Incredible that Republicans just dont care that Trump lies to the nation, about war with Iran, regularly. I seem to remember them caring when it was a guy cheating on his wife.

Tribalism ruining the country.

can't disagree. I have lost all respect for my former party, Republicans, save a couple. Just a bunch of cowards and the Rs will get theirs in the mid terms unfortunately. Only Piggy to blame. Our country is being run by bat chit crazy dude, married to a former Escort/Hooker (high end, hooker still). Only the best people.

Absolutely, but important to acknowledge that Democrats lie too. Biden absolutely lied about things. Not in the ridiculous way Trump has, but I ies all the same. If you cannot respect most Republicans because of Trump, don't see how you could respect many Democrats.
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303Bear
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boognish_bear said:



Hope its true since this entire conflict should never have happened.

That said, to announce this ~18 hours before the SpaceX IPO goes live (with the markets already exploding in the last couple of hours of trading for the day) is suspect AF IMO.

I remain skeptical until something binding is singed, the bombs stop falling and the Strait is open.
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303Bear said:

boognish_bear said:



Hope its true since this entire conflict should never have happened.

That said, to announce this ~18 hours before the SpaceX IPO goes live (with the markets already exploding in the last couple of hours of trading for the day) is suspect AF IMO.

I remain skeptical until something binding is singed, the bombs stop falling and the Strait is open.


100% agree. We've heard many of these premature declarations.
Oldbear83
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Quite the tantrum from you, Porteroso.

Or did you let Hunter post under your username again?
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303Bear said:

boognish_bear said:



Hope its true since this entire conflict should never have happened.

That said, to announce this ~18 hours before the SpaceX IPO goes live (with the markets already exploding in the last couple of hours of trading for the day) is suspect AF IMO.

I remain skeptical until something binding is singed, the bombs stop falling and the Strait is open.


Markets breaking on rhetoric between combatants is bananas.
BellCountyBear
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What a great day for the USA! Stock market way up...Iran crippled...oil prices down! All of you TDSers can suck it!
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Mitch Blood Green said:

boognish_bear said:




He read this in a book. He has no clue what it means or if any of it is outdated. He might be advocating for Plessy vs. Ferguson.

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BellCountyBear said:

What a great day for the USA! Stock market way up...Iran crippled...oil prices down! All of you TDSers can suck it!


Where's the national debt at?
boognish_bear
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Shocking development

Danielsjackson114
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I'm surprised someone gay has that much power

Additionally, sounds like the Iranian Leadership is very fractured, and disconnected with each other
boognish_bear
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Danielsjackson114 said:

I'm surprised someone gay has that much power



Have you seen the influence Lindsey Graham has had lately?
Porteroso
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Oldbear83 said:

Quite the tantrum from you, Porteroso.

Or did you let Hunter post under your username again?

You just wanted us to know your 3rd best line. Thank you.
Oldbear83
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Porteroso said:

Oldbear83 said:

Quite the tantrum from you, Porteroso.

Or did you let Hunter post under your username again?

You just wanted us to know your 3rd best line. Thank you.

No, I asked a question. You, as always, stayed on script.
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J.R.
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Porteroso said:

J.R. said:

Porteroso said:

Realitybites said:

boognish_bear said:




Iran has said that this call never happened.

Honestly, at this point, Trump is just running his mouth.

Incredible that Republicans just dont care that Trump lies to the nation, about war with Iran, regularly. I seem to remember them caring when it was a guy cheating on his wife.

Tribalism ruining the country.

can't disagree. I have lost all respect for my former party, Republicans, save a couple. Just a bunch of cowards and the Rs will get theirs in the mid terms unfortunately. Only Piggy to blame. Our country is being run by bat chit crazy dude, married to a former Escort/Hooker (high end, hooker still). Only the best people.

Absolutely, but important to acknowledge that Democrats lie too. Biden absolutely lied about things. Not in the ridiculous way Trump has, but I ies all the same. If you cannot respect most Republicans because of Trump, don't see how you could respect many Democrats.

I generally do not like politicians on both sides, that is precisely why im Independent . Trump has taken corruption to a Golden Age for him and the Trump Crime Family. The Art of Grifting. Hey, MAGA boys. Trump does not give 2 chits about you. He has now put it on video.
J.R.
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Danielsjackson114 said:

I'm surprised someone gay has that much power

Additionally, sounds like the Iranian Leadership is very fractured, and disconnected with each other

there is the Twink talking more gayness. You know what they say about people not comfortable with their own sexuality. You are prolly gay. Let you Freak Flag fly lil Twink!
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The_barBEARian said:

BellCountyBear said:

What a great day for the USA! Stock market way up...Iran crippled...oil prices down! All of you TDSers can suck it!


Where's the national debt at?

As bad as your grammar. Lots of blame to go around…just like your grammar.
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boognish_bear said:

Danielsjackson114 said:

I'm surprised someone gay has that much power



Have you seen the influence Lindsey Graham has had lately?

"The dildo of consequences rarely arrives lubed"
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The_barBEARian
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Thanks Boomers... you're the best for voting for human garbage like Tom Cotton! You are going to be remembered as the generation who destroyed America!

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william
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quash said:

boognish_bear said:

Danielsjackson114 said:

I'm surprised so....ham has had lately?



"The dildo of consequences rarely arrives lubed"

HST-eqsue............

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