This is really an 11-team playoff + ND, by heavenly decree.

Hotsauce said:

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This is really an 11-team playoff + ND, by heavenly decree.

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Agreed...ND's 10 wins only include 1 ranked team (USC) and opponents have a combined sub .500 record. But we all grew up loving Rudy and they are the media darlings.

Agree. I think there's only about 5 teams that could win it. I think Tech is actually one of them, as crazy as that is to think. Don't think they will but they are dangerous

Quinton said:

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Can't help but see how much better the execution and fundamentals are with these two teams than Bu.

Consistently sound gap fills, aggressive pass rush while keeping contain, lbs and safeties actually seeing the field and taking good angles.

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We can come up with a front 7 like Tech's. 7 million... At least in 25 dollars, next year will be higher as they had success. I expect it will cost 8 to 9 next year. Write the checks and we are ready to go...


For those saying not with this Coach. Bailey and Height can make any Coach look top notch...

bear2be2 said:

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LTBear19 said:

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Pulling for Tech today.

They'll actually have a chance to make some noise in the CFP, as they'll have a first round bye with a win.

Plus, they have an offense that will keep them in most games.

BYU would likely be a one and done team.

Plus, I could see Tech getting left out altogether with a loss.

So I'd rather see them represent the conference when it's all said and done.

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I don't care who wins. I just want justice served, and this BYU team 100 percent deserves a spot in the CFP.

Not only is that a really good football team, it's significantly better and more deserving than the SMU team that got in with the same regular-season record last year.

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BYU should have scheduled a tougher non-con slate then.

Portland State, Stanford, and ECU don't exactly scream world-beaters.

Scheduling a team like say, Notre Dame, this particular season, and beating them, would have likely ensured their inclusion in the field, regardless of today's outcome.

But a soft non-con schedule, coupled with several close calls, have put them in this 'must-win' situation.

At the end of the day, they control their own destiny. And given where we were just 2 years ago (with only a 4-team CFP), I think most teams would love to be in their shoes right now.

If they lose to the same team once again, then they will have no one to blame but themselves.

Same situation as Bama today, imo.

And Notre Dame has too much pull nationally to be left out of the CFP field, when you start putting them side-by-side with similar teams.

In any case, BYU's argument will be a moot point if they keep tempting fate with fake punts and other suspect play-calls.

Was looking like that botched fake punt had the potential for TT to take early control of the game. Good job by BYU to hold serve there.

Quinton said:

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Can't help but see how much better the execution and fundamentals are with these two teams than Bu.

Consistently sound gap fills, aggressive pass rush while keeping contain, lbs and safeties actually seeing the field and taking good angles.

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They also get off the snap faster than BU.

I noticed that when I saw BYU play in Provo.

BYU's defense is incredibly sound too. If you said we need to drop real money on a real HC, id agree.

Notre Dame has an international fan base. They draw like the Steelers do in the NFL.

And ND gets support from Catholics unlike the way that Baylor draws Baptists.

That fanbase is attractive to the CFP.

Morton has good pocket awareness. He has escaped what looked like several sure sacks.

Terrible series of downs there by Tech. I would've taken a couple more shots at the end zone.

Not sure if the B12 still has any lingering national perception of a video game offense and no defense league...but this game has shown two really sound and disciplined teams.

Been a tough and physical game so far.

Yogi said:

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Quinton said:

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BYU's defense is incredibly sound too. If you said we need to drop real money on a real HC, id agree.

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That too... It has to be someone the money people have confidence in spending 7 million on a front 7...

JudgeBear1845 said:

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Hotsauce said:

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This is really an 11-team playoff + ND, by heavenly decree.

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Agreed...ND's 10 wins only include 1 ranked team (USC) and opponents have a combined sub .500 record. But we all grew up loving Rudy and they are the media darlings.

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Technically, 2 teams. Pitt was also ranked when they dragged them a few weeks back.

So that's one more ranked win than BYU has on their resume.

Overall, Notre Dame has 5 wins over teams with winning records (3 of those teams won 9+ games).

BYU has 6 wins over teams with winning records (2 of those teams won 9+ games).

Gotta remove bias from the equation.

Notre Dame was already a more deserving team than BYU going into today's games, imo.

And that will definitely be the case if BYU doesn't figure out a way to rally in the 2nd half.

Watching BYU on offense is like watching golf on TV. You will doze off from boredom only to wake up 25 minutes later and BYU will have run 7 plays, gained 18 yards and still have the ball.

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— Notre Dame Fighting Irish (@Insidetheirish) December 6, 2025

Watching BYU and Tech, it's so obvious how much better their players are coached. They are in position, they make tackles, they battle for inches.

I don't know that I've ever seen a Baylor team fielded that is as balanced as both of these teams are.

Brett Yormark: "No Power Four team with an 11-1 record has ever finished outside the top 10 in the CFP rankings going into the championship week. BYU has been under appreciated .... BYU has been undervalued."

— Jay Drew (@drewjay) December 6, 2025

Karab said:

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Watching BYU and Tech, it's so obvious how much better their players are coached. They are in position, they make tackles, they battle for inches.

I don't know that I've ever seen a Baylor team fielded that is as balanced as both of these teams are.

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We definitely look like the JV squad next to these two

With the way the TT D is playing I'm surprised Joey didn't take the 3 points to make it a 2 score game.

boognish_bear said:

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Karab said:

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Watching BYU and Tech, it's so obvious how much better their players are coached. They are in position, they make tackles, they battle for inches.

I don't know that I've ever seen a Baylor team fielded that is as balanced as both of these teams are.

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We definitely look like the JV squad next to these two

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What a difference a year makes.

BYU barely held on to beat us at McLane last year, and we wacked Tech in Lubbock by 24 - nearly hanging 60 on them in the process.

Sure hope TT reps well in the CFP. I'm sure back when they scheduled Oregon St they were still a P5 team.

TT's non-conference was certainly weak...but i think they are a legit at least Top 10 team if not better. Hope they look that way in the CFP.

Miami and Notre Dame are both better than these two teams playing for a Big 12 title.

Has anyone noticed that neither BYU or Texas Tech played a decent out of conference opponent???

— Danny Kanell (@dannykanell) December 6, 2025

Ballgame.

BYU's offense can't score 2 TDs in just over a quarter against Tech's D.

Congrats Joey. You've won a Big 12 championship now.

Chance to deliver the knockout blow here

But Joey McGuire, who the players loved, wasn't good enough for Baylor

LTBear19 said:

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JudgeBear1845 said:

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Hotsauce said:

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This is really an 11-team playoff + ND, by heavenly decree.

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Agreed...ND's 10 wins only include 1 ranked team (USC) and opponents have a combined sub .500 record. But we all grew up loving Rudy and they are the media darlings.

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Technically, 2 teams. Pitt was also ranked when they dragged them a few weeks back.

So that's one more ranked win than BYU has on their resume.

Overall, Notre Dame has 5 wins over teams with winning records (3 of those teams won 9+ games).

BYU has 6 wins over teams with winning records (2 of those teams won 9+ games).

Gotta remove bias from the equation.

Notre Dame was already a more deserving team than BYU going into today's games, imo.

And that will definitely be the case if BYU doesn't figure out a way to rally in the 2nd half.

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IMO, you can't look "back at that time" as far as ranked wins. You have teams over ranked/under ranked and as the season progresses teams fall where they should be. Under that thought, Oregon beat #3 ranked Penn State in Week 4. Was Penn State truly a top 3 ranked team? I don't think so. You have to look at it as of today with current rankings.

So BYU beat 2 ranked teams, btw. Utah and AZ. Meanwhile ND neat 1 ranked team, USC.

Of course this is all a moot point as Tech is running away with the win...

Karab said:

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Watching BYU and Tech, it's so obvious how much better their players are coached. They are in position, they make tackles, they battle for inches.

I don't know that I've ever seen a Baylor team fielded that is as balanced as both of these teams are.

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it;s beautiful football. it's the complete opposite of watching a baylor game.

Game, set, match

Tech has to have the best overall LB group in the country. Roberts and Rodriguez are legit and fun to watch.

LTBear19 said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Karab said:

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Watching BYU and Tech, it's so obvious how much better their players are coached. They are in position, they make tackles, they battle for inches.

I don't know that I've ever seen a Baylor team fielded that is as balanced as both of these teams are.

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We definitely look like the JV squad next to these two

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What a difference a year makes.

BYU barely held on to beat us at McLane last year, and we wacked Tech in Lubbock by 24 - nearly hanging 60 on them in the process.

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$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ can buy football happiness. The lack thereof, well, you're looking at the program.

texas tech would wipe miami

LTBear19 said:

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bear2be2 said:

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LTBear19 said:

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Pulling for Tech today.

They'll actually have a chance to make some noise in the CFP, as they'll have a first round bye with a win.

Plus, they have an offense that will keep them in most games.

BYU would likely be a one and done team.

Plus, I could see Tech getting left out altogether with a loss.

So I'd rather see them represent the conference when it's all said and done.

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I don't care who wins. I just want justice served, and this BYU team 100 percent deserves a spot in the CFP.

Not only is that a really good football team, it's significantly better and more deserving than the SMU team that got in with the same regular-season record last year.

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BYU should have scheduled a tougher non-con slate then.

Portland State, Stanford, and ECU don't exactly scream world-beaters.

Scheduling a team like say, Notre Dame, this particular season, and beating them, would have likely ensured their inclusion in the field, regardless of today's outcome.

But a soft non-con schedule, coupled with several close calls, have put them in this 'must-win' situation.

At the end of the day, they control their own destiny. And given where we were just 2 years ago (with only a 4-team CFP), I think most teams would love to be in their shoes right now.

If they lose to the same team once again, then they will have no one to blame but themselves.

Same situation as Bama today, imo.

And Notre Dame has too much pull nationally to be left out of the CFP field, when you start putting them side-by-side with similar teams.

In any case, BYU's argument will be a moot point if they keep tempting fate with fake punts and other suspect play-calls.

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You can't just "schedule a tougher nonconference slate." Those things are cemented a decade in advance.

And in BYU's case, in particular, most of their good nonconference options either became conference mates or moved to the Big Ten and won't schedule them now.

No 11-win power conference team has ever been left out of the playoff. That precedent shouldn't be set this year with a BYU team that is better than the SMU team they let in a year ago..

No, they wouldn't