Week 15 - Championship Week!

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bear2be2
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Tech is just really freaking good this year. That defense is elite elite.
LTBear19
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JudgeBear1845 said:

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JudgeBear1845 said:

Hotsauce said:

This is really an 11-team playoff + ND, by heavenly decree.

Agreed...ND's 10 wins only include 1 ranked team (USC) and opponents have a combined sub .500 record. But we all grew up loving Rudy and they are the media darlings.


Technically, 2 teams. Pitt was also ranked when they dragged them a few weeks back.

So that's one more ranked win than BYU has on their resume.

Overall, Notre Dame has 5 wins over teams with winning records (3 of those teams won 9+ games).

BYU has 6 wins over teams with winning records (2 of those teams won 9+ games).

Gotta remove bias from the equation.

Notre Dame was already a more deserving team than BYU going into today's games, imo.

And that will definitely be the case if BYU doesn't figure out a way to rally in the 2nd half.

IMO, you can't look "back at that time" as far as ranked wins. You have teams over ranked/under ranked and as the season progresses teams fall where they should be. Under that thought, Oregon beat #3 ranked Penn State in Week 4. Was Penn State truly a top 3 ranked team? I don't think so. You have to look at it as of today with current rankings.

So BYU beat 2 ranked teams, btw. Utah and AZ. Meanwhile ND neat 1 ranked team, USC.

Of course this is all a moot point as Tech is running away with the win...


I agree to an extent about rankings.

But Pitt was ranked just 2 weeks ago.

Had the Panthers not lost to Miami last week, they would still be ranked and playing for the ACC Crown tonight.

So Notre Dame's win against Pitt was legit.

Penn State lost to Oregon on Sept 27. Big difference.

But you're right. BYU is getting run out of the stadium at the moment, so it doesn't even matter.
Bearsalwayswin
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I think they would. Not being snarky just wondering why you think that.
Realitybites
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BYU's argument to be included in the College Football Playoff ended today.

They stepped onto the field with Texas Tech and were dominated again.

31-7 Tech, midway through the 4th quarter, the last game ended 29-7. That's a 60-14 deficit and an 0-2 record.

They were outgained 352 to 177 to this point, and only have managed 52 rushing yards.
JudgeBear1845
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BYU doing their best Baylor...
IowaBear
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Well for 1 Miami has a DL on the same level if not better than Techs. Tech is really good. They also have a roster full of bought & paid for guys 90% of the b12 can't afford the players Campbell is buying tech. They aren't going to have that advantage in the playoffs. Miami dude for dude is every bit as good as tech.
That's not me saying Steph can't win in the playoffs. That's me saying every possible opponent is going to be as talented if not more talented.
Quinton
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Now they're talking up our former staff. Gut punches won't end until David is done
Bearsalwayswin
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i get that for sure, but i don't trust beck at all. and they lost to smu. someone else beat smu and we all know how good that team is..:
TechDawgMc
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If Alabama beats Georgia, Tech could easily wind up the #2 seed. Even if that is a tad over rated, it's still pretty impressive
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bear2be2 said:

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bear2be2 said:

LTBear19 said:

Pulling for Tech today.

They'll actually have a chance to make some noise in the CFP, as they'll have a first round bye with a win.

Plus, they have an offense that will keep them in most games.

BYU would likely be a one and done team.

Plus, I could see Tech getting left out altogether with a loss.

So I'd rather see them represent the conference when it's all said and done.

I don't care who wins. I just want justice served, and this BYU team 100 percent deserves a spot in the CFP.

Not only is that a really good football team, it's significantly better and more deserving than the SMU team that got in with the same regular-season record last year.


BYU should have scheduled a tougher non-con slate then.

Portland State, Stanford, and ECU don't exactly scream world-beaters.

Scheduling a team like say, Notre Dame, this particular season, and beating them, would have likely ensured their inclusion in the field, regardless of today's outcome.

But a soft non-con schedule, coupled with several close calls, have put them in this 'must-win' situation.

At the end of the day, they control their own destiny. And given where we were just 2 years ago (with only a 4-team CFP), I think most teams would love to be in their shoes right now.

If they lose to the same team once again, then they will have no one to blame but themselves.

Same situation as Bama today, imo.

And Notre Dame has too much pull nationally to be left out of the CFP field, when you start putting them side-by-side with similar teams.

In any case, BYU's argument will be a moot point if they keep tempting fate with fake punts and other suspect play-calls.

You can't just "schedule a tougher nonconference slate." Those things are cemented a decade in advance.

And in BYU's case, in particular, most of their good nonconference options either became conference mates or moved to the Big Ten and won't schedule them now.

No 11-win power conference team has ever been left out of the playoff. That precedent shouldn't be set this year with a BYU team that is better than the SMU team they let in a year ago..


Well, that's definitely about to change this year. BYU is getting smoked and is proving they have no business being anywhere near the CFP.

I'm not sure BYU would have beaten us today.

And yes, you can make changes to your schedule if you REALLY want to.

Notre Dame is independent, and doesn't shy away from hardly anyone. I seriously doubt Notre Dame would have declined a home and home with BYU if the Cougars had chosen to take ECU off the schedule.

Once again, moot point. BYU is getting wrecked. No pun intended.
wgeralds
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texas tech - "marrying the air raid principles with the run game"... where have i seen that work super successfully before?
IowaBear
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The outcome of SMU has zero bearing on a hypothetical Miami/Tech matchup. Tech has had 4-5 times the talent of every B12 team they've played. They aren't getting that advantage in the playoffs. I'll root for Tech because the B12 desperately needs a playoff win. But until they beat a team that matches them dude for dude I'll remain skeptical
Bearsalwayswin
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I understand tech not being all that. specifically i think tech couldn't beat a bama or uga. i just have 0 belief in miami
IowaBear
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And this isn't me saying I'd pick Miami in that hypothetical. I just see no way Tech blows them out. Miami has tons of talent. Right now the bracket would have Tech/Oregon quarters. Tech would better chance right away against a team on equal footing
Bearsalwayswin
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Understand that for sure.
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boognish_bear said:

Sure hope TT reps well in the CFP. I'm sure back when they scheduled Oregon St they were still a P5 team.

TT's non-conference was certainly weak...but i think they are a legit at least Top 10 team if not better. Hope they look that way in the CFP.





Other than BYU beating Stanford who beat Cal who beat SMU who beat Miami who beat Notre Dame.
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LTBear19 said:

bear2be2 said:

LTBear19 said:

bear2be2 said:

LTBear19 said:

Pulling for Tech today.

They'll actually have a chance to make some noise in the CFP, as they'll have a first round bye with a win.

Plus, they have an offense that will keep them in most games.

BYU would likely be a one and done team.

Plus, I could see Tech getting left out altogether with a loss.

So I'd rather see them represent the conference when it's all said and done.

I don't care who wins. I just want justice served, and this BYU team 100 percent deserves a spot in the CFP.

Not only is that a really good football team, it's significantly better and more deserving than the SMU team that got in with the same regular-season record last year.


BYU should have scheduled a tougher non-con slate then.

Portland State, Stanford, and ECU don't exactly scream world-beaters.

Scheduling a team like say, Notre Dame, this particular season, and beating them, would have likely ensured their inclusion in the field, regardless of today's outcome.

But a soft non-con schedule, coupled with several close calls, have put them in this 'must-win' situation.

At the end of the day, they control their own destiny. And given where we were just 2 years ago (with only a 4-team CFP), I think most teams would love to be in their shoes right now.

If they lose to the same team once again, then they will have no one to blame but themselves.

Same situation as Bama today, imo.

And Notre Dame has too much pull nationally to be left out of the CFP field, when you start putting them side-by-side with similar teams.

In any case, BYU's argument will be a moot point if they keep tempting fate with fake punts and other suspect play-calls.

You can't just "schedule a tougher nonconference slate." Those things are cemented a decade in advance.

And in BYU's case, in particular, most of their good nonconference options either became conference mates or moved to the Big Ten and won't schedule them now.

No 11-win power conference team has ever been left out of the playoff. That precedent shouldn't be set this year with a BYU team that is better than the SMU team they let in a year ago..


Well, that's definitely about to change this year. BYU is getting smoked and is proving they have no business being anywhere near the CFP.

I'm not sure BYU would have beaten us today.

And yes, you can make changes to your schedule if you REALLY want to.

Notre Dame is independent, and doesn't shy away from hardly anyone. I seriously doubt Notre Dame would have declined a home and home with BYU if the Cougars had chosen to take ECU off the schedule.

Once again, moot point. BYU is getting wrecked. No pun intended.

BYU would have beaten us today and most days. Tech is just really freaking good. That defense is going to make other good offenses look bad before this season is over.
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IowaBear said:

The outcome of SMU has zero bearing on a hypothetical Miami/Tech matchup. Tech has had 4-5 times the talent of every B12 team they've played. They aren't getting that advantage in the playoffs. I'll root for Tech because the B12 desperately needs a playoff win. But until they beat a team that matches them dude for dude I'll remain skeptical

This Tech defense is one of the best in the country. It will keep Tech in any game it plays.

Defense travels, and this defense is as legit as it gets.
bear2be2
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Bearsalwayswin said:

I understand tech not being all that. specifically i think tech couldn't beat a bama or uga. i just have 0 belief in miami

This Tech defense is all that.

Their offense may lose them a close game in the playoff, but this defense is un-freaking-real.
Quinton
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bear2be2 said:

IowaBear said:

The outcome of SMU has zero bearing on a hypothetical Miami/Tech matchup. Tech has had 4-5 times the talent of every B12 team they've played. They aren't getting that advantage in the playoffs. I'll root for Tech because the B12 desperately needs a playoff win. But until they beat a team that matches them dude for dude I'll remain skeptical

This Tech defense is one of the best in the country. It will keep Tech in any game it plays.

Defense travels, and this defense is as legit as it gets.


Georgia and Ohio st when locked in could completely break them down.. I agree on everyone else.

Georgia would look like those games against Texas where they lock in and take their will
UTExan
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Nobody has even mentioned Tarleton State is up 31-13 on North Dakota in the 2nd round of FCS playoffs.
boognish_bear
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Not a difficult code to crack

bear2be2
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boognish_bear said:

Not a difficult code to crack



Money isn't required to make a bowl game out of the Big 12. He and his Baylor colleagues need to shut their mouths about other programs.
Quinton
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boognish_bear said:

Not a difficult code to crack




Yep, they're banking on massive ability to fund raise with this hire. Extremely risky move but guess we'll just have to wait and see.

And even if they get a huge influx of cash would be so much better to use with a great HC instead of a dude who will need millions to drag him to 8 wins.
boognish_bear
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bear2be2 said:

boognish_bear said:

Not a difficult code to crack



Money isn't required to make a bowl game out of the Big 12. He and his Baylor colleagues need to shut their mouths about other programs.


I did not take that as him taking a shot at TT. If anything I thought maybe it was a message to his own program...like "hey listen up."

I mean he was wearing "we pay players" last year. I don't think he's opposed to playing that game.
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Texas Tech has an excellent football team.

IMO they could win the national championship.
boognish_bear
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KaiBear said:

Texas Tech has an excellent football team.

IMO they could win the national championship.


They are legit one of the top teams in the country. I'm not sure they can take on Ohio State or Georgia/Bama...but they are really good.

I sure as hell hope they win their first game.
boognish_bear
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Not happening

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bear2be2 said:

Bearsalwayswin said:

I understand tech not being all that. specifically i think tech couldn't beat a bama or uga. i just have 0 belief in miami

This Tech defense is all that.

Their offense may lose them a close game in the playoff, but this defense is un-freaking-real.


That D is not out of the question. It was bought. Get an AD that is mot scared to buy players and we are there. I give Joey credit for giving him the shopping list.
boognish_bear
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Barf

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boognish_bear said:

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boognish_bear
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Yep… the first step is having the money to buy the talent... the next step is identifying the right talent to buy.

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Great win by Tech earlier. Absolutely destroyed BYU

Georgia looking really good right now. I guess we are pulling for the Bulldogs so BYU has a shot at getting in. But them getting trounced so bad may have moved them back a bit
"An unexamined life is not worth living." - Socrates
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