JudgeBear1845 said:LTBear19 said:JudgeBear1845 said:Hotsauce said:
This is really an 11-team playoff + ND, by heavenly decree.
Agreed...ND's 10 wins only include 1 ranked team (USC) and opponents have a combined sub .500 record. But we all grew up loving Rudy and they are the media darlings.
Technically, 2 teams. Pitt was also ranked when they dragged them a few weeks back.
So that's one more ranked win than BYU has on their resume.
Overall, Notre Dame has 5 wins over teams with winning records (3 of those teams won 9+ games).
BYU has 6 wins over teams with winning records (2 of those teams won 9+ games).
Gotta remove bias from the equation.
Notre Dame was already a more deserving team than BYU going into today's games, imo.
And that will definitely be the case if BYU doesn't figure out a way to rally in the 2nd half.
IMO, you can't look "back at that time" as far as ranked wins. You have teams over ranked/under ranked and as the season progresses teams fall where they should be. Under that thought, Oregon beat #3 ranked Penn State in Week 4. Was Penn State truly a top 3 ranked team? I don't think so. You have to look at it as of today with current rankings.
So BYU beat 2 ranked teams, btw. Utah and AZ. Meanwhile ND neat 1 ranked team, USC.
Of course this is all a moot point as Tech is running away with the win...
bear2be2 said:LTBear19 said:bear2be2 said:LTBear19 said:
Pulling for Tech today.
They'll actually have a chance to make some noise in the CFP, as they'll have a first round bye with a win.
Plus, they have an offense that will keep them in most games.
BYU would likely be a one and done team.
Plus, I could see Tech getting left out altogether with a loss.
So I'd rather see them represent the conference when it's all said and done.
I don't care who wins. I just want justice served, and this BYU team 100 percent deserves a spot in the CFP.
Not only is that a really good football team, it's significantly better and more deserving than the SMU team that got in with the same regular-season record last year.
BYU should have scheduled a tougher non-con slate then.
Portland State, Stanford, and ECU don't exactly scream world-beaters.
Scheduling a team like say, Notre Dame, this particular season, and beating them, would have likely ensured their inclusion in the field, regardless of today's outcome.
But a soft non-con schedule, coupled with several close calls, have put them in this 'must-win' situation.
At the end of the day, they control their own destiny. And given where we were just 2 years ago (with only a 4-team CFP), I think most teams would love to be in their shoes right now.
If they lose to the same team once again, then they will have no one to blame but themselves.
Same situation as Bama today, imo.
And Notre Dame has too much pull nationally to be left out of the CFP field, when you start putting them side-by-side with similar teams.
In any case, BYU's argument will be a moot point if they keep tempting fate with fake punts and other suspect play-calls.
You can't just "schedule a tougher nonconference slate." Those things are cemented a decade in advance.
And in BYU's case, in particular, most of their good nonconference options either became conference mates or moved to the Big Ten and won't schedule them now.
No 11-win power conference team has ever been left out of the playoff. That precedent shouldn't be set this year with a BYU team that is better than the SMU team they let in a year ago..
boognish_bear said:
Sure hope TT reps well in the CFP. I'm sure back when they scheduled Oregon St they were still a P5 team.
TT's non-conference was certainly weak...but i think they are a legit at least Top 10 team if not better. Hope they look that way in the CFP.Miami and Notre Dame are both better than these two teams playing for a Big 12 title.
— Danny Kanell (@dannykanell) December 6, 2025
Has anyone noticed that neither BYU or Texas Tech played a decent out of conference opponent???
LTBear19 said:bear2be2 said:LTBear19 said:bear2be2 said:LTBear19 said:
Pulling for Tech today.
They'll actually have a chance to make some noise in the CFP, as they'll have a first round bye with a win.
Plus, they have an offense that will keep them in most games.
BYU would likely be a one and done team.
Plus, I could see Tech getting left out altogether with a loss.
So I'd rather see them represent the conference when it's all said and done.
I don't care who wins. I just want justice served, and this BYU team 100 percent deserves a spot in the CFP.
Not only is that a really good football team, it's significantly better and more deserving than the SMU team that got in with the same regular-season record last year.
BYU should have scheduled a tougher non-con slate then.
Portland State, Stanford, and ECU don't exactly scream world-beaters.
Scheduling a team like say, Notre Dame, this particular season, and beating them, would have likely ensured their inclusion in the field, regardless of today's outcome.
But a soft non-con schedule, coupled with several close calls, have put them in this 'must-win' situation.
At the end of the day, they control their own destiny. And given where we were just 2 years ago (with only a 4-team CFP), I think most teams would love to be in their shoes right now.
If they lose to the same team once again, then they will have no one to blame but themselves.
Same situation as Bama today, imo.
And Notre Dame has too much pull nationally to be left out of the CFP field, when you start putting them side-by-side with similar teams.
In any case, BYU's argument will be a moot point if they keep tempting fate with fake punts and other suspect play-calls.
You can't just "schedule a tougher nonconference slate." Those things are cemented a decade in advance.
And in BYU's case, in particular, most of their good nonconference options either became conference mates or moved to the Big Ten and won't schedule them now.
No 11-win power conference team has ever been left out of the playoff. That precedent shouldn't be set this year with a BYU team that is better than the SMU team they let in a year ago..
Well, that's definitely about to change this year. BYU is getting smoked and is proving they have no business being anywhere near the CFP.
I'm not sure BYU would have beaten us today.
And yes, you can make changes to your schedule if you REALLY want to.
Notre Dame is independent, and doesn't shy away from hardly anyone. I seriously doubt Notre Dame would have declined a home and home with BYU if the Cougars had chosen to take ECU off the schedule.
Once again, moot point. BYU is getting wrecked. No pun intended.
IowaBear said:
The outcome of SMU has zero bearing on a hypothetical Miami/Tech matchup. Tech has had 4-5 times the talent of every B12 team they've played. They aren't getting that advantage in the playoffs. I'll root for Tech because the B12 desperately needs a playoff win. But until they beat a team that matches them dude for dude I'll remain skeptical
Bearsalwayswin said:
I understand tech not being all that. specifically i think tech couldn't beat a bama or uga. i just have 0 belief in miami
bear2be2 said:IowaBear said:
The outcome of SMU has zero bearing on a hypothetical Miami/Tech matchup. Tech has had 4-5 times the talent of every B12 team they've played. They aren't getting that advantage in the playoffs. I'll root for Tech because the B12 desperately needs a playoff win. But until they beat a team that matches them dude for dude I'll remain skeptical
This Tech defense is one of the best in the country. It will keep Tech in any game it plays.
Defense travels, and this defense is as legit as it gets.
boognish_bear said:
Not a difficult code to crack💰💰💰🟰 🏆
— Coach Khenon Hall (BAYLOR) (@CoachK_Hall) December 6, 2025
boognish_bear said:
Not a difficult code to crack💰💰💰🟰 🏆
— Coach Khenon Hall (BAYLOR) (@CoachK_Hall) December 6, 2025
bear2be2 said:boognish_bear said:
Not a difficult code to crack💰💰💰🟰 🏆
— Coach Khenon Hall (BAYLOR) (@CoachK_Hall) December 6, 2025
Money isn't required to make a bowl game out of the Big 12. He and his Baylor colleagues need to shut their mouths about other programs.
KaiBear said:
Texas Tech has an excellent football team.
IMO they could win the national championship.
BYU lost twice to the #4 team in the country. Texas Tech is a GREAT team. BYU should still be in the College Football Playoff at 11-2 with the 2 best losses of any team in the country. 11 win teams shouldn’t be punished for the result of the Conference Championship game. Period. pic.twitter.com/mSb9PA5g6D
— Robert Griffin III (@RGIII) December 6, 2025
bear2be2 said:Bearsalwayswin said:
I understand tech not being all that. specifically i think tech couldn't beat a bama or uga. i just have 0 belief in miami
This Tech defense is all that.
Their offense may lose them a close game in the playoff, but this defense is un-freaking-real.
"I actually think we deserve seven [teams] in [the CFP].
— SEC Network (@SECNetwork) December 6, 2025
SEC commissioner Greg Sankey shares his thoughts on how many teams should make the CFP 👀 pic.twitter.com/wcyo21iqJT
Texas Tech is good enough to win a national championship. They will be a dangerous team in the playoff.
— Matt Leinart (@MattLeinartQB) December 6, 2025
boognish_bear said:
Barf"I actually think we deserve seven [teams] in [the CFP].
— SEC Network (@SECNetwork) December 6, 2025
SEC commissioner Greg Sankey shares his thoughts on how many teams should make the CFP 👀 pic.twitter.com/wcyo21iqJT
?w=716&ssl=1 Good on Jesse Palmer to mention Texas Tech GM James Blanchard as the Red Raiders D has totally taken over this game. Yes, Tech has spent a fortune building this roster, but Blanchard spent it wisely. That's not a given in these Portal days.
— Bruce Feldman (@BruceFeldmanCFB) December 6, 2025
BYU averaged 36 points per game against everyone but Texas Tech
— PFF College (@PFF_College) December 6, 2025
In two matchups against Texas Tech they’ve averaged only 7 points per game 😳 https://t.co/32y4rmGxmr pic.twitter.com/QpFERMPhAA