Why not Mike Gundy?

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12:04p, 12/4/25
Quite obviously Mike Gundy's star is dimmed by the 2024 and 2025 Oklahoma State seasons, wherein he was 4-11. Yet lifetime he was 170-90

That included 12 wins in 2011, and 10-win seasons in 2013, 2015, 2016, 2017 and 2023.

Mike Gundy is available. His brother Cale (an assistant coach at OU), says Mike still wants to coach and Cale would come with him:

https://www.oklahoman.com/story/sports/college/cowboys/2025/09/26/cale-gundy-brother-mike-gundy-oklahoma-state-football-coach-fired/86355598007/

We could expect that Gundy would also bring along the many OSU players who are transferring due to his firing.

Gundy was a superb QB who played with Barry Sanders and Thurman Thomas. As coach, he placed 40 players in the NFL; actually over 50 were signed by the NFL but some did not make final rosters. Deion Sanders considers Gundy as a personal hero.

It also helps that Gundy was a QB assistant coach at Baylor back in 1996.

The obvious defect with Gundy--that he did not adjust to NIL at Oklahoma State--surely is curable and he undoubtedly is motivated to overcome that, just as Baylor has been overcoming it. He has many years of proven ability to recruit successfully to play in the Big XII.

Is there a gamble involved? Yes, of course. But nothing else could provide a spark for Baylor football as hiring Gundy would do. We have nothing to lose!

I say GO WITH GUNDY!
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Mitch Blood Green
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12:08p, 12/4/25
He's not 40.
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In reply to Mitch Blood Green • 12:11p, 12/4/25
Mitch Blood Green said:
He's not 40.

He's 58. That's good enough.
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12:12p, 12/4/25
We could do worse…and probably will.
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Mitch Blood Green
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In reply to BearlyBeloved • 12:13p, 12/4/25
BearlyBeloved said:
Mitch Blood Green said:
He's not 40.

He's 58. That's good enough.


Are we talking about Practice?
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Aliceinbubbleland
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12:17p, 12/4/25
Gigantic NO. He is the reason OSU failed in NIL per topics. There are much better retreads out there.

Anyone but the aggies please
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12:36p, 12/4/25
The game has passed him by. Besides, no retreads please. Let's get some new blood. There are hundreds of coordinators and lower division coaches who are ready to take the next step. One of them has to be qualified. We just need to hire a resourceful AD to make it happen.
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12:37p, 12/4/25
Gundy is a no as poster above mentioned… he absolutely failed post NIL. Couldn't or wouldn't do it.

Brian Kelly is a major no.

Jimbo Fisher is a no.

Will Muschamp is a no. (Unless DC maybe)

Mark Stoops is a no. (Unless DC maybe)

Billy Napier is a no. (Basically Dave Aranda. Teams look good on paper but can't execute on the field)
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12:57p, 12/4/25
Let's avoid the "any port in a storm" search.
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1:13p, 12/4/25
Shouldn't we fire Aranda first? The landscape changes next year.
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1:38p, 12/4/25
I contend that it is easier to get Mike Gundy to accept the NIL era than to cure the problems attributed to CDA.

Obviously interviewing Gundy would focus on his willingness to embrace the reality of NIL/transfer. That's the very process that Baylor went through in the last two years. Gundy is smart and he knows that his future absolutely requires that he now buy in, just as Baylor has done.

The point has been made elsewhere on this board that Baylor and other schools have hired NIL managers to handle the compensation, just as the NFL's general managers must make the money decisions, not the coaches. Coaches say who they want and do the rest of the recruiting, but each team has its money people who then must make it happen.

Gundy checks all the other boxes. Big time. Nobody doubts that he can coach and develop players (on both sides of the ball). Players want to play for him. He has fire and leadership.

And Gundy is available NOW.

He also will bring players with him immediately.

Again, I contend that it is easier to get Mike Gundy to accept the NIL era than to cure the problems attributed to CDA. Gundy's ability to develop and motivate players is totally proven. Isn't that what we lack and need?
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2:29p, 12/4/25
Gundy is probably a no. But he would have won at least 8 with this roster, I have no doubt about that. He's an upgrade and much better football coach than Dave. His issues were from talent drain and nil.

Mullen is the only retread that should be a possibility
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3:12p, 12/4/25
I heard he is a man. My answer is NO!
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In reply to BearlyBeloved • 3:12p, 12/4/25
BearlyBeloved said:
I contend that it is easier to get Mike Gundy to accept the NIL era than to cure the problems attributed to CDA.

We're in the hole now because Dave feels the same way as Mike (they hate the 'transactional' nature of professionalized CFB) and took a similarly recalcitrant approach to the new world order as Gundy from '22 through '23.

Otherwise we'd have had solid depth this past season with players like Taurean York wearing green & gold instead of maroon. But alas, here we are.

Dave reversed course after '23, but after 5-7 it sure feels like that was too little to late.

Gundy, however, rage-coasted into getting fired by his beloved alma mater to which he'd dedicated much of his life - that's how much he hates the modern era. Mike ain't getting back into coaching unless there is a total overhaul to whole system.
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In reply to BearlyBeloved • 3:17p, 12/4/25
This is a PERFECT take on Gundy!
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3:30p, 12/4/25
NIL can be solved by the AD. Gundy (or someone like him is what I want). If he was still alive, I'd pick Bum Phillips. Gundy:
  • Fits with Texas culture (eats meat, wears boots, fishes, hunts and sports an occasional mullet)
  • Has coached at Baylor before
  • Donors/NIL sponsors will love him
  • He is a media favorite
  • Stands for something and speaks his mind
  • Somebody I'd want to get behind
Whether it is Gundy or not, he needs to be one of us, someone we wholeheartedly support.

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3:37p, 12/4/25
The only sticking point with Gundy seems to be the legitimate concern of whether his love for the game and its players is strong enough to overcome his personal distaste of the NIL era.

I suspect that the personal feelings of a great many of us are very similar to his. But I also observe that we (as a collective) are putting those feelings aside and accepting reality.

Having already suffered by being fired (consoled only by a few million dollars in severance), my opinion is that Gundy is ready to suck it up and embrace reality to continue his beloved profession. And he is benefited by the growing institutionalization of schools' having a football general manager (my term) who handles the dollar evaluation and disbursements, allowing the HC to focus on developing and motivating his talent to win games.

If people believed that the already-chastised Gundy will do this, there should be no question that he excels at coaching and motivating his team. That is our biggest need. Baylor has addressed the money issues; we need a better coach not a money manager.

Remember that a couple of years back Gundy also took a voluntary $1-M annual pay cut to free up NIL money for OSU.

To my thinking, Gundy is a chance well worth taking. The upside is quite large. As far the downside--does anyone actually believe we would be worse off with CMG than with CDA??
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3:41p, 12/4/25
Because he just crashed and burned in the modern era at a school with more support than Baylor?
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In reply to BearlyBeloved • 3:42p, 12/4/25
BearlyBeloved said:
The only sticking point with Gundy seems to be the legitimate concern of whether his love for the game and its players is strong enough to overcome his personal distaste of the NIL era.

I suspect that the personal feelings of a great many of us are very similar to his. But I also observe that we (as a collective) are putting those feelings aside and accepting reality.

Having already suffered by being fired (consoled only by a few million dollars in severance), my opinion is that Gundy is ready to suck it up and embrace reality to continue his beloved profession. And he is benefited by the growing institutionalization of schools' having a football general manager (my term) who handles the dollar evaluation and disbursements, allowing the HC to focus on developing and motivating his talent to win games.

If people believed that the already-chastised Gundy will do this, there should be no question that he excels at coaching and motivating his team. That is our biggest need. Baylor has addressed the money issues; we need a better coach not a money manager.

Remember that a couple of years back Gundy also took a voluntary $1-M annual pay cut to free up NIL money for OSU.

To my thinking, Gundy is a chance well worth taking. The upside is quite large. As far the downside--does anyone actually believe we would be worse off with CMG than with CDA??

If we're not going to put up a decent NIL fund, then hire anyone that you can for cheap and wait for realignment to do us in for good.
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3:51p, 12/4/25
I would support Gundy if he can support the reality of NIL

It would be refreshing to have a coach with some personality for a change.
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In reply to Robert Wilson • 3:52p, 12/4/25
Robert Wilson said:
Because he just crashed and burned in the modern era at a school with more support than Baylor?

Gundy literally made the Pokes fire him over this very topic, but now he's gonna be zen about it and evolve with the times to lead Baylor into a glorious new future?

Battered Baylor Fan syndrome is reaching new levels I didn't think were possible. Most of us* are doing this in our own ways right now:






*mine is that a magic new AD will be the missing ingredient and get things turned around.
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3:59p, 12/4/25
He doesn't fit the personality type that Baylor wants, so I'm thinking he probably isn't a candidate. Not sure how many coaches really are, though.

As far as coaching, I feel like he's past his prime and hasn't really adapted much to the game. I wouldn't hate it so much as at least he's a legit head coach. But I wouldn't love it for the upside potential being much more than where we have been for the past several years.

He'll probably end up someplace like Arkansas State, or maybe one of those analysts for somebody big time like Bama, the ones that have money to burn.
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In reply to Robert Wilson • 4:12p, 12/4/25
Robert Wilson said:
Because he just crashed and burned in the modern era at a school with more support than Baylor?


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In reply to BearlyBeloved • 4:47p, 12/4/25
BearlyBeloved said:
Robert Wilson said:
Because he just crashed and burned in the modern era at a school with more support than Baylor?



Then let's just save ourselves some money and keep Aranda.
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4:57p, 12/4/25
I think Gundy flamed out… he was tired and disgusted. But if he was rejuvenated he's young enough to be a force. He's a football coach, and a good one, and has proven it at the highest level. If he was on board with what it takes today to build a team to compete there's no doubt he'd be successful.

I'd be excited if he really wanted our job.
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In reply to BearlyBeloved • 5:34p, 12/4/25
BearlyBeloved said:
I contend that it is easier to get Mike Gundy to accept the NIL era than to cure the problems attributed to CDA.

Obviously interviewing Gundy would focus on his willingness to embrace the reality of NIL/transfer. That's the very process that Baylor went through in the last two years. Gundy is smart and he knows that his future absolutely requires that he now buy in, just as Baylor has done.

The point has been made elsewhere on this board that Baylor and other schools have hired NIL managers to handle the compensation, just as the NFL's general managers must make the money decisions, not the coaches. Coaches say who they want and do the rest of the recruiting, but each team has its money people who then must make it happen.

Gundy checks all the other boxes. Big time. Nobody doubts that he can coach and develop players (on both sides of the ball). Players want to play for him. He has fire and leadership.

And Gundy is available NOW.

He also will bring players with him immediately.

Again, I contend that it is easier to get Mike Gundy to accept the NIL era than to cure the problems attributed to CDA. Gundy's ability to develop and motivate players is totally proven. Isn't that what we lack and need?

This is a PERFECT take on Gundy!
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In reply to sporthree • 8:00p, 12/4/25
Oh please. Where else but a Baylor fan board would people be pleading the case for a person as failed as Gundy when it comes to modern football. Do you really think this guy is suddenly going to say Oh, I need a bagman to buy players?

If you're going to state a case for a retread there are 10 better.

Anyone but the aggies please
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In reply to Aliceinbubbleland • 10:17a, 12/5/25
Aliceinbubbleland said:
Oh please. Where else but a Baylor fan board would people be pleading the case for a person as failed as Gundy when it comes to modern football. Do you really think this guy is suddenly going to say Oh, I need a bagman to buy players?

If you're going to state a case for a retread there are 10 better.

The perfect place. This board's record for picking coaches is worse than Baylor's record the last 6 games of the season.
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10:20a, 12/5/25
True. This board was creaming over Willie Fritz after last season when the pipe dreams of getting a new coach were all the rage. But after seeing Houston almost collapse in their last game vs Baylor I'm not that enthralled.

Yet they still probably stay ahead of Baylor for a while.
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10:27a, 12/5/25
We needed the coach OSU hired, not the coach that OSU fired.
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1:54p, 12/5/25
Can't teach an old dog new tricks.

Gundy failed to evolve with the new CFB landscape. And he's incredibly stubborn to the point that he's content with losing to maintain his old ways.
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In reply to BearlyBeloved • 4:07p, 12/5/25
BearlyBeloved said:
Robert Wilson said:
Because he just crashed and burned in the modern era at a school with more support than Baylor?



Jordan in the news today, he just game sixed Nascar in court
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4:08p, 12/5/25
Need a coach that can navigate the NIL era sucessfully, Gundy is not that
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4:57p, 12/5/25
I'd be fine with Jeff Traylor of Gundy. Also would be willing to look into shutting down the program
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In reply to ron.reagan • 5:01p, 12/5/25
ron.reagan said:
I'd be fine with Jeff Traylor of Gundy. Also would be willing to look into shutting down the program

Either one of your choices would make your dream a nightmare. Program would shut down.

Anyone but the aggies please
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