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But this is not an experiment we should spend a lot of time on.

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Unfortunately the Wokie Okie will spend all the time it takes to try and polish this turd into something she can claim is a diamond while obfuscating real issues. The only real insight we will have into the quality of the Athletic Department will be the football team's record over time (financially, the only program that matters).

We are now set to be lapped by our conference mates.

Doug might very well turn out to be a sneaky great hire. He's a Baylor Bear, knows Waco and the surrounding communities, and has/had strong connections with administration within the school, alumni, donors, the BOR, and Foundation members. Then, Mack Rhoades ran him off (like Mack ran off many others in the athletic department).

Doug did special, little things for me and my family as we were on boarding to the Foundation and multi-sport season tickets many years ago. I could call, text, or email him directly, and he answered/handled every single call/text/email himself. No delegation, no distancing. For my mid-tier contributions and support, I felt directly connected to and appreciated by Baylor Athletics leaders. He got it then, and still gets it today I am sure.....

That, of course, all slowly deteriorated away over the years under Mack Rhoades. Mack ran off much of the talent in the athletic department, and turned the whole show into the Mack Rhoades circus rather than making it about students, alumni, boosters, and fans. After many years, I made the decision to walk away from all season tickets and financial support of Baylor Athletics about 4 years ago when it was clear (at least to me and most) Mack was running Baylor Athletics into the ditch of irrelevance.

I, for one, am looking forward to seeing what Doug does turning around Baylor Athletics. I believe this hire brings a fresh excitement from alumni, boosters, and fans having him in the seat. All of the other ex-boosters I personally know feel the same way.

The head football coach position will be his first major statement; I am looking forward to that first major move.

Sic'em

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Good God, we are not serious people. A guy who ran a fishing magazine, Livingstone has officially given up any pretense of caring.

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If NIL is not boosted for Aranda like McGuire has, and consequently has a bad year. I'm going to be right there with the Linda critics in that she and this AD and Aranda all have to go. If he can't boost our NIL by next season near the top of the conference with all these business skills, he will be proven ineffective and Linda would need to go as well.
This move is so unimpressive I thought it was a troll job for the first hour or so.
Again I would love to eat a buffet of crow about this but I'm really afraid I won't have to.

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I have to think he is in the Baylor bubble with Linda & BOR so I feel he's safe in most fronts.

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To bringing back Briles.

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Sometimes I wish this site was like the old BF site, or like surly, because your comment needs to get ***** slapped off the forum and you should get negged into oblivion.

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Why is it that the Briles haters are the biggest freaking DEI progressives ? This guy defends trans in women's sports, criticizes Riley Gaines and personally insults or probably projects anyone who disagrees with him w trash, low class terminology.

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It's 2025. Time to move on from a guy who was fired nearly a DECADE AGO. Why is it that easily-manipulated, chronically online Boomers can't manage to get unstuck from a feedback loop that compels them to regurgitate the same exact right-wing social media talking points? RILEY GAINES. CHARLIE KIRK. TDS. ICE. DEI. Critical Race Theory. NEWSCUM. Demonrats. Crazy Nancy. Thanks, Obama. Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

And, no, I don't have TDS. I just find it difficult to support an octogenarian who has already added $10 TRILLION to the national debt, and whom Jeffrey Epstein called, "my best friend for a decade." These are facts but you're the type who won't allow facts to get in the way of your feelings.

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Art guy… pastels. Figures.

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Good God, we are not serious people. A guy who ran a fishing magazine, Livingstone has officially given up any pretense of caring.

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If NIL is not boosted for Aranda like McGuire has, and consequently has a bad year. I'm going to be right there with the Linda critics in that she and this AD and Aranda all have to go. If he can't boost our NIL by next season near the top of the conference with all these business skills, he will be proven ineffective and Linda would need to go as well.
This move is so unimpressive I thought it was a troll job for the first hour or so.
Again I would love to eat a buffet of crow about this but I'm really afraid I won't have to.

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I've had some time to rethink this. While this guy has experience, it's from pre-NIL. The skills are there in terms of business administration and marketing which are actually part of the job. Honestly, I think this could either be a smashing success or an embarrassing calamity. No in between.

I wonder if anyone on the outside ISN'T laughing at Baylor after this hire.

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What we know of McNamee:

His grandpa was longtime chairman of the Education(?) dept at BU.

He and his wife were the house hunting couple on the premiere episode of Fixer Upper in 2013. They sold their house 2 years later and moved to Woodway.

IIRC he was in charge of the seat selection process when McLane opened. Did ok there; I liked my seats.

Left BU in June 2018 to go become president of Magnolia, so apparently he served under both Ian and Mack. No idea if leaving was due to an opportunity coming up with Chip and JoJo, or if he chafed under Mack's leadership.

Apparently left Magnolia with little fanfare in 2022. Resume gap after leaving Magnolia, but I apparently saw he did some work with Morgan Wallen and other country artists. So maybe expect more concerts at Foster.

Announced with great fanfare that he was buying controlling interest in Field and Stream magazine in 2024 and bringing back the print publication of it. If that had been a roaring success, I doubt he would be changing jobs again 18 months later.

The world of college athletics in 2018 is nothing like the world of college athletics in 2025.

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With this hire, Linda just obliterated the Peter Principle.

I think honestly we should know within a year if this was a good hire. The NIL should have big time program money flowing into from BMDs based in the claims about him now. This experiment should not last long if it isn't working out like that for the 26 team. I'm tired of giving them the benefit of the doubt. Let's just say I view it as a rebuttable presumption that the hire is unimpressive. Again if the money starts flowing in because of this announcement it is rebutted.

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Doug might very well turn out to be a sneaky great hire. He's a Baylor Bear, knows Waco and the surrounding communities, and has/had strong connections with administration within the school, alumni, donors, the BOR, and Foundation members. Then, Mack Rhoades ran him off (like Mack ran off many others in the athletic department).

Doug did special, little things for me and my family as we were on boarding to the Foundation and multi-sport season tickets many years ago. I could call, text, or email him directly, and he answered/handled every single call/text/email himself. No delegation, no distancing. For my mid-tier contributions and support, I felt directly connected to and appreciated by Baylor Athletics leaders. He got it then, and still gets it today I am sure.....

That, of course, all slowly deteriorated away over the years under Mack Rhoades. Mack ran off much of the talent in the athletic department, and turned the whole show into the Mack Rhoades circus rather than making it about students, alumni, boosters, and fans. After many years, I made the decision to walk away from all season tickets and financial support of Baylor Athletics about 4 years ago when it was clear (at least to me and most) Mack was running Baylor Athletics into the ditch of irrelevance.

I, for one, am looking forward to seeing what Doug does turning around Baylor Athletics. I believe this hire brings a fresh excitement from alumni, boosters, and fans having him in the seat. All of the other ex-boosters I personally know feel the same way.

The head football coach position will be his first major statement; I am looking forward to that first major move.

Sic'em

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He sounds like a great associate AD

the resume gap between magnolia and field & stream was from May to August, and the work he did with Morgan Wallen and Eric Church was WITH field & stream. Field & Stream faced financial challenges before McNamee came on board in 2022. Wallen & Church acquired F&S in 2024, and now they are launching their own network. https://variety.com/2025/tv/news/field-and-stream-tv-morgan-wallen-eric-church-streaming-1236575438/

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I think honestly we should know within a year if this was a good hire. The NIL should have big time program money flowing into from BMDs based in the claims about him now. This experiment should not last long if it isn't working out like that for the 26 team. I'm tired of giving them the benefit of the doubt. Let's just say I view it as a rebuttable presumption that the hire is unimpressive. Again if the money starts flowing in because of this announcement it is rebutted.

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NIL disclosures are like taxes. I don't think anyone we have is brash as Cody and willing to boast about how much money they spent on NIL.

I also didn't realize Cody is Chairman of the Tech Board.

I really would like to see how much money people spend on NIL, not just some half assed guess

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Doug might very well turn out to be a sneaky great hire. He's a Baylor Bear, knows Waco and the surrounding communities, and has/had strong connections with administration within the school, alumni, donors, the BOR, and Foundation members. Then, Mack Rhoades ran him off (like Mack ran off many others in the athletic department).

Doug did special, little things for me and my family as we were on boarding to the Foundation and multi-sport season tickets many years ago. I could call, text, or email him directly, and he answered/handled every single call/text/email himself. No delegation, no distancing. For my mid-tier contributions and support, I felt directly connected to and appreciated by Baylor Athletics leaders. He got it then, and still gets it today I am sure.....

That, of course, all slowly deteriorated away over the years under Mack Rhoades. Mack ran off much of the talent in the athletic department, and turned the whole show into the Mack Rhoades circus rather than making it about students, alumni, boosters, and fans. After many years, I made the decision to walk away from all season tickets and financial support of Baylor Athletics about 4 years ago when it was clear (at least to me and most) Mack was running Baylor Athletics into the ditch of irrelevance.

I, for one, am looking forward to seeing what Doug does turning around Baylor Athletics. I believe this hire brings a fresh excitement from alumni, boosters, and fans having him in the seat. All of the other ex-boosters I personally know feel the same way.

The head football coach position will be his first major statement; I am looking forward to that first major move.

Sic'em

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First, good for you for buying mutul-sport season tickets.

Second, now that you are back in the fold, can you write 7-digit checks?

I can write them, but mine would bounce.

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BAYLOR UNIVERSITY OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Waco, Texas December 6, 2025

TREMENDOUS NEWS, FOLKS THE BEST NEWS!
BAYLOR UNIVERSITY JUST HIRED THE GREATEST ATHLETIC DIRECTOR IN THE BIG 12 HAS EVER SEEN DOUG MCNAMEE!

Believe me, nobody knows more about winning than I do, and when I say Doug McNamee is a WINNER, I mean a TOTAL WINNER. He's smart, he's tough, he's loyal, and he's going to Make Baylor Athletics Great Again maybe even greater than it's ever been before, and it's already been pretty great, everybody says so.

Doug has done UNBELIEVABLE things everywhere he's been. Championships? He's got them. Sold-out stadiums? Packed every time. Fundraising? The money is pouring in like you wouldn't believe record-shattering, folks. The fake news media won't tell you this, but other schools were begging for him, crying for him, but Doug said, "No, I'm going to Baylor because Baylor is where the real action is!"
This is a YUGE upgrade for Baylor Nation. Sic 'Em Bears like you've never Sic 'Em'd before! We're talking national championships, playoff appearances, Heisman winners it's all coming, and it's coming FAST.

I want to thank the search committee they did a fantastic job, really fantastic but let's be honest, once they saw Doug's name, it was over. Case closed. The best man won, as usual.

Doug McNamee starts immediately, and I promise you, the losing, the mediocrity, the sleepy days those days are OVER. We are going to win so much, Baylor fans are going to get tired of winning!

God bless Doug, God bless Baylor, and God bless the greatest college athletics program in the United States of America!

Linda A. Livingstone, Ph.D.
President
Baylor University

(Contact: media@baylor.edu but only if you have something nice to say!)

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Let's all believe LL…Not

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hodedofome said:

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BAYLOR UNIVERSITY OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Waco, Texas December 6, 2025

TREMENDOUS NEWS, FOLKS THE BEST NEWS!
BAYLOR UNIVERSITY JUST HIRED THE GREATEST ATHLETIC DIRECTOR IN THE BIG 12 HAS EVER SEEN DOUG MCNAMEE!

Believe me, nobody knows more about winning than I do, and when I say Doug McNamee is a WINNER, I mean a TOTAL WINNER. He's smart, he's tough, he's loyal, and he's going to Make Baylor Athletics Great Again maybe even greater than it's ever been before, and it's already been pretty great, everybody says so.

Doug has done UNBELIEVABLE things everywhere he's been. Championships? He's got them. Sold-out stadiums? Packed every time. Fundraising? The money is pouring in like you wouldn't believe record-shattering, folks. The fake news media won't tell you this, but other schools were begging for him, crying for him, but Doug said, "No, I'm going to Baylor because Baylor is where the real action is!"
This is a YUGE upgrade for Baylor Nation. Sic 'Em Bears like you've never Sic 'Em'd before! We're talking national championships, playoff appearances, Heisman winners it's all coming, and it's coming FAST.

I want to thank the search committee they did a fantastic job, really fantastic but let's be honest, once they saw Doug's name, it was over. Case closed. The best man won, as usual.

Doug McNamee starts immediately, and I promise you, the losing, the mediocrity, the sleepy days those days are OVER. We are going to win so much, Baylor fans are going to get tired of winning!

God bless Doug, God bless Baylor, and God bless the greatest college athletics program in the United States of America!

Linda A. Livingstone, Ph.D.
President
Baylor University

(Contact: media@baylor.edu but only if you have something nice to say!)

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President Livingstone, President Trump; same thing.

Can't wait to start blowing up whatever TcU is running in those boats.

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Trump wins and doesn't take crap. Cignetti is Trump.
Loser Linda kept the Frowning Man.

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Good God, we are not serious people. A guy who ran a fishing magazine, Livingstone has officially given up any pretense of caring.

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If NIL is not boosted for Aranda like McGuire has, and consequently has a bad year. I'm going to be right there with the Linda critics in that she and this AD and Aranda all have to go. If he can't boost our NIL by next season near the top of the conference with all these business skills, he will be proven ineffective and Linda would need to go as well.
This move is so unimpressive I thought it was a troll job for the first hour or so.
Again I would love to eat a buffet of crow about this but I'm really afraid I won't have to.

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I've had some time to rethink this. While this guy has experience, it's from pre-NIL. The skills are there in terms of business administration and marketing which are actually part of the job. Honestly, I think this could either be a smashing success or an embarrassing calamity. No in between.

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Hopefully he is as smart as a lot of folks say, and will hire a GM for the football program.

He'll hire another under qualified like one of assistant AD's. That's what we do.

The coach hires the GM

hodedofome said:

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BAYLOR UNIVERSITY OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Waco, Texas December 6, 2025

TREMENDOUS NEWS, FOLKS THE BEST NEWS!
BAYLOR UNIVERSITY JUST HIRED THE GREATEST ATHLETIC DIRECTOR IN THE BIG 12 HAS EVER SEEN DOUG MCNAMEE!

Believe me, nobody knows more about winning than I do, and when I say Doug McNamee is a WINNER, I mean a TOTAL WINNER. He's smart, he's tough, he's loyal, and he's going to Make Baylor Athletics Great Again maybe even greater than it's ever been before, and it's already been pretty great, everybody says so.

Doug has done UNBELIEVABLE things everywhere he's been. Championships? He's got them. Sold-out stadiums? Packed every time. Fundraising? The money is pouring in like you wouldn't believe record-shattering, folks. The fake news media won't tell you this, but other schools were begging for him, crying for him, but Doug said, "No, I'm going to Baylor because Baylor is where the real action is!"
This is a YUGE upgrade for Baylor Nation. Sic 'Em Bears like you've never Sic 'Em'd before! We're talking national championships, playoff appearances, Heisman winners it's all coming, and it's coming FAST.

I want to thank the search committee they did a fantastic job, really fantastic but let's be honest, once they saw Doug's name, it was over. Case closed. The best man won, as usual.

Doug McNamee starts immediately, and I promise you, the losing, the mediocrity, the sleepy days those days are OVER. We are going to win so much, Baylor fans are going to get tired of winning!

God bless Doug, God bless Baylor, and God bless the greatest college athletics program in the United States of America!

Linda A. Livingstone, Ph.D.
President
Baylor University

(Contact: media@baylor.edu but only if you have something nice to say!)

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LL's trying too hard. In her opinion, the greatest AD in Big 12 history comes in barely 40 years old with no experience, having been out of football for years. Sheesh. She's nuts.

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He'll hire another under qualified like one of assistant AD's. That's what we do.

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First order of business is to dump both acting AD's. Wasted money. Baylors got a heavy administrative issue - while they cut teachers and benefits.

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He'll hire another under qualified like one of assistant AD's. That's what we do.

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First order of business is to dump both acting AD's. Wasted money. Baylors got a heavy administrative issue - while they cut teachers and benefits.

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each BOR member gets to name an associate AD. We will have what, 35?

Interesting anecdote. Strangely reassuring if he was run off by Mack.. that would be a good first sign.

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I read online he's for alcohol sales.

I like him already!

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Yes Sir !

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hodedofome said:

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BAYLOR UNIVERSITY OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Waco, Texas December 6, 2025

TREMENDOUS NEWS, FOLKS THE BEST NEWS!
BAYLOR UNIVERSITY JUST HIRED THE GREATEST ATHLETIC DIRECTOR IN THE BIG 12 HAS EVER SEEN DOUG MCNAMEE!

Believe me, nobody knows more about winning than I do, and when I say Doug McNamee is a WINNER, I mean a TOTAL WINNER. He's smart, he's tough, he's loyal, and he's going to Make Baylor Athletics Great Again maybe even greater than it's ever been before, and it's already been pretty great, everybody says so.

Doug has done UNBELIEVABLE things everywhere he's been. Championships? He's got them. Sold-out stadiums? Packed every time. Fundraising? The money is pouring in like you wouldn't believe record-shattering, folks. The fake news media won't tell you this, but other schools were begging for him, crying for him, but Doug said, "No, I'm going to Baylor because Baylor is where the real action is!"
This is a YUGE upgrade for Baylor Nation. Sic 'Em Bears like you've never Sic 'Em'd before! We're talking national championships, playoff appearances, Heisman winners it's all coming, and it's coming FAST.

I want to thank the search committee they did a fantastic job, really fantastic but let's be honest, once they saw Doug's name, it was over. Case closed. The best man won, as usual.

Doug McNamee starts immediately, and I promise you, the losing, the mediocrity, the sleepy days those days are OVER. We are going to win so much, Baylor fans are going to get tired of winning!

God bless Doug, God bless Baylor, and God bless the greatest college athletics program in the United States of America!

Linda A. Livingstone, Ph.D.
President
Baylor University

(Contact: media@baylor.edu but only if you have something nice to say!)

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President Livingstone, President Trump; same thing.

Can't wait to start blowing up whatever TcU is running in those boats.

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Trump wins and doesn't take crap. Cignetti is Trump.
Loser Linda kept the Frowning Man.

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Yes Sir. She's killed the program. I don't trust the BOR one inch though.

Hiring someone from the McCaw Briles era that certainly knows CAB? Mosley tweeting the BMDs are very happy? Maybe there is a secret plan to…bringing back CAB? Maybe the OP is on to something? CAB being hired by ENM to have his image rehab year with no media backlash that I have seen. Usually, this is followed by a couple more image rehab years at FAU or Liberty or as an assistant under Saban if he was still coaching before getting another P4 shot but we are just going to fast track his image rehab to one year. Could it happen?

(P.S. This is a satire post but would be glorious if it came to fruition. Would love to see Finebaum's head explode)

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I wonder if anyone on the outside ISN'T laughing at Baylor after this hire.

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Not enough people outside of Baylor fans really care much any more. We haven't been that interesting in quite a while.

Why do so many people think we don't have a football GM?

Aaron Hunt... Former Tech All American DL... Been here for several years.

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Why do so many people think we don't have a football GM?

Aaron Hunt... Former Tech All American DL... Been here for several years.

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It's not that there isn't one. It's that it is an evolving position of greater importance with greater responsibility and impact on the football team.

Ok .. but every post has been 'hire a GM'.. not 'get rid of him'.

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Hiring someone from the McCaw Briles era that certainly knows CAB? Mosley tweeting the BMDs are very happy? Maybe there is a secret plan to…bringing back CAB? Maybe the OP is on to something? CAB being hired by ENM to have his image rehab year with no media backlash that I have seen. Usually, this is followed by a couple more image rehab years at FAU or Liberty or as an assistant under Saban if he was still coaching before getting another P4 shot but we are just going to fast track his image rehab to one year. Could it happen?

(P.S. This is a satire post but would be glorious if it came to fruition. Would love to see Finebaum's head explode)

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It's as satirical as the Babylon Bee. You know, it's supposed to be a joke but it's really not.

I for one would welcome the return of Napoleon. And I have enough posts supporting him that I won't be the one under the guillotine.

scattershooting while wondering if the Compleat AD knows how to tie an Orvis knot ..........

- uncle fred

..... triple blindfolded.

[image of orvis knot ]

PA.

D!

Go Bears!!

Release the Trout!!!

So we now have howdy doody as our AD instead of a clown?

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So we now have howdy doody as our AD versus a clown?

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I see an Arbys logo on that forehead....

- uncle fred

Shrewd Move - free Arbys for the coaches across all sports.

Win:Win.

That's the new thinking we need.

D!

BellCountyBear said:

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So we now have howdy doody as our AD versus a clown?

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Strikes fear in the hearts of the Big 12.

Just back from watching today's introduction press conference. Watched the whole thing and even repeated some parts to make sure I had heard everything correctly.

What most caught my eye?

When I started watching, it had been viewed between 1900 and 2000 times. When it ended, the view count had risen to 2106 times.

When I started watching it, there were 28 likes. When I finished, there were 28 likes. Do the math.

To me, it was a series of good questions responded to with a litany of talking points, dodging, and trite expressions.

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Just back from watching today's introduction press conference. What most caught my eye?

When I started watching, it had been viewed about 1900 times. When it ended, the view count had risen to 2106 times.

When I started watching it, there were 28 likes. When I finished, there were 28 likes.

To me, it was a litany of good questions responded to with talking points, dodging, and trite expressions.

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Is it up on YouTube?