GruntTuff said:

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McNamee surely is smart enough to know that his job is 99% fundraising, marketing and schmoozing with donors. 1% has to do with sports directly.

A search firm and BMD's will hire the next football coach. His job will be to arrange a nice press conference to announce the hire, raise more money and shake hands with donors at all events.

He needs to spend about 25% of his time in the office and the rest on the road.

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this post deserves all the stars, Grunt. The average Baylor fan is screaming "FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT" when the reality is we have two main pathways right now and neither will give us clarity for at least a month:

• go all-in on supporting Dave - major growth of NIL budget (don't have to clear Tech, but must grow a lot)
• position ourselves to be looking for a coach next season (paltry NIL budget)

We'll know in about 6 weeks which route has been chosen (or if some other route is being attempted, but what that would look like I have no idea).

Do both and if you have to fire Dave fire him. Even the new ADs champions today are saying the BMDs are ready to give today. Nothing proves that like them giving today. But if you sabotage him with paltry NIL every worthy candidate will notice and not like that and not trust us and we will be drawing desperate candidates like in the late 90s.

Bearknuckle said:

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GruntTuff said:

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McNamee surely is smart enough to know that his job is 99% fundraising, marketing and schmoozing with donors. 1% has to do with sports directly.

A search firm and BMD's will hire the next football coach. His job will be to arrange a nice press conference to announce the hire, raise more money and shake hands with donors at all events.

He needs to spend about 25% of his time in the office and the rest on the road.

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this post deserves all the stars, Grunt. The average Baylor fan is screaming "FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT" when the reality is we have two main pathways right now and neither will give us clarity for at least a month:

• go all-in on supporting Dave - major growth of NIL budget (don't have to clear Tech, but must grow a lot)
• position ourselves to be looking for a coach next season (paltry NIL budget)

We'll know in about 6 weeks which route has been chosen (or if some other route is being attempted, but what that would look like I have no idea).

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Option 1 is not an actual option, and I think McNamee likely knows it. There is no appetite whatsoever among the fanbase to invest further into the Dave Aranda trainwreck at this point, and no amount of NIL will change that.

Even if, by some act of God, Aranda is successful enough to conceivably save his job in 2026, it won't be enough to garner any type of lasting support. The fans will (quite justifiably) turn on him again the second his performance dips, which is all but an inevitability given his history.

That's the problem with the situation our administration has created. By the start of next season Dave will be three years past his expiration date. No amount of seasoning or special cooking technique can make rancid meat palatable.

bear2be2 said:

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Bearknuckle said:

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GruntTuff said:

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McNamee surely is smart enough to know that his job is 99% fundraising, marketing and schmoozing with donors. 1% has to do with sports directly.

A search firm and BMD's will hire the next football coach. His job will be to arrange a nice press conference to announce the hire, raise more money and shake hands with donors at all events.

He needs to spend about 25% of his time in the office and the rest on the road.

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this post deserves all the stars, Grunt. The average Baylor fan is screaming "FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT" when the reality is we have two main pathways right now and neither will give us clarity for at least a month:

• go all-in on supporting Dave - major growth of NIL budget (don't have to clear Tech, but must grow a lot)
• position ourselves to be looking for a coach next season (paltry NIL budget)

We'll know in about 6 weeks which route has been chosen (or if some other route is being attempted, but what that would look like I have no idea).

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Option 1 is not an actual option, and I think McNamee likely knows it. There is no appetite whatsoever among the fanbase to invest further into the Dave Aranda trainwreck at this point, and no amount of NIL will change that.

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Option 1 depends entirely on our big money boosters, not rank and file season ticket holders and certainly not fans who make no contributions other than posts (not counting you in that category, just pointing out the obvious).

If the BMBs don't want to do it, it won't happen. If they do decide to go big on NIL as a demonstration of commitment to the program and Doug's long term vision (thus boosting the efficacy of an eventual coaching search), then I think Doug would set correspondingly high expectations for Dave - like say a minimum of 9 regular season wins or he's gone.

bear2be2 said:

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Bearknuckle said:

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GruntTuff said:

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McNamee surely is smart enough to know that his job is 99% fundraising, marketing and schmoozing with donors. 1% has to do with sports directly.

A search firm and BMD's will hire the next football coach. His job will be to arrange a nice press conference to announce the hire, raise more money and shake hands with donors at all events.

He needs to spend about 25% of his time in the office and the rest on the road.

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this post deserves all the stars, Grunt. The average Baylor fan is screaming "FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT" when the reality is we have two main pathways right now and neither will give us clarity for at least a month:

• go all-in on supporting Dave - major growth of NIL budget (don't have to clear Tech, but must grow a lot)
• position ourselves to be looking for a coach next season (paltry NIL budget)

We'll know in about 6 weeks which route has been chosen (or if some other route is being attempted, but what that would look like I have no idea).

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Option 1 is not an actual option, and I think McNamee likely knows it. There is no appetite whatsoever among the fanbase to invest further into the Dave Aranda trainwreck at this point, and no amount of NIL will change that.

Even if, by some act of God, Aranda is successful enough to conceivably save his job in 2026, it won't be enough to garner any type of lasting support. The fans will (quite justifiably) turn on him again the second his performance dips, which is all but an inevitability given his history.

That's the problem with the situation our administration has created. By the start of next season Dave will be three years past his expiration date. No amount of seasoning or special cooking technique can make rancid meat palatable.

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Bareknuckle has been posting the same nonsense about Aranda for years now.

Danielsjackson114 said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Bearknuckle said:

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GruntTuff said:

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McNamee surely is smart enough to know that his job is 99% fundraising, marketing and schmoozing with donors. 1% has to do with sports directly.

A search firm and BMD's will hire the next football coach. His job will be to arrange a nice press conference to announce the hire, raise more money and shake hands with donors at all events.

He needs to spend about 25% of his time in the office and the rest on the road.

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this post deserves all the stars, Grunt. The average Baylor fan is screaming "FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT" when the reality is we have two main pathways right now and neither will give us clarity for at least a month:

• go all-in on supporting Dave - major growth of NIL budget (don't have to clear Tech, but must grow a lot)
• position ourselves to be looking for a coach next season (paltry NIL budget)

We'll know in about 6 weeks which route has been chosen (or if some other route is being attempted, but what that would look like I have no idea).

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Option 1 is not an actual option, and I think McNamee likely knows it. There is no appetite whatsoever among the fanbase to invest further into the Dave Aranda trainwreck at this point, and no amount of NIL will change that.

Even if, by some act of God, Aranda is successful enough to conceivably save his job in 2026, it won't be enough to garner any type of lasting support. The fans will (quite justifiably) turn on him again the second his performance dips, which is all but an inevitability given his history.

That's the problem with the situation our administration has created. By the start of next season Dave will be three years past his expiration date. No amount of seasoning or special cooking technique can make rancid meat palatable.

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Bareknuckle has been posting the same nonsense about Aranda for years now.

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The best thing the BMDs could do for McNamee is to let Aranda founder. McNamee gets no blame for that and can then go out and hire a new HC with the blessing of the BMDs.

Robert Wilson said:

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Danielsjackson114 said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Bearknuckle said:

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GruntTuff said:

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McNamee surely is smart enough to know that his job is 99% fundraising, marketing and schmoozing with donors. 1% has to do with sports directly.

A search firm and BMD's will hire the next football coach. His job will be to arrange a nice press conference to announce the hire, raise more money and shake hands with donors at all events.

He needs to spend about 25% of his time in the office and the rest on the road.

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this post deserves all the stars, Grunt. The average Baylor fan is screaming "FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT" when the reality is we have two main pathways right now and neither will give us clarity for at least a month:

• go all-in on supporting Dave - major growth of NIL budget (don't have to clear Tech, but must grow a lot)
• position ourselves to be looking for a coach next season (paltry NIL budget)

We'll know in about 6 weeks which route has been chosen (or if some other route is being attempted, but what that would look like I have no idea).

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Option 1 is not an actual option, and I think McNamee likely knows it. There is no appetite whatsoever among the fanbase to invest further into the Dave Aranda trainwreck at this point, and no amount of NIL will change that.

Even if, by some act of God, Aranda is successful enough to conceivably save his job in 2026, it won't be enough to garner any type of lasting support. The fans will (quite justifiably) turn on him again the second his performance dips, which is all but an inevitability given his history.

That's the problem with the situation our administration has created. By the start of next season Dave will be three years past his expiration date. No amount of seasoning or special cooking technique can make rancid meat palatable.

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Bareknuckle has been posting the same nonsense about Aranda for years now.

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The best thing the BMDs could do for McNamee is to let Aranda founder. McNamee gets no blame for that and can then go out and hire a new HC with the blessing of the BMDs.

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I agree. The dude has to be nearing around 10 assistant coaches during his tenure

bear2be2 said:

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Bearknuckle said:

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GruntTuff said:

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McNamee surely is smart enough to know that his job is 99% fundraising, marketing and schmoozing with donors. 1% has to do with sports directly.

A search firm and BMD's will hire the next football coach. His job will be to arrange a nice press conference to announce the hire, raise more money and shake hands with donors at all events.

He needs to spend about 25% of his time in the office and the rest on the road.

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this post deserves all the stars, Grunt. The average Baylor fan is screaming "FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT" when the reality is we have two main pathways right now and neither will give us clarity for at least a month:

• go all-in on supporting Dave - major growth of NIL budget (don't have to clear Tech, but must grow a lot)
• position ourselves to be looking for a coach next season (paltry NIL budget)

We'll know in about 6 weeks which route has been chosen (or if some other route is being attempted, but what that would look like I have no idea).

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Option 1 is not an actual option, and I think McNamee likely knows it. There is no appetite whatsoever among the fanbase to invest further into the Dave Aranda trainwreck at this point, and no amount of NIL will change that.

Even if, by some act of God, Aranda is successful enough to conceivably save his job in 2026, it won't be enough to garner any type of lasting support. The fans will (quite justifiably) turn on him again the second his performance dips, which is all but an inevitability given his history.

That's the problem with the situation our administration has created. By the start of next season Dave will be three years past his expiration date. No amount of seasoning or special cooking technique can make rancid meat palatable.

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Didn't we already try option #1?

Next year is a rebuilding year but it doesn't matter. I think it will take a CFP appearance to save Dave's job for 2027.

bear2be2 said:

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Bearknuckle said:

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GruntTuff said:

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McNamee surely is smart enough to know that his job is 99% fundraising, marketing and schmoozing with donors. 1% has to do with sports directly.

A search firm and BMD's will hire the next football coach. His job will be to arrange a nice press conference to announce the hire, raise more money and shake hands with donors at all events.

He needs to spend about 25% of his time in the office and the rest on the road.

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this post deserves all the stars, Grunt. The average Baylor fan is screaming "FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT" when the reality is we have two main pathways right now and neither will give us clarity for at least a month:

• go all-in on supporting Dave - major growth of NIL budget (don't have to clear Tech, but must grow a lot)
• position ourselves to be looking for a coach next season (paltry NIL budget)

We'll know in about 6 weeks which route has been chosen (or if some other route is being attempted, but what that would look like I have no idea).

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There is no appetite whatsoever among the fanbase to invest further into the Dave Aranda train wreck.

Even if, by some act of God, Aranda is successful enough to conceivably save his job in 2026, it won't be enough to garner any type of lasting support. The fans will (quite justifiably) turn on him again the second his performance dips, which is all but an inevitability given his history.

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"Successful enough" would be conference title at this point and even then he should be gone. Which makes this situation completely irrational as you said.

This is pointless as it is crystal clear David doesn't have it. Going all in $ in a pointless exercise to try and drag this dude to 8 wins would be futile.

Danielsjackson114 said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Bearknuckle said:

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GruntTuff said:

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McNamee surely is smart enough to know that his job is 99% fundraising, marketing and schmoozing with donors. 1% has to do with sports directly.

A search firm and BMD's will hire the next football coach. His job will be to arrange a nice press conference to announce the hire, raise more money and shake hands with donors at all events.

He needs to spend about 25% of his time in the office and the rest on the road.

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this post deserves all the stars, Grunt. The average Baylor fan is screaming "FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT" when the reality is we have two main pathways right now and neither will give us clarity for at least a month:

• go all-in on supporting Dave - major growth of NIL budget (don't have to clear Tech, but must grow a lot)
• position ourselves to be looking for a coach next season (paltry NIL budget)

We'll know in about 6 weeks which route has been chosen (or if some other route is being attempted, but what that would look like I have no idea).

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Option 1 is not an actual option, and I think McNamee likely knows it. There is no appetite whatsoever among the fanbase to invest further into the Dave Aranda trainwreck at this point, and no amount of NIL will change that.

Even if, by some act of God, Aranda is successful enough to conceivably save his job in 2026, it won't be enough to garner any type of lasting support. The fans will (quite justifiably) turn on him again the second his performance dips, which is all but an inevitability given his history.

That's the problem with the situation our administration has created. By the start of next season Dave will be three years past his expiration date. No amount of seasoning or special cooking technique can make rancid meat palatable.

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Bareknuckle has been posting the same nonsense about Aranda for years now.

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I said we needed to fire him before the Mack meltdown. I also said it before the announced his retention in '23. So yeah I guess I have been saying the same thing for years.

EDIT(add): brand new account for today and this was your first post. Lmao which troll is this?

Bearknuckle said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Bearknuckle said:

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GruntTuff said:

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McNamee surely is smart enough to know that his job is 99% fundraising, marketing and schmoozing with donors. 1% has to do with sports directly.

A search firm and BMD's will hire the next football coach. His job will be to arrange a nice press conference to announce the hire, raise more money and shake hands with donors at all events.

He needs to spend about 25% of his time in the office and the rest on the road.

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this post deserves all the stars, Grunt. The average Baylor fan is screaming "FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT" when the reality is we have two main pathways right now and neither will give us clarity for at least a month:

• go all-in on supporting Dave - major growth of NIL budget (don't have to clear Tech, but must grow a lot)
• position ourselves to be looking for a coach next season (paltry NIL budget)

We'll know in about 6 weeks which route has been chosen (or if some other route is being attempted, but what that would look like I have no idea).

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Option 1 is not an actual option, and I think McNamee likely knows it. There is no appetite whatsoever among the fanbase to invest further into the Dave Aranda trainwreck at this point, and no amount of NIL will change that.

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Option 1 depends entirely on our big money boosters, not rank and file season ticket holders and certainly not fans who make no contributions other than posts (not counting you in that category, just pointing out the obvious).

If the BMBs don't want to do it, it won't happen. If they do decide to go big on NIL as a demonstration of commitment to the program and Doug's long term vision (thus boosting the efficacy of an eventual coaching search), then I think Doug would set correspondingly high expectations for Dave - like say a minimum of 9 regular season wins or he's gone.

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If you don't think a half-empty stadium for every game Dave Aranda coaches next season will be a consideration, I don't know what to tell you.

Aranda has lost the fanbase and he's not getting it back. Even if some big money donor wanted to bankroll his program the way Cody Campbell has at Tech, he won't get the fans back because the vast majority of us have already concluded that he's a ****ty head coach.

Keeping and investing in Dave Aranda is not a viable option or plan. And I would almost guarantee that Doug McNamee and Linda Livingstone would say as much if you could get them drunk enough to tell the truth on the matter.

BearFan33 said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Bearknuckle said:

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GruntTuff said:

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McNamee surely is smart enough to know that his job is 99% fundraising, marketing and schmoozing with donors. 1% has to do with sports directly.

A search firm and BMD's will hire the next football coach. His job will be to arrange a nice press conference to announce the hire, raise more money and shake hands with donors at all events.

He needs to spend about 25% of his time in the office and the rest on the road.

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this post deserves all the stars, Grunt. The average Baylor fan is screaming "FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT" when the reality is we have two main pathways right now and neither will give us clarity for at least a month:

• go all-in on supporting Dave - major growth of NIL budget (don't have to clear Tech, but must grow a lot)
• position ourselves to be looking for a coach next season (paltry NIL budget)

We'll know in about 6 weeks which route has been chosen (or if some other route is being attempted, but what that would look like I have no idea).

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Option 1 is not an actual option, and I think McNamee likely knows it. There is no appetite whatsoever among the fanbase to invest further into the Dave Aranda trainwreck at this point, and no amount of NIL will change that.

Even if, by some act of God, Aranda is successful enough to conceivably save his job in 2026, it won't be enough to garner any type of lasting support. The fans will (quite justifiably) turn on him again the second his performance dips, which is all but an inevitability given his history.

That's the problem with the situation our administration has created. By the start of next season Dave will be three years past his expiration date. No amount of seasoning or special cooking technique can make rancid meat palatable.

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Didn't we already try option #1?

Next year is a rebuilding year but it doesn't matter. I think it will take a CFP appearance to save Dave's job for 2027.

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Yes, we did. And it was a total failure.

bear2be2 said:

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BearFan33 said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Bearknuckle said:

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GruntTuff said:

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McNamee surely is smart enough to know that his job is 99% fundraising, marketing and schmoozing with donors. 1% has to do with sports directly.

A search firm and BMD's will hire the next football coach. His job will be to arrange a nice press conference to announce the hire, raise more money and shake hands with donors at all events.

He needs to spend about 25% of his time in the office and the rest on the road.

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this post deserves all the stars, Grunt. The average Baylor fan is screaming "FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT" when the reality is we have two main pathways right now and neither will give us clarity for at least a month:

• go all-in on supporting Dave - major growth of NIL budget (don't have to clear Tech, but must grow a lot)
• position ourselves to be looking for a coach next season (paltry NIL budget)

We'll know in about 6 weeks which route has been chosen (or if some other route is being attempted, but what that would look like I have no idea).

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Option 1 is not an actual option, and I think McNamee likely knows it. There is no appetite whatsoever among the fanbase to invest further into the Dave Aranda trainwreck at this point, and no amount of NIL will change that.

Even if, by some act of God, Aranda is successful enough to conceivably save his job in 2026, it won't be enough to garner any type of lasting support. The fans will (quite justifiably) turn on him again the second his performance dips, which is all but an inevitability given his history.

That's the problem with the situation our administration has created. By the start of next season Dave will be three years past his expiration date. No amount of seasoning or special cooking technique can make rancid meat palatable.

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Didn't we already try option #1?

Next year is a rebuilding year but it doesn't matter. I think it will take a CFP appearance to save Dave's job for 2027.

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Yes, we did. And it was a total failure.

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Bareknuckle wants to throw more money at the problem lol I would be terrified as a BMD to give Dave Aranda MORE money...

Danielsjackson114 said:

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bear2be2 said:

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BearFan33 said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Bearknuckle said:

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GruntTuff said:

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McNamee surely is smart enough to know that his job is 99% fundraising, marketing and schmoozing with donors. 1% has to do with sports directly.

A search firm and BMD's will hire the next football coach. His job will be to arrange a nice press conference to announce the hire, raise more money and shake hands with donors at all events.

He needs to spend about 25% of his time in the office and the rest on the road.

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this post deserves all the stars, Grunt. The average Baylor fan is screaming "FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT" when the reality is we have two main pathways right now and neither will give us clarity for at least a month:

• go all-in on supporting Dave - major growth of NIL budget (don't have to clear Tech, but must grow a lot)
• position ourselves to be looking for a coach next season (paltry NIL budget)

We'll know in about 6 weeks which route has been chosen (or if some other route is being attempted, but what that would look like I have no idea).

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Option 1 is not an actual option, and I think McNamee likely knows it. There is no appetite whatsoever among the fanbase to invest further into the Dave Aranda trainwreck at this point, and no amount of NIL will change that.

Even if, by some act of God, Aranda is successful enough to conceivably save his job in 2026, it won't be enough to garner any type of lasting support. The fans will (quite justifiably) turn on him again the second his performance dips, which is all but an inevitability given his history.

That's the problem with the situation our administration has created. By the start of next season Dave will be three years past his expiration date. No amount of seasoning or special cooking technique can make rancid meat palatable.

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Didn't we already try option #1?

Next year is a rebuilding year but it doesn't matter. I think it will take a CFP appearance to save Dave's job for 2027.

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Yes, we did. And it was a total failure.

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Bareknuckle wants to throw more money at the problem lol I would be terrified as a BMD to give Dave Aranda MORE money...

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No, I'm hoping our new AD can convince our biggest boosters to buy back-in now as a show of support for the program, not for Dave Aranda.

While I'm not completely averse to the idea of letting the chips fall where they may as is, that's going to be functionally tanking it...and I don't know that tanking it gets us a better result in an eventual coaching search. Maybe going that route and firing him before the halfway mark next season to get ahead of the hiring cycle is the best course of action, but that's not clear to me.

It's easy to say since it's not my money, but I think the best bet for the program is to give full support in 2026, but set the bar sky high for Dave: conference title and/or Playoff appearance OR bust. If we're floundering at 3-3 he'd still be gone by the halfway point, but only after we'd proven to the next guy that we gave Dave a fighting chance.

Bearknuckle said:

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Danielsjackson114 said:

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bear2be2 said:

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BearFan33 said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Bearknuckle said:

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GruntTuff said:

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McNamee surely is smart enough to know that his job is 99% fundraising, marketing and schmoozing with donors. 1% has to do with sports directly.

A search firm and BMD's will hire the next football coach. His job will be to arrange a nice press conference to announce the hire, raise more money and shake hands with donors at all events.

He needs to spend about 25% of his time in the office and the rest on the road.

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this post deserves all the stars, Grunt. The average Baylor fan is screaming "FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT" when the reality is we have two main pathways right now and neither will give us clarity for at least a month:

• go all-in on supporting Dave - major growth of NIL budget (don't have to clear Tech, but must grow a lot)
• position ourselves to be looking for a coach next season (paltry NIL budget)

We'll know in about 6 weeks which route has been chosen (or if some other route is being attempted, but what that would look like I have no idea).

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Option 1 is not an actual option, and I think McNamee likely knows it. There is no appetite whatsoever among the fanbase to invest further into the Dave Aranda trainwreck at this point, and no amount of NIL will change that.

Even if, by some act of God, Aranda is successful enough to conceivably save his job in 2026, it won't be enough to garner any type of lasting support. The fans will (quite justifiably) turn on him again the second his performance dips, which is all but an inevitability given his history.

That's the problem with the situation our administration has created. By the start of next season Dave will be three years past his expiration date. No amount of seasoning or special cooking technique can make rancid meat palatable.

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Didn't we already try option #1?

Next year is a rebuilding year but it doesn't matter. I think it will take a CFP appearance to save Dave's job for 2027.

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Yes, we did. And it was a total failure.

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Bareknuckle wants to throw more money at the problem lol I would be terrified as a BMD to give Dave Aranda MORE money...

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No, I'm hoping our new AD can convince our biggest boosters to buy back-in now as a show of support for the program, not for Dave Aranda.

While I'm not completely averse to the idea of letting the chips fall where they may as is, that's going to be functionally tanking it...and I don't know that tanking it gets us a better result in an eventual coaching search. Maybe going that route and firing him before the halfway mark next season to get ahead of the hiring cycle is the best course of action, but that's not clear to me.

It's easy to say since it's not my money, but I think the best bet for the program is to give full support in 2026, but set the bar sky high for Dave: conference title and/or Playoff appearance OR bust. If we're floundering at 3-3 he'd still be gone by the halfway point, but only after we'd proven to the next guy that we gave Dave a fighting chance.

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Our program and Dave Aranda are inextricably linked until that tie is severed. And given that one is an anchor to the other, it makes little sense fiscally to invest heavily until that anchor is removed.

With revenue sharing, the school is obligated to invest in the program at a certain level. Donors would be foolish to throw more good money after bad.

bear2be2 said:

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Bearknuckle said:

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Danielsjackson114 said:

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bear2be2 said:

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BearFan33 said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Bearknuckle said:

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GruntTuff said:

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McNamee surely is smart enough to know that his job is 99% fundraising, marketing and schmoozing with donors. 1% has to do with sports directly.

A search firm and BMD's will hire the next football coach. His job will be to arrange a nice press conference to announce the hire, raise more money and shake hands with donors at all events.

He needs to spend about 25% of his time in the office and the rest on the road.

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this post deserves all the stars, Grunt. The average Baylor fan is screaming "FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT" when the reality is we have two main pathways right now and neither will give us clarity for at least a month:

• go all-in on supporting Dave - major growth of NIL budget (don't have to clear Tech, but must grow a lot)
• position ourselves to be looking for a coach next season (paltry NIL budget)

We'll know in about 6 weeks which route has been chosen (or if some other route is being attempted, but what that would look like I have no idea).

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Option 1 is not an actual option, and I think McNamee likely knows it. There is no appetite whatsoever among the fanbase to invest further into the Dave Aranda trainwreck at this point, and no amount of NIL will change that.

Even if, by some act of God, Aranda is successful enough to conceivably save his job in 2026, it won't be enough to garner any type of lasting support. The fans will (quite justifiably) turn on him again the second his performance dips, which is all but an inevitability given his history.

That's the problem with the situation our administration has created. By the start of next season Dave will be three years past his expiration date. No amount of seasoning or special cooking technique can make rancid meat palatable.

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Didn't we already try option #1?

Next year is a rebuilding year but it doesn't matter. I think it will take a CFP appearance to save Dave's job for 2027.

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Yes, we did. And it was a total failure.

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Bareknuckle wants to throw more money at the problem lol I would be terrified as a BMD to give Dave Aranda MORE money...

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No, I'm hoping our new AD can convince our biggest boosters to buy back-in now as a show of support for the program, not for Dave Aranda.

While I'm not completely averse to the idea of letting the chips fall where they may as is, that's going to be functionally tanking it...and I don't know that tanking it gets us a better result in an eventual coaching search. Maybe going that route and firing him before the halfway mark next season to get ahead of the hiring cycle is the best course of action, but that's not clear to me.

It's easy to say since it's not my money, but I think the best bet for the program is to give full support in 2026, but set the bar sky high for Dave: conference title and/or Playoff appearance OR bust. If we're floundering at 3-3 he'd still be gone by the halfway point, but only after we'd proven to the next guy that we gave Dave a fighting chance.

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Our program and Dave Aranda are inextricably linked until that tie is severed. And given that one is an anchor to the other, it makes little sense fiscally to invest heavily until that anchor is removed.

With revenue sharing, the school is obligated to invest in the program at a certain level. Donors would be foolish to throw more good money after bad.

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Option 2 makes a ton of sense on a lot of levels, so I won't be surprised if that's how things go...I just wonder if 'tanking' like that will turn off a coach we could have otherwise had. But again, easy for me to suggest Option 1 when it won't be my piles of cash involved!

MIABear said:

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I knew Doug in college at Baylor. No way is this a Tom Stanton redux hire. Doug is a very, very savvy guy, especially when it comes to athletics. He's been involved with BU athletics since college. He knows our fan base very well, he knows the alumni association and donors, and he's a very tough, no nonsense kind of guy. He also has a lot of great executive experience with Magnolia. While it's an unorthodox hire, I think he'll be solid.

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It's good to find out that he's a no-nonsense fellow. I was afraid he would check my posts, looking for sage advice.

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MIABear said:

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I knew Doug in college at Baylor. No way is this a Tom Stanton redux hire. Doug is a very, very savvy guy, especially when it comes to athletics. He's been involved with BU athletics since college. He knows our fan base very well, he knows the alumni association and donors, and he's a very tough, no nonsense kind of guy. He also has a lot of great executive experience with Magnolia. While it's an unorthodox hire, I think he'll be solid.

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It's good to find out that he's a no-nonsense fellow. I was afraid he would check my posts, looking for sage advice.

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If he is smart, this is the last place he would come for sage advice, from you, me or anyone else. Too much emotion here for anything to be sage. If he finds something that works for the next several years, I am all for it, with or without Aranda. And a previous poster is correct, the BMD, not us rank and file fans will decide when and if Aranda leaves.

what's the tally?

we need a haggard DM to come out Sunday night, announce the total, loosen the bow tie and sing....

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- el uncle fred

D!

william said:

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what's the tally?

we need a haggard DM to come out Sunday night, announce the total, loosen the bow tie and sing....

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- el uncle fred

D!

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Luck be a Lady
TOOOOONIIIIIIGHT!

Bearknuckle said:

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william said:

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what's the tally?

we need a haggard DM to come out Sunday night, announce the total, loosen the bow tie and sing....

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- el uncle fred

D!

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Luck be a Lady
TOOOOONIIIIIIGHT!

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walk on, walk on ...........

Have y'all noticed how hyperactive the Baylor Athletics Facebook page has been? Holy Crap! I dont have a clue about whether McNamee can actually do what we need, but I'm already sick of hearing about him.

Karab said:

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MIABear said:

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I knew Doug in college at Baylor. No way is this a Tom Stanton redux hire. Doug is a very, very savvy guy, especially when it comes to athletics. He's been involved with BU athletics since college. He knows our fan base very well, he knows the alumni association and donors, and he's a very tough, no nonsense kind of guy. He also has a lot of great executive experience with Magnolia. While it's an unorthodox hire, I think he'll be solid.

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Only 41 posts since 2019. Impressive, guy who knew Doug in college.

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Sheesh. How many times do we have to deal with the "only XX posts since XX"?

If BYUtv can get airtime and BYU football can attract an international following, then McNamee should be able to create a BUtv channel for Baptists around the world. There are significantly many more Baptists than Mormons, yet the Mormons are growing faster…

I think McNamee should be regarded as a media/sports/entertainment leader for Baylor. If he needs 'traditional AD' help, he can always hire one for his staff. A lot of them will be looking for jobs soon.

monsterbear61 said:

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If BYUtv can get airtime and BYU football can attract an international following, then McNamee should be able to create a BUtv channel for Baptists around the world. There are significantly many more Baptists than Mormons, yet the Mormons are growing faster…

I think McNamee should be regarded as a media/sports/entertainment leader for Baylor. If he needs 'traditional AD' help, he can always hire one for his staff. A lot of them will be looking for jobs soon.

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I grew up going to Baptist church and most of the people at the church couldnt care less about Baylor. They were aggies, horns etc.

muddybrazos said:

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monsterbear61 said:

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If BYUtv can get airtime and BYU football can attract an international following, then McNamee should be able to create a BUtv channel for Baptists around the world. There are significantly many more Baptists than Mormons, yet the Mormons are growing faster…

I think McNamee should be regarded as a media/sports/entertainment leader for Baylor. If he needs 'traditional AD' help, he can always hire one for his staff. A lot of them will be looking for jobs soon.

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I grew up going to Baptist church and most of the people at the church couldnt care less about Baylor. They were aggies, horns etc.

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Cultural Solidarity Levels
Mormons: Ming Dynasty
Baptists: The Hundred Years' War