Rhule Perspective from a Temple Fan

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Southtxbear
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Let me just post the excuses:

Bad players
Young players
Lost a recruiting class
No one expected Rhule to win
Rhule is doing as well as Briles his 1st year
This is a process
Rhule only won 2 games his 1st year at Temple
Players still learning system.

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Mothra
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Appreciate you sharing your thoughts. So you think the losing is probably just lack of experience and talent, and has nothing to do with coaching?

If so I really hope you're right. I thought Rhule was a good hire and like what he did at Temple but it's been a long time since we looked so terrible. It reminds me of Steele.

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Mothra said:

Appreciate you sharing your thoughts. So you think the losing is probably just lack of experience and talent, and has nothing to do with coaching?

If so I really hope you're right. I thought Rhule was a good hire and like what he did at Temple but it's been a long time since we looked so terrible. It reminds me of Steele.




I think that's a little pedantic. Those teams that Steele had gave up. Pure and simple. This team fights.

But I think the coaches are coaching to train the guys for next year, tbh. They're trying to break the old/bad habits or practices that differ with what they want and get the players to run what they want next year and beyond.

When I see something that I don't understand, I try to take a step back and make sure I'm seeing the whole context. I'm no expert, but when you combine a very young and inexperienced team (fact) with a new philosophy (fact) that differs very much from what was known previously (fact) being put in by a coaching staff that is hard working (fact) and that has had success (fact) I think it makes more sense that we haven't won. I think it makes less sense to see that information and jump to "these coaches suck" than it does to think "there's more going on here than we thought."

That's how I see it, anyway.

On top of it all, it's a football game. I mean, I don't know how people can get so angry about something that's meant to bring you joy. If it's not fun, change the channel. Me? I'm going to support the team no matter what. I've been a die-hard Cubs fan my entire life. I cried ugly tears last fall because I'd put in my time. The hard times made the good ones so much better.
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BrooksBearLives said:

Mothra said:

Appreciate you sharing your thoughts. So you think the losing is probably just lack of experience and talent, and has nothing to do with coaching?

If so I really hope you're right. I thought Rhule was a good hire and like what he did at Temple but it's been a long time since we looked so terrible. It reminds me of Steele.




I think that's a little pedantic. Those teams that Steele had gave up. Pure and simple. This team fights.
You don't think the team gave up today? If they really, didn't we're ****ed.
Mothra
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Fair points. It is hard for me to fathom a coach that had his kind of success at Temple being a dud. But as I'm sure you know, there are countless examples of successful coaches in lesser conferences not being able to compete at the next level. I assume you can fathom the possibility that such is the case here.

But what is more of a concern for me is whether the kind of schemes he wants to run will be successful in this conference. We ran more I formation today than I've seen all year and I just don't see it being successful moving forward. Hell even Gary Patterson and Bill Snyder no longer run it. It concerns me that Rhule thinks that will work. This isn't the AAC. We are competing against potent fast offenses every week. I just don't see this offense working.

I also can't say I agree with you that this team didn't look like it quit today. It certainly looked that way to me. This looked as much like a Steele whipping as any I've seen all year.

I really do hope you're right, but just don't see any signs that you are at this point.
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Mothra said:

Fair points. It is hard for me to fathom a coach that had his kind of success at Temple being a dud. But as I'm sure you know, there are countless examples of successful coaches in lesser conferences not being able to compete at the next level. I assume you can fathom the possibility that such is the case here.

But what is more of a concern for me is whether the kind of schemes he wants to run will be successful in this conference. We ran more I formation today than I've seen all year and I just don't see it being successful moving forward. Hell even Gary Patterson and Bill Snyder no longer run it. It concerns me that Rhule thinks that will work. This isn't the AAC. We are competing against potent fast offenses every week. I just don't see this offense working.

I also can't say I agree with you that this team didn't look like it quit today. It certainly looked that way to me. This looked as much like a Steele whipping as any I've seen all year.

I really do hope you're right, but just don't see any signs that you are at this point.


Man. I don't know how I can be right or wrong here.

My approach to Baylor Football hasn't changed. I love the team no matter what. They're all fellow bears. They're fighting for the Green and Gold, they deserve my support, pure and simple.

My complaining either way isn't going to change a thing. Hand-wringing and getting into arguments about something I'm not an expert on (football) just doesn't sound like a productive use of my time. I don't know a mike from a will. I've learned a bit, but not nearly what others already know.

We have coach Rhule for the next 3-7 years, at least. He said it was going to be hard, we really should have listened. But he's here. For a while.

So I'm suspending judgement. I'm supporting the team and him. But I'm not going to say he's going to be great or a disaster, yet. Why? Why paint myself into a corner like that?

But in the meantime, I'm going to stay positive. It's better than being ****ty all the time. All that does is make everyone's nights and days suck.
Mothra
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Gotcha.

I think the complaining on the board is just a release of sorts and don't put much stock into the rants. It's of course understandable why everyone is unhappy. I just haven't gotten to the point where I no longer care whether we are good and am just content spending my time and money watching and attending games when the product on the field is terrible. Maybe that makes me a fair weather fan but I feel like I'm too busy to sit through unenjoyable drubbings. I did that from 99 to 03 and have other things to do. I guess Briles spoiled me.
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BrooksBearLives said:

Mothra said:

You've been optimistic about Rhule. Curious on your thoughts after today's game and whether you see us winning a game going forward.


Man, I don't know. Today we played a really good team. One highly motivated and wasn't going to overlook us as it was their homecoming. We never play well in Stillwater.

I just keep coming back to the fact that 29 out of the 44 on our 2-deep are freshmen/sophomores. We are thin all over. The talent is largely inexperienced. And the veterans we DO have are either playing through injuries or coming back from them.

But 29 of the 44 haven't had more than 18 months on a big-time training program.

At this point, I want as many guys as is smart to get experience and learn the right way. I've written this season off. If we beat Kansas or catch ISU napping, that'd go a long way.
What was the score of the game 2 years ago?
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ColomboLQ said:

BrooksBearLives said:

Mothra said:

You've been optimistic about Rhule. Curious on your thoughts after today's game and whether you see us winning a game going forward.


Man, I don't know. Today we played a really good team. One highly motivated and wasn't going to overlook us as it was their homecoming. We never play well in Stillwater.

I just keep coming back to the fact that 29 out of the 44 on our 2-deep are freshmen/sophomores. We are thin all over. The talent is largely inexperienced. And the veterans we DO have are either playing through injuries or coming back from them.

But 29 of the 44 haven't had more than 18 months on a big-time training program.

At this point, I want as many guys as is smart to get experience and learn the right way. I've written this season off. If we beat Kansas or catch ISU napping, that'd go a long way.
What was the score of the game 2 years ago?
Keep clutching those pearls of the past as if they were relevant. 2 years in college football might as well be a decade in real time.
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Mothra said:

Gotcha.

I think the complaining on the board is just a release of sorts and don't put much stock into the rants. It's of course understandable why everyone is unhappy. I just haven't gotten to the point where I no longer care whether we are good and am just content spending my time and money watching and attending games when the product on the field is terrible. Maybe that makes me a fair weather fan but I feel like I'm too busy to sit through unenjoyable drubbings. I did that from 99 to 03 and have other things to do. I guess Briles spoiled me.

I think Briles spoiled all of us. We are used to scoring quick & often and that does not happen much anymore. We have had a few quick strikes, thankfully, but not enough and we have not had enough scoring at all. On top of that, the defense has made some good stops, but not enough (obviously). At least special teams seems to have improved and I think we generally have fewer penalties as before. I'm trying to find the silver lining!

I have no problems with "trust the process" but I do have a problem with overemphasizing the run to the point of it being predictable. I remember some frustrating times under Briles in which we just ran it up the middle over and over again, often with the same player (Rice last year comes to mind). At some point it becomes predictable and the other team shuts it down effectively. Also, Briles would do that when we had a comfortable lead and he wanted to run out the clock. In 2017, we're doing this when behind by 2-3 scores as if winning the game is not the objective. That is most frustrating.

We need more quick strikes to make the game more competitive. After all, the offense needs practice with pass plays as well.


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You've been optimistic about Rhule. Curious on your thoughts after today's game and whether you see us winning a game going forward.


Man, I don't know. Today we played a really good team. One highly motivated and wasn't going to overlook us as it was their homecoming. We never play well in Stillwater.

I just keep coming back to the fact that 29 out of the 44 on our 2-deep are freshmen/sophomores. We are thin all over. The talent is largely inexperienced. And the veterans we DO have are either playing through injuries or coming back from them.

But 29 of the 44 haven't had more than 18 months on a big-time training program.

At this point, I want as many guys as is smart to get experience and learn the right way. I've written this season off. If we beat Kansas or catch ISU napping, that'd go a long way.
What was the score of the game 2 years ago?

Good point. Two years ago we dominated them in their own stadium. They were playing catch up throughout the game, even resorting to an onside kick, giving us a great field position and setting us up for another TD. We won by 11 IIRC, we did the same thing at home the last two times. Clearly, Briles was not trying to run up the score because we easily could have done to them 3 years in a row what they did to us yesterday.
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Mothra said:

Gotcha.

I think the complaining on the board is just a release of sorts and don't put much stock into the rants. It's of course understandable why everyone is unhappy. I just haven't gotten to the point where I no longer care whether we are good and am just content spending my time and money watching and attending games when the product on the field is terrible. Maybe that makes me a fair weather fan but I feel like I'm too busy to sit through unenjoyable drubbings. I did that from 99 to 03 and have other things to do. I guess Briles spoiled me.


There is a very large contingent of Baylor fans who are either more or less ok with losing in football and/or think we deserve to lose because we have sinned.
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Robert Wilson said:

Mothra said:

Gotcha.

I think the complaining on the board is just a release of sorts and don't put much stock into the rants. It's of course understandable why everyone is unhappy. I just haven't gotten to the point where I no longer care whether we are good and am just content spending my time and money watching and attending games when the product on the field is terrible. Maybe that makes me a fair weather fan but I feel like I'm too busy to sit through unenjoyable drubbings. I did that from 99 to 03 and have other things to do. I guess Briles spoiled me.


There is a very large contingent of Baylor fans who are either more or less ok with losing in football and/or think we deserve to lose because we have sinned.
Or it could be that there is a very large contingent of Baylor fans who think that fans who don't moan and mope all over the place are content. Just because we chose not to be negative about everything doesnt mean we accept this.
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Assassin said:

Robert Wilson said:

Mothra said:

Gotcha.

I think the complaining on the board is just a release of sorts and don't put much stock into the rants. It's of course understandable why everyone is unhappy. I just haven't gotten to the point where I no longer care whether we are good and am just content spending my time and money watching and attending games when the product on the field is terrible. Maybe that makes me a fair weather fan but I feel like I'm too busy to sit through unenjoyable drubbings. I did that from 99 to 03 and have other things to do. I guess Briles spoiled me.


There is a very large contingent of Baylor fans who are either more or less ok with losing in football and/or think we deserve to lose because we have sinned.
Or it could be that there is a very large contingent of Baylor fans who think that fans who don't moan and mope all over the place are content. Just because we chose not to be negative about everything doesnt mean we accept this.


Both of those things could be true. Do you really disagree with what I said?
Assassin
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Robert Wilson said:

Assassin said:

Robert Wilson said:

Mothra said:

Gotcha.

I think the complaining on the board is just a release of sorts and don't put much stock into the rants. It's of course understandable why everyone is unhappy. I just haven't gotten to the point where I no longer care whether we are good and am just content spending my time and money watching and attending games when the product on the field is terrible. Maybe that makes me a fair weather fan but I feel like I'm too busy to sit through unenjoyable drubbings. I did that from 99 to 03 and have other things to do. I guess Briles spoiled me.


There is a very large contingent of Baylor fans who are either more or less ok with losing in football and/or think we deserve to lose because we have sinned.
Or it could be that there is a very large contingent of Baylor fans who think that fans who don't moan and mope all over the place are content. Just because we chose not to be negative about everything doesnt mean we accept this.


Both of those things could be true. Do you really disagree with what I said?
Yep. Dont know a single fan who thinks we deserve to lose because we sinned. And I know tons of them
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Robert Wilson
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Assassin said:

Robert Wilson said:

Assassin said:

Robert Wilson said:

Mothra said:

Gotcha.

I think the complaining on the board is just a release of sorts and don't put much stock into the rants. It's of course understandable why everyone is unhappy. I just haven't gotten to the point where I no longer care whether we are good and am just content spending my time and money watching and attending games when the product on the field is terrible. Maybe that makes me a fair weather fan but I feel like I'm too busy to sit through unenjoyable drubbings. I did that from 99 to 03 and have other things to do. I guess Briles spoiled me.


There is a very large contingent of Baylor fans who are either more or less ok with losing in football and/or think we deserve to lose because we have sinned.
Or it could be that there is a very large contingent of Baylor fans who think that fans who don't moan and mope all over the place are content. Just because we chose not to be negative about everything doesnt mean we accept this.


Both of those things could be true. Do you really disagree with what I said?
Yep. Dont know a single fan who thinks we deserve to lose because we sinned. And I know tons of them


I've heard it said. And if you don't think there's any of that then you are naive about the new Baylor.
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Robert Wilson said:

Assassin said:

Robert Wilson said:

Assassin said:

Robert Wilson said:

Mothra said:

Gotcha.

I think the complaining on the board is just a release of sorts and don't put much stock into the rants. It's of course understandable why everyone is unhappy. I just haven't gotten to the point where I no longer care whether we are good and am just content spending my time and money watching and attending games when the product on the field is terrible. Maybe that makes me a fair weather fan but I feel like I'm too busy to sit through unenjoyable drubbings. I did that from 99 to 03 and have other things to do. I guess Briles spoiled me.


There is a very large contingent of Baylor fans who are either more or less ok with losing in football and/or think we deserve to lose because we have sinned.
Or it could be that there is a very large contingent of Baylor fans who think that fans who don't moan and mope all over the place are content. Just because we chose not to be negative about everything doesnt mean we accept this.


Both of those things could be true. Do you really disagree with what I said?
Yep. Dont know a single fan who thinks we deserve to lose because we sinned. And I know tons of them


I've heard it said. And if you don't think there's any of that then you are naive about the new Baylor.

Oh please, give me a break. I've never heard a single solitary soul say that. How many people exactly have you heard say that?
PartyBear
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Truett was posting that in the summer of 16. I have not heard an actual person say that but I don't hve anyone in my circles who would be the type. But I have seen Truett post that. He even said we need to disband the football program for 5 years for Jesus. All of which was odd because Truett I didn't think was that type of theologian based on his R&P board posts.
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Truett? Really? That''s your source?

PartyBear
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Someone just said they had never heard anyone say that kind of thing. I was just saying Truett had posted that kind of stuff at one time.
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The poster George Truett openly cheered for Baylor football to receive the death penalty.
Assassin
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Robert Wilson said:

Assassin said:

Robert Wilson said:

Assassin said:

Robert Wilson said:

Mothra said:

Gotcha.

I think the complaining on the board is just a release of sorts and don't put much stock into the rants. It's of course understandable why everyone is unhappy. I just haven't gotten to the point where I no longer care whether we are good and am just content spending my time and money watching and attending games when the product on the field is terrible. Maybe that makes me a fair weather fan but I feel like I'm too busy to sit through unenjoyable drubbings. I did that from 99 to 03 and have other things to do. I guess Briles spoiled me.


There is a very large contingent of Baylor fans who are either more or less ok with losing in football and/or think we deserve to lose because we have sinned.
Or it could be that there is a very large contingent of Baylor fans who think that fans who don't moan and mope all over the place are content. Just because we chose not to be negative about everything doesnt mean we accept this.


Both of those things could be true. Do you really disagree with what I said?
Yep. Dont know a single fan who thinks we deserve to lose because we sinned. And I know tons of them


I've heard it said. And if you don't think there's any of that then you are naive about the new Baylor.
I'm calling bullcrap on that. The only folks that say that are the Paul Finebaums of the world, not Baylor fans
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Assassin said:

Robert Wilson said:

Assassin said:

Robert Wilson said:

Assassin said:

Robert Wilson said:

Mothra said:

Gotcha.

I think the complaining on the board is just a release of sorts and don't put much stock into the rants. It's of course understandable why everyone is unhappy. I just haven't gotten to the point where I no longer care whether we are good and am just content spending my time and money watching and attending games when the product on the field is terrible. Maybe that makes me a fair weather fan but I feel like I'm too busy to sit through unenjoyable drubbings. I did that from 99 to 03 and have other things to do. I guess Briles spoiled me.


There is a very large contingent of Baylor fans who are either more or less ok with losing in football and/or think we deserve to lose because we have sinned.
Or it could be that there is a very large contingent of Baylor fans who think that fans who don't moan and mope all over the place are content. Just because we chose not to be negative about everything doesnt mean we accept this.


Both of those things could be true. Do you really disagree with what I said?
Yep. Dont know a single fan who thinks we deserve to lose because we sinned. And I know tons of them


I've heard it said. And if you don't think there's any of that then you are naive about the new Baylor.
I'm calling bullcrap on that. The only folks that say that are the Paul Finebaums of the world, not Baylor fans


Admittedly it was just one, and I doubt she was a football fan. But I suspect that sentiment is more broadly held, in one form or another, even among some of our football fans. They won't say it clearly, but they're more less OK with losing for now and think we deserve it.
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Gunny Hartman said:

Robert Wilson said:

Assassin said:

Robert Wilson said:

Assassin said:

Robert Wilson said:

Mothra said:

Gotcha.

I think the complaining on the board is just a release of sorts and don't put much stock into the rants. It's of course understandable why everyone is unhappy. I just haven't gotten to the point where I no longer care whether we are good and am just content spending my time and money watching and attending games when the product on the field is terrible. Maybe that makes me a fair weather fan but I feel like I'm too busy to sit through unenjoyable drubbings. I did that from 99 to 03 and have other things to do. I guess Briles spoiled me.


There is a very large contingent of Baylor fans who are either more or less ok with losing in football and/or think we deserve to lose because we have sinned.
Or it could be that there is a very large contingent of Baylor fans who think that fans who don't moan and mope all over the place are content. Just because we chose not to be negative about everything doesnt mean we accept this.


Both of those things could be true. Do you really disagree with what I said?
Yep. Dont know a single fan who thinks we deserve to lose because we sinned. And I know tons of them


I've heard it said. And if you don't think there's any of that then you are naive about the new Baylor.

Oh please, give me a break. I've never heard a single solitary soul say that. How many people exactly have you heard say that?
He's a cab apologist, makes things up on the fly.
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Robert Wilson said:

Assassin said:

Robert Wilson said:

Assassin said:

Robert Wilson said:

Assassin said:

Robert Wilson said:

Mothra said:

Gotcha.

I think the complaining on the board is just a release of sorts and don't put much stock into the rants. It's of course understandable why everyone is unhappy. I just haven't gotten to the point where I no longer care whether we are good and am just content spending my time and money watching and attending games when the product on the field is terrible. Maybe that makes me a fair weather fan but I feel like I'm too busy to sit through unenjoyable drubbings. I did that from 99 to 03 and have other things to do. I guess Briles spoiled me.


There is a very large contingent of Baylor fans who are either more or less ok with losing in football and/or think we deserve to lose because we have sinned.
Or it could be that there is a very large contingent of Baylor fans who think that fans who don't moan and mope all over the place are content. Just because we chose not to be negative about everything doesnt mean we accept this.


Both of those things could be true. Do you really disagree with what I said?
Yep. Dont know a single fan who thinks we deserve to lose because we sinned. And I know tons of them


I've heard it said. And if you don't think there's any of that then you are naive about the new Baylor.
I'm calling bullcrap on that. The only folks that say that are the Paul Finebaums of the world, not Baylor fans


Admittedly it was just one, and I doubt she was a football fan. But I suspect that sentiment is more broadly held, in one form or another, even among some of our football fans. They won't say it clearly, but they're more less OK with losing for now and think we deserve it.

So ONE person says that to you and you extrapolate that into a "very large contingent of Baylor fans"??
Assassin
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Gunny Hartman said:

Robert Wilson said:

Assassin said:



I'm calling bullcrap on that. The only folks that say that are the Paul Finebaums of the world, not Baylor fans


Admittedly it was just one, and I doubt she was a football fan. But I suspect that sentiment is more broadly held, in one form or another, even among some of our football fans. They won't say it clearly, but they're more less OK with losing for now and think we deserve it.

So ONE person says that to you and you extrapolate that into a "very large contingent of Baylor fans"??
She was a very large person?
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Ghostrider said:

Let me just post the excuses:

Bad players
Young players
Lost a recruiting class
No one expected Rhule to win
Rhule is doing as well as Briles his 1st year
This is a process
Rhule only won 2 games his 1st year at Temple
Players still learning system.

There, I saved you 13$ per month from having to read the premium board.
#FreeCinque
Robert Wilson
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Gunny Hartman said:

Robert Wilson said:

Assassin said:

Robert Wilson said:

Assassin said:

Robert Wilson said:

Assassin said:

Robert Wilson said:

Mothra said:

Gotcha.

I think the complaining on the board is just a release of sorts and don't put much stock into the rants. It's of course understandable why everyone is unhappy. I just haven't gotten to the point where I no longer care whether we are good and am just content spending my time and money watching and attending games when the product on the field is terrible. Maybe that makes me a fair weather fan but I feel like I'm too busy to sit through unenjoyable drubbings. I did that from 99 to 03 and have other things to do. I guess Briles spoiled me.


There is a very large contingent of Baylor fans who are either more or less ok with losing in football and/or think we deserve to lose because we have sinned.
Or it could be that there is a very large contingent of Baylor fans who think that fans who don't moan and mope all over the place are content. Just because we chose not to be negative about everything doesnt mean we accept this.


Both of those things could be true. Do you really disagree with what I said?
Yep. Dont know a single fan who thinks we deserve to lose because we sinned. And I know tons of them


I've heard it said. And if you don't think there's any of that then you are naive about the new Baylor.
I'm calling bullcrap on that. The only folks that say that are the Paul Finebaums of the world, not Baylor fans


Admittedly it was just one, and I doubt she was a football fan. But I suspect that sentiment is more broadly held, in one form or another, even among some of our football fans. They won't say it clearly, but they're more less OK with losing for now and think we deserve it.

So ONE person says that to you and you extrapolate that into a "very large contingent of Baylor fans"??


That plus plenty of self-loathing indicating the same thing. Few people would actually come out and say that. But a lot of them can be infected with a little bit of it.
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Ghostrider said:

Let me just post the excuses:

Bad players
Young players
Lost a recruiting class
No one expected Rhule to win
Rhule is doing as well as Briles his 1st year
This is a process
Rhule only won 2 games his 1st year at Temple
Players still learning system.

There, I saved you 13$ per month from having to read the premium board.

You claim to be some big badass, successful businessman, and you don't understand that the dollar sign comes before the number and not after? Lol.
Robert Wilson
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Robert Wilson said:

Assassin said:

Robert Wilson said:

Assassin said:

Robert Wilson said:

Assassin said:

Robert Wilson said:

Mothra said:

Gotcha.

I think the complaining on the board is just a release of sorts and don't put much stock into the rants. It's of course understandable why everyone is unhappy. I just haven't gotten to the point where I no longer care whether we are good and am just content spending my time and money watching and attending games when the product on the field is terrible. Maybe that makes me a fair weather fan but I feel like I'm too busy to sit through unenjoyable drubbings. I did that from 99 to 03 and have other things to do. I guess Briles spoiled me.


There is a very large contingent of Baylor fans who are either more or less ok with losing in football and/or think we deserve to lose because we have sinned.
Or it could be that there is a very large contingent of Baylor fans who think that fans who don't moan and mope all over the place are content. Just because we chose not to be negative about everything doesnt mean we accept this.


Both of those things could be true. Do you really disagree with what I said?
Yep. Dont know a single fan who thinks we deserve to lose because we sinned. And I know tons of them


I've heard it said. And if you don't think there's any of that then you are naive about the new Baylor.
I'm calling bullcrap on that. The only folks that say that are the Paul Finebaums of the world, not Baylor fans


Admittedly it was just one, and I doubt she was a football fan. But I suspect that sentiment is more broadly held, in one form or another, even among some of our football fans. They won't say it clearly, but they're more less OK with losing for now and think we deserve it.


By the way, you cannot slide a credit card between the "we deserve to lose" theory and the George Truett/Keyser theory that anyone who is really angry about how this was handled is a rape enabling T-shirt fan.
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Assassin said:

Gunny Hartman said:

Robert Wilson said:

Assassin said:



I'm calling bullcrap on that. The only folks that say that are the Paul Finebaums of the world, not Baylor fans


Admittedly it was just one, and I doubt she was a football fan. But I suspect that sentiment is more broadly held, in one form or another, even among some of our football fans. They won't say it clearly, but they're more less OK with losing for now and think we deserve it.

So ONE person says that to you and you extrapolate that into a "very large contingent of Baylor fans"??
She was a very large person?
lol
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If he is so dang good, why was the decision made to start Anu over Zack. One thing is for sure. We are gonna take a lot of time off the clock and let the defense get ready for every play. Briles approach of stomping on you early and often is my style. It works in college. We shall see. It's way too early to judge his performance but he is not off to the start any of us expected.
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wuzzy bear said:

If he is so dang good, why was the decision made to start Anu over Zack. One thing is for sure. We are gonna take a lot of time off the clock and let the defense get ready for every play. Briles approach of stomping on you early and often is my style. It works in college. We shall see. It's way too early to judge his performance but he is not off to the start any of us expected.
Kirby Freeman started over RG3.

Craig Morton over Roger Staubach and they rotated every play.

Fans have the luxury of hindsight, coaches don't.
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Bumping for all the Rhule haters. Your failure of nerve is mind boggling
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Waco1947 said:

Bumping for all the Rhule haters. Your failure of nerve is mind boggling


It doesn't take nerve to lose football games. Loser.
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MilliVanilli said:

wuzzy bear said:

If he is so dang good, why was the decision made to start Anu over Zack. One thing is for sure. We are gonna take a lot of time off the clock and let the defense get ready for every play. Briles approach of stomping on you early and often is my style. It works in college. We shall see. It's way too early to judge his performance but he is not off to the start any of us expected.
Kirby Freeman started over RG3.

Craig Morton over Roger Staubach and they rotated every play.

Fans have the luxury of hindsight, coaches don't.
Were you at the first Briles game? I was.

Freeman threw 11 passes, completed 4 for 31 yards with two interceptions. Freeman had played for Briles at Stephenville and Briles was using him as a bridge to Griffin. True freshman Griffin threw 11, completed 19 for 125 yards.

Rhule played a transfer (by the way, is he still injured?) for two complete games (both losses) to terrible teams over a very talented freshman and a sophomore who beat Boise State in a bowl game.

 
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