Vegas sets BU O/U win total at 6.5

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DJ Lagway (Baylor)

This is the one I was not expecting. The 6-foot-3, 240-pound signal caller transferred from Florida this offseason after a turbulent couple of years in Gainesville. It looked like his confidence was shot and his body may have been in even worse shape with really big durability concerns.

Despite that, Lagway has made quite an impression on scouts who have been through Baylor this offseason.

According to one area scout:

"No bull****, Lagway was the best quarterback I saw all August, and I saw all the top 6 in next year's class. I went in there ready to throw him in the trash. He is easily the best arm talent of anyone that I saw this offseason, and it's not close, to be honest. But then again, he was a 5-star for a reason. This offseason was the first one he's ever had, at least a full one. I was more impressed with how decisive and accurate he was. He just has never been available for a complete offseason, and he's beginning to turn heads."

A different scout said:

"The Lagway stuff was funny, because I kept passing scouts who kept saying how good he looked for like 2 weeks before I visited, and I'm like, yeah right. And they were my second to last visit. When I got there, it became apparent that they were telling the truth."

Talent has never been the issue for Lagway, but can he be consistently available, and can he be consistent as a decision-maker on the field? Those are the questions worth keeping a close eye on.

Stock: Trending upward fast


Well that's encouraging. But I fear the rest of the team will hold him down. It'll be nice to see him drafted tho, we haven't had a QB drafted in a coons age
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Shippou said:

boognish_bear said:

To me 6-6 or 7-5 would not meet this bar...



Do you think something like 8-4 with a bowl win to push it to 9 could keep him? I think nine is the magic number, either by bowl win or regular season, eight and a loss in a bowl, we've seen this song and dance before. It would really be if you think he can can rising at that point, but it's still a crapshoot at the end of the day, and I personally would can him if I were the AD at that point.


I have zero insight… just a random Internet forum dude.... but I suspect if he gets to 8-4 they would not fire him. I think the administration really likes him as a person and 8-4 would be enough for them to "sell" that he has helped the program turn the corner and things are heading up and bring him back next year. Kind of like what we were hearing after the 2024 season.

That would mean in his tenure he's had records of:

2020 2-7 (it was that weird Covid year)
2021 12-2
2022 6-7
2023 3-9
2024 8-5
2025 5-7
2026 8-4

I'm not advocating keeping him...and I don't even expect him to get to 8-4.... but if he did that seven year track record is not too far off the types of records Grant Teaff was putting together. In 20 years of coaching at Baylor Grant had just three seasons with over 8 wins.
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BUGWBBear
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Guess his Keystone Light got stolen
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Throwback unis not perfect. Helmets need to be old gold.
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CorsicanaBear said:

Throwback unis not perfect. Helmets need to be old gold.


I thought the same thing. I'm a fan of the gold chrome for current alts… but for throwback purposes why not stick with the authentic gold.
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They are getting good pub fwiw

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boognish_bear said:

CorsicanaBear said:

Throwback unis not perfect. Helmets need to be old gold.


I thought the same thing. I'm a fan of the gold chrome for current alts… but for throwback purposes why not stick with the authentic gold.


My guess is they didn't do it because they would have to get another set of helmets. Apparently our current gold helmets are the old set of yellow ones
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I personally think it's nice to have a touch of our modern flashy chrome look threaded into an otherwise traditional look. It connects both eras.
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TheBearableVariabl3 said:

I personally think it's nice to have a touch of our modern flashy chrome look threaded into an otherwise traditional look. It connects both eras.


that makes sense. I overall like the gold helmet, but I do admit that it looks very plastic-ish. I'd be curious to see a mock up of a matte version
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I wish the players had to earn the new uniforms - - you win games then we release the next set of uniforms.
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BluesBear said:

I wish the players had to earn the new uniforms - - you win games then we release the next set of uniforms.


Not much of an incentive when they're getting $200,000 for the season whether we win or lose
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Youre a clown said:

BluesBear said:

I wish the players had to earn the new uniforms - - you win games then we release the next set of uniforms.


Not much of an incentive when they're getting $200,000 for the season whether we win or lose


Their incentive is to get good stats so they can get the hell out of Waco and play for a real coach
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BigGameBaylorBear said:

Youre a clown said:

BluesBear said:

I wish the players had to earn the new uniforms - - you win games then we release the next set of uniforms.


Not much of an incentive when they're getting $200,000 for the season whether we win or lose


Their incentive is to get good stats so they can get the hell out of Waco and play for a real coach

I mean I guess? Tuition paid for, apartment paid for, food paid for including steak dinners multiple times a week, and potential to graduate with six figures in the bank. I would play for a bad coach for that deal regardless of my ability to play at the next level
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GoldBoy232
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I was there, as I'm sure many of you were. It was the beginning of if a decade-plus of Baylor misery.
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boognish_bear said:




FumbleBush never wanted no knee. He begged Steele to let him punch it through. Simpleton listened to him.

Where is FumbleBush these days? Probably bagging groceries in Marlin.
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BUGWBBear said:

dycbaylor02 said:

Danielsjackson114 said:

I just hope we get blown out every game so the decision is black and white for the AD

I mean what's another bad year under Aranda? There's been 5 others..

This AD is a shill. He's here as a yes man.


Been my point all along. Reverse Cowgirl calls his shots.



I get the 'cowgirl' part, but what does 'reverse' part reference?

IMHO, Aranda goes by game 8 and Linda hires Gundy. If I could but money on that I wouldn't hesitate. I don't think Gundy is a bad coach, but his narcissism runs deep (as in telling AD's and media how to do their jobs, and pissing off big donors), and he just can't win championships. I don't have logic in this, but I 'feel' like Gundy will come here and ultimately destroy BU football into a Rice U program status.
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monsterbear61 said:

BUGWBBear said:

dycbaylor02 said:

Danielsjackson114 said:

I just hope we get blown out every game so the decision is black and white for the AD

I mean what's another bad year under Aranda? There's been 5 others..

This AD is a shill. He's here as a yes man.


Been my point all along. Reverse Cowgirl calls his shots.



I get the 'cowgirl' part, but what does 'reverse' part reference?

IMHO, Aranda goes by game 8 and Linda hires Gundy. If I could but money on that I wouldn't hesitate. I don't think Gundy is a bad coach, but his narcissism runs deep (as in telling AD's and media how to do their jobs, and pissing off big donors), and he just can't win championships. I don't have logic in this, but I 'feel' like Gundy will come here and ultimately destroy BU football into a Rice U program status.


We could definitely do a lot worse than Grundy... assuming he still has the drive. But, he is kind of a lightning rod and I don't think that is something BU admin wants to bring in.
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monsterbear61 said:

BUGWBBear said:

dycbaylor02 said:

Danielsjackson114 said:

I just hope we get blown out every game so the decision is black and white for the AD

I mean what's another bad year under Aranda? There's been 5 others..

This AD is a shill. He's here as a yes man.


Been my point all along. Reverse Cowgirl calls his shots.



I get the 'cowgirl' part, but what does 'reverse' part reference?

IMHO, Aranda goes by game 8 and Linda hires Gundy. If I could but money on that I wouldn't hesitate. I don't think Gundy is a bad coach, but his narcissism runs deep (as in telling AD's and media how to do their jobs, and pissing off big donors), and he just can't win championships. I don't have logic in this, but I 'feel' like Gundy will come here and ultimately destroy BU football into a Rice U program status.


She's a Cowgirl graduate of OSU. Now she resides in Baylor, which has no Cowgirl, so she's reversed from her alumni school.
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monsterbear61 said:

BUGWBBear said:

dycbaylor02 said:

Danielsjackson114 said:

I just hope we get blown out every game so the decision is black and white for the AD

I mean what's another bad year under Aranda? There's been 5 others..

This AD is a shill. He's here as a yes man.


Been my point all along. Reverse Cowgirl calls his shots.



I get the 'cowgirl' part, but what does 'reverse' part reference?

IMHO, Aranda goes by game 8 and Linda hires Gundy. If I could but money on that I wouldn't hesitate. I don't think Gundy is a bad coach, but his narcissism runs deep (as in telling AD's and media how to do their jobs, and pissing off big donors), and he just can't win championships. I don't have logic in this, but I 'feel' like Gundy will come here and ultimately destroy BU football into a Rice U program status.




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Danielsjackson114
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Sicem365 staff getting butt hurt.

Lagway does have a lot to prove, and I am afraid it's not gonna happen behind our oline
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I wonder about the offensive line, and also just the weapons he has around him. Very little returning production at the receiver group, and we just lost Taz Williams for a big chunk of the season
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Youre a clown said:

monsterbear61 said:

BUGWBBear said:

dycbaylor02 said:

Danielsjackson114 said:

I just hope we get blown out every game so the decision is black and white for the AD

I mean what's another bad year under Aranda? There's been 5 others..

This AD is a shill. He's here as a yes man.


Been my point all along. Reverse Cowgirl calls his shots.



I get the 'cowgirl' part, but what does 'reverse' part reference?

IMHO, Aranda goes by game 8 and Linda hires Gundy. If I could but money on that I wouldn't hesitate. I don't think Gundy is a bad coach, but his narcissism runs deep (as in telling AD's and media how to do their jobs, and pissing off big donors), and he just can't win championships. I don't have logic in this, but I 'feel' like Gundy will come here and ultimately destroy BU football into a Rice U program status.







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boognish_bear said:

Shippou said:

boognish_bear said:

To me 6-6 or 7-5 would not meet this bar...



Do you think something like 8-4 with a bowl win to push it to 9 could keep him? I think nine is the magic number, either by bowl win or regular season, eight and a loss in a bowl, we've seen this song and dance before. It would really be if you think he can can rising at that point, but it's still a crapshoot at the end of the day, and I personally would can him if I were the AD at that point.


I have zero insight… just a random Internet forum dude.... but I suspect if he gets to 8-4 they would not fire him. I think the administration really likes him as a person and 8-4 would be enough for them to "sell" that he has helped the program turn the corner and things are heading up and bring him back next year. Kind of like what we were hearing after the 2024 season.

That would mean in his tenure he's had records of:

2020 2-7 (it was that weird Covid year)
2021 12-2
2022 6-7
2023 3-9
2024 8-5
2025 5-7
2026 8-4

I'm not advocating keeping him...and I don't even expect him to get to 8-4.... but if he did that seven year track record is not too far off the types of records Grant Teaff was putting together. In 20 years of coaching at Baylor Grant had just three seasons with over 8 wins.

True, but Grant was coaching an 11-game schedule in the old SWC with UT, A&M, Arkansas. We also often had some tough non-con games, and he had 3-4 winning teams that didn't make a bowl game (which were much harder to come by back in the day). If you consider all that, plus our pathetic resources then and how bad we were when Teaff arrived, I think it is clearly more impressive than Dave's modern record in the watered-down Big 12.
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That sounds great… But can we get some of that '21 defense



 
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