OffshoreBear said:
bear2be2 said:
OffshoreBear said:
Lincoln has a 76% winning percentage % and developed 3 Heisman winners. Of course he should be on the list as a top 3-4 candidate.
At blue blood programs, from which he ultimately fled (the SEC was too tough at OU) or will be fired (he's been trash at USC).
Lincoln Riley is soft as hell, and his team's reflect it.
Do not want. At all.
I think calling Riley's time at USC a failure is a little ridiculous when you actually look at the numbers.
He inherited a 4-8 team and went 11-3 his first year. He's 41-20 overall at USC, went 9-4 last year with a 7-2 Big Ten record, and is 6-2 this season.
In 2025, USC ranked 5th nationally in passing offense and 8th in total offense, averaging 35.8 points per game. He also brought in the No. 1 recruiting class in the country for 2026.
Has he met USC's expectations of competing for national championships? No. Are his defenses a concern? Absolutely.
But there's a huge difference between not meeting USC's national championship expectations and being a bad football coach.
We're talking about a coach who knows how to recruit elite talent, develop quarterbacks, and produce some of the best offenses in college football. I certainly wouldn't dismiss him as a candidate for Baylor.
He was a great coach. In the XII. But that hasn't translated well outside of the XII.
We could very well be looking at a 7-5, maybe 6-6 season this year. He just seems to be in over his head outside of the XII.
But yeah, I wouldn't dismiss him at BU at all. He looked like a guru in the XII. He can beat teams in the XII. And landing this guy would be HUGE for BU. Regardless of how he has done outside of the XII.
But is a 7-5, or 6-6 season a sign of a good coach when you have the best recruited team in the land, and the (supposed) gurus of offense and defense at the helm. I'm just saying.
Sometimes not meeting CFP expectations can indeed go hand in hand with poor coaching. Especially if that coach is in conferences he doesn't get. Or can't as easily win against.
He hasn't made a CFP yet with USC. Hell, ucla is going to get there before we do. ucla!
His offenses may have worked against teams in the XII. So yes, BU shouldn't write him off completely. It would probably fit him better. He looked to be a great coach playing the XII. Not so much elsewhere. Which is why he is now being questioned.
He hasn't even won a conference title yet at USC. 11-3, 8-5, 7-6, 9-4 at SC. Again, with a possible 6-6 this year if he can't beat Maryland. And I won't be the least bit surprised if even that happens. He has lost to Maryland in recent years. And he almost gave one away to Rutgers this year for God's sake.
Even with the accolades given to CLR here, USC expects more when it comes to football. And that's not said out of entitlement or arrogance. It's just a fact. 8-5, 7-6, 9-4 and a possible 6-6 this year is not enough. Especially when the guy who is getting those numbers for you is making over ten million dollars a year and is shacked up in a mansion overlooking the blue Pacific.
BU fans should get it. It's the good seasons BU has had in recent times that have had BU fans chomping at the bit to get rid of Dave Aranda. BU fans want more of that, and DA wasn't getting the job done.
USC wants more of that too, and CLR isn't moving the program in the right direction here. It has actually regressed. Or at least, the trajectory has been very shaky at best. Regardless of the things mentioned above.
8-5, 9-4 are not going to be enough going forward. Especially when the crosstown rival, the basketball school, is strutting into the CFP, while USC is saying, well, we have the best recruited class. And we have a great cultivator of QBs. Blah, blah, blah.
So what. What good does all of that do when this highly recruited team is about to go 7-5 at best, 6-6 at worst.
I appreciate the attempts at looking at the positive, but that's like California saying, 'Well, hey! We're the 4th largest economy in the world.'
LOL. So what. Who exactly is that economy working for? If it was actually working, people wouldn't be leaving. Businesses wouldn't be leaving. For places like Texas. Or Georgia. Of all places.
All those CLR accolades are nice attempts at complimenting him, but it doesn't change the fact that SC hasn't been to the CFP yet. And that is due in very large part, if not entirely, to coaching.
Now, that coaching staff very likely would do great things for BU. In the XII. But it ain't working elsewhere.
I would just say, if BU does land CLR, watch out for Utah every year. They've got his number.