This is fun. Sicthe12 just continues to show his ass. Just like predicted.

SicThe12 said:

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bularry said:

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How many head coaches with P5 coaching experience are getting fired this year?

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not enough

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all of them, maybe? so your metric is pretty worthless.

This is exactly why neither Tennessee nor any legit P5 program would touch Monty with a 10 foot pole.

There was no doubt. Zero.

SicThe12 said:

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Bona Fide Bear said:

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Rhule was the DL coach at UCLA.

And other than 2 years as RB coach at Tech, Briles didn't bring any significant P5 coaching experience. Did he work out ok (other than the whole program management issues)?

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Rhule was an assistant DL coach, that's basically being a GA.

And you can't make a point saying "other than two years" By that logic other than two years, Rhule has never had a winning season.

See how that works?

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I like how you try to move the goal posts the second your claim blows up in your face.

Rhule had P5 experience, end of story.

It certainly is entertaining.

Robemcdo said:

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blackie said:

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Grant Teaff says "Hi". .

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Actually Taeff did say hi. He was guest of the AD at Liberty game on Saturday in Virginia . Wife as well..Delightful woman

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You seem incredibly obsessed with liberty and FAU and always seem lost by being here.

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cowboycwr said:

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SicThe12 said:

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It's an honest question. Rhule has never been a position coach, OC/DC, HC at a P5 school. That is NOT the norm when you look at the resumes of successful P5 coaches. Matt Campbell comes to mind but to call him successful at this stage is premature.

Anyone?

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Urban Meyer.

Unless you count his Grad assistant time at Ohio State.

He also had some years at Notre Dame

But then he was head coach at Bowling Green, Utah (before they were pac 12) and his first P5 job was Florida

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those 4 years at ND disqualify him. The people of this thread have spoken. ND counts.

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Then so does Rhule's time in the BCS conference.

While I don't like Rhule and I get the point of your post I think the rules have been so convoluted that your own claim is flawed and proven wrong.

MilliVanilli said:

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Robemcdo said:

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blackie said:

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Grant Teaff says "Hi". .

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Actually Taeff did say hi. He was guest of the AD at Liberty game on Saturday in Virginia . Wife as well..Delightful woman

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You seem incredibly obsessed with liberty and FAU and always seem lost by being here.

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Thought the fan base might find it interesting that their beloved coach is still willing to stand beside the former AD after all his 'enabling '

cowboycwr said:

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SicThe12 said:

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cowboycwr said:

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SicThe12 said:

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It's an honest question. Rhule has never been a position coach, OC/DC, HC at a P5 school. That is NOT the norm when you look at the resumes of successful P5 coaches. Matt Campbell comes to mind but to call him successful at this stage is premature.

Anyone?

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Urban Meyer.

Unless you count his Grad assistant time at Ohio State.

He also had some years at Notre Dame

But then he was head coach at Bowling Green, Utah (before they were pac 12) and his first P5 job was Florida

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those 4 years at ND disqualify him. The people of this thread have spoken. ND counts.

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Then so does Rhule's time in the BCS conference.

While I don't like Rhule and I get the point of your post I think the rules have been so convoluted that your own claim is flawed and proven wrong.

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The OP has fled this topic. There was an in your face mods thread yesterday on Stidham. This thread is a convoluted attempt to be clever in slamming Rhule. He came out too strong in claiming that there are none that you knew he was painted into a corner.

This is going outside this question, but guys that did serious time at MAC and other small conferences like Urban Meyer, Pinkel, etc. are an interesting topic. There are some others that did not work. The Iowa State coach, Matt Campbell, may be one that does. By comparison the longtime P5 assistant/coordinator path is an interesting contrast. One seems more blue collar where the other seems more blue blood.

Two disgraced peas in a pod (Briles and McCaw) that colluded in their corruption have to corroborate with each other until the bitter end, so let us all feign surprise.

But try to make a mountain out of a mole hill about Teaff being pleasant in all circumstances, he's that kind of a class act.

NoBSU said:

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cowboycwr said:

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SicThe12 said:

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cowboycwr said:

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SicThe12 said:

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It's an honest question. Rhule has never been a position coach, OC/DC, HC at a P5 school. That is NOT the norm when you look at the resumes of successful P5 coaches. Matt Campbell comes to mind but to call him successful at this stage is premature.

Anyone?

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Urban Meyer.

Unless you count his Grad assistant time at Ohio State.

He also had some years at Notre Dame

But then he was head coach at Bowling Green, Utah (before they were pac 12) and his first P5 job was Florida

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those 4 years at ND disqualify him. The people of this thread have spoken. ND counts.

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Then so does Rhule's time in the BCS conference.

While I don't like Rhule and I get the point of your post I think the rules have been so convoluted that your own claim is flawed and proven wrong.

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The OP has fled this topic. There was an in your face mods thread yesterday on Stidham. This thread is a convoluted attempt to be clever in slamming Rhule. He came out too strong in claiming that there are none that you knew he was painted into a corner.

This is going outside this question, but guys that did serious time at MAC and other small conferences like Urban Meyer, Pinkel, etc. are an interesting topic. There are some others that did not work. The Iowa State coach, Matt Campbell, may be one that does. By comparison the longtime P5 assistant/coordinator path is an interesting contrast. One seems more blue collar where the other seems more blue blood.

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I haven't fled you're telling me the AAC was a BCS school. Me and you have nothing left to discuss.

MilliVanilli said:

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Robemcdo said:

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blackie said:

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Grant Teaff says "Hi". .

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Actually Taeff did say hi. He was guest of the AD at Liberty game on Saturday in Virginia . Wife as well..Delightful woman

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You seem incredibly obsessed with liberty and FAU and always seem lost by being here.

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look whos back, luck running out it?

SicThe12 said:

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NoBSU said:

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cowboycwr said:

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SicThe12 said:

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cowboycwr said:

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SicThe12 said:

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It's an honest question. Rhule has never been a position coach, OC/DC, HC at a P5 school. That is NOT the norm when you look at the resumes of successful P5 coaches. Matt Campbell comes to mind but to call him successful at this stage is premature.

Anyone?

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Urban Meyer.

Unless you count his Grad assistant time at Ohio State.

He also had some years at Notre Dame

But then he was head coach at Bowling Green, Utah (before they were pac 12) and his first P5 job was Florida

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those 4 years at ND disqualify him. The people of this thread have spoken. ND counts.

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Then so does Rhule's time in the BCS conference.

While I don't like Rhule and I get the point of your post I think the rules have been so convoluted that your own claim is flawed and proven wrong.

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The OP has fled this topic. There was an in your face mods thread yesterday on Stidham. This thread is a convoluted attempt to be clever in slamming Rhule. He came out too strong in claiming that there are none that you knew he was painted into a corner.

This is going outside this question, but guys that did serious time at MAC and other small conferences like Urban Meyer, Pinkel, etc. are an interesting topic. There are some others that did not work. The Iowa State coach, Matt Campbell, may be one that does. By comparison the longtime P5 assistant/coordinator path is an interesting contrast. One seems more blue collar where the other seems more blue blood.

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I haven't fled you're telling me the AAC was a BCS school. Me and you have nothing left to discuss.

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Google will prove that I am correct. Take a stab at it.

You suck at this by the way.

From 2013-14 Wiki Bowl article

"Bowl Championship Series Edit
Ten teams were selected for the Bowl Championship Series:

Conference Champions
American: UCF
ACC: Florida State
Big 12: Baylor
Big Ten: Michigan State
Pac-12: Stanford
SEC: Auburn
At-large selections
Alabama (SEC)
Clemson (ACC)
Ohio State (Big Ten)
Oklahoma (Big 12)"

The basketball schools left the Big East yet wanted the name do the AAC schools kept the BCS founding member status. Face it. You are wrong on this. Your Navy had a BCS schedule excuse for Patterson is a joke. The 1995 Navy and 2913 Temple schedules are about 75% identicke. I provided links. You could have tried to DQ Patterson on his K State GA but you already peacocked up on Rhule's assistant position coach job being as low as a GA.

SicThe12 said:

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MilliVanilli said:

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Robemcdo said:

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blackie said:

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Grant Teaff says "Hi". .

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Actually Taeff did say hi. He was guest of the AD at Liberty game on Saturday in Virginia . Wife as well..Delightful woman

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You seem incredibly obsessed with liberty and FAU and always seem lost by being here.

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look whos back, luck running out it?

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Pardon? I'm with you until the end of time, a specter that haunts your psyche at all times and all threads whether I post or not.

MilliVanilli said:

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SicThe12 said:

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MilliVanilli said:

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Robemcdo said:

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blackie said:

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Grant Teaff says "Hi". .

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Actually Taeff did say hi. He was guest of the AD at Liberty game on Saturday in Virginia . Wife as well..Delightful woman

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You seem incredibly obsessed with liberty and FAU and always seem lost by being here.

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look whos back, luck running out it?

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Pardon? I'm with you until the end of time, a specter that haunts your psyche at all times and all threads whether I post or not.

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Until another internet stranger triggers you into another insult filled rant. Try to control your emotions.

SicThe12 said:

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MilliVanilli said:

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SicThe12 said:

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MilliVanilli said:

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Robemcdo said:

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blackie said:

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Grant Teaff says "Hi". .

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Actually Taeff did say hi. He was guest of the AD at Liberty game on Saturday in Virginia . Wife as well..Delightful woman

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You seem incredibly obsessed with liberty and FAU and always seem lost by being here.

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look whos back, luck running out it?

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Pardon? I'm with you until the end of time, a specter that haunts your psyche at all times and all threads whether I post or not.

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Until another internet stranger triggers you into another insult filled rant. Try to control your emotions.

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You seem humorously unaware of your own posts, you're being triggered without provocation as we speak.

And you're so devastated by the prospect that you've gone out of your way to confirm to everyone how obsessed you are and tormented by an internet poster.

MilliVanilli said:

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Two disgraced peas in a pod that colluded in their corruption have to corroborate with each other until the bitter end, so let us all feign surprise.

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Teaff ..disgraced pea? Seems a little harsh? You're saying he was in on it too?

Robemcdo said:

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MilliVanilli said:

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Two disgraced peas in a pod that colluded in their corruption have to corroborate with each other until the bitter end, so let us all feign surprise.

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Teaff ..disgraced pea? Seems a little harsh? You're saying he was in on it too?

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I'm saying you're full of crap, a troll with tangential ties to the disgraced regime that will stop at nothing to inject farcical praise for Ian McCaw and Art Briles into threads whenever and however you can no matter what.


The agenda has run its course, time to retire it.

I remember there was a thread on BF a few years ago trying to discredit Drew because he had never played college basketball. Whoever started that thread, said something very similar to this thread, something like "what coach has ever been successful without any CBB playing experience?" This was before Drew turned the program into a pretty good program and the poster was trying to discredit Drew's qualifications. I wish BF was still around so I could necropost that thread lol

Bona Fide Bear said:

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I remember there was a thread on BF a few years ago trying to discredit Drew because he had never played college basketball. Whoever started that thread, said something very similar to this thread, something like "what coach has ever been successful without any CBB playing experience?" This was before Drew turned the program into a pretty good program and the poster was trying to discredit Drew's qualifications. I wish BF was still around so I could necropost that thread lol

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I remember that thread. While playing the sport helps there are many coaches out there in many sports that never played past high school and are really good coaches. There are many who played Juco, division 3, 2 or 1AA (FCS) that are really good.

There are also lots of players that were really good who have not been that good of coaches. In any sport.

I think the list of hall of fame, allstar/ all pro, etc players that are great coaches across all sports all time would be less than 30.

The same goes for where a coach learned. There have been lots of examples in this thread who have a year or two (or less than 5 years out of their 30 year career) at a P5 school before they became a head coach who have had lots of success. The 2 are not mutually exclusive.