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Anyone know the significance of this ?

Baylor University's petition to protect about 6,200 current and former students' privacy regarding records related to "sex" or "sexual conduct generally" since 2003 has been denied, according to a Monday ruling by the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.
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1:49p, 12/12/17
Well it sure doesnt mean hiring the philly fillies worked a dadgum bit.
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1:59p, 12/12/17
It means RR, TLD, and the Chief gonna be prepping for depos.
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2:00p, 12/12/17
It means the public probably through news reports of the litigation gets to know about sexual assaults that have been covered up back to 2003 and not just selectively disclosed ones having to do with football. Regent and administration cover up gets the light shined on it, unless of course a huge check is written to dispose of all of this.
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In reply to PartyBear • 2:15p, 12/12/17
PartyBear said:
It means the public probably through news reports of the litigation gets to know about sexual assaults that have been covered up back to 2003 and not just selectively disclosed ones having to do with football. Regent and administration cover up gets the light shined on it, unless of course a huge check is written to dispose of all of this.


I'm not sure a check will be big enough to make this go away quietly. And I'm not sure that is the prime motivation for this latest action. Baylor has ducked behind the private, religious school cover for a long time and for a variety of reasons but the business of criminal activity isn't one that the shield will deflect.

It is likely that enough evidence has been obtained to substantiate reasonable credibility to the womens' accounts to justify going forward. The depositions will be interesting for most and highly stressful to a few.
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In reply to PartyBear • 2:18p, 12/12/17
PartyBear said:
It means the public probably through news reports of the litigation gets to know about sexual assaults that have been covered up back to 2003 and not just selectively disclosed ones having to do with football. Regent and administration cover up gets the light shined on it, unless of course a huge check is written to dispose of all of this.
Back to 2003 isn't going to exonerate Ian McCaw the way his shill Robemcd is hoping.

That's the beginning of his tenure as a supposed Tile 9 extraordinaire.




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In reply to YoakDaddy • 2:28p, 12/12/17
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It means RR, TLD, and the Chief gonna be prepping for depos.


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2:28p, 12/12/17
Does this mean Ian, Buddy, Dary and Reagan will all be exposed?
If so I have my popcorn ready. This show is about to get LIT.
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3:18p, 12/12/17
http://www.wacotrib.com/news/higher_education/th-u-s-circuit-court-of-appeals-denies-baylor-s/article_59657c47-94b4-519e-8912-9fde5e814adf.html

I suspect it means Baylor will settle and seal everything before anyone gets to know the truth.
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3:27p, 12/12/17
Time for some of the little piggies at Pat Neff to face the music.
"There were a number of us just crying out to God." - Baylor Regent Dennis Wiles

During the meeting, one of the regents started crying and pounding on the table, saying "Not my Baylor," and "Why do we have to listen to any more of this?"
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3:39p, 12/12/17
more checks getting cashed soon ?
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3:40p, 12/12/17
I hope this finally cleans house the way it should have been cleaned long ago!
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In reply to Steve Taylor • 3:45p, 12/12/17
Steve Taylor said:
http://www.wacotrib.com/news/higher_education/th-u-s-circuit-court-of-appeals-denies-baylor-s/article_59657c47-94b4-519e-8912-9fde5e814adf.html

I suspect it means Baylor will settle and seal everything before anyone gets to know the truth.
""It's clear that Baylor will do anything to conceal the magnitude of the sexual assault crisis that's been going on for years," he said at the time."

"will do anything", eh? That's a sexist smear intended to silence Baylor's voice.
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In reply to Robemcdo • 3:59p, 12/12/17
Robemcdo said:
Anyone know the significance of this ?

Baylor University's petition to protect about 6,200 current and former students' privacy regarding records related to "sex" or "sexual conduct generally" since 2003 has been denied, according to a Monday ruling by the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.


Laughing out loud.

Yes. It means that the plaintiffs lawyers are searching for additional troughs of dollars - long after a majority of the settlements.

A poster here said you may be a plaintiffs lawyer and either represent or are a friend of Baylor's former AD - who was fired. Is that accurate?

Does this mean you are trying to access said troughs for your client or friend?

Come straight with us - you posted this to mess with the school, right?

It's okay. You are not being deposed. You are not under oath. You can just set the record straight as to where people here are wrong.

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In reply to Singletary63 • 4:03p, 12/12/17
Singletary63 said:
Does this mean Ian, Buddy, Dary and Reagan will all be exposed?
If so I have my popcorn ready. This show is about to get LIT.
Ian is going to look like he managed our athletic department like homeless run their homeless camps. It is going to show Baylor had nary an ounce of situational awareness.
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In reply to LionBear • 4:07p, 12/12/17
TV55 said:
Robemcdo said:
Anyone know the significance of this ?

Baylor University's petition to protect about 6,200 current and former students' privacy regarding records related to "sex" or "sexual conduct generally" since 2003 has been denied, according to a Monday ruling by the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.


Laughing out loud.

Yes. It means that the plaintiffs lawyers are searching for additional troughs of dollars - long after a majority of the settlements.

A poster here said you may be a plaintiffs lawyer and either represent or are a friend of Baylor's former AD - who was fired. Is that accurate?

Does this mean you are trying to access said troughs for your client or friend?

Come straight with us - you posted this to mess with the school, right?

It's okay. You are not being deposed. You are not under oath. You can just set the record straight as to where people here are wrong.



I'm a Baylor fan
Just like everyone else here
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In reply to xiledinok • 4:09p, 12/12/17
Baylor University reported approximately 0 rapes from 2011-2014. But yeah, solely football is of the devil. If only Baylor would have stuck to its Christian Mission then none of this would have happened.
"There were a number of us just crying out to God." - Baylor Regent Dennis Wiles

During the meeting, one of the regents started crying and pounding on the table, saying "Not my Baylor," and "Why do we have to listen to any more of this?"
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In reply to Steve Taylor • 4:09p, 12/12/17
Steve Taylor said:
http://www.wacotrib.com/news/higher_education/th-u-s-circuit-court-of-appeals-denies-baylor-s/article_59657c47-94b4-519e-8912-9fde5e814adf.html

I suspect it means Baylor will settle and seal everything before anyone gets to know the truth.


I suspect that's exactly what BU is hoping for and will work toward. If this were all about $$$$ for victims this would likely be the end result. I'm convinced this is about more...that there is a serious goal of obtaining convictions for activity deemed "criminal activity". Whether or not that can be done is another matter...if the deposed end up having to plead out, that might keep it quiet. The discovery ought to be delicious if you like such business.
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In reply to drahthaar • 4:12p, 12/12/17
witchmo said:
Steve Taylor said:
http://www.wacotrib.com/news/higher_education/th-u-s-circuit-court-of-appeals-denies-baylor-s/article_59657c47-94b4-519e-8912-9fde5e814adf.html

I suspect it means Baylor will settle and seal everything before anyone gets to know the truth.


I suspect that's exactly what BU is hoping for and will work toward. If this were all about $$$$ for victims this would likely be the end result. I'm convinced this is about more...that there is a serious goal of obtaining convictions for activity deemed "criminal activity". Whether or not that can be done is another matter...if the deposed end up having to plead out, that might keep it quiet. The discovery ought to be delicious if you like such business.
Sure would like to see some emails about how the volleyball situation was handled.
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In reply to LionBear • 4:13p, 12/12/17
TV55 said:
Robemcdo said:
Anyone know the significance of this ?

Baylor University's petition to protect about 6,200 current and former students' privacy regarding records related to "sex" or "sexual conduct generally" since 2003 has been denied, according to a Monday ruling by the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.


Laughing out loud.

Yes. It means that the plaintiffs lawyers are searching for additional troughs of dollars - long after a majority of the settlements.

A poster here said you may be a plaintiffs lawyer and either represent or are a friend of Baylor's former AD - who was fired. Is that accurate?

Does this mean you are trying to access said troughs for your client or friend?

Come straight with us - you posted this to mess with the school, right?

It's okay. You are not being deposed. You are not under oath. You can just set the record straight as to where people here are wrong.


Nah, the BoR does just fine on without help.
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In reply to Robemcdo • 4:18p, 12/12/17
Robemcdo said:
TV55 said:
Robemcdo said:
Anyone know the significance of this ?

Baylor University's petition to protect about 6,200 current and former students' privacy regarding records related to "sex" or "sexual conduct generally" since 2003 has been denied, according to a Monday ruling by the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.


Laughing out loud.

Yes. It means that the plaintiffs lawyers are searching for additional troughs of dollars - long after a majority of the settlements.

A poster here said you may be a plaintiffs lawyer and either represent or are a friend of Baylor's former AD - who was fired. Is that accurate?

Does this mean you are trying to access said troughs for your client or friend?

Come straight with us - you posted this to mess with the school, right?

It's okay. You are not being deposed. You are not under oath. You can just set the record straight as to where people here are wrong.



I'm a Baylor fan
Just like everyone else here
Gotcha. Any other angle(s) we should know about?
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In reply to LionBear • 7:11p, 12/12/17
TV55 said:
Robemcdo said:
TV55 said:
Robemcdo said:
Anyone know the significance of this ?

Baylor University's petition to protect about 6,200 current and former students' privacy regarding records related to "sex" or "sexual conduct generally" since 2003 has been denied, according to a Monday ruling by the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.


Laughing out loud.

Yes. It means that the plaintiffs lawyers are searching for additional troughs of dollars - long after a majority of the settlements.

A poster here said you may be a plaintiffs lawyer and either represent or are a friend of Baylor's former AD - who was fired. Is that accurate?

Does this mean you are trying to access said troughs for your client or friend?

Come straight with us - you posted this to mess with the school, right?

It's okay. You are not being deposed. You are not under oath. You can just set the record straight as to where people here are wrong.



I'm a Baylor fan
Just like everyone else here
Gotcha. Any other angle(s) we should know about?
It depends who is logged into the account.
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7:42p, 12/12/17
Does anyone recall why 2003 was the date chosen? I know that SA claims reaching as far back as 1997 came forward looking for payout (not saying they didn't happen), but was wondering why 2003.

It sure would've been nice if the BOFR would've been transparent from the beginning like many of us recommended instead of hiding behind student privacy the way terrorists hide behind children.
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In reply to LionBear • 6:00a, 12/13/17
TV55 said:
Robemcdo said:
TV55 said:
Robemcdo said:
Anyone know the significance of this ?

Baylor University's petition to protect about 6,200 current and former students' privacy regarding records related to "sex" or "sexual conduct generally" since 2003 has been denied, according to a Monday ruling by the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.


Laughing out loud.

Yes. It means that the plaintiffs lawyers are searching for additional troughs of dollars - long after a majority of the settlements.

A poster here said you may be a plaintiffs lawyer and either represent or are a friend of Baylor's former AD - who was fired. Is that accurate?

Does this mean you are trying to access said troughs for your client or friend?

Come straight with us - you posted this to mess with the school, right?

It's okay. You are not being deposed. You are not under oath. You can just set the record straight as to where people here are wrong.



I'm a Baylor fan
Just like everyone else here
Gotcha. Any other angle(s) we should know about?


Angle ? You can't be serious ? We've got paid posters all over this place and you want MY angle??

Here it is

Not a. Baylor grad . Cdn . Have known former Ad for 35 years . Which does allow me to say with 100%! Certainly that any allegation of negligence and coverup simply did not happen . I have not met personally any other participants in this

I've been to Baylor. Finest place on this planet . At least it was until it was brought to its knees by lies a dishonest media and by some of its own regents

I said after Baylor got beat by a high school team that this would continue. It did. I want Baylor to return to what I used to know

But I happen to believe that Baylor will continue to reside in hell until the truth comes out. And I would think a Christian school like Baylor would understand this .

I know what happened at Baylor. I've a feeling many on here know too. It's tough to admit you been deceived ..that you've been had. But that's the way back for Baylor

Admit that Mccaw Briles etc were sacrificed to cover up lies of others

Admit that the big black savages on the football team are nothing of the kind

Then you get your Baylor back . Until then , enjoy the descent

That's my angle

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In reply to Singletary63 • 6:33a, 12/13/17
Singletary63 said:
Does this mean Ian, Buddy, Dary and Reagan will all be exposed?
If so I have my popcorn ready. This show is about to get LIT.


Depositions might get really entertaining with that bunch. Ol' Tommye Lou might have to tell what she knows, too. These folks never learn. I hear she's trying to get her ownself appointed to a board position with the BGCT Scott & White/Hillcrest. She still draws a paycheck from Baylor which makes her ineligible. Gotta keep trying to scrub up the resume I suppose.
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In reply to Robemcdo • 6:37a, 12/13/17
Robemcdo said:
TV55 said:
Robemcdo said:
TV55 said:
Robemcdo said:
Anyone know the significance of this ?

Baylor University's petition to protect about 6,200 current and former students' privacy regarding records related to "sex" or "sexual conduct generally" since 2003 has been denied, according to a Monday ruling by the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.


Laughing out loud.

Yes. It means that the plaintiffs lawyers are searching for additional troughs of dollars - long after a majority of the settlements.

A poster here said you may be a plaintiffs lawyer and either represent or are a friend of Baylor's former AD - who was fired. Is that accurate?

Does this mean you are trying to access said troughs for your client or friend?

Come straight with us - you posted this to mess with the school, right?

It's okay. You are not being deposed. You are not under oath. You can just set the record straight as to where people here are wrong.



I'm a Baylor fan
Just like everyone else here
Gotcha. Any other angle(s) we should know about?


Angle ? You can't be serious ? We've got paid posters all over this place and you want MY angle??

Here it is

Not a. Baylor grad . Cdn . Have known former Ad for 35 years . Which does allow me to say with 100%! Certainly that any allegation of negligence and coverup simply did not happen . I have not met personally any other participants in this

I've been to Baylor. Finest place on this planet . At least it was until it was brought to its knees by lies a dishonest media and by some of its own regents

I said after Baylor got beat by a high school team that this would continue. It did. I want Baylor to return to what I used to know

But I happen to believe that Baylor will continue to reside in hell until the truth comes out. And I would think a Christian school like Baylor would understand this .

I know what happened at Baylor. I've a feeling many on here know too. It's tough to admit you been deceived ..that you've been had. But that's the way back for Baylor

Admit that Mccaw Briles etc were sacrificed to cover up lies of others

Admit that the big black savages on the football team are nothing of the kind

Then you get your Baylor back . Until then , enjoy the descent

That's my angle



Are you saying ol' Ian was just an innocent bystander? I thought he was in charge?
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6:46a, 12/13/17
Your answer is at the top of the page

This thread has been moved out of football . Because this 'story' has nothing to do with football or Athletics .
So yes what you posted is correct
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In reply to Robemcdo • 7:08a, 12/13/17
Robemcdo said:
Your answer is at the top of the page

This thread has been moved out of football . Because this 'story' has nothing to do with football or Athletics .
So yes what you posted is correct


Ok. I read the top of the page. Are you saying Ian was not in charge of his own department? That he had no knowledge of anything going on around his ownself? If true, he should have been fired for gross incompetence.
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In reply to Stranger • 8:56a, 12/13/17
Stranger said:
Singletary63 said:
Does this mean Ian, Buddy, Dary and Reagan will all be exposed?
If so I have my popcorn ready. This show is about to get LIT.


Depositions might get really entertaining with that bunch. Ol' Tommye Lou might have to tell what she knows, too. These folks never learn. I hear she's trying to get her ownself appointed to a board position with the BGCT Scott & White/Hillcrest. She still draws a paycheck from Baylor which makes her ineligible. Gotta keep trying to scrub up the resume I suppose.

Isn't Drayton a Big Cigar when it comes to Baylor Scott & White? If so, I don't see McLane letting this happen.
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9:14a, 12/13/17
get this CRAP outta here

this is the RACE AND IT'S POLITICS SECTION!!!
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9:16a, 12/13/17
I don't think this case can be settled with a check. I feel like these 10 women bringing the case want justice and the information out there. Not just money.

This case and the investigations by the Texas Rangers and US Department of Education are the best chances for the truth and information to come out. Especially the later two. No way that Baylor can do anything to prevent their findings from going public.
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9:23a, 12/13/17
This will shoehorn in nicely...

False rape allegations.
Kanin EJ1.
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Abstract
With the cooperation of the police agency of a small metropolitan community, 45 consecutive, disposed, false rape allegations covering a 9 year period were studied. These false rape allegations constitute 41% the total forcible rape cases (n = 109) reported during this period. These false allegations appear to serve three major functions for the complainants: providing an alibi, seeking revenge, and obtaining sympathy and attention. False rape allegations are not the consequence of a gender-linked aberration, as frequently claimed, but reflect impulsive and desperate efforts to cope with personal and social stress situations.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8135653
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In reply to Stranger • 10:25a, 12/13/17
Stranger said:
Robemcdo said:
Your answer is at the top of the page

This thread has been moved out of football . Because this 'story' has nothing to do with football or Athletics .
So yes what you posted is correct


Ok. I read the top of the page. Are you saying Ian was not in charge of his own department? That he had no knowledge of anything going on around his ownself? If true, he should have been fired for gross incompetence.
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Eric Treszoks Politics, Religion, Etc
This has nothing to do with athletics. Nothing. There are some corrupt people in in Waco. You might want to look west of the 35. That's were this started. Putting innocent people in jail. Which they do every single day.

There was nothing going in Athletics aside from Athletics..which I believe was operating quite effectively. This is all smoke and mirrors. Has been from the start.
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10:58a, 12/13/17
Ian ran the athletic department like a homeless camp. Fear, intimidation, lack of values, and a complete lack of situational awareness were all present.
Neanderthals could have done less damage.

Buddy and Dary have built a nice wall for themselves.
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In reply to Robemcdo • 11:04a, 12/13/17
Robemcdo said:
Stranger said:
Robemcdo said:
Your answer is at the top of the page

This thread has been moved out of football . Because this 'story' has nothing to do with football or Athletics .
So yes what you posted is correct


Ok. I read the top of the page. Are you saying Ian was not in charge of his own department? That he had no knowledge of anything going on around his ownself? If true, he should have been fired for gross incompetence.
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Eric Treszoks Politics, Religion, Etc
This has nothing to do with athletics. Nothing. There are some corrupt people in in Waco. You might want to look west of the 35. That's were this started. Putting innocent people in jail. Which they do every single day.

There was nothing going in Athletics aside from Athletics..which I believe was operating quite effectively. This is all smoke and mirrors. Has been from the start.


Ian did not operate in a vacuum. If he knew things were going on around him and did nothing, he was complicit. Same with Art. I never saw a coach at any level, who didn't know everything going on with every kid on the team. That's what assistants are for.

I know Ian is your buddy forever (or maybe you are Ian) but he won't tell you anything he doesn't want out because he knows you are talking in this board all the time. I know that's hard for you to take but it's reality.

If he was clean, he wouldn't have left
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