Which final reg. season record is more likely?

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MrGolfguy
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Of these 2 choices only (please don't answer something else):
A. 2-10 (marginally better than '17)
B. 6-6 (mediocre bowl game)

I think it will be interesting to see what the unwashed masses (free board) of BU fans think. Take everything you need into consideration, i.e. last year's results, returning players, departed players, coaching staff, fan interest level/excitement, strength of opponents, home or away game, weather, & anything else you deem important. Please don't answer you think 3-9 or 4-8 or 5-7, etc is more likely. You can choose only 2-10 or 6-6 which i believe the majority of people see as the two 'extremes' of how this season will go (Baylor will be virtually the same as last year or actually show marked improvement and qualify for a bowl game). Which 'extreme' is more likely? Take some time to think about it, it's not a quick, easy answer (at least for me). No need to explain your answer either, you can but i'm really just looking for your choice. Thanks for your input.
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6/6
DustyM
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MrGolfguy said:

Of these 2 choices only (please don't answer something else):
A. 2-10 (marginally better than '17)
B. 6-6 (mediocre bowl game)

I think it will be interesting to see what the unwashed masses (free board) of BU fans think. Take everything you need into consideration, i.e. last year's results, returning players, departed players, coaching staff, fan interest level/excitement, strength of opponents, home or away game, weather, & anything else you deem important. Please don't answer you think 3-9 or 4-8 or 5-7, etc is more likely. You can choose only 2-10 or 6-6 which i believe the majority of people see as the two 'extremes' of how this season will go (Baylor will be virtually the same as last year or actually show marked improvement and qualify for a bowl game). Which 'extreme' is more likely? Take some time to think about it, it's not a quick, easy answer (at least for me). No need to explain your answer either, you can but i'm really just looking for your choice. Thanks for your input.


A, but actually I believe it will be 3-9. Now in 2019 we might see B, but not this year.
Forest Bueller
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6-6
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SigTauBear
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5-7
SFLBear
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I hope to win our all of our non-conference games and Kansas. We will be competitive in our conference schedule but will come up short. So no worse than 4-8 is my hope. I have set no expectations. The BOR robbed me of those.
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I think 6-6 is more likely than 2-10.
Aberzombie1892
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So the real question being posed appears to be whether one believes that Baylor will be better or worse than 4-8.

Better (6-6).
Dman
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Too much talent. A good staff finds a way to go 6-6 over 2-10. I'm hoping Rhule and staff come through.
BoonDockSaint
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6 and 6

Unless we do a Dave Roberts year 1 and year 2

Lose a lotta real close games

But i dont think ... Given the recruiting that we will b only a 3 win team


I like Brewers leadership

And its hard to stay at 3 wins...with a real leader under center
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I'm not sure I can pick either, but I'll say 6-6. If Baylor isn't significanly improved on the field and looking like a team on the rise I expect Rhule's recruiting mojo will start to suffer in a big way.

2-10 is still ****ing disaster. Even if it's the "five plays away from 8-4" kind of 2-10.
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2-10. Thank God for Kansas.
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BUBear24
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6-6
Robert Wilson
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6-6

But 4-8 is more likely than either imo.
YoakDaddy
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Which extreme is more likely?

A. 2-10 IMO because past performance is indicative of future results, Vegas consensus is 5.5 last I checked, and we seem not to take into account teams in the rest of the league....all teams will be better except for Kansas....look out for WVU and ISU this season.
lakersfan34
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2-10 more likely due to inadequate line play and suspect coaching/strategy based on last year's sample
jbbear
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YoakDaddy said:

Which extreme is more likely?

A. 2-10 IMO because past performance is indicative of future results, Vegas consensus is 5.5 last I checked, and we seem not to take into account teams in the rest of the league....all teams will be better except for Kansas....look out for WVU and ISU this season.
All teams will be better except for Kansas.......you think OU will be better? Tech will be better based on what? OSU better without Washington and Rudolph? Are you willing to bet on all teams being better? LOL
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jbbear said:

YoakDaddy said:

Which extreme is more likely?

A. 2-10 IMO because past performance is indicative of future results, Vegas consensus is 5.5 last I checked, and we seem not to take into account teams in the rest of the league....all teams will be better except for Kansas....look out for WVU and ISU this season.
All teams will be better except for Kansas.......you think OU will be better? Tech will be better based on what? OSU better without Washington and Rudolph? Are you willing to bet on all teams being better? LOL

Let me clarify....will be at full strength. Nonetheless, all of the teams you mentioned will beat us. No need to get triggered. 1-11 last season speaks for itself.
Mitch Blood Green
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Between 4 and 5 wins. I'll go with 4.4
CorsicanaBear
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3-9. Wins against ACU, UTSA (might be a stretch) and KU. No others probable.
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RealLarryDon
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Much closer to 2-10 than 6-6, and we lose to either KU or UTSA.
Aberzombie1892
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jabber is right though in the sense that not everyone will be better.

Team by team look:

Oklahoma State - Worse. Their offense will likely be their worst in years with the loss of their QB and #1 WR even with the Hawaii QB transfer and the blue chip true freshman at QB. Their defense should see an improvement with the implementation of the new, more aggressive defensive coordinator, but any improvement on defense would be unlikely to compensate for the offensive regression.

Oklahoma - Push. They lost their best QB of all time, but, to be fair, they are replacing that QB with a QB that went undefeated during his time as a HS QB, and Riley's innovative play calling in 2017 provides him with the benefit of the doubt that he will scheme up plays to take advantage of the traits of that new QB. However, that being said, the real question for Oklahoma will be how much its defense improves with new schemes, depth from the 2018 recruiting class, and the addition of Bob Diaco.

TCU - Push. They have a lot of turnover, but Patterson has earned the presumption of having TCU playing at a high level, especially on defense, unless proven otherwise as shown by his 3 top 10 AP finishes out of the last 4 seasons. TCU has to break in a new QB starter and has to ensure that the OL is where it needs to be, and neither of those are easy feats for programs that do not recruit at the same level as Oklahoma. The performance of the QB would be worth keeping an eye on as that QB is the first non-transfer QB to start for TCU since the departure of previous co-offensive coordinator Doug Meacham.

Texas - Better. Assuming that the defense should again be at a top 10 or 25 level depending on how it is gauged, the question is whether the offense can finally be cohesive and competitive enough to score on Big 12 conference defenses. More experience with Herman's system should improve the team on that front regardless, but taking that cohesiveness to the next level will be contingent on determining who will effectively call offensive plays and whether the addition of Herb Hand will have a positive effect on the OL.

West Virginia - Better. The combination of the return of both the possibly the best QB in college football and their #1 WR along with their mountain of transfers should have them fielding their best team since they joined the Big 12. Because of the arguable over reliance on transfers and what happened in 2017, the question for WVU is whether they could withstand injuries to players in certain positions and still be able to field a competitive team.

Iowa State - Push. They experienced a few notable losses of players from 2017, but the return of their QB along the entering into year 3 of Campbell's system should continue to have them playing at competitive level. Given what Campbell was able to do in year 2 and how he was able to do it, it seems likely that he will continue to find a way to both put the best players on the field and put those players in the best positions in order for ISU to succeed even if those positions are not the ones that they signed with ISU to play.

Kansas State - Push. Kansas State lost both of its coordinators in the offseason and lost some of its best players on defense, but it Snyder is still coaching and they have solid QB and other offensive depth with experience, and, for Snyder, this would be a push given his history of doing more with less.

Kansas - Push. Everyone knows what this is.

Tech Tech - Better. They should have the most experienced defense in the Big 12, and that is cause for optimism given both their improvement from 2016 to 2017 on defense (124 to 88 according to defensive S&P+) and the media selection of 3 Tech players on the defensive side of the ball in the preseason all Big-12 team. A similar defensive improvement from 2017 to 2018 should have them playing at an competitive level on that side of the ball, but the question is whether Kingsbury can continue his run of good offenses given his limited returning production on offense.

As this moment in time, it looks like 3 betters, 5 pushes, and 1 worse, but, of course, that could always change once the games start and there are results to examine.

Dia del DougO
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I'm just worrying about Baylor getting better. Baylor needs to be able to compete in the league they play in, and it needs to start happening soon.

Put it on paper.
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Mr Tulip
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I'm picking 6-6

I'm actually spitballing 3-9 or 4-8. However, 2-10 means absolutely nothing improved (swap Liberty/ACU as a statistical outlier). 6-6 would mean that the OL got it together and provided consistent run threat/pass protection throughout the season. While hopeful, it's more likely they'll show competence but not consistency - thus the 3-4 win prognostication. 2-10 would mean they're still a babyshambles. Between the two unlikely options of season long consistency or unmitigated ineptitude, the "consistent" option is more likely.
Squatch Hunter
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I feel like I am back in the Guy Morriss era. Most seasons ended badly but by the end of the following summer, I was running possible scenarios through my head that gave me hope for the upcoming season. If we can start 4-0, I believe we have a shot at 6, with 5 being most likely (spring an upset on Tech in Dallas).
BillDauterive
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6-6


2-10 means we've lost to at least one of ACU, UTSA, and Kansas. Rhule better not sniff a year 3 with that result.
KOKQB70
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6-6.
Bigtexasmike
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1 and 11 and this is rhules last season at BU

Ppl mocked trumps chances...
Up up down down LR LR BA select start
Timbear
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We've got some great young men playing for Baylor. I'm really pulling for them.
Stranger
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2-10 might be optimistic. Do we get to play Ian McCaw's Liberty Flames again?

Little Matty will never see season three at Baylor. He'll either get canned or move along to greener pastures.
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LTbear
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Stranger said:



Little Matty will never see season three at Baylor. He'll either get canned or move along to greener pastures.


Let's bet on that. You pick the price.
la1037
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I fail to understand the point of the OPs question. I assume there is an agenda behind it? 2 wins should get us a new coach. 6 wins is a pipe dream.
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la1037 said:

I fail to understand the point of the OPs question. I assume there is an agenda behind it? 2 wins should get us a new coach. 6 wins is a pipe dream.
Coach predicted 6. As for the 2, not sure. 1 better? I think 4 or 5, but will confirm and say 6 because 2 is too low.
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A. 2-10. (i think we actually get 3 wins but we are closer to A than B)
chorne68
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I say 6-6...I say 7-5 before 2-10. The additions are too great and the underclassmen have gotten older and stronger.
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