Pretty impressive where we still stand in this metric given the last 2 years.

In the CFN Five-Year Program Analysis, an Elite Win is a victory over an FBS team that finished with two losses or fewer, or on the road or in a bowl game against a team that lost three games. An extra 0.5 is added on to the Elite Win score when a team comes up with a road victory over a team that finished with two losses or fewer.

As you'll notice, it's really, really hard to get a win over a great team that's why they're Elite Wins.

These are the only FBS schools that have 5 or more "elite" wins in the last 5 years:

Ohio St 12
Clemson 10
Oklahoma 10
Bama 8.5
Michigan St 8
FSU 6.5
UH 5.5
Oregon 5
Baylor 5
UCF 5

(Should have been MSU with 7 and BU with 6....it still stings)

boognish_bear said:

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Pretty impressive where we still stand in this metric given the last 2 years.

In the CFN Five-Year Program Analysis, an Elite Win is a victory over an FBS team that finished with two losses or fewer, or on the road or in a bowl game against a team that lost three games. An extra 0.5 is added on to the Elite Win score when a team comes up with a road victory over a team that finished with two losses or fewer.

As you'll notice, it's really, really hard to get a win over a great team that's why they're Elite Wins.

These are the only FBS schools that have 5 or more "elite" wins in the last 5 years:

Ohio St 12
Clemson 10
Oklahoma 10
Bama 8.5
Michigan St 8
FSU 6.5
UH 5.5
Oregon 5
Baylor 5
UCF 5

(Should have been MSU with 7 and BU with 6....it still stings)

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No way. Can't be. Bad defense, score a lot of points, 2 Big 12 Championships, bowl games, crappy non-con schedule. No Way. Just NO WAY! We haven't been that good. But yes Michigan St still stings. Then again we did O.K. for Scrubby Baylor.

CHP Bear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Pretty impressive where we still stand in this metric given the last 2 years.

In the CFN Five-Year Program Analysis, an Elite Win is a victory over an FBS team that finished with two losses or fewer, or on the road or in a bowl game against a team that lost three games. An extra 0.5 is added on to the Elite Win score when a team comes up with a road victory over a team that finished with two losses or fewer.

As you'll notice, it's really, really hard to get a win over a great team that's why they're Elite Wins.

These are the only FBS schools that have 5 or more "elite" wins in the last 5 years:

Ohio St 12
Clemson 10
Oklahoma 10
Bama 8.5
Michigan St 8
FSU 6.5
UH 5.5
Oregon 5
Baylor 5
UCF 5

(Should have been MSU with 7 and BU with 6....it still stings)

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No way. Can't be. Bad defense, score a lot of points, 2 Big 12 Championships, bowl games, crappy non-con schedule. No Way. Just NO WAY! We haven't been that good. But yes Michigan St still stings. Then again we did O.K. for Scrubby Baylor.

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UCF doesn't?

How many of those were last year?
I Didn't follow as close

REX said:

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How many of those were last year?
I Didn't follow as close

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They haven't ranked the "elite" losses yet

boognish_bear said:

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REX said:

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How many of those were last year?
I Didn't follow as close

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They haven't ranked the "elite" losses yet

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OU loss might count as an "elite" loss

Good times. Proves its a short walk from the castle to the outhouse.

So you're telling me Bama does not get elite wins in the SEC but rather in the playoffs? Can't be right, I'm told the SEC is full of elite teams and if a game is 6-3 it is because of elite defense and if it is 49-42 it is because of elite offense.

Given our elite wins came in the first three of those five years, it's even more impressive to consider.

Yankee Bear said:

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Given our elite wins came in the first three of those five years, it's even more impressive to consider.

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This is not accurate.

The five are:
2016 Boise State (bowl; 3 loss)
2015 UNC (bowl; 3 loss)
2015 at Oklahoma State (3 loss; away)
2014 TCU (1 loss; home)
2013 Oklahoma (2 loss; home)

One could argue that the methodology is flawed since (1) deeming a 3 loss Boise State with losses to Wyoming and Air Force and with the best win being unranked Washington State as "elite" does not really make sense if it means that 3 (if they lose away from home and not in a bowl) and 4 loss P5 teams with more difficult schedules would be excluded and (2) wins over 3 loss teams at home are arbitrarily excluded since wins over teams with the same record are included if those wins are away or in a bowl.

boognish_bear said:

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Pretty impressive where we still stand in this metric given the last 2 years.

In the CFN Five-Year Program Analysis, an Elite Win is a victory over an FBS team that finished with two losses or fewer, or on the road or in a bowl game against a team that lost three games. An extra 0.5 is added on to the Elite Win score when a team comes up with a road victory over a team that finished with two losses or fewer.

As you'll notice, it's really, really hard to get a win over a great team that's why they're Elite Wins.

These are the only FBS schools that have 5 or more "elite" wins in the last 5 years:

Ohio St 12
Clemson 10
Oklahoma 10
Bama 8.5
Michigan St 8
FSU 6.5
UH 5.5
Oregon 5
Baylor 5
UCF 5

(Should have been MSU with 7 and BU with 6....it still stings)

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Should be Baylor with 8, had no biz losing to either UCF or MSU.

Gruvin said:

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boognish_bear said:

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REX said:

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How many of those were last year?
I Didn't follow as close

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They haven't ranked the "elite" losses yet

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OU loss might count as an "elite" loss

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Liberty at home is an elite loss if there ever was one.

Robert Wilson said:

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Gruvin said:

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boognish_bear said:

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REX said:

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How many of those were last year?
I Didn't follow as close

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They haven't ranked the "elite" losses yet

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OU loss might count as an "elite" loss

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Liberty at home is an elite loss if there ever was one.

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You can brag about your team being 1-0 against Baylor next season after Larry Flynt's parody stabs Gil in the back.

BUBear24 said:

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CHP Bear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Pretty impressive where we still stand in this metric given the last 2 years.

In the CFN Five-Year Program Analysis, an Elite Win is a victory over an FBS team that finished with two losses or fewer, or on the road or in a bowl game against a team that lost three games. An extra 0.5 is added on to the Elite Win score when a team comes up with a road victory over a team that finished with two losses or fewer.

As you'll notice, it's really, really hard to get a win over a great team that's why they're Elite Wins.

These are the only FBS schools that have 5 or more "elite" wins in the last 5 years:

Ohio St 12
Clemson 10
Oklahoma 10
Bama 8.5
Michigan St 8
FSU 6.5
UH 5.5
Oregon 5
Baylor 5
UCF 5

(Should have been MSU with 7 and BU with 6....it still stings)

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No way. Can't be. Bad defense, score a lot of points, 2 Big 12 Championships, bowl games, crappy non-con schedule. No Way. Just NO WAY! We haven't been that good. But yes Michigan St still stings. Then again we did O.K. for Scrubby Baylor.

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UCF doesn't?

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Given the way UCF hammered us was a disappointment. Early in the game I did say ouch. Not from stings but from a bloody nose. We were ambushed by a better team. I can accept a beat down. As for Mich St we had the game in hand until some self distructing episodes. That stung. However, your point is well taken.

MilliVanilli said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Pretty impressive where we still stand in this metric given the last 2 years.

In the CFN Five-Year Program Analysis, an Elite Win is a victory over an FBS team that finished with two losses or fewer, or on the road or in a bowl game against a team that lost three games. An extra 0.5 is added on to the Elite Win score when a team comes up with a road victory over a team that finished with two losses or fewer.

As you'll notice, it's really, really hard to get a win over a great team that's why they're Elite Wins.

These are the only FBS schools that have 5 or more "elite" wins in the last 5 years:

Ohio St 12
Clemson 10
Oklahoma 10
Bama 8.5
Michigan St 8
FSU 6.5
UH 5.5
Oregon 5
Baylor 5
UCF 5

(Should have been MSU with 7 and BU with 6....it still stings)

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Should be Baylor with 8, had no biz losing to either UCF or MSU.

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Why stop there? This is the Baylor Bubble.

Let's call ALL of the patsies in 2013 and 2014 elite wins.

Wofford? Elite win!

Buffalo? Elite win!

ULM? Elite win!

SMU? Elite win!

Northwestern State? Why not? Elite win!

Buffalo again? Elite again!

If we had no business losing to UCF or Michigan State then we had no business beating Texas Tech in 2014 when a freshman put up 712 yards on us.

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CHP Bear said:

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BUBear24 said:

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CHP Bear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Pretty impressive where we still stand in this metric given the last 2 years.

In the CFN Five-Year Program Analysis, an Elite Win is a victory over an FBS team that finished with two losses or fewer, or on the road or in a bowl game against a team that lost three games. An extra 0.5 is added on to the Elite Win score when a team comes up with a road victory over a team that finished with two losses or fewer.

As you'll notice, it's really, really hard to get a win over a great team that's why they're Elite Wins.

These are the only FBS schools that have 5 or more "elite" wins in the last 5 years:

Ohio St 12
Clemson 10
Oklahoma 10
Bama 8.5
Michigan St 8
FSU 6.5
UH 5.5
Oregon 5
Baylor 5
UCF 5

(Should have been MSU with 7 and BU with 6....it still stings)

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No way. Can't be. Bad defense, score a lot of points, 2 Big 12 Championships, bowl games, crappy non-con schedule. No Way. Just NO WAY! We haven't been that good. But yes Michigan St still stings. Then again we did O.K. for Scrubby Baylor.

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UCF doesn't?

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Given the way UCF hammered us was a disappointment. Early in the game I did say ouch. Not from stings but from a bloody nose. We were ambushed by a better team. I can accept a beat down. As for Mich St we had the game in hand until some self distructing episodes. That stung. However, your point is well taken.

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UCF was a good offense and a questionable defense that Baylor bailed out with perpetual penalties. Took dominance in the trenches off the table for the Baylor run game.

UCF was not better and Baylor simply stopped themselves in a shootout. It was always gonna be a track meet but one team stoppped themselves.

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O.K. Still didn't feel the sting. However, it did take a week for the blood nose to subside.

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How many of those were last year?
I Didn't follow as close

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You are here why?

Like Tellme brought up, it is all about losing those fancy offices and prestige.
The view from the call center like cubicles is not as pretty as I-35 and the historic Brazos. I have spent more time on that property than Rex and company. I can assure you it's a big difference.

xiledinok said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Gruvin said:

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boognish_bear said:

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REX said:

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How many of those were last year?
I Didn't follow as close

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They haven't ranked the "elite" losses yet

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OU loss might count as an "elite" loss

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Liberty at home is an elite loss if there ever was one.

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You can brag about your team being 1-0 against Baylor next season after Larry Flynt's parody stabs Gil in the back.

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What the Hell does this even mean?

REX said:

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How many of those were last year?
I Didn't follow as close

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Because they are elite in basketball, the Pumpers will tell you the Kansas win counts.

Loaded4Bear said:

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xiledinok said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Gruvin said:

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boognish_bear said:

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REX said:

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How many of those were last year?
I Didn't follow as close

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They haven't ranked the "elite" losses yet

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OU loss might count as an "elite" loss

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Liberty at home is an elite loss if there ever was one.

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You can brag about your team being 1-0 against Baylor next season after Larry Flynt's parody stabs Gil in the back.

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What the Hell does this even mean?

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Took a day off and have not had my coffee yet. The parody would be Liberty. Hustler cleaned Falwell ' s clock in court in a defamation case. Falwell was a public figure and it was a parody. Falwell made the smart business move and hired Flynt's attorney. Turner Gill is the Liberty football coach. I assume this is a prediction that he is going to get a divinely inspired betrayal.

NoBSU said:

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Loaded4Bear said:

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xiledinok said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Gruvin said:

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boognish_bear said:

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REX said:

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How many of those were last year?
I Didn't follow as close

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They haven't ranked the "elite" losses yet

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OU loss might count as an "elite" loss

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Liberty at home is an elite loss if there ever was one.

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You can brag about your team being 1-0 against Baylor next season after Larry Flynt's parody stabs Gil in the back.

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What the Hell does this even mean?

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Took a day off and have not had my coffee yet. The parody would be Liberty. Hustler cleaned Falwell ' s clock in court in a defamation case. Falwell was a public figure and it was a parody. Falwell made the smart business move and hired Flynt's attorney. Turner Gill is the Liberty football coach. I assume this is a prediction that he is going to get a divinely inspired betrayal.

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Thank you NoBSU. Please stay close. Xiledinok posts a lot here. Will probably need you again later.

Loaded4Bear said:

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NoBSU said:

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Loaded4Bear said:

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xiledinok said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Gruvin said:

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boognish_bear said:

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REX said:

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How many of those were last year?
I Didn't follow as close

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They haven't ranked the "elite" losses yet

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OU loss might count as an "elite" loss

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Liberty at home is an elite loss if there ever was one.

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You can brag about your team being 1-0 against Baylor next season after Larry Flynt's parody stabs Gil in the back.

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What the Hell does this even mean?

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Took a day off and have not had my coffee yet. The parody would be Liberty. Hustler cleaned Falwell ' s clock in court in a defamation case. Falwell was a public figure and it was a parody. Falwell made the smart business move and hired Flynt's attorney. Turner Gill is the Liberty football coach. I assume this is a prediction that he is going to get a divinely inspired betrayal.

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Thank you NoBSU. Please stay close. Xiledinok posts a lot here. Will probably need you again later.

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More likely you are uneducated or don't know squat about Liberty or Falwell. It is only one of the most famous defamation cases in US history.
It is the only thing Liberty was known for before Falwell junior started handing out online degrees and rebuilding images of tv preachers.
Art is the new Jim Baker. I 'll let you figure out that one.

xiledinok said:

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Loaded4Bear said:

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NoBSU said:

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Loaded4Bear said:

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xiledinok said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Gruvin said:

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boognish_bear said:

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REX said:

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How many of those were last year?
I Didn't follow as close

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They haven't ranked the "elite" losses yet

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OU loss might count as an "elite" loss

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Liberty at home is an elite loss if there ever was one.

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You can brag about your team being 1-0 against Baylor next season after Larry Flynt's parody stabs Gil in the back.

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What the Hell does this even mean?

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Took a day off and have not had my coffee yet. The parody would be Liberty. Hustler cleaned Falwell ' s clock in court in a defamation case. Falwell was a public figure and it was a parody. Falwell made the smart business move and hired Flynt's attorney. Turner Gill is the Liberty football coach. I assume this is a prediction that he is going to get a divinely inspired betrayal.

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Thank you NoBSU. Please stay close. Xiledinok posts a lot here. Will probably need you again later.

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More likely you are uneducated or don't know squat about Liberty or Falwell. It is only one of the most famous defamation cases in US history.
It is the only thing Liberty was known for before Falwell junior started handing out online degrees and rebuilding images of tv preachers.
Art is the new Jim Baker. I 'll let you figure out that one.

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Really not necessary to demean or disparage Liberty University (nor any other school for that matter) just because we can't beat them at football.

Loaded4Bear said:

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xiledinok said:

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Loaded4Bear said:

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NoBSU said:

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Loaded4Bear said:

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xiledinok said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Gruvin said:

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boognish_bear said:

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REX said:

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How many of those were last year?
I Didn't follow as close

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They haven't ranked the "elite" losses yet

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OU loss might count as an "elite" loss

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Liberty at home is an elite loss if there ever was one.

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You can brag about your team being 1-0 against Baylor next season after Larry Flynt's parody stabs Gil in the back.

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What the Hell does this even mean?

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Took a day off and have not had my coffee yet. The parody would be Liberty. Hustler cleaned Falwell ' s clock in court in a defamation case. Falwell was a public figure and it was a parody. Falwell made the smart business move and hired Flynt's attorney. Turner Gill is the Liberty football coach. I assume this is a prediction that he is going to get a divinely inspired betrayal.

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Thank you NoBSU. Please stay close. Xiledinok posts a lot here. Will probably need you again later.

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More likely you are uneducated or don't know squat about Liberty or Falwell. It is only one of the most famous defamation cases in US history.
It is the only thing Liberty was known for before Falwell junior started handing out online degrees and rebuilding images of tv preachers.
Art is the new Jim Baker. I 'll let you figure out that one.

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Really not necessary to demean or disparage Liberty University (nor any other school for that matter) just because we can't beat them at football.

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"We"? You don't have a team. What year did you graduate from the alternative school?
I ve throw out a few things that involved Liberty and Larry Flynt and none of the Ian or Art crew caught them.
Larry Flynt sells sex oriented products at a sexually oriented business while Baby Briles sells it at a college campus And folks question why they have a stigma.

Wait. Liberty is a university? I thought we lost to Liberty Mutual Insurance Co. My bad.

Loaded4Bear said:

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xiledinok said:

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Robert Wilson said:

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Gruvin said:

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boognish_bear said:

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REX said:

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How many of those were last year?
I Didn't follow as close

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They haven't ranked the "elite" losses yet

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OU loss might count as an "elite" loss

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Liberty at home is an elite loss if there ever was one.

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You can brag about your team being 1-0 against Baylor next season after Larry Flynt's parody stabs Gil in the back.

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What the Hell does this even mean?

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No idea
We can put away talk about elite wins
This season we are sitting on the edge of our seats hoping for wins vs ACU and UTSA

Loaded, you don't know jack about Liberty other than Ian was hired by a Pharisee to run his athletic department. At least the Liberty football staff knows you cannot trust the Canadian.

Was Oklahoma 2014 considered an Elite win?

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xiledinok said:

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Loaded, you don't know jack about Liberty other than Ian was hired by a Pharisee to run his athletic department. At least the Liberty football staff knows you cannot trust the Canadian.

Was Oklahoma 2014 considered an Elite win?

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If Knight stays healthy they'd have been ranked while playing 10 P5 opponents in the regular season and narrowly losing two of their three losses to #6 and #11. Baylor dominating them was impressive.

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I was at the game. I though Monty had the best game play calling ever against Oklahoma with Stoops. Oklahoma had some talent. They did finish with 5 losses. Knight was a Palestinian rock thrower. He couldn't hit a tank.

Without looking I'd guess:

2014 TCU
2016 Boise State
2015 Oklahoma State
2014 Oklahoma
2012 Kansas State

Edit: I guess UNC? Over which one?

BearSince2010 said:

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Without looking I'd guess:

2014 TCU
2016 Boise State
2015 Oklahoma State
2014 Oklahoma
2012 Kansas State

Edit: I guess UNC? Over which one?

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TCU was #9 and we were #5 played at McLane. We should have won that one.
Boise State was unranked at the time we beat them and we were unranked. No way this is elite.
OSU was #4 and we were #10 - this could be classified as an "elite win" since it was in Stillwater
OU was #16 and we were #10 at the time. The game was in Norman, Elite win for sure although we should have won .
KSU was #2 and we were unranked at the time of this game at Floyd Casey. Huge win for the Bears.

We've seen better days...

Then the bottom fell out.