I was the first to go to college...no help from parents...worked three jobs...loved my time at BU. I cried when we beat BYU 40-36 (my first game) and cried when we lost to USC 17-14 and SMU 24-20 and loved life when we beat SMU 21-14 and Arky 24-21

I take BU sports way too seriously and personal AND I don't care. I need a support group. Anyone?

That's USC game at home sucked.......best 8-3 team I've ever seen. Criushed LSU in Liberty Bowl.....

Forgot...scared the crap out of my daughter when we beat OU 45-38...by freaking out and shedding tears

I'm right there with you. I threw an ottoman through our living room window when Bryce Petty tripped over the 5 yard line in Stillwater. It got very quiet at my house when that happened.

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That's USC game at home sucked.......best 8-3 team I've ever seen. Criushed LSU in Liberty Bowl.....

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The USC game at home was in 86, the year Baylor played in the last Bluebonnet Bowl that was moved from the Astrodome to Rice Stadium that year due to financial trouble. Baylor beat Colorado who were national champs a few years later.

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That's USC game at home sucked.......best 8-3 team I've ever seen. Criushed LSU in Liberty Bowl.....

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The USC game at home was in 86, the year Baylor played in the last Bluebonnet Bowl that was moved from the Astrodome to Rice Stadium that year due to financial trouble. Baylor beat Colorado who were national champs a few years later.

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Was at both of those games (Sophomore year at Baylor). We held Colorado under 200yds in the Bluebonnet bowl. Ray Berry had a heck of a game.

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That's USC game at home sucked.......best 8-3 team I've ever seen. Criushed LSU in Liberty Bowl.....

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The USC game at home was in 86, the year Baylor played in the last Bluebonnet Bowl that was moved from the Astrodome to Rice Stadium that year due to financial trouble. Baylor beat Colorado who were national champs a few years later.

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Was at both of those games (Sophomore year at Baylor). We held Colorado under 200yds in the Bluebonnet bowl. Ray Berry had a heck of a game.

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If that '86 team would've had a good solid power running back on it they could've well gone undefeated. All 3 losses that season (USC, SMU and A&M) were of the gut wrenching variety that could've easily gone the other way and in all 3 there were key inside the two yard line TD opportunities that were missed largely because we didn't have a "battering ram" type running back to punch it in (the one weakness of that team).

Those 85 and 86 teams both were very good teams -- better than their records indicated, and both closed with impressive bowl wins (LSU and a very good McCartney-led Colorado squad headed for national prominence).

I was a kid just over-the-moon for Baylor football during those seasons. The USC loss (last second FG with driving rain stacking up on the turf) was bad, but the A&M loss (blew a 17 point halftime lead; got jobbed on some calls) left me crying like a baby. We should've had 1 or 2 conference championships and Cotton Bowls in those seasons. But the bowl wins were still solid.

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That's USC game at home sucked.......best 8-3 team I've ever seen. Criushed LSU in Liberty Bowl.....

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The USC game at home was in 86, the year Baylor played in the last Bluebonnet Bowl that was moved from the Astrodome to Rice Stadium that year due to financial trouble. Baylor beat Colorado who were national champs a few years later.

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Was at both of those games (Sophomore year at Baylor). We held Colorado under 200yds in the Bluebonnet bowl. Ray Berry had a heck of a game.

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If that '86 team would've had a good solid power running back on it they could've well gone undefeated. All 3 losses that season (USC, SMU and A&M) were of the gut wrenching variety that could've easily gone the other way and in all 3 there were key inside the two yard line TD opportunities that were missed largely because we didn't have a "battering ram" type running back to punch it in (the one weakness of that team).

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I remember at the end of the first half against USC, we were about to punch in a short TD run to take command of the game. USC I believe had one first down the entire first half. Unfortunately, our RB fumbled the ball in the air directly to a USC defensive player who ran 99 yards for the score. I have never forgotten that play and how a defense can be utterly dominating the other team and still lose the game.

I loved Teaff, but he got a lot of heat for being overly conservative on offense in those years. It seemed we would move the ball at will between the 30s and just go conservative near the red zone. The defenses were a sight to behold.

I was at the USC and A&M games. Never in a million years did I think the SC place kicker would make the kick. That really hurt but at least we lost fair and square. The Aggie loss was a different story. I knew before the game that we had better blow them out or the refs would find a way to give them a break on questionable plays. We had the lead and let it get away. Once they hit the break it was all over. We lost our composure which cost us the game.

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That's USC game at home sucked.......best 8-3 team I've ever seen. Criushed LSU in Liberty Bowl.....

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The USC game at home was in 86, the year Baylor played in the last Bluebonnet Bowl that was moved from the Astrodome to Rice Stadium that year due to financial trouble. Baylor beat Colorado who were national champs a few years later.

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Was at both of those games (Sophomore year at Baylor). We held Colorado under 200yds in the Bluebonnet bowl. Ray Berry had a heck of a game.

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If that '86 team would've had a good solid power running back on it they could've well gone undefeated. All 3 losses that season (USC, SMU and A&M) were of the gut wrenching variety that could've easily gone the other way and in all 3 there were key inside the two yard line TD opportunities that were missed largely because we didn't have a "battering ram" type running back to punch it in (the one weakness of that team).

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I remember at the end of the first half against USC, we were about to punch in a short TD run to take command of the game. USC I believe had one first down the entire first half. Unfortunately, our RB fumbled the ball in the air directly to a USC defensive player who ran 99 yards for the score. I have never forgotten that play and how a defense can be utterly dominating the other team and still lose the game.

I loved Teaff, but he got a lot of heat for being overly conservative on offense in those years. It seemed we would move the ball at will between the 30s and just go conservative near the red zone. The defenses were a sight to behold.

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That was a huge 14 point swing just before the half after what as I recall was a 90+ yard drive that ended in that length of the field fumble return for a USC touchdown. Went into half tied at 7-7 instead of BU up 14-0, and with the way our defense was killing them that would've felt more like a 4 touchdown lead normally does to both teams.

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I was the first to go to college...no help from parents...worked three jobs...loved my time at BU. I cried when we beat BYU 40-36 (my first game) and cried when we lost to USC 17-14 and SMU 24-20 and loved life when we beat SMU 21-14 and Arky 24-21

I take BU sports way too seriously and personal AND I don't care. I need a support group. Anyone?

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Good to hear of your fanatic devotion to our team! One question, though: if you dont care that you take it too seriously, why are you requesting a support group?

My name is BUBearinARK, and I am a BU sportsaholic.

the 1991 home loss to rice by the then #8 Bears still stings

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That's USC game at home sucked.......best 8-3 team I've ever seen. Criushed LSU in Liberty Bowl.....

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The USC game at home was in 86, the year Baylor played in the last Bluebonnet Bowl that was moved from the Astrodome to Rice Stadium that year due to financial trouble. Baylor beat Colorado who were national champs a few years later.

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Was at both of those games (Sophomore year at Baylor). We held Colorado under 200yds in the Bluebonnet bowl. Ray Berry had a heck of a game.

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If that '86 team would've had a good solid power running back on it they could've well gone undefeated. All 3 losses that season (USC, SMU and A&M) were of the gut wrenching variety that could've easily gone the other way and in all 3 there were key inside the two yard line TD opportunities that were missed largely because we didn't have a "battering ram" type running back to punch it in (the one weakness of that team).

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I remember at the end of the first half against USC, we were about to punch in a short TD run to take command of the game. USC I believe had one first down the entire first half. Unfortunately, our RB fumbled the ball in the air directly to a USC defensive player who ran 99 yards for the score. I have never forgotten that play and how a defense can be utterly dominating the other team and still lose the game.

I loved Teaff, but he got a lot of heat for being overly conservative on offense in those years. It seemed we would move the ball at will between the 30s and just go conservative near the red zone. The defenses were a sight to behold.

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If I recall that was the game difference. The real freakish thing is that the same occurrence would happen 2 more times in the future after that. It occurred against Tech, in 91 I believe, and then the infamous UNLV game.

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My name is BUBearinARK, and I am a BU sportsaholic.

the 1991 home loss to rice by the then #8 Bears still stings

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The next game loss to A&M in Waco was also really sucky.

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I was the first to go to college...no help from parents...worked three jobs...loved my time at BU. I cried when we beat BYU 40-36 (my first game) and cried when we lost to USC 17-14 and SMU 24-20 and loved life when we beat SMU 21-14 and Arky 24-21

I take BU sports way too seriously and personal AND I don't care. I need a support group. Anyone?

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Good to hear of your fanatic devotion to our team! One question, though: if you dont care that you take it too seriously, why are you requesting a support group?

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Wife says I do.

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That's USC game at home sucked.......best 8-3 team I've ever seen. Criushed LSU in Liberty Bowl.....

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Yep. That long fumble return td killed us.

Wasn't LSU top 10 in game?

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BUbearinARK said:

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My name is BUBearinARK, and I am a BU sportsaholic.

the 1991 home loss to rice by the then #8 Bears still stings

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The next game loss to A&M in Waco was also really sucky.

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I was at the anm debacle. Got our asses kicked

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That's USC game at home sucked.......best 8-3 team I've ever seen. Criushed LSU in Liberty Bowl.....

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Yep. That long fumble return td killed us.

Wasn't LSU top 10 in game?

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I think they were, maybe #8 or somesuch. Still remember the announcers being shocked at the a** kicking we were delivering them.

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That's USC game at home sucked.......best 8-3 team I've ever seen. Criushed LSU in Liberty Bowl.....

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The USC game at home was in 86, the year Baylor played in the last Bluebonnet Bowl that was moved from the Astrodome to Rice Stadium that year due to financial trouble. Baylor beat Colorado who were national champs a few years later.

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Was at both of those games (Sophomore year at Baylor). We held Colorado under 200yds in the Bluebonnet bowl. Ray Berry had a heck of a game.

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If that '86 team would've had a good solid power running back on it they could've well gone undefeated. All 3 losses that season (USC, SMU and A&M) were of the gut wrenching variety that could've easily gone the other way and in all 3 there were key inside the two yard line TD opportunities that were missed largely because we didn't have a "battering ram" type running back to punch it in (the one weakness of that team).

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I remember at the end of the first half against USC, we were about to punch in a short TD run to take command of the game. USC I believe had one first down the entire first half. Unfortunately, our RB fumbled the ball in the air directly to a USC defensive player who ran 99 yards for the score. I have never forgotten that play and how a defense can be utterly dominating the other team and still lose the game.

I loved Teaff, but he got a lot of heat for being overly conservative on offense in those years. It seemed we would move the ball at will between the 30s and just go conservative near the red zone. The defenses were a sight to behold.

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If I recall that was the game difference. The real freakish thing is that the same occurrence would happen 2 more times in the future after that. It occurred against Tech, in 91 I believe, and then the infamous UNLV game.

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That Tech one was freaky as well and cost us that game.

The UNLV issue was self inflicted.

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That's USC game at home sucked.......best 8-3 team I've ever seen. Criushed LSU in Liberty Bowl.....

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The USC game at home was in 86, the year Baylor played in the last Bluebonnet Bowl that was moved from the Astrodome to Rice Stadium that year due to financial trouble. Baylor beat Colorado who were national champs a few years later.

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Was at both of those games (Sophomore year at Baylor). We held Colorado under 200yds in the Bluebonnet bowl. Ray Berry had a heck of a game.

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If that '86 team would've had a good solid power running back on it they could've well gone undefeated. All 3 losses that season (USC, SMU and A&M) were of the gut wrenching variety that could've easily gone the other way and in all 3 there were key inside the two yard line TD opportunities that were missed largely because we didn't have a "battering ram" type running back to punch it in (the one weakness of that team).

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I remember at the end of the first half against USC, we were about to punch in a short TD run to take command of the game. USC I believe had one first down the entire first half. Unfortunately, our RB fumbled the ball in the air directly to a USC defensive player who ran 99 yards for the score. I have never forgotten that play and how a defense can be utterly dominating the other team and still lose the game.

I loved Teaff, but he got a lot of heat for being overly conservative on offense in those years. It seemed we would move the ball at will between the 30s and just go conservative near the red zone. The defenses were a sight to behold.

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The USC player was no slouch......That was Tim MacDonald that caught it and ran it back....

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I remember at the end of the first half against USC, we were about to punch in a short TD run to take command of the game. USC I believe had one first down the entire first half. Unfortunately, our RB fumbled the ball in the air directly to a USC defensive player who ran 99 yards for the score. I have never forgotten that play and how a defense can be utterly dominating the other team and still lose the game.

I loved Teaff, but he got a lot of heat for being overly conservative on offense in those years. It seemed we would move the ball at will between the 30s and just go conservative near the red zone. The defenses were a sight to behold.

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I was there in Baylor Stadium, too, and that play happened right in front of me.

I was so excited that we were taking down Southern Cal . . . but then . . .

Some think Baylor's low point was years later when a game-ending 99-yard fumble return cost us a win over UNLV. But that USC score was a bigger heart-breaker to me.

PS--In defense of Teaff, I recall his using lots of goal-line leaps, fakes and wizardry by Alfred Anderson and Allen Rice. They were wonderful to behold.

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That's USC game at home sucked.......best 8-3 team I've ever seen. Criushed LSU in Liberty Bowl.....

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The USC game at home was in 86, the year Baylor played in the last Bluebonnet Bowl that was moved from the Astrodome to Rice Stadium that year due to financial trouble. Baylor beat Colorado who were national champs a few years later.

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Was at both of those games (Sophomore year at Baylor). We held Colorado under 200yds in the Bluebonnet bowl. Ray Berry had a heck of a game.

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If that '86 team would've had a good solid power running back on it they could've well gone undefeated. All 3 losses that season (USC, SMU and A&M) were of the gut wrenching variety that could've easily gone the other way and in all 3 there were key inside the two yard line TD opportunities that were missed largely because we didn't have a "battering ram" type running back to punch it in (the one weakness of that team).

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I remember at the end of the first half against USC, we were about to punch in a short TD run to take command of the game. USC I believe had one first down the entire first half. Unfortunately, our RB fumbled the ball in the air directly to a USC defensive player who ran 99 yards for the score. I have never forgotten that play and how a defense can be utterly dominating the other team and still lose the game.

I loved Teaff, but he got a lot of heat for being overly conservative on offense in those years. It seemed we would move the ball at will between the 30s and just go conservative near the red zone. The defenses were a sight to behold.

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That was a huge 14 point swing just before the half after what as I recall was a 90+ yard drive that ended in that length of the field fumble return for a USC touchdown. Went into half tied at 7-7 instead of BU up 14-0, and with the way our defense was killing them that would've felt more like a 4 touchdown lead normally does to both teams.

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The Bears gained 408 net yards to only 197 for the Trojans and led in first downs, 26-11. In possession time, Baylor held the ball for 37 minutes 47 seconds to USC's 22 minutes 13 seconds.

USC didn't have 100 net yards at the end of the 3rd quarter. I seem to recall the D going from man to man thru the 3rd quarter shutting USC's passing game down to zone in the 4th with Rodney Peete taking advantage.

BTW, I attended every game home and away in 1986 including the Bluebonnet Bowl. The only year I've been able to accomplish that feat.

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I remember at the end of the first half against USC, we were about to punch in a short TD run to take command of the game. USC I believe had one first down the entire first half. Unfortunately, our RB fumbled the ball in the air directly to a USC defensive player who ran 99 yards for the score. I have never forgotten that play and how a defense can be utterly dominating the other team and still lose the game.

I loved Teaff, but he got a lot of heat for being overly conservative on offense in those years. It seemed we would move the ball at will between the 30s and just go conservative near the red zone. The defenses were a sight to behold.

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PS--In defense of Teaff, I recall his using lots of goal-line leaps, fakes and wizardry by Alfred Anderson and Allen Rice. They were wonderful to behold.

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And later, JJ Joe. I remember one very exciting home win against GA Tech in 1992 (?) where he would fake a handoff, and drop back, hiding the ball behind his back. The GA Tech defense had no idea where the ball was. Easy TD.

Those 85 and 86 teams were as good as anyone in the country. It's disgusting that some of those excruciating losses were to cheating A&M and SMU teams.

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I'm right there with you. I threw an ottoman through our living room window when Bryce Petty tripped over the 5 yard line in Stillwater. It got very quiet at my house when that happened.

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Wait, what? I'm dying over here. Please tell me this happened for real...

I felt that pain though. I still feel that pain.

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Wineguy89 said:

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That's USC game at home sucked.......best 8-3 team I've ever seen. Criushed LSU in Liberty Bowl.....

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Yep. That long fumble return td killed us.

Wasn't LSU top 10 in game?

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Possibly - but I seem to remember that being a pretty average LSU team. I think their only score was on a punt or kickoff return.

I stand corrected - LSU was 9-1-1 and ranked #10 in the AP

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I'm right there with you. I threw an ottoman through our living room window when Bryce Petty tripped over the 5 yard line in Stillwater. It got very quiet at my house when that happened.

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Wait, what? I'm dying over here. Please tell me this happened for real...

I felt that pain though. I still feel that pain.

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Oh, it happened. The way I know I didn't dream it is my wife and kids talk about it every season while watching the first road game.

My defense is I wasn't trying to "throw" it. I was "moving it out of the way" and it slipped.

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I stand corrected - LSU was 9-1-1 and ranked #10 in the AP

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Yep
They were far from average
1 win from winning SEC and going to the sugar bowl
2 high round draft picks at RB. All American center, LB.
You had to have a great resume to get a bowl game back then. Only 20 bowls

In the 86 USC game their receiver ran out of bounds at the back of the end zone and came back in and caught a TD pass right in front of Ron Francis. No refs apparently saw it?

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I was the first to go to college...no help from parents...worked three jobs...loved my time at BU. I cried when we beat BYU 40-36 (my first game) and cried when we lost to USC 17-14 and SMU 24-20 and loved life when we beat SMU 21-14 and Arky 24-21

I take BU sports way too seriously and personal AND I don't care. I need a support group. Anyone?

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We are twins.

If I recall correctly, near the end of this game against USC one of the biggest thunderstorms ever during a Baylor game blew through. In today's wussy mentality for football games, the game would have been cancelled because the threat of water might damage people's smartphones.

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My name is BUBearinARK, and I am a BU sportsaholic.

the 1991 home loss to rice by the then #8 Bears still stings

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Your right about that. My dad, may he rest in peace, always said "that damn Rice and TCU can always stink up a Baylor season". Man was he right!