mj4cy
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#7 Today at 6:25 AM
Baylor is the opposite of ISU on the luck stick this year. We are 4 plays from 9-0. They found a kicking miracle against us, got lucky as hell against Tech and should have lost to TCU.


This post I found is why they hate us right now. We are a good team and flame me if you want but we have had a nice dose of fortune to be 9-0. As a Baylor fan it would aggravate me if any other Big 12 team was 9-0 being as fortunate as we have been. Part of what makes this so fun.

JohnProctor said:

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mj4cy
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#7 Today at 6:25 AM
Baylor is the opposite of ISU on the luck stick this year. We are 4 plays from 9-0. They found a kicking miracle against us, got lucky as hell against Tech and should have lost to TCU.


This post I found is why they hate us right now. We are a good team and flame me if you want but we have had a nice dose of fortune to be 9-0. As a Baylor fan it would aggravate me if any other Big 12 team was 9-0 being as fortunate as we have been. Part of what makes this so fun.

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What you call fortune, I call grit.

I don't give a **** what any ISU fans think. They're terrible and have done nothing for the B12.

I honestly don't even think about them.

Maybe Iowa State can explain why THEY are #6 on the list of schools with the most athletes arrested for committing RAPE.

Obviously Oklahoma and Texas are both on the list.

TCU gets the honor of having the most athletes arrested for RAPE in the private school category.

Meanwhile.....Baylor is way at the bottom of the list.

https://www.outkickthecoverage.com/the-most-arrested-college-football-teams-in-america-081815/

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JohnProctor said:

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mj4cy
Asst. Regional Manager
Staff Member
#7 Today at 6:25 AM
Baylor is the opposite of ISU on the luck stick this year. We are 4 plays from 9-0. They found a kicking miracle against us, got lucky as hell against Tech and should have lost to TCU.


This post I found is why they hate us right now. We are a good team and flame me if you want but we have had a nice dose of fortune to be 9-0. As a Baylor fan it would aggravate me if any other Big 12 team was 9-0 being as fortunate as we have been. Part of what makes this so fun.

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What you call fortune, I call grit.

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We have grit for sure but the non fumble fumble against Tech had nothing to do with grit. Be man enough to admit luck when you get it. We certainly have had our bad luck in the past.

Like Tech, TCU and Aggie, they have bought into the Baylor defends and commits rape talking point. Kind of irritating and just ugly but they have fully bought in that we are the devil.

Easier to make our better program into a cheating, evil boogeyman.

I'm glad we played them when we did. I wouldn't want to play them now.

1. Lot of wisdom here plumbing the depths of the collective Iowa State psyche. Several of the theories ring true.

2. One more theory: There is increased emphasis on their never better than 8 wins football team because they are no longer elite in wrestling!

3. Finally, I'm just going to say it at the risk of offending a few Bears------ I can't take seriously any fan base that almost universally considers Bud Light to actually be beer.

Wanting everyone to like you is a sickness. Embrace the hate! You'll feel better.

It's amusing to see a fan base give so much energy to us, when I don't m think about ISU other than 3 days a year (1 more if we play them in the B12 bb tourney). There is no school that is more irrelevant to the B12 than ISU. Even when we were struggling, at least we are in TX. ISU has nothing going for it, even when they have record-setting years and manage to win 8 games in football or manage to put together a decent basketball season and make the Sweet 16 once every 10 years or so, they still live in the most irrelevant state in the US. And yes, I know because of politics Iowa has become a major corn producer for the country, but let's not act like there is anything unique about a state that is flat and ugly that lends itself to being able to produce a crop that can grow almost anywhere. If it wasn't for government intervention and politics, Iowa would be as worthless in actuality as it is already in everyone's collective thoughts.

We surpassed mediocre. As the Smiths said "We hate it when our friends become successful."

Mitch Henessey said:

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Flood Aggy is very entitled for a program that has won more than 8 games once since 1906.

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This shook me. I double checked it's accuracy. It's true.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/iowa-state/

Jacques Strap said:

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70-7

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71-7.
But who's counting?

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It's amusing to see a fan base give so much energy to us, when I don't m think about ISU other than 3 days a year (1 more if we play them in the B12 bb tourney). There is no school that is more irrelevant to the B12 than ISU. Even when we were struggling, at least we are in TX. ISU has nothing going for it, even when they have record-setting years and manage to win 8 games in football or manage to put together a decent basketball season and make the Sweet 16 once every 10 years or so, they still live in the most irrelevant state in the US. And yes, I know because of politics Iowa has become a major corn producer for the country, but let's not act like there is anything unique about a state that is flat and ugly that lends itself to being able to produce a crop that can grow almost anywhere. If it wasn't for government intervention and politics, Iowa would be as worthless in actuality as it is already in everyone's collective thoughts.

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Dude, are you ok?

At least some of the replies here on the second page get to the answer to the op. They really don't like us for the same reason the entire nation does not. Rape, and the perception created by our school regents, that our football program tried to cover up rape for a decade. Add in the Bliss scandal, and there you go.

They wouldn't like us without those things, because we beat them, but many big 12 schools are mad we rebounded so quickly. They were happy when we self destructed, but they (also me) thought it would be a long, long time before we were relevant again.

We just have to accept the hate for the winning, and be sincere in our wish for justice in all these cases where women were assaulted.

If I was an opposing fan, coming to this board, I'd get the impression that some posters want to sweep the rape under the rug, and are cheering for "not guilty" verdicts more than justice.

What? Iowa state has always hated Baylor. We were the two battling for the bottom of the conference and when BU rose above them they couldn't stand it.

It has been my opinion for a few years that their fans are worse than TCU. Iowa State home games...where they go for a family reunion. After all, they are all related.

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Most of their students and alumni are clueless about Baylor's history prior to the big 12. They just think of us as a backwards, little Baptist school that has no business being relevant in athletics. Oh and add being upper-Midwest liberals to the mix and I get the hate.

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Have to disagree. The second year of the Big XII ISU stormed the field after beating BU.

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Really?! I don't believe you.

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Here is an article that references tearing down both goal posts.

Student Body Storms Field

AMES, Iowa - Darren Davis ran for two touchdowns and a career-high 247 yards as Iowa State broke a 13-game losing streak with a 24-17 win over Big 12 Conference rival Baylor.

The Cyclones victory, their first since a 45-31 win over Missouri in the fourth game of last season, drove the student body to storm the field and tear down both goalposts.

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What? Iowa state has always hated Baylor. We were the two battling for the bottom of the conference and when BU rose above them they couldn't stand it.

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No. Their fans generally were ok with Baylor a few years ago, ofc you always have salty fans. Many only hate us because of the rape scandal, otherwise we don't cross their mind too often.

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At least some of the replies here on the second page get to the answer to the op. They really don't like us for the same reason the entire nation does not. Rape, and the perception created by our school regents, that our football program tried to cover up rape for a decade. Add in the Bliss scandal, and there you go.

They wouldn't like us without those things, because we beat them, but many big 12 schools are mad we rebounded so quickly. They were happy when we self destructed, but they (also me) thought it would be a long, long time before we were relevant again.

We just have to accept the hate for the winning, and be sincere in our wish for justice in all these cases where women were assaulted.

If I was an opposing fan, coming to this board, I'd get the impression that some posters want to sweep the rape under the rug, and are cheering for "not guilty" verdicts more than justice.

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Keep in mind "Not guilty" verdicts are nothing but justice for those "not guilty". And after reading this post I get the impression you care more about convictions than facts.

Also, like most here, I want justice for the innocent and guilty. But sorry, I call BS if Football fans on football boards claim some sort of moral high ground outrage after their team loses to Baylor and their school has as many assaults or more than ours. Its basic simple sports frustration... not some moral superiority. If someone hated us in a non-sports forum... then maybe I would buy your take.

clones are Iowa aggy. Hence, they are mental. Plus they hated us even more since Terrance Ganaway ran all over them one night at Floyd Casey. Corn aggy was helpless against Ganaway's onslaught.

GrowlTowel said:

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BellCountyBear said:

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GrowlTowel said:

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BellCountyBear said:

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Most of their students and alumni are clueless about Baylor's history prior to the big 12. They just think of us as a backwards, little Baptist school that has no business being relevant in athletics. Oh and add being upper-Midwest liberals to the mix and I get the hate.

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Have to disagree. The second year of the Big XII ISU stormed the field after beating BU.

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Really?! I don't believe you.

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Here is an article that references tearing down both goal posts.

Student Body Storms Field

AMES, Iowa - Darren Davis ran for two touchdowns and a career-high 247 yards as Iowa State broke a 13-game losing streak with a 24-17 win over Big 12 Conference rival Baylor.

The Cyclones victory, their first since a 45-31 win over Missouri in the fourth game of last season, drove the student body to storm the field and tear down both goalposts.

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Ok, good research. But that still has more to do with their overall losing streak than anything related to Baylor.

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It's amusing to see a fan base give so much energy to us, when I don't m think about ISU other than 3 days a year (1 more if we play them in the B12 bb tourney). There is no school that is more irrelevant to the B12 than ISU. Even when we were struggling, at least we are in TX. ISU has nothing going for it, even when they have record-setting years and manage to win 8 games in football or manage to put together a decent basketball season and make the Sweet 16 once every 10 years or so, they still live in the most irrelevant state in the US. And yes, I know because of politics Iowa has become a major corn producer for the country, but let's not act like there is anything unique about a state that is flat and ugly that lends itself to being able to produce a crop that can grow almost anywhere. If it wasn't for government intervention and politics, Iowa would be as worthless in actuality as it is already in everyone's collective thoughts.

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Dude, are you ok?

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I'm great, I'm not filled with hate like they are, I'm filled with indifference. Are you ok? Are you concerned about their fans and their obsession with us?

BellCountyBear said:

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Most of their students and alumni are clueless about Baylor's history prior to the big 12. They just think of us as a backwards, little Baptist school that has no business being relevant in athletics. Oh and add being upper-Midwest liberals to the mix and I get the hate.

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Yep pretty good version of it.

They think for some pre-ordained reason they should just be "better" than us.

Not sure where this thinking comes from but it causes them to be jealous.

And in a small way we do make it easy to hate us.....our school leaders/regents do come off has fake Christian hypocrites and it bleeds into feelings toward our fan base.

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Porteroso said:

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At least some of the replies here on the second page get to the answer to the op. They really don't like us for the same reason the entire nation does not. Rape, and the perception created by our school regents, that our football program tried to cover up rape for a decade. Add in the Bliss scandal, and there you go.

They wouldn't like us without those things, because we beat them, but many big 12 schools are mad we rebounded so quickly. They were happy when we self destructed, but they (also me) thought it would be a long, long time before we were relevant again.

We just have to accept the hate for the winning, and be sincere in our wish for justice in all these cases where women were assaulted.

If I was an opposing fan, coming to this board, I'd get the impression that some posters want to sweep the rape under the rug, and are cheering for "not guilty" verdicts more than justice.

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Keep in mind "Not guilty" verdicts are nothing but justice for those "not guilty". And after reading this post I get the impression you care more about convictions than facts.

Also, like most here, I want justice for the innocent and guilty. But sorry, I call BS if Football fans on football boards claim some sort of moral high ground outrage after their team loses to Baylor and their school has as many assaults or more than ours. Its basic simple sports frustration... not some moral superiority. If someone hated us in a non-sports forum... then maybe I would buy your take.

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You're making stuff up in your head that I didn't write. I care about justice, which is why I said I care about justice. Please chill some. Other schools get to have moral high ground, our regents basically told the world that we had a football program covering up sexual assault for a decade plus. All colleges have a problem with rape, but Baylor is one of the only ones to be covering it up, according to our regents. Easy peasy to take the moral high road compared to that.

If you don't know about non-sports people hating Baylor at this point, I don't even know.

Why is it whenever a good team plays a close game, so many people say "they should have lost", instead of "they could have lost"?

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It is that the we are winning and have generally this entire decade. I ran the numbers the other night. We have won about 65% of our games this decade thus far are and there are only a few games left to play this decade. I didn't check anyone else's numbers but that may be second best in the XII his decade. Our winning pct this decade may be higher than Texas. I'm not sure however about that. As I'm typing this I forgot that TCU feasted on cream puffs in 10-12 so they are up their as well.

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OVERALL RECORD THIS DECADE (Current & former Big 12 members)
1. Oklahoma 105-24 (.814)
2. Oklahoma State 91-35 (.722)
3. TCU 86-40 (.683)
4. Texas A&M 82-44 (.651)
5. Baylor 81-44 (.648)
6. Kansas State 79-46 (.632)
7. Missouri 75-50 (.600)
8. West Virginia 73-51 (.589)
9. Nebraska 74-52 (.587)
10. Texas 69-55 (.556)
11. Texas Tech 60-62 (.492)
12. Iowa State 49-72 (.405)
13. Colorado 43-79 (.352)
14. Kansas 21-96 (.179)

Texasjeremy said:

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PartyBear said:

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It is that the we are winning and have generally this entire decade. I ran the numbers the other night. We have won about 65% of our games this decade thus far are and there are only a few games left to play this decade. I didn't check anyone else's numbers but that may be second best in the XII his decade. Our winning pct this decade may be higher than Texas. I'm not sure however about that. As I'm typing this I forgot that TCU feasted on cream puffs in 10-12 so they are up their as well.

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OVERALL RECORD THIS DECADE (Current & former Big 12 members)
1. Oklahoma 105-24 (.814)
2. Oklahoma State 91-35 (.722)
3. TCU 86-40 (.683)
4. Texas A&M 82-44 (.651)
5. Baylor 81-44 (.648)
6. Kansas State 79-46 (.632)
7. Missouri 75-50 (.600)
8. West Virginia 73-51 (.589)
9. Nebraska 74-52 (.587)
10. Texas 69-55 (.556)
11. Texas Tech 60-62 (.492)
12. Iowa State 49-72 (.405)
13. Colorado 43-79 (.352)
14. Kansas 21-96 (.179)

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and that includes 3 years of: 7-6, 1-11, 7-6.

Porteroso said:

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EK bear said:

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What? Iowa state has always hated Baylor. We were the two battling for the bottom of the conference and when BU rose above them they couldn't stand it.

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No. Their fans generally were ok with Baylor a few years ago, ofc you always have salty fans. Many only hate us because of the rape scandal, otherwise we don't cross their mind too often.

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Way off base.

Their hate for us is nothing new. We used to beat the daylights out of them when we were in the SWC and played them non conference before the Big 12. ISU is one of the all time doormats in college football and their semi recent "not sucking" has gotten to their heads a bit. This is also definitely not just a football thing...

ISU likes basketball. A lot. They like womens basketball. A lot. Baylor has crushed their hopes and dreams in those two sports more times than many on here remember - dating back to some stunning upsets in the Big 12 Tourney when they were the #1 seed. ISU has had nowhere near the postseason success that Scott Drew and Mulkey have achieved. That grates on them more than you can imagine.

Their record in Waco in those top 3 sports (extend that into all sports if you prefer) is absolutely abysmal.

I personally would like to see them go to the Big 10 where they are a better fit geographically and replace them with Arkansas (even now), but that conference doesn't want them.

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Get a load of this...
https://cyclonefanatic.com/forum/threads/baylor-is-likely-going-to-be-playing-in-the-big-12-title-game-and-that-makes-me-want-to-vomit.252528/

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We started winning again

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Mitch Henessey said:

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Flood Aggy is very entitled for a program that has won more than 8 games once since 1906.

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This shook me. I double checked it's accuracy. It's true.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/iowa-state/

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lmao. So we have anywhere between 4 and 6 more games still to play and have already equaled their most winning seasons ever.

lol Iowa State

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EK bear said:

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What? Iowa state has always hated Baylor. We were the two battling for the bottom of the conference and when BU rose above them they couldn't stand it.

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No. Their fans generally were ok with Baylor a few years ago, ofc you always have salty fans. Many only hate us because of the rape scandal, otherwise we don't cross their mind too often.

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Way off base.

Their hate for us is nothing new. We used to beat the daylights out of them when we were in the SWC and played them non conference before the Big 12. ISU is one of the all time doormats in college football and their semi recent "not sucking" has gotten to their heads a bit. This is also definitely not just a football thing...

ISU likes basketball. A lot. They like womens basketball. A lot. Baylor has crushed their hopes and dreams in those two sports more times than many on here remember - dating back to some stunning upsets in the Big 12 Tourney when they were the #1 seed. ISU has had nowhere near the postseason success that Scott Drew and Mulkey have achieved. That grates on them more than you can imagine.

Their record in Waco in those top 3 sports (extend that into all sports if you prefer) is absolutely abysmal.

I personally would like to see them go to the Big 10 where they are a better fit geographically and replace them with Arkansas (even now), but that conference doesn't want them.

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We only played IowaSt once before Big12: a 35-0 win in Ames in 1988.

I only recall playing them once in basketball pre-Big12: we beat them in 1990 or 1991 when Fred Hoiberg was their PG.

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PartyBear said:

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It is that the we are winning and have generally this entire decade. I ran the numbers the other night. We have won about 65% of our games this decade thus far are and there are only a few games left to play this decade. I didn't check anyone else's numbers but that may be second best in the XII his decade. Our winning pct this decade may be higher than Texas. I'm not sure however about that. As I'm typing this I forgot that TCU feasted on cream puffs in 10-12 so they are up their as well.

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OVERALL RECORD THIS DECADE (Current & former Big 12 members)
1. Oklahoma 105-24 (.814)
2. Oklahoma State 91-35 (.722)
3. TCU 86-40 (.683)
4. Texas A&M 82-44 (.651)
5. Baylor 81-44 (.648)
6. Kansas State 79-46 (.632)
7. Missouri 75-50 (.600)
8. West Virginia 73-51 (.589)
9. Nebraska 74-52 (.587)
10. Texas 69-55 (.556)
11. Texas Tech 60-62 (.492)
12. Iowa State 49-72 (.405)
13. Colorado 43-79 (.352)
14. Kansas 21-96 (.179)

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and that includes 3 years of: 7-6, 1-11, 7-6.

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4 years. 10 was a 6-7 season.

PartyBear said:

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Beaneater said:

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Texasjeremy said:

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PartyBear said:

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It is that the we are winning and have generally this entire decade. I ran the numbers the other night. We have won about 65% of our games this decade thus far are and there are only a few games left to play this decade. I didn't check anyone else's numbers but that may be second best in the XII his decade. Our winning pct this decade may be higher than Texas. I'm not sure however about that. As I'm typing this I forgot that TCU feasted on cream puffs in 10-12 so they are up their as well.

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OVERALL RECORD THIS DECADE (Current & former Big 12 members)
1. Oklahoma 105-24 (.814)
2. Oklahoma State 91-35 (.722)
3. TCU 86-40 (.683)
4. Texas A&M 82-44 (.651)
5. Baylor 81-44 (.648)
6. Kansas State 79-46 (.632)
7. Missouri 75-50 (.600)
8. West Virginia 73-51 (.589)
9. Nebraska 74-52 (.587)
10. Texas 69-55 (.556)
11. Texas Tech 60-62 (.492)
12. Iowa State 49-72 (.405)
13. Colorado 43-79 (.352)
14. Kansas 21-96 (.179)

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and that includes 3 years of: 7-6, 1-11, 7-6.

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4 years. 10 was a 6-7 season.

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No it wasn't.

Their head coach is a dipstick that doesn't have enough faith in his D to force an OT against Oklahoma. We'll never know how it would've worked out, but that's all on him.

Don't give 3 shytes what he thinks of us though. Some of us are past them. Except the OP. Move on.