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Game Day Thread: #7 Baylor (11-2) vs. #5 Georgia (11-2)

December 31, 2019
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The Baylor Bears (11-2) will face off with the Georgia Bulldogs (11-2) in the 2019 Allstate Sugar Bowl at the Superdome in New Orleans on Wednesday, Jan. 1 at 7:45 p.m. CT. 


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Baylor’s job at keeping Matt Rhule in Waco Colt Barber
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Matt Rhule Quote of the Week...

“I think when you start placing certain value on games than -- a lot of times that comes from us; it doesn't come from the kids. It comes from us as coaches. We were motivated to play against Stephen F. Austin. We were motivated in the last game of the year to play against Kansas. We were motivated in the Big 12 championship game. And at the end of the day, if our players aren't motivated to play in this game, what does it say about our program? What does it say about me? What does it say about them? We want to turn out tough, hard-working, competitive guys. And I'll say this about our players. If I went out there today and said, "Hey, we have to run ten wind sprints," there would be some grumbling. They're back there laughing at me again. But if I said I think, I think Kalon [Barnes] is faster than [Josh] Fleeks, our guys would line up and they would run against each other all day. We have competitive players. We're going to go out there and we're going right from here to practice. There's no going to the hotel. We're going right to practice. We're getting off the bus. We're putting full pads on and we're putting the ball down. We're saying one zone, one compete. That's just kind of who we are. We're a blue-collar, tough, competitive team. Our team will be beyond motivated. And we have to be because this is such a great team we're facing. I'm motivated. I have never really met Coach [Kirby] Smart, but I certainly respect him. So a chance to go against him as a head coach, I have to be at my best. And so I think our guys are highly, highly motivated.”


Baylor Key Players

Quarterback #12 Charlie Brewer – Brewer is cleared, the answer everyone was looking for after the Big 12 Championship Game. The Bears signal caller went through concussion protocol and was able to pass a week ago. The rest has been great for Brewer and he is the healthiest he could possibly be at this point in the season. On the season he is completing 65% of his passes for 2,950 yards and 20 touchdowns to go along with 337 yards and 10 touchdowns on the ground. He comes into this Sugar Bowl matchup ready to face the best defense this team has seen over the course of the season. A win in this game would probably be a top five win in Baylor football history and his legacy would gain even more ground on the top quarterbacks in school history.

Wide receiver #5 Denzel Mims – The senior wide receiver still has a bad taste in his mouth after the Big 12 Championship game in which he had zero catches. There is no way that he will want to go out with two straight poor performances so there will most likely be a steady amount of targets going his way. The more the season has progressed the more it has been apparent that Mims is really a major part if not the most important part of the engine that moves the offense. This is a big game for him as he matches up against two NFL level type cornerbacks so there is a chance to improve his draft stock. On the year he has 61 receptions for 945 yards and 11 touchdowns.

Defensive end #93 James Lynch – NFL draft questions abound for Coach Rhule but also for the best player on this football team which is James Lynch. The unanimous All American has been a steady force on this defense for the past three seasons but this year  he has become even more impactful. As the leader in sacks in the Big 12 he will have to play a major role in this football game since Georgia has only given up 12 sacks this season. But with three starters on the offensive line out for Georgia including a top 5 pick, there will be plenty of opportunities for Lynch to be a major problem for the Bulldogs. There is a major opportunity for Lynch to raise his draft stock even more before making his decision.

Defensive tackle #99 Bravvion Roy – Another star defensive lineman who has taken his game to another level this season. Roy has been a staple along the defensive front this season as he had completely plugged up running lanes while also getting after the quarterback in the new three-man front. Roy should be dominate against a banged up Georgia front and he can prove to NFL scouts what he could do at the next level. I have not seen a player take a bigger jump in a single season than Roy has this year, it has been remarkable.

Safety #3 Chris Miller – One of the stud safeties for the Bears defense will play a big role in his last game as a Baylor player. This Georgia team is going to try to run the ball downhill at Baylor all night well Miller can play a big role in putting a stop to that. Miller is ferocious tackler but outside of the targeting penalties he has played much more consistently under control. Look for him to rack up double digit tackles in his last games of his Baylor career.


Georgia Key Players

Quarterback #11 Jake Fromm – The Bulldogs quarterback has had a mediocre season compared to the expectations. Largely because the receivers have been mediocre but he also has not been sharp at times. On the year he has completed 60% of his passes for 2,610 yards and 22 touchdowns with only five interceptions. He has only been sacked 12 times so time has not been an issue for him but if Baylor can get after him they could make his efficient drop even more this would require stopping the run and forcing Fromm into obvious passing situations. If he plays well Baylor will be in some trouble.

Wide receiver #1 George Pickens – The true freshman has become the lead receiver for this Georgia team ever since Lawrence Cager went down due to injury. Cager is the star of this receiving core but has not been healthy so Pickens is the guy. He is a big body who can flat out run and jump so in the red zone he is a nightmare.

Running back #7 D’Andre Swift – Will he play or not? the star running back will be a hot name on NFL draft boards and has carried this offense at times. On the year he has 195 carries for 1,216 yards and seven touchdowns. He is the difference maker for the offense and an elite every down running back who can wear down a defense or run away from it. Baylor will need to do a better job this year than they did on Vanderbilt’s Keshawn Vaughn in the Texas Bowl.

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Game Day Thread: #7 Baylor (11-2) vs. #5 Georgia (11-2)

109,529 Views | 910 Replies | Last: 4 yr ago by CHP Bear
Pecos 45
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CutTheTVoff said:

Pecos 45 said:

Timbear said:

Rhule ain't getting the O we need. It's just not who he is.
And yet he won 11 games.


This is true but the B12 was down this year. Way down . I'm taking 1-4 this bowl season down.
Hey, I was a Baylor student when the old Southwest Conference was basically Texas, Arkansas and the little sisters and we still couldn't win three games.
I'll take an 11 win season in a "down" year any day.
(You guys haven't suffered enough.)

Signing off for the night.
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Branch155 said:

CutTheTVoff said:

I thought we'd win 6. 11 is nice. A few were luck. Could've easily been a 6 or 7 win season.

Next year I predict 7 wins.
Could've been 13.
And LSU instead of Georgia. Even with the loss, the taste of Sugar is definitely sweeter. Playing LSU probably would have left a really bitter taste in my mouth.
kbrun
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Well guess Rhule can go and enjoy Cabo now. Ready for Mulk.
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boognish_bear said:

BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

Well, maybe the bright side is the NFL won't be so high on Rhule now, which will ensure him staying and continuing to build this team. All he needs to do is get an offense and we're a complete team.


Apparently the Colts wanted him after 1-11.

I don't think losing to Georgia its going to hurt his image at all
No, but I have an idea that Matt really wants to finish at Baylor with a big finish. He might have considered a Sugar Bowl win over a #5 team a big enough finish, but now I think he's going to want to show more as Baylor's head coach, no matter what the NFL says.
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Dia del DougO
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It seemed like indecision, and Bo probably doesn't feel any better getting pulled after two plays.

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Must have been part of the terms of agreement at Appomattox

CutTheTVoff
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Dia del DougO said:

It seemed like indecision, and Bo probably doesn't feel any better getting pulled after two plays.




I'd like to see Bo play 4 quarters
Dia del DougO
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Outcome of this game should have no effect on Rhule's career path. I don't get the feeling he's ready to go anyway. But If he's going, he's going.
"The only true currency in this bankrupt world is what you share with someone else when you're uncool."
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Oldbear83 said:

boognish_bear said:

BusyTarpDuster2017 said:

Well, maybe the bright side is the NFL won't be so high on Rhule now, which will ensure him staying and continuing to build this team. All he needs to do is get an offense and we're a complete team.


Apparently the Colts wanted him after 1-11.

I don't think losing to Georgia its going to hurt his image at all
No, but I have an idea that Matt really wants to finish at Baylor with a big finish. He might have considered a Sugar Bowl win over a #5 team a big enough finish, but now I think he's going to want to show more as Baylor's head coach, no matter what the NFL says.


I had that same thought. Several times he's said he still has unfinished business at BU.
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CutTheTVoff said:

Dia del DougO said:

It seemed like indecision, and Bo probably doesn't feel any better getting pulled after two plays.




I'd like to see Bo play 4 quarters
i'd rather see Zeno play four quarters and Gerry be a TE (not sure what other position his size gets him to) because I sure as heck don't see Gerry being a QB based on what we have seen.
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I don't think a head coach's business is ever really finished. But I think he likes where he is, especially where his family is at this point, particularly the kids. And his current job us actually a really good one.
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GreenGold75
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The quarterback situation for the start of the 2020 season should be very interesting. Way to early to speculate--I suppose. But I am already looking forward to Ole Miss at Reliant Stadium
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Dia del DougO said:

Outcome of this game should have no effect on Rhule's career path. I don't get the feeling he's ready to go anyway. But If he's going, he's going.
Agree with this completely. Win didn't mean a period on his time here...loss doesn't mean NFL is out of the question because he has work to do. CMR is going to hear the Giants and Panthers and if it's right for him/his family - will be gone. I don't think either of those situations is going to be enough to sway what he has brewing in Waco but no one knows but CMR.
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CutTheTVoff said:

Dia del DougO said:

It seemed like indecision, and Bo probably doesn't feel any better getting pulled after two plays.




I'd like to see Bo play 4 quarters
Feel free to call me whatever, I won't take it personal. I see him as an outstanding linebacker. But then that's probably why I'm not making 4+ mil as a coach. Keep it clean it's only an opinion.
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Did u hear the SEC SEC chants. It's like a cult with these people.
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CutTheTVoff said:

Pecos 45 said:

Timbear said:

Rhule ain't getting the O we need. It's just not who he is.
And yet he won 11 games.


This is true but the B12 was down this year. Way down . I'm taking 1-4 this bowl season down.


History won't remember that because it's an impossible comparison to make year to year. 11 win season in the books which can't be erased.
kbrun
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But in truth, we are not at the SEC level.
wgeralds
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CHP Bear said:

CutTheTVoff said:

Dia del DougO said:

It seemed like indecision, and Bo probably doesn't feel any better getting pulled after two plays.




I'd like to see Bo play 4 quarters
Feel free to call me whatever, I won't take it personal. I see him as an outstanding linebacker. But then that's probably why I'm not making 4+ mil as a coach. Keep it clean it's only an opinion.
Seems like Phil Snow likes range-y/fast/collapsing LB's like Johnston/Bernard/Williams. LB's who can drop into Nickel coverage and player slot receivers man to man. Gerry is too big for that (I think). Gerry's size reminds me of an Alabama LB like CJ Mosley, Tim Williams, Rashaan Evans, Dont'a Hightower - slower but boy do you not want to get tackled by them because you will be hurting tomorrow.
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kbrun said:

But in truth, we are not at the SEC level.
Sure they are. Just not LSU, Bama, Georgia level.
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Jack Bauer said:

Did u hear the SEC SEC chants. It's like a cult with these people.


Yep

Eff em

But still their top teams are pretty good. The rest are there for scrimmages
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But when speaking of "not at the SEC level" I suppose we are talking about the top 4 or 5 teams--Bama, LSU, etc. But I would have to think Baylor is competitive with--or better than--at least half of the SEC teams. We will get the chance to measure this theory in about 9 months against Ole Miss. I am saying we certainly wouldn't be at the bottom of the SEC.
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BUmoneymaker said:

Jack Bauer said:

Did u hear the SEC SEC chants. It's like a cult with these people.


Yep

Eff em

But still their top teams are pretty good. The rest are there for scrimmages
And bottom feeders are considered top notch P5 wins for ratings.
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Dia del DougO said:

kbrun said:

But in truth, we are not at the SEC level.
Sure they are. Just not LSU, Bama, Georgia level.


I thought we were as good as this team. We need to become more "big game" ready but that comes from playing in big games. We had 3 this year.
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kbrun said:

But in truth, we are not at the SEC level.
We were last Bowl game...
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CHP Bear said:

Branch155 said:

CutTheTVoff said:

I thought we'd win 6. 11 is nice. A few were luck. Could've easily been a 6 or 7 win season.

Next year I predict 7 wins.
Could've been 13.
And LSU instead of Georgia. Even with the loss, the taste of Sugar is definitely sweeter. Playing LSU probably would have left a really bitter taste in my mouth.


You would rather lose to Georgia in the sugar bowl than lose in the CFP?
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Branch155
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CHP Bear said:

CutTheTVoff said:

Dia del DougO said:

It seemed like indecision, and Bo probably doesn't feel any better getting pulled after two plays.




I'd like to see Bo play 4 quarters
Feel free to call me whatever, I won't take it personal. I see him as an outstanding linebacker. But then that's probably why I'm not making 4+ mil as a coach. Keep it clean it's only an opinion.
Interesting take. UNC converted Chazz Surratt from QB to LB. In his first season after the switch, Surratt made first-team all-ACC. Surratt is 6'2", 225 lbs. GB is 6'3", 220 lbs.

Bo has more potential at QB than Surratt did, but it was evident that Surratt just didn't have "it" at QB. But he definitely has "it" at LB.
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GreenGold75 said:

The quarterback situation for the start of the 2020 season should be very interesting. Way to early to speculate--I suppose. But I am already looking forward to Ole Miss at Reliant Stadium



No more Brewer against Ole Miss...

I wonder what they'll do to out coach Happy Fun Football?

Onside opening kick?
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Dia del DougO said:

Outcome of this game should have no effect on Rhule's career path. I don't get the feeling he's ready to go anyway. But If he's going, he's going.
Well maybe an NFL will buy out his contract and then let's go get Philip Montgomery back, but I don't know if Rhule goes if Snow goes with him. Time to axe Jeff Nixon too. What a bunch of hooey that Charlie was ready for this game. When I look into his eyes I see a guy who is totally 100% affected by all the hits.
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tommie said:

Dia del DougO said:

kbrun said:

But in truth, we are not at the SEC level.
Sure they are. Just not LSU, Bama, Georgia level.


I thought we were as good as this team. We need to become more "big game" ready but that comes from playing in big games. We had 3 this year.
I have said it many times, I think Brewer is a real competitor and great for what Baylor needed to get to this level. But his physical limitations as a passer put a ceiling on what the offense is capable of with its outside speed. Against this type of defense, Baylor was really hard pressed to make a lot of plays and put consistent drives together. When the next stud QB takes over, whomever that may be, I think the potential becomes greater for Baylor to take it up another notch. It was really impressive to get as far as they did with what they have.
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Jorkel said:

CHP Bear said:

Branch155 said:

CutTheTVoff said:

I thought we'd win 6. 11 is nice. A few were luck. Could've easily been a 6 or 7 win season.

Next year I predict 7 wins.
Could've been 13.
And LSU instead of Georgia. Even with the loss, the taste of Sugar is definitely sweeter. Playing LSU probably would have left a really bitter taste in my mouth.


You would rather lose to Georgia in the sugar bowl than lose in the CFP?
I prefer to win the Sugar Bowl or CFP.
 
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