The greatest Baylor Bear football player ever. Can't get a statue of him built at Baylor because of how inept we are but for the love of God if UT can name their football field after Earl and Ricky why can't we at least name our field after Mike Singletary #63 and Baylor's greatest player ever?
Would be awesome to have games called from Samurai Field at Baylor University.......

John Eddie Williams Field already has a namesake...a very well deserved one. If you want a statue built for Singletary, more power to ya.

Is John Eddie a 3 time Collegiate All-American and in the College Football HOF?
Did he play in the NFL and make the Pro-Bowl 7-8 times, win a Super Bowl, 2 time DEFENSIVE PLAYER of the YEAR in the NFL and make it to the NFL Football Hall of Fame in the first year of eligibility?
Can't seem to find anything about John Eddie's Collegiate or NFL career on Google so enlighten me Sic Em.

Statue, for sure. Field name, no. Already named, but if you're going to name it after Baylor's best player ever...it's the one that won a Heisman.

I'll take an Iron Mike over a 100 Rg3 any day of the week. When RG3 off the field life matches MS then let's talk. The statue should have never been even put up - hype and an "in the moment knee jerk reaction".

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I'll take an Iron Mike over a 100 Rg3 any day of the week. When RG3 off the field life matches MS then let's talk. The statue should have never been even put up - hype and an "in the moment knee jerk reaction".

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Yes, a Heisman and a complete almost single handed turnaround for Baylor Football that we are still reaping the benefits of even after a big misstep is all just hype. There's a reason he has a statue and it sits in the lobby of the Highers Athletic Complex.

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I'll take an Iron Mike over a 100 Rg3 any day of the week. When RG3 off the field life matches MS then let's talk. The statue should have never been even put up - hype and an "in the moment knee jerk reaction".

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This is stupid. RG3 and CAB are the reason the stadium was even built. Of course RG3 should have a statue. Something should probably be done for Mike also.

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I'll take an Iron Mike over a 100 Rg3 any day of the week. When RG3 off the field life matches MS then let's talk. The statue should have never been even put up - hype and an "in the moment knee jerk reaction".

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Every school in the country builds statues of their Heisman winners. Don't act like this was unique to Baylor.

You are right - RG3 was a great College football player. So was Mike Singletary. Both excelled at their particular position - one received awards over multiple years while the other only in one year. But not so fast....The Ohio State University has ZERO statues of their 7 Heisman winners - same with UCLA. I would say their football history far exceeds Baylor's.

RG3 also isn't the sole reason for a new stadium at Baylor - that development was going to happen one way or another at some point. CAB help speed up that process....

So, as a player, would you rather have a statue outside of a college stadium or a yellow jacket and a bust in Canton, Ohio.....easy decision to me.

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TrustTheProcess said:

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I'll take an Iron Mike over a 100 Rg3 any day of the week. When RG3 off the field life matches MS then let's talk. The statue should have never been even put up - hype and an "in the moment knee jerk reaction".

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Every school in the country builds statues of their Heisman winners. Don't act like this was unique to Baylor.

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Yep, went to Auburn last month and saw 3 statues standing.

Cam Newton
Bo Jackson
Pat Sullivan

The reason the field is named for John Eddie Williams is because he gave the university large sums of money for the athletic department. Same with naming the stadium after Drayton McLane. Few alumni have given more.

I'm not saying that this means they are more deserving but this is the way it works. This is reality, whether we like it or not. Personally, I have no problem with either because I did not give millions to the university and, like McLane, don't care if anything on campus is named for me.

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Is John Eddie a 3 time Collegiate All-American and in the College Football HOF?
Did he play in the NFL and make the Pro-Bowl 7-8 times, win a Super Bowl, 2 time DEFENSIVE PLAYER of the YEAR in the NFL and make it to the NFL Football Hall of Fame in the first year of eligibility?
Can't seem to find anything about John Eddie's Collegiate or NFL career on Google so enlighten me Sic Em.

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well, uh...,...

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The reason the field is named for John Eddie Williams is because he gave the university large sums of money for the athletic department. Same with naming the stadium after Drayton McLane. Few alumni have given more.

I'm not saying that this means they are more deserving but this is the way it works. This is reality, whether we like it or not. Personally, I have no problem with either because I did not give millions to the university and, like McLane, don't care if anything on campus is named for me.

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And, if memory serves, McLane pledged his money wanting it to be called "Baylor Stadium." He didn't even want his name on the thing until Briles convinced him to allow Baylor to call it that. Something about signaling to recruits that we had big-money donors that could hold their own with the T. Boone Pickens and Joe Jamails of the world.

IIRC, naming the stadium for McLane was demanded by Baylor fans. At least that's how it was reported. I don't know how much it matters whose idea it was, so long as it was not McLane himself.

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I'll take an Iron Mike over a 100 Rg3 any day of the week. When RG3 off the field life matches MS then let's talk. The statue should have never been even put up - hype and an "in the moment knee jerk reaction".

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Bubble award for the day.

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IIRC, naming the stadium for McLane was demanded by Baylor fans. At least that's how it was reported. I don't know how much it matters whose idea it was, so long as it was not McLane himself.

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I don't have a problem with it. He loved Baylor. Let em build all the statues they want of our great players, coaches, etc. If we love em, what difference does it make! Mike S. Should have one too! We're proud of him! So why not. RGlll is great also. Nothing wrong with him getting a statue. Our Heisman trophy winner! It's not like we have had a lot of em.

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IIRC, naming the stadium for McLane was demanded by Baylor fans. At least that's how it was reported. I don't know how much it matters whose idea it was, so long as it was not McLane himself.

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I don't have a problem with it. He loved Baylor. Let em build all the statues they want of our great players, coaches, etc. If we love em, what difference does it make! Mike S. Should have one too! We're proud of him! So why not.

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I agree completely with every word!

John Eddie wrote a bigger check. Its (sadly) just that simple peeps. Don't overthink it. It is about the money, and has been for the past 10+ years.

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Statue, for sure. Field name, no. Already named, but if you're going to name it after Baylor's best player ever...it's the one that won a Heisman.

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And Johnny Manziel won a Heisman year too. What's your point?

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The reason the field is named for John Eddie Williams is because he gave the university large sums of money for the athletic department. Same with naming the stadium after Drayton McLane. Few alumni have given more.

I'm not saying that this means they are more deserving but this is the way it works. This is reality, whether we like it or not. Personally, I have no problem with either because I did not give millions to the university and, like McLane, don't care if anything on campus is named for me.

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And, if memory serves, McLane pledged his money wanting it to be called "Baylor Stadium." He didn't even want his name on the thing until Briles convinced him to allow Baylor to call it that. Something about signaling to recruits that we had big-money donors that could hold their own with the T. Boone Pickens and Joe Jamails of the world.

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It was the BOR that named it for McLane.

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Plus, cry me a river with that pathetic "he didn't want it" diatribe. In the end, it was his money and he could of easily said "no" and that would have been that. He likes his name on things - don't think otherwise.

But, certainly, BIG thanks to Drayton for his generosity to Baylor University. It is appreciated.

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The statue should have never been even put up - hype and an "in the moment knee jerk reaction".

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Every college in the country that has a Heisman winner has a statue of said winner on campus. Not a knee-jerk reaction. RG3 is a large part of why we have that stadium and a large part of why Baylor football has been relevant for the last 10 years. Take your blinders off. RG3 is Baylor football, and there's nothing wrong with that.

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Bear8084 said:

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Statue, for sure. Field name, no. Already named, but if you're going to name it after Baylor's best player ever...it's the one that won a Heisman.

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And Johnny Manziel won a Heisman year too. What's your point?

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That Heisman winner RGIII is the best Baylor player ever who deserves the statue outside McLane Stadium, and if they were to name a field after a Baylor football player, he should be the first one they think of.

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Bear8084 said:

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Statue, for sure. Field name, no. Already named, but if you're going to name it after Baylor's best player ever...it's the one that won a Heisman.

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And Johnny Manziel won a Heisman year too. What's your point?

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He'll have a statue at Texas A&M one day because he won a Heisman and is the best player in program history to date. That's how it works.

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Bear8084 said:

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Statue, for sure. Field name, no. Already named, but if you're going to name it after Baylor's best player ever...it's the one that won a Heisman.

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And Johnny Manziel won a Heisman year too. What's your point?

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Some Heisman winners get statues outside the stadium, some get framed photos at the post office.

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John Eddie wrote a bigger check. Its (sadly) just that simple peeps. Don't overthink it. It is about the money, and has been for the past 10+ years.

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Past 10 years? Past 2000 years

zunooreo said:

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John Eddie wrote a bigger check. Its (sadly) just that simple peeps. Don't overthink it. It is about the money, and has been for the past 10+ years.

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Past 10 years? Past 2000 years

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John Eddie wrote a bigger check. Its (sadly) just that simple peeps. Don't overthink it. It is about the money, and has been for the past 10+ years.

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Past 10 years? Past 2000 years

Singletary is worthy of some kind of honor. But if the question gets asked who should the field be named after (should that option ever come up again), a truly significant choice could be naming it after Jack Lummus and John Kane: Lummus-Kane Field. Baylor's two Medal of Honor athletes.

This has nothing to do with RG3 as Robert and his family are good friends thus please don't make it about Robert. The Heisman Trophy is a very big deal no doubt.
Regarding Mike he was in a league of his own and as a 3 Time All-American (College HOF) as well as arguably one of the best to ever play in the NFL (NFL HOF) it behooves me as to why we have never named anything at Baylor in his honor. Mike deserves the field to be named after him just as much as Earl and Ricky do at UT.
Hopefully John Eddie can see the value in naming the field after him and co-named Samurai (bought and paid for by) John Eddie Lawyer Field.

If defensive players could ever win a Heisman Mike would have won 1 if not possibly 2 of them trophies back in the day. For you younger ones you truly missed out on seeing the greatest talent ever to step on the field both as a football player as well as a LEADER at Baylor University!

HunterBear.....you are spot on but note the K always comes before the L in the alphabet....

Dont know if it should be Singletary or not, but the bay outside the stadium needs a name.

Was hoping it would one day be Briles Bay after he won his first Natty...


There should be a couple of them by now....man, what could have been...

I like all of the above: while I don't expect anything at McLane Stadium to be renamed, Jack Lummus and John Kane should be honored one way or another. Mike Singletary is a legend and has been a great ambassador for Baylor for years. He also deserves recognition. Maybe each should get a statue near McLane. There certainly is space available.

I suspect the university has various criteria for such things and they may include things we are not aware of. But mostly, it's about money. If someone wants a Lummus statue for example, then they should contact the university and arrange to pay for it. I think that's how the RGIII statue was done.

I still like the idea of a Briles statue at some point although I know that's not going to happen.

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I like all of the above: while I don't expect anything at McLane Stadium to be renamed, Jack Lummus should be honored one way or another. Singletary is a legend and also deserves recognition. Maybe each should get a statue near McLane. There certainly is space available.

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Agree with Lummus, but think it should be on the main campus.

The statues around the stadium should be reserved for Heisman winners and coaches, with NFL Hall of Famers being a possible exception in a different location.

Until my Baylor friend and minister John Westbrook has a statue in the south entrance area for students to see on a regular basis, there needs to be no discussion about naming a field or building a statue honoring anyone.

Next on the list should be Jack Lummus and John "killer" Kane, MOH recipients. But not until John is honored.

Money talks, well recognized, but maybe if Baylor looked to honoring or remembering character and sacrifice over financial gifts, we might alter some understanding of what is most important in life.