Thee University said:

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Let me guess, the fact that 400 (almost all white) Americans have more wealth then the entire black population, and 25% of the Latinx population doesn't bother you?!? Esp. since generationally it's been built on the backs of exploited people groups? American was built on cattel slavery. Capitalism doesn't exactly reflect God's image either ya know! And, chattel slavery is NOT Christian, even though Scripture was used to justify it.

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1. Please give me some of examples of anything built on the backs of exploited people groups.

2. Please explain how America was built on chattel slavery.

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1. Nike

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Several Posters here seem to think blacks were the only slaves. I am not black. My ancestors were slaves !!! Well documented. There has been slavery since the human race started dominion over the earth. Greeks, Romans, Alexander the Great, Persians all had slaves. American Indians had captured slaves.
Indentured servitude was also prevalent in this country. Basically slavery with a politically correct name.
Chinese were slaves that had no value....if 20 of them died when a tunnel blew up because of a work accident...so what, dig a hole stick em in it , cover it up and keep laying track. At least black slaves had a value (don't take that the wrong way), Irish building the Erie Canal were treated almost as bad. China has slaves now. They call them reeducation camps. So does North Korea. We all know about Germany in the 40's. Japan used British prisoner of war (basically slaves) to build the Burma railway. 1,400 died during the construction. There are "child workers" all over the world today who are basically slaves. Its a terrible blight on humanity and should be eradicated off the planet. Give this country some credit for the progress it has made since Ol Abe freed the slaves and paid for it with his life. We still can do better .....That's common ground I believe so lets start there and keep moving forward. Look what MLK accomplished without kneeling during the National Anthem. Look what Rosa Parks did with out raising her fist, Look what Frank Robinson did by hitting homers and stealing bases and not reacting to the vile and hateful things said to him, Look what the Red Tails did in WWII despite every obstacle thrown in front of them. They are true Black & American hero's and showed the way. Too many on this site want to re-litigate past grievances that have been corrected. We have come so far in what 40 - 50 something years. I read the other day some black students want an all black dorm....Oh No lets not go back to those days of separate but equal !!!! I had an ol High School track coach say "don't look back unless that is the direction you want to go" I think that applies well here.

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Excellent! And all based upon historical facts as opposed to Marxist propaganda.

One minor correction, though: indentured servants were NOT the same as slaves. They were not much better off in terms of their freedom (in a era when this was a novel ideas) but they were under a contract and when it was over they were free. They then had a chance to go out on their own and move up the social and economic ladder. This was all but impossible in Europe. Oh yes, those 20 black Africans who arrived in colonial Virginia in 1619: they were indentured servants as well, not slaves. They eventually earned their freedom and had the some opportunities. Some of them even succeeded. Anthony Johnson, an early black indentured servant became so wealthy that he owned slaves. That's right, a black slave owner in America. It was rare, but it happened--up to the Civil War. The frauds & hucksters at the NY Times & elsewhere in the Left generally don't like to talk about such things. They are more interested in socialist/fascist lies than facts.

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The census of 1830 found over 3,000 black slaveowners.

I did not realize the number was that large. I also did not know the census kept track of that information. It's been awhile since I delved they deeply into census records that far back.

Great idea! This leads me to a broader idea that would set Baylor apart as the premier Christian university in the country. I live in small town Mississippi. I have a good friend that is a Baptist minister. I have always wondered why Baptists don't support Baylor like Catholics support Notre Dame. I think it would go a long way to separate ourselves as the premier Christian (not only Baptist) institution in the country by scheduling Notre Dame and BYU on an annual basis. I think that once we establish ourselves this way, we would become many fans, at least, second favorite team if not first. It's all about eyeballs on TV.

Compelling idea. I doubt the Irish would be interested but we do have a home & home with BYU for the next 2 years. Who knows? Rhoades might decide to negotiate future deals. I don't expect this to happen, though.

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Thee University said:

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San Diego Bear said:

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Let me guess, the fact that 400 (almost all white) Americans have more wealth then the entire black population, and 25% of the Latinx population doesn't bother you?!? Esp. since generationally it's been built on the backs of exploited people groups? American was built on cattel slavery. Capitalism doesn't exactly reflect God's image either ya know! And, chattel slavery is NOT Christian, even though Scripture was used to justify it.

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1. Please give me some of examples of anything built on the backs of exploited people groups.

2. Please explain how America was built on chattel slavery.

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1. Nike

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Good one! That is part of the reason I refuse to wear anything Nike.

Thee University said:

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Let me guess, the fact that 400 (almost all white) Americans have more wealth then the entire black population, and 25% of the Latinx population doesn't bother you?!? Esp. since generationally it's been built on the backs of exploited people groups? American was built on cattel slavery. Capitalism doesn't exactly reflect God's image either ya know! And, chattel slavery is NOT Christian, even though Scripture was used to justify it.

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1. Please give me some of examples of anything built on the backs of exploited people groups.

2. Please explain how America was built on chattel slavery.

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1. Almost anything made in China: it's a totalitarian dictatorship that exploits its own population, commits genocide against Uighurs, and still adheres to socialist philosophy (while being more capitalist in practice, hence they are actually fascists).

2. That's a myth promulgated by Marxists while advocating for socialism which is the equivalent to slavery.

I'd like to see a list of US companies that derive a majority of their profits due to China labor.

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Great idea! This leads me to a broader idea that would set Baylor apart as the premier Christian university in the country. I live in small town Mississippi. I have a good friend that is a Baptist minister. I have always wondered why Baptists don't support Baylor like Catholics support Notre Dame. I think it would go a long way to separate ourselves as the premier Christian (not only Baptist) institution in the country by scheduling Notre Dame and BYU on an annual basis. I think that once we establish ourselves this way, we would become many fans, at least, second favorite team if not first. It's all about eyeballs on TV.

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We have fans that think we should be grateful to play Iowa State for reasons of self-pity.

I mean, I agree with you, but ask around. A lot of our fans don't grasp the strategic implications of our TV appearances.

Is this patch going to be on past this season?

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I'd like to see a list of US companies that derive a majority of their profits due to China labor.

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Probably more than any of us would imagine. And I would not be too surprised if Walmart is near the top of that list along with many high tech companies such as Apple.

NM

I am so ****** tired of politics controlling every aspect of my daily life. I rely on college sports and my school's message board for relief of it. It appears, if this **** continues, I'll have to for go those as well. ******* sickening!
Livingston has her handprints all over this. I would just like to read, watch, focus, enjoy and respond to SPORTS!

One love, one blood
One life, you got to do what you should
One life, with each other
Sisters, brothers

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I am so ****** tired of politics controlling every aspect of my daily life. I rely on college sports and my school's message board for relief of it. It appears, if this **** continues, I'll have to for go those as well. ******* sickening!
Livingston has her handprints all over this. I would just like to read, watch, focus, enjoy and respond to SPORTS!

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Baylor loves quoting Bible verses until it's actually time to preach the gospel. I can't remember us cracking the Bible open once in Chapel. Talk about a missed opportunity

Why the hell did this thread get bumped?

It is funny to see the overwhelming positive response before tribal marching orders were introduced, however. It's almost like we accepted then that equality, justice and love are all good things.