BU82EX said:

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"The Fiesta Bowl WAS Briles undoing. From that moment on, a couple of regents held a grudge and began undoing his tenure at Baylor. Payback is Hell." - Stranger

This quote says it all and proves all you need to know about Stranger and his kind on the BU board. When he gets fired from his next job or doesn't get that promotion, when his dog bites him or he gets pulled over for speeding...whatever that next thing is, he will pull out his trump card and exclaim: THE BOR HAS A GRUDGE AGAINST ME AND IT BEGAN MY UNDOING, PAYBACK IS HELL!!!!

Where is the mute button?

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This. It's either the BOR or UT conspiracy theories while ignoring the shortcomings that actually lead to Briles being fired.

Bear8084 said:

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BU82EX said:

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"The Fiesta Bowl WAS Briles undoing. From that moment on, a couple of regents held a grudge and began undoing his tenure at Baylor. Payback is Hell." - Stranger

This quote says it all and proves all you need to know about Stranger and his kind on the BU board. When he gets fired from his next job or doesn't get that promotion, when his dog bites him or he gets pulled over for speeding...whatever that next thing is, he will pull out his trump card and exclaim: THE BOR HAS A GRUDGE AGAINST ME AND IT BEGAN MY UNDOING, PAYBACK IS HELL!!!!

Where is the mute button?

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This. It's either the BOR or UT conspiracy theories while ignoring the shortcomings that actually lead to Briles being fired.

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Buddy Jones and Chip Brown say Happy New Year!!!

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It concerns many of us that hear that changes being made (and there have been 5 or 6) are not being made by Aranda, but above his head. That means Aranda will not be here long.

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Who, pray tell, above Aranda really has the football acumen to make these kinds of decisions?

If you hire the guy, let him do his job for two or three years.

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As his bell cow to success (or not), and better jobs, Mack Rhoades has his hands deep into every detail of the football program. There are many signs of this, if you will remain open enough to see them.

Chide me now....believe me later. Rhoades ran the football program this year, and will at least for the next year as well.

Sic'em

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Mack made a home run hire in Matt Rhule. Maybe the only coach in America that could have turned us around so quickly. He deserves a lot of credit for that. And the book on Aranda is far from written. Could turn out to be another fantastic hire. He goes on a smoaky every week and is very transparent and open. I always enjoy listening to him. At this point my confidence in him is very high.

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He turned a winning team coming off a bowl victory to a coach with a 1-11 season.

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Are you really this dense? Rhule lost an entire recruiting class, the program was tainted, and almost all of the key players from the previous team left (that great "bowl-winning" team that ended the regular season 0-6).

By year 3, he was within an OT of the CF playoffs. He's an NFL head coach now for a reason. There are very few college head coaches that make the jump to the NFL, and Rhule is one of the highest paid in the league. There's a reason that Art never had the same opportunity.

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If Art ever saw jumping to the NFL as something he had the slightest desire to do, I can't remember it.

Do you realize Rhule actively sought an NFL job since he was hired by Baylor? He campaigned for that for more years than most Presidents of the US campaigned for that position. It isn't like they approached him out of the blue.

PartyBear said:

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Do you realize Rhule actively sought an NFL job since he was hired by Baylor? He campaigned for that for more years than most Presidents of the US campaigned for that position. It isn't like they approached him out of the blue.

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NFL teams don't take applications like your local Cracker Barrel. Rhule's interest in an NFL head coaching job would have been irrelevant without reciprocation.

All coaches listen to serious offers. Just like people in regular jobs.

Again he would not have gotten one without constantly campaigning for it. I'm sure there are other HCs of Baylor had they taken the job as a prop for an NFL job campaign, would have also had opportunities.

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Again he would not have gotten one without constantly campaigning for it. I'm sure there are other HCs of Baylor had they taken the job as a prop for an NFL job campaign, would have also had opportunities.

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NFL teams were interested in Rhule because he established himself as an elite coach and leader. His campaigning is irrelevant without mutual interest. And there's no interest without performance.

The Colts then were highly and easily impressed with that win over KU in 17 I suppose.

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The Colts then were highly and easily impressed with that win over KU in 17 I suppose.

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While some Baylor fans like to pretend otherwise, Rhule did have a successful stint at Temple before arriving in Waco. That likely put him on teams' radars. And no one outside of the bubble thought highly of Baylor at that time, so that first year wasn't held against him. Regardless, he wasn't hired after that first season, so it's a moot point anyway.

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BU82EX said:

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"The Fiesta Bowl WAS Briles undoing. From that moment on, a couple of regents held a grudge and began undoing his tenure at Baylor. Payback is Hell." - Stranger

This quote says it all and proves all you need to know about Stranger and his kind on the BU board. When he gets fired from his next job or doesn't get that promotion, when his dog bites him or he gets pulled over for speeding...whatever that next thing is, he will pull out his trump card and exclaim: THE BOR HAS A GRUDGE AGAINST ME AND IT BEGAN MY UNDOING, PAYBACK IS HELL!!!!

Where is the mute button?

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This. It's either the BOR or UT conspiracy theories while ignoring the shortcomings that actually lead to Briles being fired.

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Buddy Jones and Chip Brown say Happy New Year!!!

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Oh sorry, yes BOR and Buddy Jones and Chip Brown. Anyone else you want to blame for your lot in life? Happy to keep the list....mom, dad, your first boss, little sis, older brother?

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The Colts then were highly and easily impressed with that win over KU in 17 I suppose.

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While some Baylor fans like to pretend otherwise, Rhule did have a successful stint at Temple before arriving in Waco. That likely put him on teams' radars. And no one outside of the bubble thought highly of Baylor at that time, so that first year wasn't held against him. Regardless, he wasn't hired after that first season, so it's a moot point anyway.

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BU82EX said:

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Bear8084 said:

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BU82EX said:

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"The Fiesta Bowl WAS Briles undoing. From that moment on, a couple of regents held a grudge and began undoing his tenure at Baylor. Payback is Hell." - Stranger

This quote says it all and proves all you need to know about Stranger and his kind on the BU board. When he gets fired from his next job or doesn't get that promotion, when his dog bites him or he gets pulled over for speeding...whatever that next thing is, he will pull out his trump card and exclaim: THE BOR HAS A GRUDGE AGAINST ME AND IT BEGAN MY UNDOING, PAYBACK IS HELL!!!!

Where is the mute button?

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This. It's either the BOR or UT conspiracy theories while ignoring the shortcomings that actually lead to Briles being fired.

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Buddy Jones and Chip Brown say Happy New Year!!!

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Oh sorry, yes BOR and Buddy Jones and Chip Brown. Anyone else you want to blame for your lot in life? Happy to keep the list....mom, dad, your first boss, little sis, older brother?

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What does the BOR, Buddy Jones, or Chip Brown have to do with my lot in life? From where I'm sitting, life is good. I have been truly blessed.

Always good to hear from you, BU82EX. Happy New Year!

Aranda better make a home run hire at OC. Period. Or it would be absolutely dumb to fire Fedora after one year in a COVID year. I don't care what anybody says.

The only Baylor fans who still care about the Liberty loss in 2017 are the troll wannabes on these threads.

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Aranda better make a home run hire at OC. Period. Or it would be absolutely dumb to fire Fedora after one year in a COVID year. I don't care what anybody says.

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I'm faily sure hiring someone much better is pretty much the goal after firing the other guy. But maybe that's just me.

Im pretty sure he is saying is that Aranda better achieve that goal and he is right. This hire determines the fate of the Aranda era. Aranda has already set himself up in a do or die situation here.

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Im pretty sure he is saying is that Aranda better achieve that goal and he is right.

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Who has argued otherwise? No coach gets more than one mulligan with his coordinators before he's at least on the hot seat.

Aranda had better start getting more wins if he wants to be a winner!!!

I hope someone has told Dave that it's important to hire a good OC or he might not try very hard. I just want to make sure he knows. If I had his number I'd text him about it.

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You are clueless about me and Briles. I'm retired so I'm not going to be fired ever.

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My wife says she retains firing power whenever I retire.

BaylorOkie said:

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I hope someone has told Dave that it's important to hire a good OC or he might not try very hard. I just want to make sure he knows. If I had his number I'd text him about it.

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Took ARB 5 years to become a winning coach at Baylor.

BaylorOkie said:

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I hope someone has told Dave that it's important to hire a good OC or he might not try very hard. I just want to make sure he knows. If I had his number I'd text him about it.

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Nah not just good....better than what he just fired. The new hire better come with more praise and credibility than the Fedora one. Or he messed up.

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I hope someone has told Dave that it's important to hire a good OC or he might not try very hard. I just want to make sure he knows. If I had his number I'd text him about it.

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Nah not just good....better than what he just fired. The new hire better come with more praise and credibility than the Fedora one. Or he messed up.

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No, he better come with more touchdowns.

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BaylorOkie said:

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I hope someone has told Dave that it's important to hire a good OC or he might not try very hard. I just want to make sure he knows. If I had his number I'd text him about it.

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Took ARB 5 years to become a winning coach at Baylor.

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Yeah and our practice facility was a 35 yard piece of carpet outside of floyd Casey when Briles arrived. Aranda inherited a much much much better situation than Briles.

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The new hire better come with more praise and credibility than the Fedora one. Or he messed up.

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I very much disagree. I couldn't care less how much praise and credibility the new guy has. Aranda has zero responsibility to hire someone that we as fans get excited about with our limited knowledge. He made a hire like that about 11 months ago and it didn't work out.

I'm certain he doesn't care what my dumbass thinks about the new guy, and I'm glad.

Grant Teaff went 0-7 in conference in year 2. It's a good thing this message board wasn't around back then to tell him what a terrible coach he was.

I really wish there was an ignore thread feature on this board.

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I hope someone has told Dave that it's important to hire a good OC or he might not try very hard. I just want to make sure he knows. If I had his number I'd text him about it.

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Took ARB 5 years to become a winning coach at Baylor.

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Yeah and our practice facility was a 35 yard piece of carpet outside of floyd Casey when Briles arrived. Aranda inherited a much much much better situation than Briles.

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How useful were those practice facilities this spring and summer when the kids couldn't use them, or the fancy locker rooms recruits couldn't see? CAB still had the harder path to start, but Aranda wasn't given an easy leg 1 trek for his BU coaching career. The fact he got the defense so locked in, with mostly new starters and not much practice, should be taken as a good sign. He chose wrong on his first OC that a lot thought was a safe bet, I imagine he has the exact knowledge of how key this hire has to be.

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I really wish there was an ignore thread feature on this board.

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Got to the 3 dots if your phone the phone of a post, and you can ignore posters. It works wonders.

BaylorOkie said:

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The new hire better come with more praise and credibility than the Fedora one. Or he messed up.

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I very much disagree. I couldn't care less how much praise and credibility the new guy has. Aranda has zero responsibility to hire someone that we as fans get excited about with our limited knowledge. He made a hire like that about 11 months ago and it didn't work out.

I'm certain he doesn't care what my dumbass thinks about the new guy, and I'm glad.

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It doesn't matter if the new OC is famous or a no name. He just has to have an immediate turn around next season or Aranda is going into year 3 as dead man walking.

Randa and Rhoades care about $, fan support, BMD's, ticket sales, paying the bills for other sports, so yes, they better care about what we think.

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Randa and Rhoades care about $, fan support, BMD's, ticket sales, paying the bills for other sports, so yes, they better care about what we think.

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Fortunately they are smart enough to know that support comes with wins, not by winning a 45 minute press conference.

If they are smart, the players, coaches, staff, and everyone else associated with Baylor Athletics will completely stay away from these boards! There is far too much crap, far too many ignorant "experts", and far too much speculation based upon rumors & gossip. Oh yes, also far too much whining.