Good ole Tragics!Yogi said:
I was a little young during this era, but I know many of my friends who attended Baylor or lived in Waco from the late 1970's tp the early 1980's remember Ronnie well.
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Original location was 800 Washington, what is now First Financial's HQ (across the street from the former bank building that is now BU Social Work). IIRC both the original location and the location a half block E of 25th street were both former Safeway grocery stores; the downtown store shut down in the mid/late 60s, and the 25th st store was replaced by the bigger one at 25th & Bosque that has been a steady string of Mexican Supermercados.Bexar Pitts said:
Before the club moved to it's 25th St. location, it was located downtown. IIRC, it was in an old building between Austin and Washington..maybe on 8th or 9th..I'm not sure of the exact spot, but I went many times downtown. They too were divided into 2 sections by age groups.The exact years escape me, but I want to say early 70's.
Thanks for the refresher! I believe you're correct on all counts on the 8th and Washington location. I don't go out 25th much either, so I'm not any help there. Lo siento.whitetrash said:Original location was 800 Washington, what is now First Financial's HQ (across the street from the former bank building that is now BU Social Work). IIRC both the original location and the location a half block E of 25th street were both former Safeway grocery stores; the downtown store shut down in the mid/late 60s, and the 25th st store was replaced by the bigger one at 25th & Bosque that has been a steady string of Mexican Supermercados.Bexar Pitts said:
Before the club moved to it's 25th St. location, it was located downtown. IIRC, it was in an old building between Austin and Washington..maybe on 8th or 9th..I'm not sure of the exact spot, but I went many times downtown. They too were divided into 2 sections by age groups.The exact years escape me, but I want to say early 70's.
When the 25th st location burned, wasn't it replaced with a corrugated metal structure? I don't go that way much any more and can't remember.
Was the Safeway store at 800 Washington torn down and replaced by the current building at the location? I'm remembering the current building there as rather small for a grocery store. But I think grocery stores were not just rather huge as they are now perhaps. The building that housed the HEB on 18th and Austin around the same time period though does seem quite larger than the 800 Washington building if I'm remembering correctly.whitetrash said:Original location was 800 Washington, what is now First Financial's HQ (across the street from the former bank building that is now BU Social Work). IIRC both the original location and the location a half block E of 25th street were both former Safeway grocery stores; the downtown store shut down in the mid/late 60s, and the 25th st store was replaced by the bigger one at 25th & Bosque that has been a steady string of Mexican Supermercados.Bexar Pitts said:
Before the club moved to it's 25th St. location, it was located downtown. IIRC, it was in an old building between Austin and Washington..maybe on 8th or 9th..I'm not sure of the exact spot, but I went many times downtown. They too were divided into 2 sections by age groups.The exact years escape me, but I want to say early 70's.
When the 25th st location burned, wasn't it replaced with a corrugated metal structure? I don't go that way much any more and can't remember.
I don't ever recall a teardown/rebuild, but FF did put a new "skin" on what was a plain white block building. I vaguely recall it being a Safeway in the mid-60s when I was really little, like 4 or 5. But I do recall MM being there in the early 70s (I had no idea what it was, but I recall the "Over 21" and "Under 21" entrances, and some joker had scraped off the "1" so that it read "Over 21" and "Under 2").PartyBear said:Was the Safeway store at 800 Washington torn down and replaced by the current building at the location? I'm remembering the current building there as rather small for a grocery store. But I think grocery stores were not just rather huge as they are now perhaps. The building that housed the HEB on 18th and Austin around the same time period though does seem quite larger than the 800 Washington building if I'm remembering correctly.whitetrash said:Original location was 800 Washington, what is now First Financial's HQ (across the street from the former bank building that is now BU Social Work). IIRC both the original location and the location a half block E of 25th street were both former Safeway grocery stores; the downtown store shut down in the mid/late 60s, and the 25th st store was replaced by the bigger one at 25th & Bosque that has been a steady string of Mexican Supermercados.Bexar Pitts said:
Before the club moved to it's 25th St. location, it was located downtown. IIRC, it was in an old building between Austin and Washington..maybe on 8th or 9th..I'm not sure of the exact spot, but I went many times downtown. They too were divided into 2 sections by age groups.The exact years escape me, but I want to say early 70's.
When the 25th st location burned, wasn't it replaced with a corrugated metal structure? I don't go that way much any more and can't remember.
You've nailed it again, amigo! There's a photo from Texas Collection of the grand opening of that Safeway, circa 1930..appears to indeed have smaller footprint than later floor plans. Edit: I took link down, as it had a jillion other photos in it.. Google safeway 800 washington waco tx and it's there.whitetrash said:I don't ever recall a teardown/rebuild, but FF did put a new "skin" on what was a plain white block building. I vaguely recall it being a Safeway in the mid-60s when I was really little, like 4 or 5. But I do recall MM being there in the early 70s (I had no idea what it was, but I recall the "Over 21" and "Under 21" entrances, and some joker had scraped off the "1" so that it read "Over 21" and "Under 2").PartyBear said:Was the Safeway store at 800 Washington torn down and replaced by the current building at the location? I'm remembering the current building there as rather small for a grocery store. But I think grocery stores were not just rather huge as they are now perhaps. The building that housed the HEB on 18th and Austin around the same time period though does seem quite larger than the 800 Washington building if I'm remembering correctly.whitetrash said:Original location was 800 Washington, what is now First Financial's HQ (across the street from the former bank building that is now BU Social Work). IIRC both the original location and the location a half block E of 25th street were both former Safeway grocery stores; the downtown store shut down in the mid/late 60s, and the 25th st store was replaced by the bigger one at 25th & Bosque that has been a steady string of Mexican Supermercados.Bexar Pitts said:
Before the club moved to it's 25th St. location, it was located downtown. IIRC, it was in an old building between Austin and Washington..maybe on 8th or 9th..I'm not sure of the exact spot, but I went many times downtown. They too were divided into 2 sections by age groups.The exact years escape me, but I want to say early 70's.
When the 25th st location burned, wasn't it replaced with a corrugated metal structure? I don't go that way much any more and can't remember.
Looked it up on MCAD; the FF building is listed at a little over 12K square feet, while Community B&T at 18th (which was originally an HEB that was enlarged by added a 2nd story) is a little over 10K square feet per floor. So that is about right for the size of a grocery store in the 1950s. Stores didn't start getting bigger under Safeway and HEB started building their tilt-wall locations around town in the late 60s/early 70s.
PB, I grew up in South Waco and our family shopped that HEB regularly..It was indeed large. That building later became home to Hicks Rubber Company, and that successful business operated there for many years. PS, back in the day when old Lake Waco "turned over" during hot dry summers, Progress Laundry behind HEB had free artesian water spigots that Wacoans could bring bottles and get great fresh tasting (and smelling) water free of charge.. Ahh, back in the day! :-)PartyBear said:
The HEB I was talking about was actually on Austin at 18th. I think a furniture used store is using the building now perhaps?
As to the 1930s photo. Those were the days you waited in line and a clerk did your actual picking out items in the back, I believe. I was thinking this Safeway at 800 Washington was more recent and more like todays grocery store but obviously smaller than grocery stores have been since the mid 70s or so especially since the late 80s..
Before my time, but I think HEB was at what is now Community, then moved to 18th & Austin in the late 50s. They also had stores at 20th & Waco Dr (what is now Antioch), Westview Village (what is now Pep Boys), Fairgate (somewhere in the middle I think, about what is now DuBois), and Southgate (the end near Bankston's) built about the same time. The Ghetto HEB at 12th & Speight may have come from the same time, I have no idea. All of those except campus and Southgate shuttered when they built where Office Depot is on Bosque in 1969 or 1970. Southgate lasted until they built across from Floyd Casey in 1990.PartyBear said:
The HEB I was talking about was actually on Austin at 18th. I think a used furniture store is using the building now perhaps?
As to the 1930s photo. Those were the days you waited in line and a clerk did your actual picking out items in the back, I believe. I was thinking this Safeway at 800 Washington was more recent and more like todays grocery store but obviously smaller than grocery stores have been since the mid 70s or so especially since the late 80s..
Wasn't the Westview Village location a Piggly Wiggly? At least at one time, I'm remembering that store as a Pigg...at my age, I surely could be wrong!whitetrash said:Before my time, but I think HEB was at what is now Community, then moved to 18th & Austin in the late 50s. They also had stores at 20th & Waco Dr (what is now Antioch), Westview Village (what is now Pep Boys), Fairgate (somewhere in the middle I think, about what is now DuBois), and Southgate (the end near Bankston's) built about the same time. The Ghetto HEB at 12th & Speight may have come from the same time, I have no idea. All of those except campus and Southgate shuttered when they built where Office Depot is on Bosque in 1969 or 1970. Southgate lasted until they built across from Floyd Casey in 1990.PartyBear said:
The HEB I was talking about was actually on Austin at 18th. I think a used furniture store is using the building now perhaps?
As to the 1930s photo. Those were the days you waited in line and a clerk did your actual picking out items in the back, I believe. I was thinking this Safeway at 800 Washington was more recent and more like todays grocery store but obviously smaller than grocery stores have been since the mid 70s or so especially since the late 80s..
Bexar Pitts said:Wasn't the Westview Village location a Piggly Wiggly? At least at one time, I'm remembering that store as a Pigg...at my age, I surely could be wrong!whitetrash said:Before my time, but I think HEB was at what is now Community, then moved to 18th & Austin in the late 50s. They also had stores at 20th & Waco Dr (what is now Antioch), Westview Village (what is now Pep Boys), Fairgate (somewhere in the middle I think, about what is now DuBois), and Southgate (the end near Bankston's) built about the same time. The Ghetto HEB at 12th & Speight may have come from the same time, I have no idea. All of those except campus and Southgate shuttered when they built where Office Depot is on Bosque in 1969 or 1970. Southgate lasted until they built across from Floyd Casey in 1990.PartyBear said:
The HEB I was talking about was actually on Austin at 18th. I think a used furniture store is using the building now perhaps?
As to the 1930s photo. Those were the days you waited in line and a clerk did your actual picking out items in the back, I believe. I was thinking this Safeway at 800 Washington was more recent and more like todays grocery store but obviously smaller than grocery stores have been since the mid 70s or so especially since the late 80s..
" By Jove, I think you've got it!" Thanks, I've been spinning this in my head trying to get the timeline.. BINGO!whitetrash said:Bexar Pitts said:Wasn't the Westview Village location a Piggly Wiggly? At least at one time, I'm remembering that store as a Pigg...at my age, I surely could be wrong!whitetrash said:Before my time, but I think HEB was at what is now Community, then moved to 18th & Austin in the late 50s. They also had stores at 20th & Waco Dr (what is now Antioch), Westview Village (what is now Pep Boys), Fairgate (somewhere in the middle I think, about what is now DuBois), and Southgate (the end near Bankston's) built about the same time. The Ghetto HEB at 12th & Speight may have come from the same time, I have no idea. All of those except campus and Southgate shuttered when they built where Office Depot is on Bosque in 1969 or 1970. Southgate lasted until they built across from Floyd Casey in 1990.PartyBear said:
The HEB I was talking about was actually on Austin at 18th. I think a used furniture store is using the building now perhaps?
As to the 1930s photo. Those were the days you waited in line and a clerk did your actual picking out items in the back, I believe. I was thinking this Safeway at 800 Washington was more recent and more like todays grocery store but obviously smaller than grocery stores have been since the mid 70s or so especially since the late 80s..
When HeB moved from Westview to Bosque (now Office Depot), PW moved from 34th & Bosque to Westview
So are diamonds, amigo! Note: I've only forgotten to put my cup under the coffee maker's stream twice. Got a sticky note on it now! :-)T-REX said:
Man yall are old lol
Just looked around the room for my glasses only to find them on my head.Bexar Pitts said:So are diamonds, amigo! Note: I've only forgotten to put my cup under the coffee maker's stream twice. Got a sticky note on it now! :-)T-REX said:
Man yall are old lol
So very true...I consider myself to be extremely fortunate...and I'm very grateful for every day.CorsicanaBear said:Just looked around the room for my glasses only to find them on my head.Bexar Pitts said:So are diamonds, amigo! Note: I've only forgotten to put my cup under the coffee maker's stream twice. Got a sticky note on it now! :-)T-REX said:
Man yall are old lol
Remember, getting old and humorously forgetful is a best case outcome.
how would that make you old? It was like 15 years ago lolPartyBear said:
Don't worry about. This poster called me old on the football board because because I said the Morriss era wasn't that long ago and the unis from then aren't old school at all. So there is some context for you on the accusation of being old.
