I saw an article in the Trib about a new plan for the old FCS site about adding a lake on Waco Creek there. I couldn't read the article or post the link since it is behind a pay wall but did anyone else see it? Is this just a proposed plan/option or is it further along than that and actually being discussed as an option?
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If it's a lake at the FCS location, with Waco Creek running into it, it should be named Lake Cacaweewee.
Will I be able to pay $5 to park on people's lawns to go fish it?
Lake CacaWeeWee was there for years.
Developers in Texas love creating mosquito breeding grounds.
Houston metro area especially is just filled with them.
Instead of creating a green space in the middle or front of a development...they say "wouldn't it be nice to dig a muddy hole and fill it with stagnant water"
Houston metro area especially is just filled with them.
Instead of creating a green space in the middle or front of a development...they say "wouldn't it be nice to dig a muddy hole and fill it with stagnant water"
developers in Houston don't have to try too hard.Redbrickbear said:
Developers in Texas love creating mosquito breeding grounds.
Houston metro area especially is just filled with them.
Instead of creating a green space in the middle or front of a development...they say "wouldn't it be nice to dig a muddy hole and fill it with stagnant water"
Mr. Treehorn treats objects like women, man.
Concerning the muddy holes in developments --
In recent years, many municipalities are requiring that developers provide a certain amount of storm water detention to compensate for what the planners term to be the 'impervious surfaces' that builders create when they build houses, buildings, streets, etc. Oftentimes that detention turns into some kind of muddy hole in the ground.
Developers would rather not have to do this at all and instead just drain rainwater runoff straight to the municipal storm sewers, because even though oftentimes they pay by the square foot for the land they are buying for the development, the big muddy hole makes them no money, as it obviously can't be built on.
Some developers get creative and call their muddy hole a 'private lake' that is then deeded to a HOA which then regularly extracts its pound of flesh from each resident in the development for the 'maintenance' of the muddy hole.
The alternative is for municipalities to spend more money on storm water infrastructure and most don't want to spend it on that.
In recent years, many municipalities are requiring that developers provide a certain amount of storm water detention to compensate for what the planners term to be the 'impervious surfaces' that builders create when they build houses, buildings, streets, etc. Oftentimes that detention turns into some kind of muddy hole in the ground.
Developers would rather not have to do this at all and instead just drain rainwater runoff straight to the municipal storm sewers, because even though oftentimes they pay by the square foot for the land they are buying for the development, the big muddy hole makes them no money, as it obviously can't be built on.
Some developers get creative and call their muddy hole a 'private lake' that is then deeded to a HOA which then regularly extracts its pound of flesh from each resident in the development for the 'maintenance' of the muddy hole.
The alternative is for municipalities to spend more money on storm water infrastructure and most don't want to spend it on that.
Good points.Eleven-League Grant said:
Concerning the muddy holes in developments --
In recent years, many municipalities are requiring that developers provide a certain amount of storm water detention to compensate for what the planners term to be the 'impervious surfaces' that builders create when they build houses, buildings, streets, etc. Oftentimes that detention turns into some kind of muddy hole in the ground.
Developers would rather not have to do this at all and instead just drain rainwater runoff straight to the municipal storm sewers, because even though oftentimes they pay by the square foot for the land they are buying for the development, the big muddy hole makes them no money, as it obviously can't be built on.
Some developers get creative and call their muddy hole a 'private lake' that is then deeded to a HOA which then regularly extracts its pound of flesh from each resident in the development for the 'maintenance' of the muddy hole.
The alternative is for municipalities to spend more money on storm water infrastructure and most don't want to spend it on that.
I had not thought about how much zoning and regulations play into this
In the Houston area this is especially true. The above is why it floods EVERY time it rains. Every new building/subdivision adds more concrete instead of dirt/grass for the rain to soak into it.Eleven-League Grant said:
Concerning the muddy holes in developments --
In recent years, many municipalities are requiring that developers provide a certain amount of storm water detention to compensate for what the planners term to be the 'impervious surfaces' that builders create when they build houses, buildings, streets, etc. Oftentimes that detention turns into some kind of muddy hole in the ground.
Developers would rather not have to do this at all and instead just drain rainwater runoff straight to the municipal storm sewers, because even though oftentimes they pay by the square foot for the land they are buying for the development, the big muddy hole makes them no money, as it obviously can't be built on.
Some developers get creative and call their muddy hole a 'private lake' that is then deeded to a HOA which then regularly extracts its pound of flesh from each resident in the development for the 'maintenance' of the muddy hole.
The alternative is for municipalities to spend more money on storm water infrastructure and most don't want to spend it on that.
Here is what the 'Lake on Waco Creek' area looks like today
Here are the proposed renderings for a $20m park that includes the 'lake.'
That's a fact anywhere. If you build, you're taking away dirt/grass and adding concrete. Lest we want to drive on grass highways and roads, that's going to be the case.cowboycwr said:In the Houston area this is especially true. The above is why it floods EVERY time it rains. Every new building/subdivision adds more concrete instead of dirt/grass for the rain to soak into it.Eleven-League Grant said:
Concerning the muddy holes in developments --
In recent years, many municipalities are requiring that developers provide a certain amount of storm water detention to compensate for what the planners term to be the 'impervious surfaces' that builders create when they build houses, buildings, streets, etc. Oftentimes that detention turns into some kind of muddy hole in the ground.
Developers would rather not have to do this at all and instead just drain rainwater runoff straight to the municipal storm sewers, because even though oftentimes they pay by the square foot for the land they are buying for the development, the big muddy hole makes them no money, as it obviously can't be built on.
Some developers get creative and call their muddy hole a 'private lake' that is then deeded to a HOA which then regularly extracts its pound of flesh from each resident in the development for the 'maintenance' of the muddy hole.
The alternative is for municipalities to spend more money on storm water infrastructure and most don't want to spend it on that.
Mr. Treehorn treats objects like women, man.
In the Midwest they are slowly but surely returning to gravel roads.trey3216 said:That's a fact anywhere. If you build, you're taking away dirt/grass and adding concrete. Lest we want to drive on grass highways and roads, that's going to be the case.cowboycwr said:In the Houston area this is especially true. The above is why it floods EVERY time it rains. Every new building/subdivision adds more concrete instead of dirt/grass for the rain to soak into it.Eleven-League Grant said:
Concerning the muddy holes in developments --
In recent years, many municipalities are requiring that developers provide a certain amount of storm water detention to compensate for what the planners term to be the 'impervious surfaces' that builders create when they build houses, buildings, streets, etc. Oftentimes that detention turns into some kind of muddy hole in the ground.
Developers would rather not have to do this at all and instead just drain rainwater runoff straight to the municipal storm sewers, because even though oftentimes they pay by the square foot for the land they are buying for the development, the big muddy hole makes them no money, as it obviously can't be built on.
Some developers get creative and call their muddy hole a 'private lake' that is then deeded to a HOA which then regularly extracts its pound of flesh from each resident in the development for the 'maintenance' of the muddy hole.
The alternative is for municipalities to spend more money on storm water infrastructure and most don't want to spend it on that.
Retain less heat, cheaper to maintain, etc.
https://blog.midwestind.com/converting-paved-to-unpaved-roads/
[There's a growing movement of converting paved into unpaved roads. By 2015, road conversion projects had occurred in 27 states (including Minnesota, North and South Dakota, Michigan, Alabama, Pennsylvania and more). ]
https://www.startribune.com/making-a-rural-comeback-the-old-gravel-road/118713504/
In rural areas, I think this is ideal (so long as someone will help upkeep the roads, since the cities aren't likely to do much).Redbrickbear said:In the Midwest they are slowly be surely returning to gravel roads.trey3216 said:That's a fact anywhere. If you build, you're taking away dirt/grass and adding concrete. Lest we want to drive on grass highways and roads, that's going to be the case.cowboycwr said:In the Houston area this is especially true. The above is why it floods EVERY time it rains. Every new building/subdivision adds more concrete instead of dirt/grass for the rain to soak into it.Eleven-League Grant said:
Concerning the muddy holes in developments --
In recent years, many municipalities are requiring that developers provide a certain amount of storm water detention to compensate for what the planners term to be the 'impervious surfaces' that builders create when they build houses, buildings, streets, etc. Oftentimes that detention turns into some kind of muddy hole in the ground.
Developers would rather not have to do this at all and instead just drain rainwater runoff straight to the municipal storm sewers, because even though oftentimes they pay by the square foot for the land they are buying for the development, the big muddy hole makes them no money, as it obviously can't be built on.
Some developers get creative and call their muddy hole a 'private lake' that is then deeded to a HOA which then regularly extracts its pound of flesh from each resident in the development for the 'maintenance' of the muddy hole.
The alternative is for municipalities to spend more money on storm water infrastructure and most don't want to spend it on that.
Retain less heat, cheaper to maintain, etc.
https://blog.midwestind.com/converting-paved-to-unpaved-roads/
[There's a growing movement of converting paved into unpaved roads. By 2015, road conversion projects had occurred in 27 states (including Minnesota, North and South Dakota, Michigan, Alabama, Pennsylvania and more). ]
https://www.startribune.com/making-a-rural-comeback-the-old-gravel-road/118713504/
Everyone *****es about the retaining ponds, but they're much better than some of the alternatives. I've seen firsthand a lot of the projected hydrology in Texas, and it's ugly). everyone in Houston can't seem to understand how it always floods, but forgets they live in a bowl that is at and below sea level in many spots with an unrelenting northward/northwestward expansion (main water absorption area).
Mr. Treehorn treats objects like women, man.
trey3216 said:That's a fact anywhere. If you build, you're taking away dirt/grass and adding concrete. Lest we want to drive on grass highways and roads, that's going to be the case.cowboycwr said:In the Houston area this is especially true. The above is why it floods EVERY time it rains. Every new building/subdivision adds more concrete instead of dirt/grass for the rain to soak into it.Eleven-League Grant said:
Concerning the muddy holes in developments --
In recent years, many municipalities are requiring that developers provide a certain amount of storm water detention to compensate for what the planners term to be the 'impervious surfaces' that builders create when they build houses, buildings, streets, etc. Oftentimes that detention turns into some kind of muddy hole in the ground.
Developers would rather not have to do this at all and instead just drain rainwater runoff straight to the municipal storm sewers, because even though oftentimes they pay by the square foot for the land they are buying for the development, the big muddy hole makes them no money, as it obviously can't be built on.
Some developers get creative and call their muddy hole a 'private lake' that is then deeded to a HOA which then regularly extracts its pound of flesh from each resident in the development for the 'maintenance' of the muddy hole.
The alternative is for municipalities to spend more money on storm water infrastructure and most don't want to spend it on that.
True but in the majority of cities it does not create flooding issues with every single storm unlike in Houston where every rainstorm causes underpasses to flood, entire neighborhoods to have impassable streets, etc. and it gets worse the longer the storm/ how many days ina row it rains. (Not even talking tropical depression or higher)