Waco Hilton Renovations

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CammoTX
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Two bills sent to the governor for final approval could release state funding for the renovation or replacement of a hotel in Waco, located adjacent to the Waco Convention Center. The first bill, House Bill 5012, proposes adding Waco to the list of eligible cities for the state's "qualified hotel project" program. This program offers a 10-year rebate on state hotel occupancy taxes and state sales taxes for hotel construction or renovation within 1,000 feet of a city-owned convention center.

The Hilton Waco, a 195-room facility that opened in 1981, could potentially benefit from this program as it is situated on city property near University Parks Drive and Franklin Avenue. The 11-story hotel last underwent significant renovations in 2008, which included room upgrades, the addition of a ballroom, exterior modifications and the inclusion of a restaurant.
Since its inception in 1993 to assist Houston, the qualified hotel project program has been authorized for 51 municipalities in Texas. However, only 13 projects have been constructed and prepared for occupancy, with the state paying a total of $204.2 million in rebates by August 2022.

While discussions regarding the development approach are ongoing, city and hotel officials are considering options such as renovating the existing Hilton or constructing a new hotel nearby. A city-commissioned study suggested relocating both the convention center and the Hilton to create a vast green space connecting the riverfront to downtown, but the Waco City Council has not committed to this vision.

Once the qualified hotel agreement is in effect, developers will retain the state rebate for the first 10 years of hotel operation. Following this period, the state will assess the return on investment for the subsequent 10 years. Finally, 20 years after the project's completion, the state will determine if the project has met the return-on-investment requirements or issue a bill for any shortfall in achieving the established goals.
FirmBear24
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The Waco Hilton had a Damon's in it well before 2008. As a young kid, those 4 screens with sports was amazing. Can't remember what went in there in 2008.
PartyBear
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Slight digression here. The post above made me wonder whatever happened to the Damon's chain. I have not seen one in 20 years or so when the Waco one closed. A quick google search indicates there are only 3 or 4 left in the US.
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FirmBear24 said:

The Waco Hilton had a Damon's in it well before 2008. As a young kid, those 4 screens with sports was amazing. Can't remember what went in there in 2008.
I remember watching a game or two there the first time the Women won the national championship. The wording was probably just off in the article where it should have said "including renovations to the restaurant."
PartyBear
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I remember restaurants having been in the Hilton going back to the 80s well before Damon's went in. I dont think they were any chains other than restaurants the Hilton has in other Hiltons but they have had restaurants going back to the beginning there I believe.
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2001-2002 we watched nfl at Damon's every Sunday.
Do not give what is holy to the dogs, nor throw your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet and turn around and attack you.
Grinnin bear
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I attended many call-in shows with Dave Roberts at the Damon's Restaurant in the Hilton. Good times... good times.
TXWayne
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When my son started at Baylor 10 years ago I was a Hyatt guy but since Waco had no Hyatt I converted over to Hilton and started staying there, been a Diamond member ever since. We try to stay at the Hilton for all the games and any other trip to Waco. Made a lot of friends from hanging out in the bar before and after games and have a lot of memories. After the women beat UConn Holly Rowe and crew hung out there.

With that said it is getting to be tired, as was noted it has not been update since 2008 and is showing the wear and tear. The main thing that has kept us there is the team stays there and the friends we have made that still stay there. I would like to see it updated as it will be within walking distance of the new basketball arena and would be nice to walk and not worry about parking.
EnglishBear
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Grinnin bear said:

I attended many call-in shows with Dave Roberts at the Damon's Restaurant in the Hilton. Good times... good times.
We rolled our eyes a lot.
BaylorHistory
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FirmBear24 said:

The Waco Hilton had a Damon's in it well before 2008. As a young kid, those 4 screens with sports was amazing. Can't remember what went in there in 2008.
Yeah every year from around 2000ish through 2004ish my parents would take us out of school the first day of March Madness and we'd go to Damon's for lunch. It was the highlight of the year for a 13 year old when streaming hadn't been popularized yet.
Noooo evidence for that, babeeyyy, just maaade it up.
cowboycwr
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TXWayne said:

When my son started at Baylor 10 years ago I was a Hyatt guy but since Waco had no Hyatt I converted over to Hilton and started staying there, been a Diamond member ever since. We try to stay at the Hilton for all the games and any other trip to Waco. Made a lot of friends from hanging out in the bar before and after games and have a lot of memories. After the women beat UConn Holly Rowe and crew hung out there.

With that said it is getting to be tired, as was noted it has not been update since 2008 and is showing the wear and tear. The main thing that has kept us there is the team stays there and the friends we have made that still stay there. I would like to see it updated as it will be within walking distance of the new basketball arena and would be nice to walk and not worry about parking.
Slightly off topic but... Maybe I have not stayed in enough hotels to see the difference but I have never understood the one brand loyalty. I sort of have a loyalty now but that is connected to a card and points I have.

To me one hotel is basically the same as another. Just different names.

Now I am talking hotels, not cheap dirty motels type things.

To me a Hilton is the same as a Hyatt as a Holiday Inn, etc.

But this Hilton in Waco looks old and worn out. I have stayed in a few others in Waco (Indigo, Aloft, Home2Suites, etc.) that are newer and much nicer in terms of everything not being as worn out/worn down.
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cowboycwr said:

TXWayne said:

When my son started at Baylor 10 years ago I was a Hyatt guy but since Waco had no Hyatt I converted over to Hilton and started staying there, been a Diamond member ever since. We try to stay at the Hilton for all the games and any other trip to Waco. Made a lot of friends from hanging out in the bar before and after games and have a lot of memories. After the women beat UConn Holly Rowe and crew hung out there.

With that said it is getting to be tired, as was noted it has not been update since 2008 and is showing the wear and tear. The main thing that has kept us there is the team stays there and the friends we have made that still stay there. I would like to see it updated as it will be within walking distance of the new basketball arena and would be nice to walk and not worry about parking.
Slightly off topic but... Maybe I have not stayed in enough hotels to see the difference but I have never understood the one brand loyalty. I sort of have a loyalty now but that is connected to a card and points I have.

To me one hotel is basically the same as another. Just different names.

Now I am talking hotels, not cheap dirty motels type things.

To me a Hilton is the same as a Hyatt as a Holiday Inn, etc.

But this Hilton in Waco looks old and worn out. I have stayed in a few others in Waco (Indigo, Aloft, Home2Suites, etc.) that are newer and much nicer in terms of everything not being as worn out/worn down.
For me the one brand loyalty is mostly related to perks from status. It's nothing crazy, but when much of my travel is work related anyways why not. I especially like the room upgrades which don't happen as often as I like and late check outs. Having automatic free late check-out can be really nice though.
Beardown1919
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Article in the Trib today outlining 6ish hotels coming online downtown over the next 18 +/- months. I think pretty much all of them should be walking distance from the arena which potentially would be cool.

https://wacotrib.com/news/local/groundbreaking-held-for-new-hyatt-place-in-downtown-waco/article_216df3ea-03db-11ee-9894-5fc4115d3bc6.html#tracking-source=home-top-story
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PartyBear said:

I remember restaurants having been in the Hilton going back to the 80s well before Damon's went in. I dont think they were any chains other than restaurants the Hilton has in other Hiltons but they have had restaurants going back to the beginning there I believe.
I waited tables in the restaurant and bar in the early 90's.
TXWayne
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cowboycwr said:

TXWayne said:

When my son started at Baylor 10 years ago I was a Hyatt guy but since Waco had no Hyatt I converted over to Hilton and started staying there, been a Diamond member ever since. We try to stay at the Hilton for all the games and any other trip to Waco. Made a lot of friends from hanging out in the bar before and after games and have a lot of memories. After the women beat UConn Holly Rowe and crew hung out there.

With that said it is getting to be tired, as was noted it has not been update since 2008 and is showing the wear and tear. The main thing that has kept us there is the team stays there and the friends we have made that still stay there. I would like to see it updated as it will be within walking distance of the new basketball arena and would be nice to walk and not worry about parking.
Slightly off topic but... Maybe I have not stayed in enough hotels to see the difference but I have never understood the one brand loyalty. I sort of have a loyalty now but that is connected to a card and points I have.

To me one hotel is basically the same as another. Just different names.

Now I am talking hotels, not cheap dirty motels type things.

To me a Hilton is the same as a Hyatt as a Holiday Inn, etc.

But this Hilton in Waco looks old and worn out. I have stayed in a few others in Waco (Indigo, Aloft, Home2Suites, etc.) that are newer and much nicer in terms of everything not being as worn out/worn down.
Well it is about accruing points and things you get with status. However Hilton is diluting status, Diamond does not seem to mean much any more but the points are nice because I use them for free stays. But as I said before, the main thing that has been keeping me at the Waco Hilton was friends I have made over the years that stay there and the fact the football team stays there. To your point, it is old and worn out, and my loyalty to it is waning for several reasons and am flirting with Marriott these days.
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Beardown1919 said:

cowboycwr said:

TXWayne said:

When my son started at Baylor 10 years ago I was a Hyatt guy but since Waco had no Hyatt I converted over to Hilton and started staying there, been a Diamond member ever since. We try to stay at the Hilton for all the games and any other trip to Waco. Made a lot of friends from hanging out in the bar before and after games and have a lot of memories. After the women beat UConn Holly Rowe and crew hung out there.

With that said it is getting to be tired, as was noted it has not been update since 2008 and is showing the wear and tear. The main thing that has kept us there is the team stays there and the friends we have made that still stay there. I would like to see it updated as it will be within walking distance of the new basketball arena and would be nice to walk and not worry about parking.
Slightly off topic but... Maybe I have not stayed in enough hotels to see the difference but I have never understood the one brand loyalty. I sort of have a loyalty now but that is connected to a card and points I have.

To me one hotel is basically the same as another. Just different names.

Now I am talking hotels, not cheap dirty motels type things.

To me a Hilton is the same as a Hyatt as a Holiday Inn, etc.

But this Hilton in Waco looks old and worn out. I have stayed in a few others in Waco (Indigo, Aloft, Home2Suites, etc.) that are newer and much nicer in terms of everything not being as worn out/worn down.
For me the one brand loyalty is mostly related to perks from status. It's nothing crazy, but when much of my travel is work related anyways why not. I especially like the room upgrades which don't happen as often as I like and late check outs. Having automatic free late check-out can be really nice though.
Agreed. My "loyalty" is towards Hilton just because of points that I get on the card I have. It is nice using them at a lot of different hotels in their chain.

I also have a free points system for Hyatt and IHG in case I stay at those for a work thing but my main one is Hilton.
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TXWayne said:

cowboycwr said:

TXWayne said:

When my son started at Baylor 10 years ago I was a Hyatt guy but since Waco had no Hyatt I converted over to Hilton and started staying there, been a Diamond member ever since. We try to stay at the Hilton for all the games and any other trip to Waco. Made a lot of friends from hanging out in the bar before and after games and have a lot of memories. After the women beat UConn Holly Rowe and crew hung out there.

With that said it is getting to be tired, as was noted it has not been update since 2008 and is showing the wear and tear. The main thing that has kept us there is the team stays there and the friends we have made that still stay there. I would like to see it updated as it will be within walking distance of the new basketball arena and would be nice to walk and not worry about parking.
Slightly off topic but... Maybe I have not stayed in enough hotels to see the difference but I have never understood the one brand loyalty. I sort of have a loyalty now but that is connected to a card and points I have.

To me one hotel is basically the same as another. Just different names.

Now I am talking hotels, not cheap dirty motels type things.

To me a Hilton is the same as a Hyatt as a Holiday Inn, etc.

But this Hilton in Waco looks old and worn out. I have stayed in a few others in Waco (Indigo, Aloft, Home2Suites, etc.) that are newer and much nicer in terms of everything not being as worn out/worn down.
Well it is about accruing points and things you get with status. However Hilton is diluting status, Diamond does not seem to mean much any more but the points are nice because I use them for free stays. But as I said before, the main thing that has been keeping me at the Waco Hilton was friends I have made over the years that stay there and the fact the football team stays there. To your point, it is old and worn out, and my loyalty to it is waning for several reasons and am flirting with Marriott these days.
If you don't want to stay at the Hilton there are several other Hilton brands in town.. not sure if any of them would be walking distance to the stadiums though without looking them up.
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cowboycwr said:

TXWayne said:

cowboycwr said:

TXWayne said:

When my son started at Baylor 10 years ago I was a Hyatt guy but since Waco had no Hyatt I converted over to Hilton and started staying there, been a Diamond member ever since. We try to stay at the Hilton for all the games and any other trip to Waco. Made a lot of friends from hanging out in the bar before and after games and have a lot of memories. After the women beat UConn Holly Rowe and crew hung out there.

With that said it is getting to be tired, as was noted it has not been update since 2008 and is showing the wear and tear. The main thing that has kept us there is the team stays there and the friends we have made that still stay there. I would like to see it updated as it will be within walking distance of the new basketball arena and would be nice to walk and not worry about parking.
Slightly off topic but... Maybe I have not stayed in enough hotels to see the difference but I have never understood the one brand loyalty. I sort of have a loyalty now but that is connected to a card and points I have.

To me one hotel is basically the same as another. Just different names.

Now I am talking hotels, not cheap dirty motels type things.

To me a Hilton is the same as a Hyatt as a Holiday Inn, etc.

But this Hilton in Waco looks old and worn out. I have stayed in a few others in Waco (Indigo, Aloft, Home2Suites, etc.) that are newer and much nicer in terms of everything not being as worn out/worn down.
Well it is about accruing points and things you get with status. However Hilton is diluting status, Diamond does not seem to mean much any more but the points are nice because I use them for free stays. But as I said before, the main thing that has been keeping me at the Waco Hilton was friends I have made over the years that stay there and the fact the football team stays there. To your point, it is old and worn out, and my loyalty to it is waning for several reasons and am flirting with Marriott these days.
If you don't want to stay at the Hilton there are several other Hilton brands in town.. not sure if any of them would be walking distance to the stadiums though without looking them up.
Absolutely, I have stayed at the Home2 Suites, Hampton North, Hampton South, Hilton Garden Inn, and Homewood Suites over the years. None have as good a location to getting over to football or soon to basketball. As of now I have the Hampton South booked for all the football games this fall because I could not get the rate I wanted at the Hilton but will keep looking. And as I said, part of the draw of the Hilton is the team staying there and friends we have made over the years staying there. It is acceptable for now.
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maybe an arby's themed suite?

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EnglishBear said:

Grinnin bear said:

I attended many call-in shows with Dave Roberts at the Damon's Restaurant in the Hilton. Good times... good times.
We rolled our eyes a lot.
... and we won a lot at sports trivia!

I'd do it again in a heartbeat. English Bear and Grinnin Bear's last ride!!!
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FirmBear24 said:

The Waco Hilton had a Damon's in it well before 2008. As a young kid, those 4 screens with sports was amazing. Can't remember what went in there in 2008.
I witnessed too many Kevin Steele shows at that place,,
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cowboycwr said:

TXWayne said:

cowboycwr said:

TXWayne said:

When my son started at Baylor 10 years ago I was a Hyatt guy but since Waco had no Hyatt I converted over to Hilton and started staying there, been a Diamond member ever since. We try to stay at the Hilton for all the games and any other trip to Waco. Made a lot of friends from hanging out in the bar before and after games and have a lot of memories. After the women beat UConn Holly Rowe and crew hung out there.

With that said it is getting to be tired, as was noted it has not been update since 2008 and is showing the wear and tear. The main thing that has kept us there is the team stays there and the friends we have made that still stay there. I would like to see it updated as it will be within walking distance of the new basketball arena and would be nice to walk and not worry about parking.
Slightly off topic but... Maybe I have not stayed in enough hotels to see the difference but I have never understood the one brand loyalty. I sort of have a loyalty now but that is connected to a card and points I have.

To me one hotel is basically the same as another. Just different names.

Now I am talking hotels, not cheap dirty motels type things.

To me a Hilton is the same as a Hyatt as a Holiday Inn, etc.

But this Hilton in Waco looks old and worn out. I have stayed in a few others in Waco (Indigo, Aloft, Home2Suites, etc.) that are newer and much nicer in terms of everything not being as worn out/worn down.
Well it is about accruing points and things you get with status. However Hilton is diluting status, Diamond does not seem to mean much any more but the points are nice because I use them for free stays. But as I said before, the main thing that has been keeping me at the Waco Hilton was friends I have made over the years that stay there and the fact the football team stays there. To your point, it is old and worn out, and my loyalty to it is waning for several reasons and am flirting with Marriott these days.
If you don't want to stay at the Hilton there are several other Hilton brands in town.. not sure if any of them would be walking distance to the stadiums though without looking them up.
Still not sure when it will be built, but Embassy Suites is still considering a downsized project for downtown Waco about equidistant from the Hilton and Embassy is a Hilton brand.



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Beardown1919 said:

Article in the Trib today outlining 6ish hotels coming online downtown over the next 18 +/- months. I think pretty much all of them should be walking distance from the arena which potentially would be cool.

https://wacotrib.com/news/local/groundbreaking-held-for-new-hyatt-place-in-downtown-waco/article_216df3ea-03db-11ee-9894-5fc4115d3bc6.html#tracking-source=home-top-story
that would be great...
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TXWayne said:

cowboycwr said:

TXWayne said:

When my son started at Baylor 10 years ago I was a Hyatt guy but since Waco had no Hyatt I converted over to Hilton and started staying there, been a Diamond member ever since. We try to stay at the Hilton for all the games and any other trip to Waco. Made a lot of friends from hanging out in the bar before and after games and have a lot of memories. After the women beat UConn Holly Rowe and crew hung out there.

With that said it is getting to be tired, as was noted it has not been update since 2008 and is showing the wear and tear. The main thing that has kept us there is the team stays there and the friends we have made that still stay there. I would like to see it updated as it will be within walking distance of the new basketball arena and would be nice to walk and not worry about parking.
Slightly off topic but... Maybe I have not stayed in enough hotels to see the difference but I have never understood the one brand loyalty. I sort of have a loyalty now but that is connected to a card and points I have.

To me one hotel is basically the same as another. Just different names.

Now I am talking hotels, not cheap dirty motels type things.

To me a Hilton is the same as a Hyatt as a Holiday Inn, etc.

But this Hilton in Waco looks old and worn out. I have stayed in a few others in Waco (Indigo, Aloft, Home2Suites, etc.) that are newer and much nicer in terms of everything not being as worn out/worn down.
Well it is about accruing points and things you get with status. However Hilton is diluting status, Diamond does not seem to mean much any more but the points are nice because I use them for free stays. But as I said before, the main thing that has been keeping me at the Waco Hilton was friends I have made over the years that stay there and the fact the football team stays there. To your point, it is old and worn out, and my loyalty to it is waning for several reasons and am flirting with Marriott these days.
When I traveled for my previous jobs, I stayed loyal to the Marriott brand. I achieved lifetime Titanium status, which I think is the same as their old Platinum status. I don't travel much any more, but I still enjoy the status when I stay at a Marriott property. When staying at a Marriott, JW Marriott etc. I get free breakfast for two, concierge lounge access, free room upgrades and free late check-outs. They are lenient if I have to cancel a reservation when it's past the cancellation date and I can typically get a room if the hotel is "full". I also get complimentary Silver Status on United without flying a single mile with them. It does come in handy the few times I do fly.


Funny story, I booked a room for my son who is now 22 who we named after me. When he checked in, they told him he was a little young to have lifetime Titanium status. He laughed and said it's my dad's.
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