True but it isn't always that simple to "just get another job." In any industry. I have known people that have spent months looking for another job but cannot find one. I have personally been in that spot where I wanted another job, kept applying and was unable to find another one (that didn't require a massive pay cut, relocation, etc.).Coyote Bear said:Marlin3030 said:
From what was said, the VATRE only provided 3 million dollars which is significantly less than what was originally stated.
Also a good portion has been spent on this year's salaries already. The way it's being said makes it sound like they're just shuffling money around.
But a 2% raise is comical, just don't give a raise if that's all you can do.
How is a raise comical? Sometimes the numbers allow what it allows. The entitlement is ridiculous. If you are an MISD teacher and you don't like your raise, no one is handcuffing you and that goes for every job and every industry.
Midway is at or near the bottom of those select schools.Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
40 years ago I looked around for my first teaching job and was surprised to find Midway was one of the lowest paying district in the county. Temple, Waco and McGregor all paid a chunk more. I didnt talk to any others but was told Midway was the lowest. The logic was at that time teachers were willing to be paid less for getting to work in the best school in the county.
Now when I read what you said bout teachers leaving Midway taking a pay cut I didnt believe it. Midway is still a good district IMO, but it isnt head and shoulders over the rest. Houston pays a lot more. Schools in McLennan county also pay more. Midway is at or near the bottom.
District
'21-'22 starting pay
'22-'23 starting pay
Waco ISD
$50,250
$51,475
Temple ISD
$50,900
$52,500
Midway ISD
$46,100
$47,100
Belton ISD
$51,400
$53,500
Killeen ISD
$52,000
$56,160
Copperas Cove ISD
$50,000
$53,000
https://www.niche.com/k12/search/best-places-to-teach/c/mclennan-county-tx/
I completely understand, I teach now in Grand Prairie. I gave up a job in HR where I made 150K to go back to teaching, I love it. The pay cut is worth it now that I do not have to deal with 2AM phone calls and unruly employees. Sure I have less money, but I am 100 times happier.SteamedHams said:
My wife taught in WISD and then Midway, and she'd sooner take a nap at the bottom of the Brazos than ever teach at WISD again. It was a miserable, miserable existence. Even though she took a 2% pay cut to go to Midway, her quality of life octupled on day one and never looked back.
I agree with everything except the part about foreign languages. We have not replaced those with any grievance based studies. Keep in mind the state dictates what students have to have to graduate. If I don't teach what state provides my test scores will not be good. I've said it before, want to find a woke teacher look at their test scores, if they are consistently bad you know. The amount spent at Athletics and Admin is mind boggling. We also have been given unfunded mandates by the state that have to be fulfilled at district expense. The result is less and less spent in classroom and on actual education. One way to improve education is to get more highly qualified individuals in the classroom, only way to do that is increase pay. Yes some money could be moved around. I get a bit frustrated because I think public schools get blamed for a lot in Texas, some deserved but not all. Inner city schools give us all a bad name. We need leaders who are going to come up with real solutions, not rhetoric. Lot of good things happening in Texas, but we need to focus on public schools. We will be even better with an educated work force. I love teaching. It's my calling, but so many issues to deal with.Harrison Bergeron said:
My wife is a teacher (not at Midway). My quick thoughts:
- Agree the athletic spending is crazy ... some Texas high schools have nicer facilities than the Buffalo Bills or former Oakland Raiders
- Like other institutions, the amount of school administrators has exploded - the number of counselors and assistance principals continue to grow
- The Administrative bureaucracy has exploded - lots of people making high six figures working at Central Admin that add zero value
- Traditional classes like foreign languages have been replaced by grievance studies, which are pointless
As noted earlier, no one spends more and gets less than American public schools.
Glad to hear. Using public schools as political tools is maybe the single biggest challenge to our kids' success outside of the insane growth of athletics-administration.chrisbyrum said:I agree with everything except the part about foreign languages. We have not replaced those with any grievance based studies. Keep in mind the state dictates what students have to have to graduate. If I don't teach what state provides my test scores will not be good. I've said it before, want to find a woke teacher look at their test scores, if they are consistently bad you know. The amount spent at Athletics and Admin is mind boggling. We also have been given unfunded mandates by the state that have to be fulfilled at district expense. The result is less and less spent in classroom and on actual education. One way to improve education is to get more highly qualified individuals in the classroom, only way to do that is increase pay. Yes some money could be moved around. I get a bit frustrated because I think public schools get blamed for a lot in Texas, some deserved but not all. Inner city schools give us all a bad name. We need leaders who are going to come up with real solutions, not rhetoric. Lot of good things happening in Texas, but we need to focus on public schools. We will be even better with an educated work force. I love teaching. It's my calling, but so many issues to deal with.Harrison Bergeron said:
My wife is a teacher (not at Midway). My quick thoughts:
- Agree the athletic spending is crazy ... some Texas high schools have nicer facilities than the Buffalo Bills or former Oakland Raiders
- Like other institutions, the amount of school administrators has exploded - the number of counselors and assistance principals continue to grow
- The Administrative bureaucracy has exploded - lots of people making high six figures working at Central Admin that add zero value
- Traditional classes like foreign languages have been replaced by grievance studies, which are pointless
As noted earlier, no one spends more and gets less than American public schools.
Harrison Bergeron said:Glad to hear. Using public schools as political tools is maybe the single biggest challenge to our kids' success outside of the insane growth of athletics-administration.chrisbyrum said:I agree with everything except the part about foreign languages. We have not replaced those with any grievance based studies. Keep in mind the state dictates what students have to have to graduate. If I don't teach what state provides my test scores will not be good. I've said it before, want to find a woke teacher look at their test scores, if they are consistently bad you know. The amount spent at Athletics and Admin is mind boggling. We also have been given unfunded mandates by the state that have to be fulfilled at district expense. The result is less and less spent in classroom and on actual education. One way to improve education is to get more highly qualified individuals in the classroom, only way to do that is increase pay. Yes some money could be moved around. I get a bit frustrated because I think public schools get blamed for a lot in Texas, some deserved but not all. Inner city schools give us all a bad name. We need leaders who are going to come up with real solutions, not rhetoric. Lot of good things happening in Texas, but we need to focus on public schools. We will be even better with an educated work force. I love teaching. It's my calling, but so many issues to deal with.Harrison Bergeron said:
My wife is a teacher (not at Midway). My quick thoughts:
- Agree the athletic spending is crazy ... some Texas high schools have nicer facilities than the Buffalo Bills or former Oakland Raiders
- Like other institutions, the amount of school administrators has exploded - the number of counselors and assistance principals continue to grow
- The Administrative bureaucracy has exploded - lots of people making high six figures working at Central Admin that add zero value
- Traditional classes like foreign languages have been replaced by grievance studies, which are pointless
As noted earlier, no one spends more and gets less than American public schools.
Seems like the further schools move their focus from educating students to indoctrination, academic scores suffer.
Not sure if you face this, but Mrs. HB also spends insane amounts of time "accommodating" so many students ... everything from arbitrary racial quotas to basic inability to take tests. The inmates' parents' continue to run the asylum.
The whole woke teacher thing is the biggest myth in the world, particularly in Texas. We have to teach what the state says to teach. No foreign language has been replaced in McLennan County. If fact, students have to have so many credits in many different areas to graduate.Harrison Bergeron said:
My wife is a teacher (not at Midway). My quick thoughts:
- Agree the athletic spending is crazy ... some Texas high schools have nicer facilities than the Buffalo Bills or former Oakland Raiders
- Like other institutions, the amount of school administrators has exploded - the number of counselors and assistance principals continue to grow
- The Administrative bureaucracy has exploded - lots of people making high six figures working at Central Admin that add zero value
- Traditional classes like foreign languages have been replaced by grievance studies, which are pointless
As noted earlier, no one spends more and gets less than American public schools.
Just curious what you mean by racial quotas for the classroom?Harrison Bergeron said:Glad to hear. Using public schools as political tools is maybe the single biggest challenge to our kids' success outside of the insane growth of athletics-administration.chrisbyrum said:I agree with everything except the part about foreign languages. We have not replaced those with any grievance based studies. Keep in mind the state dictates what students have to have to graduate. If I don't teach what state provides my test scores will not be good. I've said it before, want to find a woke teacher look at their test scores, if they are consistently bad you know. The amount spent at Athletics and Admin is mind boggling. We also have been given unfunded mandates by the state that have to be fulfilled at district expense. The result is less and less spent in classroom and on actual education. One way to improve education is to get more highly qualified individuals in the classroom, only way to do that is increase pay. Yes some money could be moved around. I get a bit frustrated because I think public schools get blamed for a lot in Texas, some deserved but not all. Inner city schools give us all a bad name. We need leaders who are going to come up with real solutions, not rhetoric. Lot of good things happening in Texas, but we need to focus on public schools. We will be even better with an educated work force. I love teaching. It's my calling, but so many issues to deal with.Harrison Bergeron said:
My wife is a teacher (not at Midway). My quick thoughts:
- Agree the athletic spending is crazy ... some Texas high schools have nicer facilities than the Buffalo Bills or former Oakland Raiders
- Like other institutions, the amount of school administrators has exploded - the number of counselors and assistance principals continue to grow
- The Administrative bureaucracy has exploded - lots of people making high six figures working at Central Admin that add zero value
- Traditional classes like foreign languages have been replaced by grievance studies, which are pointless
As noted earlier, no one spends more and gets less than American public schools.
Seems like the further schools move their focus from educating students to indoctrination, academic scores suffer.
Not sure if you face this, but Mrs. HB also spends insane amounts of time "accommodating" so many students ... everything from arbitrary racial quotas to basic inability to take tests. The inmates' parents' continue to run the asylum.
Well said.chrisbyrum said:Harrison Bergeron said:Glad to hear. Using public schools as political tools is maybe the single biggest challenge to our kids' success outside of the insane growth of athletics-administration.chrisbyrum said:I agree with everything except the part about foreign languages. We have not replaced those with any grievance based studies. Keep in mind the state dictates what students have to have to graduate. If I don't teach what state provides my test scores will not be good. I've said it before, want to find a woke teacher look at their test scores, if they are consistently bad you know. The amount spent at Athletics and Admin is mind boggling. We also have been given unfunded mandates by the state that have to be fulfilled at district expense. The result is less and less spent in classroom and on actual education. One way to improve education is to get more highly qualified individuals in the classroom, only way to do that is increase pay. Yes some money could be moved around. I get a bit frustrated because I think public schools get blamed for a lot in Texas, some deserved but not all. Inner city schools give us all a bad name. We need leaders who are going to come up with real solutions, not rhetoric. Lot of good things happening in Texas, but we need to focus on public schools. We will be even better with an educated work force. I love teaching. It's my calling, but so many issues to deal with.Harrison Bergeron said:
My wife is a teacher (not at Midway). My quick thoughts:
- Agree the athletic spending is crazy ... some Texas high schools have nicer facilities than the Buffalo Bills or former Oakland Raiders
- Like other institutions, the amount of school administrators has exploded - the number of counselors and assistance principals continue to grow
- The Administrative bureaucracy has exploded - lots of people making high six figures working at Central Admin that add zero value
- Traditional classes like foreign languages have been replaced by grievance studies, which are pointless
As noted earlier, no one spends more and gets less than American public schools.
Seems like the further schools move their focus from educating students to indoctrination, academic scores suffer.
Not sure if you face this, but Mrs. HB also spends insane amounts of time "accommodating" so many students ... everything from arbitrary racial quotas to basic inability to take tests. The inmates' parents' continue to run the asylum.
I don't deal with any racial quotas(that I am aware of). I do have accommodations to deal with and the amount of testing we do is insane. I think we spend 30 days a year just testing. I really don't have parent issues and I am not sure why honestly. But I am amazed at when a parent will send me an email saying we have just decided to go away for two weeks. Can you send me all their assignments. I get taking a trip and I do plan ahead so I can send assignments. Rarely do they get completed. Then the kid is behind and struggling to pass. Then they ask me why is my kid failing.
My opinion. But for the most part public education is still decent. But tons of room for improvement. But we need government officials who are serious about it and look at it fairly. The politics over public education needs to end. But I know better.
We need to go back to teaching.
False.Jackson Bear said:The whole woke teacher thing is the biggest myth in the world, particularly in Texas. We have to teach what the state says to teach. No foreign language has been replaced in McLennan County. If fact, students have to have so many credits in many different areas to graduate.Harrison Bergeron said:
My wife is a teacher (not at Midway). My quick thoughts:
- Agree the athletic spending is crazy ... some Texas high schools have nicer facilities than the Buffalo Bills or former Oakland Raiders
- Like other institutions, the amount of school administrators has exploded - the number of counselors and assistance principals continue to grow
- The Administrative bureaucracy has exploded - lots of people making high six figures working at Central Admin that add zero value
- Traditional classes like foreign languages have been replaced by grievance studies, which are pointless
As noted earlier, no one spends more and gets less than American public schools.
They are definitely there, but groups do a good job of making news out of the few there are. I can tell you in my school less than 10% of Teachers are a member of any teacher organization, Most teachers play by the rules, and we are still political pawns because of the few who don't.cowboycwr said:False.Jackson Bear said:The whole woke teacher thing is the biggest myth in the world, particularly in Texas. We have to teach what the state says to teach. No foreign language has been replaced in McLennan County. If fact, students have to have so many credits in many different areas to graduate.Harrison Bergeron said:
My wife is a teacher (not at Midway). My quick thoughts:
- Agree the athletic spending is crazy ... some Texas high schools have nicer facilities than the Buffalo Bills or former Oakland Raiders
- Like other institutions, the amount of school administrators has exploded - the number of counselors and assistance principals continue to grow
- The Administrative bureaucracy has exploded - lots of people making high six figures working at Central Admin that add zero value
- Traditional classes like foreign languages have been replaced by grievance studies, which are pointless
As noted earlier, no one spends more and gets less than American public schools.
There are plenty of examples of woke teachers on any of the social media platforms, news stories, etc. IN TEXAS.
And it also depends on if any of the students in the class or administration catch on to a teacher not teaching what the state says teach.
I overheard a fellow teacher once claiming that all the red areas on the map were uneducated white rednecks with racist views.
I have also overheard a teacher teach that the south won the civil war. That the north was the one for slavery.
I have also seen teachers do the old school 80s or 90s thing of teach what they want, hand out worksheets and sit on their phone. Granted it was a non tested subject where the admin never visited because all the focus was on raising that school's test scores.
But we could post a ton of videos of liberal, woke, (or whatever term you want to use) teachers in Texas.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/texas-teacher-bragging-indoctrinating-youth-interrogates-middle-school-kids-nonbinary-identity
https://texasscorecard.com/local/austin-elementary-school-teacher-brags-about-sexualizing-students/
And those are just two examples.
