If JTT hadn't been hurt, I'd agree with this article because everyone else is getting healthy and right as we close out the regular season.historian said:
https://247sports.com/college/baylor/LongFormArticle/College-basketball-10-most-dangerous-teams-entering-March-Madness-183019874/
bear2be2 said:If JTT hadn't been hurt, I'd agree with this article because everyone else is getting healthy and right as we close out the regular season.historian said:
https://247sports.com/college/baylor/LongFormArticle/College-basketball-10-most-dangerous-teams-entering-March-Madness-183019874/
But without Jon, I think we're closer to a Sweet Sixteen team than a Final Four threat. Hopefully these guys will prove me wrong.
What narrative is that? That Gonzaga is really good?BellCountyBear said:
Geez, what a tired narrative re: Gonzaga. Russia collusion!!
Schedule.bear2be2 said:What narrative is that? That Gonzaga is really good?BellCountyBear said:
Geez, what a tired narrative re: Gonzaga. Russia collusion!!
Gonzaga has made the tournament 22 straight times, has advanced to at least the round of 32 every year since 2009, has reached at least the Sweet Sixteen every year since 2015 and has played in two national title games since 2017.
This board's hard-on for Gonzaga is really, really strange.
They play the best schedule they can. They don't choose what conference they're in. All they can do is load up the nonconference schedule, which they do every year.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Schedule.bear2be2 said:What narrative is that? That Gonzaga is really good?BellCountyBear said:
Geez, what a tired narrative re: Gonzaga. Russia collusion!!
Gonzaga has made the tournament 22 straight times, has advanced to at least the round of 32 every year since 2009, has reached at least the Sweet Sixteen every year since 2015 and has played in two national title games since 2017.
This board's hard-on for Gonzaga is really, really strange.
Everyone understands that. You don't think they know that every conference loss impacts their seeding?historian said:
And since Gonzaga wins those non conference games in the Fall, they get a good seed for the tournament. But there record in January & February can not compare to the best P5 teams because they don't play anybody of the same level.
And Gonzaga, in turn, would likely say it must be nice to lose seven conference games and still be a No. 3 seed ... as we did in 2015.Stefano DiMera said:
That's the point I was trying to make the other night.
Not a Gonzaga hater.
I was just pissed off after watching us get worked over in Lubbock and the next game was Gonzaga and their regularly scheduled cupcake. The grind us and others have to go through is not comparable.
Same reason I didn't think Cincinnati was one of the 4 best football teams.
The super competitive conference like the Big 12 is this year is a double-edged sword: the physical wear and tear can break a good team down with injuries effectively killing their chances for a deep run. Having a weak conference, can help an elite team by allowing them to rest hurting players without the fearing of taking a loss, but can also leave them unprepared for the level of play they are going to see at some point in the NCAA tourney. If the conference affiliations of Baylor and Gonzaga, were reversed the past 14 years, BU would have more conference titles...would we have an NC?Stefano DiMera said:
That's the point I was trying to make the other night.
Not a Gonzaga hater.
I was just pissed off after watching us get worked over in Lubbock and the next game was Gonzaga and their regularly scheduled cupcake. The grind us and others have to go through is not comparable.
Same reason I didn't think Cincinnati was one of the 4 best football teams.
If we had a team good enough to win one. Last year, Gonzaga was good enough to beat every team in the country but us coming out of the WCC.TWD 74 said:The super competitive conference like the Big 12 is this year is a double-edged sword: the physical wear and tear can break a good team down with injuries effectively killing their chances for a deep run. Having a weak conference, can help an elite team by allowing them to rest hurting players without the fearing of taking a loss, but can also leave them unprepared for the level of play they are going to see at some point in the NCAA tourney. If the conference affiliations of Baylor and Gonzaga, were reversed the past 14 years, BU would have more conference titles...would we have an NC?Stefano DiMera said:
That's the point I was trying to make the other night.
Not a Gonzaga hater.
I was just pissed off after watching us get worked over in Lubbock and the next game was Gonzaga and their regularly scheduled cupcake. The grind us and others have to go through is not comparable.
Same reason I didn't think Cincinnati was one of the 4 best football teams.
TWD 74 said:The super competitive conference like the Big 12 is this year is a double-edged sword: the physical wear and tear can break a good team down with injuries effectively killing their chances for a deep run. Having a weak conference, can help an elite team by allowing them to rest hurting players without the fearing of taking a loss, but can also leave them unprepared for the level of play they are going to see at some point in the NCAA tourney. If the conference affiliations of Baylor and Gonzaga, were reversed the past 14 years, BU would have more conference titles...would we have an NC?Stefano DiMera said:
That's the point I was trying to make the other night.
Not a Gonzaga hater.
I was just pissed off after watching us get worked over in Lubbock and the next game was Gonzaga and their regularly scheduled cupcake. The grind us and others have to go through is not comparable.
Same reason I didn't think Cincinnati was one of the 4 best football teams.
https://sports.betmgm.com/en/blog/college-basketball-ncaa-tournament-quadrant-1-wins/bear2be2 said:They play the best schedule they can. They don't choose what conference they're in. All they can do is load up the nonconference schedule, which they do every year.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Schedule.bear2be2 said:What narrative is that? That Gonzaga is really good?BellCountyBear said:
Geez, what a tired narrative re: Gonzaga. Russia collusion!!
Gonzaga has made the tournament 22 straight times, has advanced to at least the round of 32 every year since 2009, has reached at least the Sweet Sixteen every year since 2015 and has played in two national title games since 2017.
This board's hard-on for Gonzaga is really, really strange.
This is a really tired, and frankly stupid argument. If their seeding was inflated, it would show in the tournament. Instead, Gonzaga has the best tournament record of any team in the country for going on a decade now.Method Man said:https://sports.betmgm.com/en/blog/college-basketball-ncaa-tournament-quadrant-1-wins/bear2be2 said:They play the best schedule they can. They don't choose what conference they're in. All they can do is load up the nonconference schedule, which they do every year.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Schedule.bear2be2 said:What narrative is that? That Gonzaga is really good?BellCountyBear said:
Geez, what a tired narrative re: Gonzaga. Russia collusion!!
Gonzaga has made the tournament 22 straight times, has advanced to at least the round of 32 every year since 2009, has reached at least the Sweet Sixteen every year since 2015 and has played in two national title games since 2017.
This board's hard-on for Gonzaga is really, really strange.
Gonzaga has 9 wins over Quad 1 and 2 teams....we have 14.
At this point in the season 9 isn't that many.
Gonzaga plays cupcakes for 3 months and in turn gets an inflated seeding in the NCAA tournament. During that 3 months when they are killing teams with no NBA talent the media inflates how good they actually are.
The media does this because they are desperate to promote a West Coast version of Duke.
Should have clarified. The very best of coaching staffs can often struggle to prepare a young and talented team for what they have yet to encounter on the court (think of our freshmen this year and their first experience of Big 12 play). From my perspective, Gonzaga's young guards did not appear prepared for the speed of Mitchell, et al... Gonzaga fans can well wonder if the two teams had played earlier in the season as planned, the title game may have played out differently.EvilTroyAndAbed said:TWD 74 said:The super competitive conference like the Big 12 is this year is a double-edged sword: the physical wear and tear can break a good team down with injuries effectively killing their chances for a deep run. Having a weak conference, can help an elite team by allowing them to rest hurting players without the fearing of taking a loss, but can also leave them unprepared for the level of play they are going to see at some point in the NCAA tourney. If the conference affiliations of Baylor and Gonzaga, were reversed the past 14 years, BU would have more conference titles...would we have an NC?Stefano DiMera said:
That's the point I was trying to make the other night.
Not a Gonzaga hater.
I was just pissed off after watching us get worked over in Lubbock and the next game was Gonzaga and their regularly scheduled cupcake. The grind us and others have to go through is not comparable.
Same reason I didn't think Cincinnati was one of the 4 best football teams.
Unprepared? They've been in two national championships in the past five years. The reason we beat them last year wasn't because they were unprepared. We were just a generational team who was playing their best ball.
It would be one thing if they were always a 1 seed and kept losing in the 32 or 16 rounds. But they've proven their selves worthy of their ranking.
Don't hate the player, hate the game.......Method Man said:https://sports.betmgm.com/en/blog/college-basketball-ncaa-tournament-quadrant-1-wins/bear2be2 said:They play the best schedule they can. They don't choose what conference they're in. All they can do is load up the nonconference schedule, which they do every year.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Schedule.bear2be2 said:What narrative is that? That Gonzaga is really good?BellCountyBear said:
Geez, what a tired narrative re: Gonzaga. Russia collusion!!
Gonzaga has made the tournament 22 straight times, has advanced to at least the round of 32 every year since 2009, has reached at least the Sweet Sixteen every year since 2015 and has played in two national title games since 2017.
This board's hard-on for Gonzaga is really, really strange.
Gonzaga has 9 wins over Quad 1 and 2 teams....we have 14.
At this point in the season 9 isn't that many.
Gonzaga plays cupcakes for 3 months and in turn gets an inflated seeding in the NCAA tournament. During that 3 months when they are killing teams with no NBA talent the media inflates how good they actually are.
The media does this because they are desperate to promote a West Coast version of Duke.
Bear2BE,bear2be2 said:This is a really tired, and frankly stupid argument. If their seeding was inflated, it would show in the tournament. Instead, Gonzaga has the best tournament record of any team in the country for going on a decade now.Method Man said:https://sports.betmgm.com/en/blog/college-basketball-ncaa-tournament-quadrant-1-wins/bear2be2 said:They play the best schedule they can. They don't choose what conference they're in. All they can do is load up the nonconference schedule, which they do every year.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Schedule.bear2be2 said:What narrative is that? That Gonzaga is really good?BellCountyBear said:
Geez, what a tired narrative re: Gonzaga. Russia collusion!!
Gonzaga has made the tournament 22 straight times, has advanced to at least the round of 32 every year since 2009, has reached at least the Sweet Sixteen every year since 2015 and has played in two national title games since 2017.
This board's hard-on for Gonzaga is really, really strange.
Gonzaga has 9 wins over Quad 1 and 2 teams....we have 14.
At this point in the season 9 isn't that many.
Gonzaga plays cupcakes for 3 months and in turn gets an inflated seeding in the NCAA tournament. During that 3 months when they are killing teams with no NBA talent the media inflates how good they actually are.
The media does this because they are desperate to promote a West Coast version of Duke.
And nine wins over Quad 1 and 2 teams is the same number Duke has and one fewer than Kentucky, and no one *****es about their schedules.
Gonzaga plays one of the best nonconference schedules in the country every year, wins most of those games, and then goes to the tournament in March and gets to the Sweet 16 in "bad" years. This idea that that program is somehow overrated is beyond silly.
Ignorance is bliss, I guess.Method Man said:Bear2BE,bear2be2 said:This is a really tired, and frankly stupid argument. If their seeding was inflated, it would show in the tournament. Instead, Gonzaga has the best tournament record of any team in the country for going on a decade now.Method Man said:https://sports.betmgm.com/en/blog/college-basketball-ncaa-tournament-quadrant-1-wins/bear2be2 said:They play the best schedule they can. They don't choose what conference they're in. All they can do is load up the nonconference schedule, which they do every year.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Schedule.bear2be2 said:What narrative is that? That Gonzaga is really good?BellCountyBear said:
Geez, what a tired narrative re: Gonzaga. Russia collusion!!
Gonzaga has made the tournament 22 straight times, has advanced to at least the round of 32 every year since 2009, has reached at least the Sweet Sixteen every year since 2015 and has played in two national title games since 2017.
This board's hard-on for Gonzaga is really, really strange.
Gonzaga has 9 wins over Quad 1 and 2 teams....we have 14.
At this point in the season 9 isn't that many.
Gonzaga plays cupcakes for 3 months and in turn gets an inflated seeding in the NCAA tournament. During that 3 months when they are killing teams with no NBA talent the media inflates how good they actually are.
The media does this because they are desperate to promote a West Coast version of Duke.
And nine wins over Quad 1 and 2 teams is the same number Duke has and one fewer than Kentucky, and no one *****es about their schedules.
Gonzaga plays one of the best nonconference schedules in the country every year, wins most of those games, and then goes to the tournament in March and gets to the Sweet 16 in "bad" years. This idea that that program is somehow overrated is beyond silly.
Frankly......
What we get tired of is people like you sucking Gonzaga's d****.
I could go on and on...but I'm not. The media is very complicit in overhyping Gonzaga because of the type of players they recruit.
College basketball teams typically aren't that great in November and December. Big difference playing good non conference teams in November than it is in February or March.
Elite teams in the BIG East and Conference USA teams play much harder schedules than Gonzaga.
Gonzaga overall record, and thus seeding is always inflated by the lack of opponent they play for three months.
I wouldn't really care....until I have to listen to the media tell me this program (with zero national titles and 2 Final Fours) is the best thing since sliced bread.
No one we played was prepared for Mitchell, Butler and Teague.TWD 74 said:Should have clarified. The very best of coaching staffs can often struggle to prepare a young and talented team for what they have yet to encounter on the court (think of our freshmen this year and their first experience of Big 12 play). From my perspective, Gonzaga's young guards did not appear prepared for the speed of Mitchell, et al... Gonzaga fans can well wonder if the two teams had played earlier in the season as planned, the title game may have played out differently.EvilTroyAndAbed said:TWD 74 said:The super competitive conference like the Big 12 is this year is a double-edged sword: the physical wear and tear can break a good team down with injuries effectively killing their chances for a deep run. Having a weak conference, can help an elite team by allowing them to rest hurting players without the fearing of taking a loss, but can also leave them unprepared for the level of play they are going to see at some point in the NCAA tourney. If the conference affiliations of Baylor and Gonzaga, were reversed the past 14 years, BU would have more conference titles...would we have an NC?Stefano DiMera said:
That's the point I was trying to make the other night.
Not a Gonzaga hater.
I was just pissed off after watching us get worked over in Lubbock and the next game was Gonzaga and their regularly scheduled cupcake. The grind us and others have to go through is not comparable.
Same reason I didn't think Cincinnati was one of the 4 best football teams.
Unprepared? They've been in two national championships in the past five years. The reason we beat them last year wasn't because they were unprepared. We were just a generational team who was playing their best ball.
It would be one thing if they were always a 1 seed and kept losing in the 32 or 16 rounds. But they've proven their selves worthy of their ranking.
Nothing but respect for Gonzaga. Great program, and their fans are infinitely less annoying than Jayhawks or Longhorns.
Method Man said:Bear2BE,bear2be2 said:This is a really tired, and frankly stupid argument. If their seeding was inflated, it would show in the tournament. Instead, Gonzaga has the best tournament record of any team in the country for going on a decade now.Method Man said:https://sports.betmgm.com/en/blog/college-basketball-ncaa-tournament-quadrant-1-wins/bear2be2 said:They play the best schedule they can. They don't choose what conference they're in. All they can do is load up the nonconference schedule, which they do every year.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Schedule.bear2be2 said:What narrative is that? That Gonzaga is really good?BellCountyBear said:
Geez, what a tired narrative re: Gonzaga. Russia collusion!!
Gonzaga has made the tournament 22 straight times, has advanced to at least the round of 32 every year since 2009, has reached at least the Sweet Sixteen every year since 2015 and has played in two national title games since 2017.
This board's hard-on for Gonzaga is really, really strange.
Gonzaga has 9 wins over Quad 1 and 2 teams....we have 14.
At this point in the season 9 isn't that many.
Gonzaga plays cupcakes for 3 months and in turn gets an inflated seeding in the NCAA tournament. During that 3 months when they are killing teams with no NBA talent the media inflates how good they actually are.
The media does this because they are desperate to promote a West Coast version of Duke.
And nine wins over Quad 1 and 2 teams is the same number Duke has and one fewer than Kentucky, and no one *****es about their schedules.
Gonzaga plays one of the best nonconference schedules in the country every year, wins most of those games, and then goes to the tournament in March and gets to the Sweet 16 in "bad" years. This idea that that program is somehow overrated is beyond silly.
Frankly......
What we get tired of is people like you sucking Gonzaga's d****.
I could go on and on...but I'm not. The media is very complicit in overhyping Gonzaga because of the type of players they recruit.
College basketball teams typically aren't that great in November and December. Big difference playing good non conference teams in November than it is in February or March.
Elite teams in the BIG East and Conference USA teams play much harder schedules than Gonzaga.
Gonzaga overall record, and thus seeding is always inflated by the lack of opponents they play for three months.
I wouldn't really care....until I have to listen to the media tell me this program (with zero national titles and 2 Final Fours) is the best thing since sliced bread.
He's also making the illogical argument that Gonzaga would somehow be at an advantage in November and December matchups against top competition, which makes no sense.EvilTroyAndAbed said:Actually they have two championship games. You're literally discounting two semifinal wins over the best teams in the nation.Method Man said:Bear2BE,bear2be2 said:This is a really tired, and frankly stupid argument. If their seeding was inflated, it would show in the tournament. Instead, Gonzaga has the best tournament record of any team in the country for going on a decade now.Method Man said:https://sports.betmgm.com/en/blog/college-basketball-ncaa-tournament-quadrant-1-wins/bear2be2 said:They play the best schedule they can. They don't choose what conference they're in. All they can do is load up the nonconference schedule, which they do every year.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Schedule.bear2be2 said:What narrative is that? That Gonzaga is really good?BellCountyBear said:
Geez, what a tired narrative re: Gonzaga. Russia collusion!!
Gonzaga has made the tournament 22 straight times, has advanced to at least the round of 32 every year since 2009, has reached at least the Sweet Sixteen every year since 2015 and has played in two national title games since 2017.
This board's hard-on for Gonzaga is really, really strange.
Gonzaga has 9 wins over Quad 1 and 2 teams....we have 14.
At this point in the season 9 isn't that many.
Gonzaga plays cupcakes for 3 months and in turn gets an inflated seeding in the NCAA tournament. During that 3 months when they are killing teams with no NBA talent the media inflates how good they actually are.
The media does this because they are desperate to promote a West Coast version of Duke.
And nine wins over Quad 1 and 2 teams is the same number Duke has and one fewer than Kentucky, and no one *****es about their schedules.
Gonzaga plays one of the best nonconference schedules in the country every year, wins most of those games, and then goes to the tournament in March and gets to the Sweet 16 in "bad" years. This idea that that program is somehow overrated is beyond silly.
Frankly......
What we get tired of is people like you sucking Gonzaga's d****.
I could go on and on...but I'm not. The media is very complicit in overhyping Gonzaga because of the type of players they recruit.
College basketball teams typically aren't that great in November and December. Big difference playing good non conference teams in November than it is in February or March.
Elite teams in the BIG East and Conference USA teams play much harder schedules than Gonzaga.
Gonzaga overall record, and thus seeding is always inflated by the lack of opponents they play for three months.
I wouldn't really care....until I have to listen to the media tell me this program (with zero national titles and 2 Final Fours) is the best thing since sliced bread.
I think this is kind of right in other years. Gonzaga has been really good for a long time but before 2021 I do think the lack of comp in their conference hurt them a little when play got really physical but they still did play in two title games.TWD 74 said:Should have clarified. The very best of coaching staffs can often struggle to prepare a young and talented team for what they have yet to encounter on the court (think of our freshmen this year and their first experience of Big 12 play). From my perspective, Gonzaga's young guards did not appear prepared for the speed of Mitchell, et al... Gonzaga fans can well wonder if the two teams had played earlier in the season as planned, the title game may have played out differently.EvilTroyAndAbed said:TWD 74 said:The super competitive conference like the Big 12 is this year is a double-edged sword: the physical wear and tear can break a good team down with injuries effectively killing their chances for a deep run. Having a weak conference, can help an elite team by allowing them to rest hurting players without the fearing of taking a loss, but can also leave them unprepared for the level of play they are going to see at some point in the NCAA tourney. If the conference affiliations of Baylor and Gonzaga, were reversed the past 14 years, BU would have more conference titles...would we have an NC?Stefano DiMera said:
That's the point I was trying to make the other night.
Not a Gonzaga hater.
I was just pissed off after watching us get worked over in Lubbock and the next game was Gonzaga and their regularly scheduled cupcake. The grind us and others have to go through is not comparable.
Same reason I didn't think Cincinnati was one of the 4 best football teams.
Unprepared? They've been in two national championships in the past five years. The reason we beat them last year wasn't because they were unprepared. We were just a generational team who was playing their best ball.
It would be one thing if they were always a 1 seed and kept losing in the 32 or 16 rounds. But they've proven their selves worthy of their ranking.
Nothing but respect for Gonzaga. Great program, and their fans are infinitely less annoying than Jayhawks or Longhorns.
I think that argument could be fairly made before the 2014-15 season, but Gonzaga transitioned from a really good mid-major program to one of the nation's elite programs that year and has been ever since.Quinton said:I think this is kind of right in other years. Gonzaga has been really good for a long time but before 2021 I do think the lack of comp in their conference hurt them a little when play got really physical but they still did play in two title games.TWD 74 said:Should have clarified. The very best of coaching staffs can often struggle to prepare a young and talented team for what they have yet to encounter on the court (think of our freshmen this year and their first experience of Big 12 play). From my perspective, Gonzaga's young guards did not appear prepared for the speed of Mitchell, et al... Gonzaga fans can well wonder if the two teams had played earlier in the season as planned, the title game may have played out differently.EvilTroyAndAbed said:TWD 74 said:The super competitive conference like the Big 12 is this year is a double-edged sword: the physical wear and tear can break a good team down with injuries effectively killing their chances for a deep run. Having a weak conference, can help an elite team by allowing them to rest hurting players without the fearing of taking a loss, but can also leave them unprepared for the level of play they are going to see at some point in the NCAA tourney. If the conference affiliations of Baylor and Gonzaga, were reversed the past 14 years, BU would have more conference titles...would we have an NC?Stefano DiMera said:
That's the point I was trying to make the other night.
Not a Gonzaga hater.
I was just pissed off after watching us get worked over in Lubbock and the next game was Gonzaga and their regularly scheduled cupcake. The grind us and others have to go through is not comparable.
Same reason I didn't think Cincinnati was one of the 4 best football teams.
Unprepared? They've been in two national championships in the past five years. The reason we beat them last year wasn't because they were unprepared. We were just a generational team who was playing their best ball.
It would be one thing if they were always a 1 seed and kept losing in the 32 or 16 rounds. But they've proven their selves worthy of their ranking.
Nothing but respect for Gonzaga. Great program, and their fans are infinitely less annoying than Jayhawks or Longhorns.
The 2021 team was special though. I think that team would have worked over the previous title game teams in VA and Tech. Both those teams played grinding styles and I think they both would have eventually got run. Gonzaga 2021 in my view was one of the best teams of the last 10 yrs and would have won titles in at least half of those tourneys but unfortunately for them they played an ATG college backcourt. Nobody was hanging with us in that game outside of the better Villanova champ (can't remember which year and 2012 Kentucky maybe). No college team was slowing down our backcourt.
Three guys who can shoot off the dribble and off the pass. All could penetrate and get their own. All had good vision and were great with that skip pass. Just too good for anything but a pro team to slow down.
Jabari Smith is the real deal.whitetrash said:
Meanwhile, auburn lost to Florida.
bear2be2 said:They play the best schedule they can. They don't choose what conference they're in. All they can do is load up the nonconference schedule, which they do every year.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Schedule.bear2be2 said:What narrative is that? That Gonzaga is really good?BellCountyBear said:
Geez, what a tired narrative re: Gonzaga. Russia collusion!!
Gonzaga has made the tournament 22 straight times, has advanced to at least the round of 32 every year since 2009, has reached at least the Sweet Sixteen every year since 2015 and has played in two national title games since 2017.
This board's hard-on for Gonzaga is really, really strange.
There's not another team in the nation that has been to the Sweet 16 or deeper in the last six held tournaments. Plenty of others get high seeds annually.Chuckroast said:bear2be2 said:They play the best schedule they can. They don't choose what conference they're in. All they can do is load up the nonconference schedule, which they do every year.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Schedule.bear2be2 said:What narrative is that? That Gonzaga is really good?BellCountyBear said:
Geez, what a tired narrative re: Gonzaga. Russia collusion!!
Gonzaga has made the tournament 22 straight times, has advanced to at least the round of 32 every year since 2009, has reached at least the Sweet Sixteen every year since 2015 and has played in two national title games since 2017.
This board's hard-on for Gonzaga is really, really strange.
No doubt Gonzaga is good, but I think they are getting the benefit of a higher seed than they may actually deserve in some years simply due to their gaudy record. As we all know, a high seed makes the path to the sweet 16 a whole lot easier.
bear2be2 said:There's not another team in the nation that has been to the Sweet 16 or deeper in the last six held tournaments. Plenty of others get high seeds annually.Chuckroast said:bear2be2 said:They play the best schedule they can. They don't choose what conference they're in. All they can do is load up the nonconference schedule, which they do every year.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Schedule.bear2be2 said:What narrative is that? That Gonzaga is really good?BellCountyBear said:
Geez, what a tired narrative re: Gonzaga. Russia collusion!!
Gonzaga has made the tournament 22 straight times, has advanced to at least the round of 32 every year since 2009, has reached at least the Sweet Sixteen every year since 2015 and has played in two national title games since 2017.
This board's hard-on for Gonzaga is really, really strange.
No doubt Gonzaga is good, but I think they are getting the benefit of a higher seed than they may actually deserve in some years simply due to their gaudy record. As we all know, a high seed makes the path to the sweet 16 a whole lot easier.
Duke is the one other program that could have matched Gonzaga's run, and they missed the tournament entirely last year.
Kansas, which has had the same number of No. 1 seeds as Gonzaga since the 2014-15 season has been bounced in the round of 32 twice.
There's just no good argument to be made that Gonzaga has been overseeded. Unless we want to say that every team that gets the same seeds is overseeded.
