Even if Everyday Jon is back next month he's going to be rusty. He won't be the same as he was before the injury. Maybe by March he will get there & maybe the rest of the team will start putting everything together, but a title run seems unrealistic now. Even if that happened it would be a miracle to get to the Final Four. As it stands, we will probably be lucky to get to the Elite 8 & I may be over optimistic expecting as to get to the Sweet 16.

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Even if Everyday Jon is back next month he's going to be rusty. He won't be the same as he was before the injury. Maybe by March he will get there & maybe the rest of the team will start putting everything together, but a title run seems unrealistic now. Even if that happened it would be a miracle to get to the Final Four. As it stands, we will probably be lucky to get to the Elite 8 & I may be over optimistic expecting as to get to the Sweet 16.

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You think there's a chance he's back this year? I can't see it.

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Or Carmelo or anyone who went straight from HS to the pros. The fact that we're even having this discussion is hilarious.

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Carmelo went to Syracuse. Won a Natty as a freshman.

Probably not but we can hope. For months all the word we got was that his recovery was going very well. It's easy to interpret that as a positive sign. But it's so vague as to mean almost anything.

If he does come back & as able to get to where he's close to where he was before the injury, then that can boost the team in a big way.

Why can't they defend without fouling??

Next Magic Johnson? Of course not. There's only one Magic.

Danged good NBA point guard? Absolutely. Jason Kidd but much better offensively? Maybe?

Future NBA All-Star at point guard? I think there's a darned good chance of that.

Whoever drafts this young man will be happy they did.

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Probably not but we can hope. For months all the word we got was that his recovery was going very well. It's easy to interpret that as a positive sign. But it's so vague as to mean almost anything.

If he does come back & as able to get to where he's close to where he was before the injury, then that can boost the team in a big way.

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No. I don't want to waste his final season on what, seven or eight games? Be ready to go next year, the whole season.

The more I think about it the more I realize that is probably the wisest course of action. The coaches have probably already reached the same conclusion and just won't announce it for strategic reasons. Don't throw him into the grind of conference play until he's physically 100% and also has has plenty of time to get his rhythm, mojo, etc. I remember how much trouble Tristan Clark had coming back from his injury. It must be very difficult. Big 12 games are not the way to do it.

Both things can be true at the same time. The rehab is going very well, and he won't be ready to come back this year.

Exactly

Looking Great Playing Point Tonight!

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Looking Great Playing Point Tonight!

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JTT is looking Great Playing and it is a Miracle. But how about the pass from George to John…Magic!

Keynote McJorgicbirdwave

I'm wondering right now if Keyonte George is ready for the D league? I think he needs another year in college.

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I'm wondering right now if Keyonte George is ready for the D league? I think he needs another year in college.

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Ain't happening. After tonight he's got a minimum of seven games left with us. And a max of 14.

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I am sky high on him. But no one player can carry a team to the Title. He does have help, and hindrances.

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You are such a clown.

You spent much of the 20-21 season claiming Matt Mayer was going to be a 1st round NBA pick.

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I'm wondering right now if Keyonte George is ready for the D league? I think he needs another year in college.

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Odd timing to throw shade in his direction. Last night was one of Key's best overall floor games. Was approaching triple-double territory and didn't need to force offense with Cryer scorching.

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I'm wondering right now if Keyonte George is ready for the D league? I think he needs another year in college.

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What the hell

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BUCANDOIT82 said:

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I am sky high on him. But no one player can carry a team to the Title. He does have help, and hindrances.

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You are such a clown.

You spent much of the 20-21 season claiming Matt Mayer was going to be a 1st round NBA pick.

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He was invited to the draft combine 2 years in a row. So the NBA thinks he is potentially a draftable player. You should discuss your disagreement with them.

Last night Keyonte showed winning is more important to him than his stats. Highly impressive for a freshman. He might be the best pure passer in college this year. He is certainly the best passer the Big XII has seen in several years.

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I am sky high on him. But no one player can carry a team to the Title. He does have help, and hindrances.

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You are such a clown.

You spent much of the 20-21 season claiming Matt Mayer was going to be a 1st round NBA pick.

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He was invited to the draft combine 2 years in a row. So the NBA thinks he is potentially a draftable player. You should discuss your disagreement with them.

Last night Keyonte showed winning is more important to him than his stats. Highly impressive for a freshman. He might be the best pure passer in college this year. He is certainly the best passer the Big XII has seen in several years.

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Draftable vs guaranteed first round pick are hugely different things.

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Even if Everyday Jon is back next month he's going to be rusty. He won't be the same as he was before the injury. Maybe by March he will get there & maybe the rest of the team will start putting everything together, but a title run seems unrealistic now. Even if that happened it would be a miracle to get to the Final Four. As it stands, we will probably be lucky to get to the Elite 8 & I may be over optimistic expecting as to get to the Sweet 16.

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You think there's a chance he's back this year? I can't see it.

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Yes, I think there is a chance!

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Even if Everyday Jon is back next month he's going to be rusty. He won't be the same as he was before the injury. Maybe by March he will get there & maybe the rest of the team will start putting everything together, but a title run seems unrealistic now. Even if that happened it would be a miracle to get to the Final Four. As it stands, we will probably be lucky to get to the Elite 8 & I may be over optimistic expecting as to get to the Sweet 16.

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You think there's a chance he's back this year? I can't see it.

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Yes, I think there is a chance!

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I'm still nervous when he's on the floor. I guess I was wrong.

If he continues to make that jumper from 15feet and can give is 11 per night? We're cutting down nets in Houston.

Based on what I've seen so far, I would be surprised if he is a first round pick. I know the NBA drafts on potential and he needs to get stronger/faster. A first round pick is so much more lucrative than a 2nd round pick. Unless he is being told he is a sure fire first round pick he should stay another year.

He's going top 10, he's gone

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Even if Everyday Jon is back next month he's going to be rusty. He won't be the same as he was before the injury. Maybe by March he will get there & maybe the rest of the team will start putting everything together, but a title run seems unrealistic now. Even if that happened it would be a miracle to get to the Final Four. As it stands, we will probably be lucky to get to the Elite 8 & I may be over optimistic expecting as to get to the Sweet 16.

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You think there's a chance he's back this year? I can't see it.

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Yes, I think there is a chance!

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I'm still nervous when he's on the floor. I guess I was wrong.

If he continues to make that jumper from 15feet and can give is 11 per night? We're cutting down nets in Houston.

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I was joking after Jon has played in 3 games this year. He's clearly not at 100% and made some mistakes. Thankfully, he also had positive contributions & we can be confident those will increase. You're right: if he can do the right things we can be back in the Final Four. I'm just going to anticipate another championship. That seems like too much to hope for.

Does anyone know what Keyonte's vertical is? Dude has some serious hops - rebounds over MUCH taller opposing players.

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Does anyone know what Keyonte's vertical is? Dude has some serious hops - rebounds over MUCH taller opposing players.

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With Keyonte I don't see elite run-and-jump athleticism. He is an elite rebounder for a guard due to his instincts and anticipation moreso than his vertical. He is Rodman-esque as far as being able to track the flight of the ball and anticipate how it will come off the rim, and times his jump while using his body extremely well to rebound over taller players. On the other side of the court, he is an elite offensive player due to his handle, craftiness and shiftiness as opposed to pure speed or quickness. In particular he has all-world body control while in the air, allowing him to avoid offensive fouls. He reminds me of James Harden or further back Manu Ginobili as far a guard who is a machine drawing fouls and getting to the free throw line. Easy to forget he is still just a 19 year old baby and has the frame to get much stronger with NBA nutrition, strength training, and natural maturation as his physical strenght peaks in his mid to late 20s. Look at Flagler and even Cryer who are a few years older and are expontentially stronger physically from when they arrived in Waco due to Charlie Melton's strength-training program.

His "seeing" the ball when rebounding is the same skill he has when he "see's" the opening when passing the ball. So many of his passes are perfect.

Keyonte says Hello!

Still thinking about this pass by Keyonte. His zip passes are so freaking fun pic.twitter.com/cBwnTmgqHr

— Jazz Lead (@JazzLead) November 26, 2023

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KG got up

An efficient 30 points tonight.