But shooting a horrifically inefficient 36% on the season. Shot selection or is his shot simply broken? I haven't watched the Jazz this season.BUCANDOIT82 said:
An efficient 30 points tonight.
Is Keyonte George the next Magic Johnson?
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Keyonte George missed two weeks of play, wasn’t in the starting lineup to start the season, and STILL has 46 more assists than the next rookie. #TakeNote pic.twitter.com/ojGu0sUslt
— matt (@aightmatt) December 27, 2023
Crawfoso1973 said:But shooting a horrifically inefficient 36% on the season. Shot selection or is his shot simply broken? I haven't watched the Jazz this season.BUCANDOIT82 said:
An efficient 30 points tonight.
Dude is silky smooth off the catch and shoot. Shooting off the dribble is … just different. He's having to learn to get open in different ways. I also suspect the Jazz have tweaked his shooting form a little bit. He's kicking his right foot much further than he did at Baylor on his jump shots and a few time he's looked like Klay Thompson rotating the entire right side of his body on a vertical axis behind his shot.
If you watch him once he initiates the offense, to my eye he's gotten even better attacking/shooting from the wings. He's much more decisive and doesn't pound the ball.
Also, his TS% has creeped up to nearly 50% after being in the mid-40s at the start of December. That's a great sign. If he can get his shot to fall like it was at Baylor then you've an All Rookie team selection and borderline allstar beyond.
He is good but Magic is one of the best of all time.
Welcome back Keyonte! 21 in his return, 12 in the 4th.
I think it may be time to consider the possibility that Keyonte George just isn't a very good shooter.Crawfoso1973 said:But shooting a horrifically inefficient 36% on the season. Shot selection or is his shot simply broken? I haven't watched the Jazz this season.BUCANDOIT82 said:
An efficient 30 points tonight.
He makes enough tough shots to fool everyone into believing the opposite, but his percentages -- both at Baylor and in the NBA -- are what they are.
He was a 38 percent shooter at Baylor and was sub-34 percent from 3. It looks like he's shooting pretty much exactly the way he did at Baylor, and that's eventually going to be an issue.DallasBear9902 said:Crawfoso1973 said:But shooting a horrifically inefficient 36% on the season. Shot selection or is his shot simply broken? I haven't watched the Jazz this season.BUCANDOIT82 said:
An efficient 30 points tonight.
Dude is silky smooth off the catch and shoot. Shooting off the dribble is … just different. He's having to learn to get open in different ways. I also suspect the Jazz have tweaked his shooting form a little bit. He's kicking his right foot much further than he did at Baylor on his jump shots and a few time he's looked like Klay Thompson rotating the entire right side of his body on a vertical axis behind his shot.
If you watch him once he initiates the offense, to my eye he's gotten even better attacking/shooting from the wings. He's much more decisive and doesn't pound the ball.
Also, his TS% has creeped up to nearly 50% after being in the mid-40s at the start of December. That's a great sign. If he can get his shot to fall like it was at Baylor then you've an All Rookie team selection and borderline allstar beyond.
You are looking at small sample sizes. Trust your eyes and not the stats. A few years ago Mario Teague had a poor 3 pt% and then hit 10 of 11 in Lubbock and his numbers flipped.
No, I'm looking at the only samples. His entire body of work as a collegian and pro suggests he's a poor shooter.BUCANDOIT82 said:
You are looking at small sample sizes. Trust your eyes and not the stats. A few years ago Mario Teague had a poor 3 pt% and then hit 10 of 11 in Lubbock and his numbers flipped.
bear2be2 said:He was a 38 percent shooter at Baylor and was sub-34 percent from 3. It looks like he's shooting pretty much exactly the way he did at Baylor, and that's eventually going to be an issue.DallasBear9902 said:Crawfoso1973 said:But shooting a horrifically inefficient 36% on the season. Shot selection or is his shot simply broken? I haven't watched the Jazz this season.BUCANDOIT82 said:
An efficient 30 points tonight.
Dude is silky smooth off the catch and shoot. Shooting off the dribble is … just different. He's having to learn to get open in different ways. I also suspect the Jazz have tweaked his shooting form a little bit. He's kicking his right foot much further than he did at Baylor on his jump shots and a few time he's looked like Klay Thompson rotating the entire right side of his body on a vertical axis behind his shot.
If you watch him once he initiates the offense, to my eye he's gotten even better attacking/shooting from the wings. He's much more decisive and doesn't pound the ball.
Also, his TS% has creeped up to nearly 50% after being in the mid-40s at the start of December. That's a great sign. If he can get his shot to fall like it was at Baylor then you've an All Rookie team selection and borderline allstar beyond.
Apples to oranges. He shot 33.8% at Baylor on a 22.15 foot three point line his age 18 season. He's currently in his age 19 season shooting 33.6% on a 23.75 foot three point nba line (he's not shooting much from the corner, which is 22.25 in the NBA).
Steph Curry shot 38% his junior year (age 20 season) which was the first year the ncaa moved the line back to 20.75 feet.
He's tracking well.
One of the best passes of the season https://t.co/yYdhv50sDI
— Tony Jones (@Tjonesonthenba) March 5, 2024
Just to annoy the freshman haters who weren't satisfied with the Big XII's top freshman:
#TBThursday pic.twitter.com/56wa4tRqHt
— Andrea George-Carrington (@fitsational) May 10, 2024
This isn't a video of Gradey Dick.BUCANDOIT82 said:
Just to annoy the freshman haters who weren't satisfied with the Big XII's top freshman:#TBThursday pic.twitter.com/56wa4tRqHt
— Andrea George-Carrington (@fitsational) May 10, 2024
I love all this arguing about George - - Heck of player and hopefully will have a long NBA career. I bet a strong off season of weights and conditioning will help him next year - expect the FG% to improve. That first year playing NBA ball must take a toll on the body and mind....Happy to see Baylor represented.....
Grady wasn't Big XII Freshman of the Year...It's not surprising you and the people who liked your post prefer Kansas players over Baylor players.
Gradey Dick was a way more effective and efficient player for Kansas than Keyonte George was for us. That style won over substance during award season doesn't change that.BUCANDOIT82 said:
Grady wasn't Big XII Freshman of the Year...It's not surprising you and the people who liked your post prefer Kansas players over Baylor players.
I just don't care what he does in the NBA. I judge all Baylor players by what they do/did in a Baylor a uniform, and his season was one of the more frustrating in recent memory.BluesBear said:
I love all this arguing about George - - Heck of player and hopefully will have a long NBA career. I bet a strong off season of weights and conditioning will help him next year - expect the FG% to improve. That first year playing NBA ball must take a toll on the body and mind....Happy to see Baylor represented.....
Your wasting time trying to reason with 82…
BluesBear said:
I love all this arguing about George - - Heck of player and hopefully will have a long NBA career. I bet a strong off season of weights and conditioning will help him next year - expect the FG% to improve. That first year playing NBA ball must take a toll on the body and mind....Happy to see Baylor represented.....
All in all a terrific rookie season and Key is still so young. Huge upside remaining for the balance of his career. His year with us didn't end as we all would have hoped, but he gave us his all including playing injured. I will always respect how he put his body on the line when others would have shut down their season to prepare for the draft.
I guess being the Newcomer of the Year, Freshman of the Year, First team Freshman and Second team Big12 aren't worthy enough.....Hmmmm. Ok.bear2be2 said:I just don't care what he does in the NBA. I judge all Baylor players by what they do/did in a Baylor a uniform, and his season was one of the more frustrating in recent memory.BluesBear said:
I love all this arguing about George - - Heck of player and hopefully will have a long NBA career. I bet a strong off season of weights and conditioning will help him next year - expect the FG% to improve. That first year playing NBA ball must take a toll on the body and mind....Happy to see Baylor represented.....
Worthy of what exactly? He was a solid, but deeply flawed player for a solid, but deeply flawed team that finished fourth in our league and absolutely got its ass kicked by a lower-seeded Creighton team in the second round of NCAA tournament. What are you wanting? A statue?BluesBear said:I guess being the Newcomer of the Year, Freshman of the Year, First team Freshman and Second team Big12 aren't worthy enough.....Hmmmm. Ok.bear2be2 said:I just don't care what he does in the NBA. I judge all Baylor players by what they do/did in a Baylor a uniform, and his season was one of the more frustrating in recent memory.BluesBear said:
I love all this arguing about George - - Heck of player and hopefully will have a long NBA career. I bet a strong off season of weights and conditioning will help him next year - expect the FG% to improve. That first year playing NBA ball must take a toll on the body and mind....Happy to see Baylor represented.....
Hi Keyonte. You really should move on from this college-level blog site. I mean, you're a pro now. Move on!BUCANDOIT82 said:
I've seen enough to say yes!
I care what he does in the NBA. He was a Baylor Bear. I don't just discard them when they move on to the next level. He's not just here for my feelgood. I want him to succeed.bear2be2 said:I just don't care what he does in the NBA. I judge all Baylor players by what they do/did in a Baylor a uniform, and his season was one of the more frustrating in recent memory.BluesBear said:
I love all this arguing about George - - Heck of player and hopefully will have a long NBA career. I bet a strong off season of weights and conditioning will help him next year - expect the FG% to improve. That first year playing NBA ball must take a toll on the body and mind....Happy to see Baylor represented.....
I didn't say I wish him ill. But I'm not an NBA fan. I'm a bandwagon Mavericks fan at best, who will usually tune in to the playoffs, when teams actually play with some urgency and intensity on both ends.EvilTroyAndAbed said:I care what he does in the NBA. He was a Baylor Bear. I don't just discard them when they move on to the next level. He's not just here for my feelgood. I want him to succeed.bear2be2 said:I just don't care what he does in the NBA. I judge all Baylor players by what they do/did in a Baylor a uniform, and his season was one of the more frustrating in recent memory.BluesBear said:
I love all this arguing about George - - Heck of player and hopefully will have a long NBA career. I bet a strong off season of weights and conditioning will help him next year - expect the FG% to improve. That first year playing NBA ball must take a toll on the body and mind....Happy to see Baylor represented.....
Baylor is my men's basketball rooting interest. That's what I care about. And frankly, it's hard to get too attached to or invested in players who are only with our team for a single season.
I tend to root for the post-college success of those who had significant impacts on or showed significant growth in our program. But I don't have the time or bandwidth to invest myself in the careers of every player who came through our program, particularly those I didn't really enjoy watching while they were here.
Keyonte George asking questions in Dallas today for the NBA social accounts https://t.co/kND05QwO1X
— Darby Brown (@darbyjobrown) June 12, 2024
bear2be2 said:I didn't say I wish him ill. But I'm not an NBA fan. I'm a bandwagon Mavericks fan at best, who will usually tune in to the playoffs, when teams actually play with some urgency and intensity on both ends.EvilTroyAndAbed said:I care what he does in the NBA. He was a Baylor Bear. I don't just discard them when they move on to the next level. He's not just here for my feelgood. I want him to succeed.bear2be2 said:I just don't care what he does in the NBA. I judge all Baylor players by what they do/did in a Baylor a uniform, and his season was one of the more frustrating in recent memory.BluesBear said:
I love all this arguing about George - - Heck of player and hopefully will have a long NBA career. I bet a strong off season of weights and conditioning will help him next year - expect the FG% to improve. That first year playing NBA ball must take a toll on the body and mind....Happy to see Baylor represented.....
Baylor is my men's basketball rooting interest. That's what I care about. And frankly, it's hard to get too attached to or invested in players who are only with our team for a single season.
I tend to root for the post-college success of those who had significant impacts on or showed significant growth in our program. But I don't have the time or bandwidth to invest myself in the careers of every player who came through our program, particularly those I didn't really enjoy watching while they were here.
We have so few players in the NBA that I have plenty of bandwidth to root for his success.
Good for you. I don't watch the NBA until the playoffs. It's a **** product until then.EvilTroyAndAbed said:bear2be2 said:I didn't say I wish him ill. But I'm not an NBA fan. I'm a bandwagon Mavericks fan at best, who will usually tune in to the playoffs, when teams actually play with some urgency and intensity on both ends.EvilTroyAndAbed said:I care what he does in the NBA. He was a Baylor Bear. I don't just discard them when they move on to the next level. He's not just here for my feelgood. I want him to succeed.bear2be2 said:I just don't care what he does in the NBA. I judge all Baylor players by what they do/did in a Baylor a uniform, and his season was one of the more frustrating in recent memory.BluesBear said:
I love all this arguing about George - - Heck of player and hopefully will have a long NBA career. I bet a strong off season of weights and conditioning will help him next year - expect the FG% to improve. That first year playing NBA ball must take a toll on the body and mind....Happy to see Baylor represented.....
Baylor is my men's basketball rooting interest. That's what I care about. And frankly, it's hard to get too attached to or invested in players who are only with our team for a single season.
I tend to root for the post-college success of those who had significant impacts on or showed significant growth in our program. But I don't have the time or bandwidth to invest myself in the careers of every player who came through our program, particularly those I didn't really enjoy watching while they were here.
We have so few players in the NBA that I have plenty of bandwidth to root for his success.
Is Keyonte the next Nikola Jokic?
Filthy
Don't jump with Keyonte George 💥 https://t.co/Su2AzTIMS2 pic.twitter.com/My7wCv0cXE
— NBA (@NBA) December 20, 2024
He's having a rough night…He's already missed a shot.
What a poster by Keyonte George 😱 pic.twitter.com/JEyunaRrlb
— NBA on ESPN (@ESPNNBA) December 20, 2024
And most nights he misses the majority of his shots. Still shooting 39% from the field on the year, right where he was at last year. Despite his brutal inefficiency he fortunately will get a long leash on a rebuilding team like Utah.BUCANDOIT82 said:
He's having a rough night…He's already missed a shot.
Cut him some slack. He is still young. He is a major talent, and I am sure glad he came to Baylor.Crawfoso1973 said:And most nights he misses the majority of his shots. Still shooting 39% from the field on the year, right where he was at last year. Despite his brutal inefficiency he fortunately will get a long leash on a rebuilding team like Utah.BUCANDOIT82 said:
He's having a rough night…He's already missed a shot.
Agree with that. Have to remind myself he would be in his junior year in college. One of the things that I remember from his time here was the amazing passes he could make on the court. I have wondered if he is better off becoming a pass first point guard, less of a volume shooter.chorne68 said:Cut him some slack. He is still young. He is a major talent, and I am sure glad he came to Baylor.Crawfoso1973 said:And most nights he misses the majority of his shots. Still shooting 39% from the field on the year, right where he was at last year. Despite his brutal inefficiency he fortunately will get a long leash on a rebuilding team like Utah.BUCANDOIT82 said:
He's having a rough night…He's already missed a shot.
NBA franchises won't cut him slack though if he can't improve his efficiency. He is still very young with time to improve. But he will need to do that if his goal is to be a franchise PG. If not, he just end up a bench scoring guy which would be okay too. He will still make money playing basketball.chorne68 said:Cut him some slack. He is still young. He is a major talent, and I am sure glad he came to Baylor.Crawfoso1973 said:And most nights he misses the majority of his shots. Still shooting 39% from the field on the year, right where he was at last year. Despite his brutal inefficiency he fortunately will get a long leash on a rebuilding team like Utah.BUCANDOIT82 said:
He's having a rough night…He's already missed a shot.
And I am also glad he came to Baylor.
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