Porter Moser is only the second Okie coach in 35 years

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RegentCoverup
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That didn't pay his players under the table…

And he's barely above .500. Difficult to win at OU without outright paying players.

Capel was a crook.
Sampson was a crook.
Tubbs paid players in briefcases full of cash.

But Moser and Krueger aren't cheaters.
When Lon Krueger was in charge, some players were approached by an alum that wanted to give them some cash. Krueger found out about it, disciplined the players and told him if they didn't report it immediately next time, he'd yank their scholarship and they'd be gone. This is pure rumor, but apparently Castiglione wanted to be more lenient. And some wondered if he knew about it before hand.

Castiglione won't have it so easy if he's caught in the SEC.

But if you want to see how the NLI system has sort of leveled the playing field, look no further at this program we just played.
Chamberman
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Kind of moot. Moser's team can be paid on top of the table.
Fre3dombear
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Is this post from 2021?

That's what made now Heil *****ing about it so funny
ABC BEAR
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Moser is a tournament coach. I won't be surprised to see the Sooners in the Sweet 16.
Stefano DiMera
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I guess OP forgot Dave Bliss was there before Tubbs.
ScottS
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ABC BEAR said:

Moser is a tournament coach. I won't be surprised to see the Sooners in the Sweet 16.
What is their record? WIll they even make the NCAA tournament?
historian
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They are on the bubble now.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
DanaDane
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Highly likely that Moser will be in South Bend next year so it will be interesting to see who Castiglione seeks as the replacement.
historian
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He can't have Scott Drew!!
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
EvilTroyAndAbed
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ABC BEAR said:

Moser is a tournament coach. I won't be surprised to see the Sooners in the Sweet 16.


They're not making the tournament. Salty team who will have a losing record because the conference is so tough. Tech too. But we'll get 8 in.
Mitch Blood Green
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This post assumes the Big12 is the same as it was 15 years ago. Nothing can be further from the truth. This OU team would have at least 6 more wins if it played the KSU/Baylor/Tech teams of 2006.
RegentCoverup
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Stefano DiMera said:

I guess OP forgot Dave Bliss was there before Tubbs.
I was being generous.

Dave Bliss taught my brother how to shoot free throws. He deserves what he got in terms of shame, but at some points in time, he was a good teacher.

RegentCoverup
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Agree that Moser is a good coach.

But the bigger point is that their program can't win without paying players. Capel getting caught sending cash via a money order should have been a death penalty. Dan Dakich called Kelvin Sampson a crook. He might be the biggest cheat of all of them.

But the guy at the top is the suspicious AD that was on the field standing next to his head coach during a game while his program melted down. All time strangest thing I've ever seen in a college sporting event. I've never seen that happen. Castiglione tried to place the blame on Riley, but I highly doubt that's how it really went down.

We need to be honest about how this business works. Cheating is tacitly accepted. But when a small private school does it, the big state schools demand outsized punishment.

IowaBear
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They're 12-12 and 2-9 in conference they aren't making the dance.
ScottS
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historian said:

They are on the bubble now.
NIT bubble?
historian
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I was commenting on their current status based upon bracketology, for what that is worth. I know they are unlikely to get in because they would have to win all or almost all of the rest of their games. Highly unlikely.

However, doesn't the winner of the Big 12 tournament get an auto-bid? I don't expect they will but it is possible.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
IowaBear
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Sure it's possible… not going to happen though. WV is sitting at 4-7 and they have to go to Lawrence, Austin, Waco and Ames still. If they don't finish 7-11 they aren't getting in either
historian
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Yep
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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