Will be curious to see if TCU comes out flat. I feel like they should win that game, but might still have a hangover from Saturday.

Yep flat down 24-16 7:50

Frogs up by 11 with 6 to go

I e said all along Tech was punching way above their weight class. At some point they'll crash back down to earth. Perhaps that descent down starts tonight

Tier 1: Houston, Iowa St, KU (but only when KU can keep all 5 starters in the game; otherwise Tier 2)

Tier 2: Baylor, Tech, TCU, KState, Texas, UC, BYU, OU, UCF

Tier 3: Ok St, WVU

Just thus far into the season. And not a significant separation between any of the 3 tiers, particularly on the road

TCU fans chanting '16 year old' to Isaacs at end of game.

Classy.

I know they may lose but I'm impressed with McCasland's coaching. Those guys play hard nose basketball. There is no way that team should have the record they have. He has Isaacs and a bunch of 2nd tier guys. When all is said, they will finish middle of the pack, but that is an overachievement relative to their talent level.

How in the world did someone get that humongous Jamie Dixon replica into the gym and behind the goal in the student's section. Is that something they keep at the arena?

Froggies win, 85-78.

KU playing without McCullar tonight against Ok State. He is out with a bruised knee. So maybe it's just 7 on 5 tonight.

Well, not Big 12 but 9-11 Georgia Tech knocks off #3 UNC 74-73. The road claims ANOTHER Top 10 team.

OU struggling on the road at Manhattan I guess since it's such a tough place to play.

14 minutes to go


OU 43
K State 29

Every time I watch K State it makes me sick. The worst offensive team in the Big 12 by far. Just awful.

I know there's a lot of love on this board for Iowa State..but I would put TCU in that Top tier now and put Iowa St in tier 2.

That is a veteran and deep and well coached squad in Ft Worth that is getting different contributions every game from someone different.

ISU just beat them… in Ft Worth, without their star PG

They're terrible. I've double down and will triple down. They won't take the tournament. Zero excuses to lose that game

Iowa St is clearly Tier 1 - NOW

I'd agree TCU has the best roster to go on a run and become a Tier 1. Dixon did a much better job constructing a full roster than we did.

I may have to create a Tier 4 for Ok State. They are just bad.

WV and OSU are god awful.

Boynton:

21-15
12-20
18-14
21-9 (with Cade Cunningham; out of NCAA's 1st weekend)
15-15
20-16
9-11 now

I get the NCAA unfair excuse but what did Boynton really do even before that? Ok State is getting left behind in a sport in which they have always wanted to be dominant. How long do you continue with this?

There's no way he survives this season. And I hope Drew calls him right away. He's a good recruiter and knows defense

OU 49
K State 36

10:47 to go

Hackfest so far with 36 fouls called.

That sounds good. But, won't a mid major will give him a shot immediately as a head coach? Maybe he'd rather stay High Major as an assistant?

Oh I'm sure plenty of solid MM's would be interested and rightfully so.

OU letting K State back in the game because they can't hit FT's. Shooting 58% from the line. K State has finally closed it under double figures for the first time since halfway through the first half.

I've watched this Timberlake kid from Kansas, the kid they brought in as a 3 point shooting specialist, clank 3 pointer after 3 pointer the entire year. So help me if he suddenly goes 8-8 from 3 against us, my head will explode.

Didn't last long.

OU now up 59-44 with 6 to go.

I think they are one who could work their way down to Tier 3 before the season is over.

TCU is getting hot. We'll see how far they go

Final score from Manhattan:

OU 73
K State 53


Final score from Lawrence:

KU 83
Ok St. 54

Two blow outs. We have not seen many of those in Big 12 play this month.

K State loss looking worse and worse.

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K State loss looking worse and worse.

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We'll always be Tang's Superbowl.

Bear8084 said:

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GoodOleBaylorLine said:

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K State loss looking worse and worse.

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We'll always be Tang's Superbowl.

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Sure. At some point, you'd think we'd get up for that. But like TCU in football, seems to be totally one-sided.

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K State loss looking worse and worse.

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We'll always be Tang's Superbowl.

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It's time to match intensity though. Time to stop with the life in the big 12 line.

I agree K State will always be gunning as long as Tang is there. Ku will be ready to play us, while not a peer they started to understand we were their main threat.
Sampson will be gunning extremely hard for us as well, I promise that is circled for him. Tcu plays us really hard as does Tech.

Only game I feel we are up for as much or more than the opponent is Kansas and in Drew's earlier days, Texas.

Time to get used to it and just win