NIL - How much?

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TXBEAR_bf
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Baylor mentioned in this Q&A piece from The Athletic, not totally surprised, but to Ashley's point about Baylor being in the top five for NIL, this article seems to suggest that we are a market maker.

Does anyone have inside knowledge on how much players earn when they transfer? $300K? $600K? A million? Richard T.

Great question that is on a lot of people's minds right now, and let's just say the consensus around college basketball this spring is that prices (sorry, uh, we mean expected name, image and likeness deals) have never been higher. I surveyed a handful of movers and shakers in the sport two high-major head coaches, another high-major staffer, a recruiting insider and a behind-the-scenes power broker, all of whom were granted anonymity in exchange for their candor to get a feel for the market.

First, this: "Baylor, Arkansas and Louisville have helped the market," says one insider. Another listed those three, plus Indiana, Alabama and Kentucky as the biggest spenders this free-agent season. A mix of that, plus obscene asking prices, plus a little bit of liar's poker have resulted in this new reality: "Every kid has 'multiple $750K offers.' That's the opening line of every agent," says one insider.

OK, so what are the actual going rates for transfers signing with high-major programs right now?

"Starter should be $200,000-$250,000, all-conference $350,000, All-American $500,000-plus but there are people paying double that across the board," says one source.

"Starter: $200,000-$300,000. All-conference: $500,000-$750,000. High-end: $800,000-$2 million," says another.

"Starter: $500,000. All-conference: $800,000-$1 million. Top guys: Well over $1 million. Some teams are getting wild as well with money in the portal," says a third.

"Depends on position. An all-conference guard could be looking at $450,000-$600,000 and, as they've gotten more scarce, $600,000-$800,000. For bigs, what was $600,000-plus for an all-conference player is now over $1 million," says a fourth.

"Starter: $200,000-$400,000. All-league potential: $600,000-$800,000. Top guys over a milly!!!" says source No. 5

Bottom line: If you have major needs to fill and plan on doing so through the transfer portal, you'd better have a couple million bucks, at least, in available NIL funds to assemble a competitive roster in the current climate.
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ScottS
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We need to get this going on the football side
bear2be2
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ScottS said:

We need to get this going on the football side
We likely already do. The issue is you need a lot more players and the playing field is far less level to begin with.

You're competing against programs with more resources and natural (and unearned, in a lot of cases) advantages, creating an uphill battle that has only gotten steeper in the Power 2 era.
Chuckroast
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I would suspect that players also need to be paid to stay and not enter the portal. Why would our homegrown players be playing for free when they could be making at least $750,000 by transferring?
bear2be2
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Chuckroast said:

I would suspect that players also need to be paid to stay and not enter the portal. Why would our homegrown players be playing for free when they could be making at least $750,000 by transferring?
This is a big part of it. You have to re-recruit your roster every year.

This system really isn't tenable long term. But there are no adults in the room who are ready to acknowledge and create a reasonable plan for what needs to be done to restore any semblance of stability to college athletics (revenue sharing and collective bargaining with the players).
Chuckroast
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bear2be2 said:

Chuckroast said:

I would suspect that players also need to be paid to stay and not enter the portal. Why would our homegrown players be playing for free when they could be making at least $750,000 by transferring?
This is a big part of it. You have to re-recruit your roster every year.

This system really isn't tenable long term. But there are no adults in the room who are ready to acknowledge and create a reasonable plan for what needs to be done to restore any semblance of stability to college athletics (revenue sharing and collective bargaining with the players).


Assuming this is the case, which common sense would tell us it is, then It's Likely that Little didn't get much if any NIL offer, and that economics may have have even played a part in his decision.
Chuckroast
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If 750,000 is the going rate for a transfer, then it makes sense that most major college players are probably earning somewhere between two and 4 million over the course of their college career (And some potentially more). Hard to believe if that's true but good for them.
IvanBear
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I have heard though friend of a friend kind of sources the lowest paid players on our team last year were paid $250,000. They didn't know what the high end were paid.

I also don't know if that means guys like sacks were paid that, my understanding is this was guys who got minutes.
Robert Wilson
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bear2be2 said:

Chuckroast said:

I would suspect that players also need to be paid to stay and not enter the portal. Why would our homegrown players be playing for free when they could be making at least $750,000 by transferring?
This is a big part of it. You have to re-recruit your roster every year.

This system really isn't tenable long term. But there are no adults in the room who are ready to acknowledge and create a reasonable plan for what needs to be done to restore any semblance of stability to college athletics (revenue sharing and collective bargaining with the players).
Agree.

Also, just straight paying players isn't actually NIL, but that appears to be what it has devolved into.

Just silly to have colleges running pro minor league teams for itinerant ball players...
bear2be2
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Robert Wilson said:

bear2be2 said:

Chuckroast said:

I would suspect that players also need to be paid to stay and not enter the portal. Why would our homegrown players be playing for free when they could be making at least $750,000 by transferring?
This is a big part of it. You have to re-recruit your roster every year.

This system really isn't tenable long term. But there are no adults in the room who are ready to acknowledge and create a reasonable plan for what needs to be done to restore any semblance of stability to college athletics (revenue sharing and collective bargaining with the players).
Agree.

Also, just straight paying players isn't actually NIL, but that appears to be what it has devolved into.

Just silly to have colleges running pro minor league teams for itinerant ball players...
Money ruins everything. And having colleges run minor league programs doesn't make a lot of sense, but at this point, the system is what it is. Let's live in the real world, acknowledge the reality the situation and come up with modern, sensible solutions for the problems that exist.

The problem, of course, is it's hard to get two people to agree on what is sensible, which is why things so rarely get done and problems so rarely get solved.
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