I had lunch with Sampson and an assistant when he was at OU. I was 14, and they were asking me questions about a senior on our team who was a top rated prospect. I ate my sack lunch while they grilled me and a few others from the team.

What's he like? Do you think he's a good leader? How does he motivate you? What don't you like about him?

Tony Barone, Jim Harrick, Doherty asst at KU, Tom Penders, Barnes (Clemson days) all showed up. But none of them asked those types of questions.

Tom Izzo said this was his most connected team ever — and his glue guy entered the transfer portal the next day.

I doubt he puts up with this era of college basketball for much longer, sadly 💔 pic.twitter.com/AP76IcRSw2

— College Basketball Report (@CBKReport) April 1, 2025

North Texas is playing in the NIT semifinals and ESPN is interviewing UNT's “New Head Coach” in the booth during a media timeout while UNT is playing. College basketball is in a strange place.

— Josh Brown (@CoachJoshBrown) April 2, 2025

Grambling State head coach Mickey Joseph says there should be buyouts when players transfer up to bigger programs:

"There needs to be a buyout. If they move up from me and go G5 or P4, I should get compensation for that."pic.twitter.com/UrAWGDNza1

— Front Office Sports (@FOS) April 3, 2025

boognish_bear said:

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Grambling State head coach Mickey Joseph says there should be buyouts when players transfer up to bigger programs:

"There needs to be a buyout. If they move up from me and go G5 or P4, I should get compensation for that."pic.twitter.com/UrAWGDNza1

— Front Office Sports (@FOS) April 3, 2025

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He's not wrong.

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boognish_bear said:

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Grambling State head coach Mickey Joseph says there should be buyouts when players transfer up to bigger programs:

"There needs to be a buyout. If they move up from me and go G5 or P4, I should get compensation for that."pic.twitter.com/UrAWGDNza1

— Front Office Sports (@FOS) April 3, 2025

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He's not wrong.

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During your lifetime, how many of your employers paid a fee to your former employers for hiring you?

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Grambling State head coach Mickey Joseph says there should be buyouts when players transfer up to bigger programs:

"There needs to be a buyout. If they move up from me and go G5 or P4, I should get compensation for that."pic.twitter.com/UrAWGDNza1

— Front Office Sports (@FOS) April 3, 2025

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He's not wrong.

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During your lifetime, how many of your employers paid a fee to your former employers for hiring you?

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Tell me you don't understand contracts vs at will employment without telling me.

Adriacus Peratuun said:

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Grambling State head coach Mickey Joseph says there should be buyouts when players transfer up to bigger programs:

"There needs to be a buyout. If they move up from me and go G5 or P4, I should get compensation for that."pic.twitter.com/UrAWGDNza1

— Front Office Sports (@FOS) April 3, 2025

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He's not wrong.

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During your lifetime, how many of your employers paid a fee to your former employers for hiring you?

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Well if they are a NCAA coach or a pro coach/player of any sport....

IvanBear said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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Grambling State head coach Mickey Joseph says there should be buyouts when players transfer up to bigger programs:

"There needs to be a buyout. If they move up from me and go G5 or P4, I should get compensation for that."pic.twitter.com/UrAWGDNza1

— Front Office Sports (@FOS) April 3, 2025

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He's not wrong.

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During your lifetime, how many of your employers paid a fee to your former employers for hiring you?

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Tell me you don't understand contracts vs at will employment without telling me.

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Tell me how many NIL contracts are multi year
Tell me the percentage of Grambling players who actually receive NIL
Tell me how enforceable noncompetes are 200 miles from prior employer

Or simply continue posting nonsense.

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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Grambling State head coach Mickey Joseph says there should be buyouts when players transfer up to bigger programs:

"There needs to be a buyout. If they move up from me and go G5 or P4, I should get compensation for that."pic.twitter.com/UrAWGDNza1

— Front Office Sports (@FOS) April 3, 2025

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He's not wrong.

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Well if they are a NCAA coach or a pro coach/player of any sport....

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different animals

Early termination fees are owed by the employee not the new employer
Pro players moving during free agency = nothing except league created compensatory picks [if applicable] which burden the entire system not simply the new employer.
Pro players under contract are bound by union/league contract.

Again different animals.

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Grambling State head coach Mickey Joseph says there should be buyouts when players transfer up to bigger programs:

"There needs to be a buyout. If they move up from me and go G5 or P4, I should get compensation for that."pic.twitter.com/UrAWGDNza1

— Front Office Sports (@FOS) April 3, 2025

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He's not wrong.

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During your lifetime, how many of your employers paid a fee to your former employers for hiring you?

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Tell me you don't understand contracts vs at will employment without telling me.

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Tell me how many NIL contracts are multi year
Tell me the percentage of Grambling players who actually receive NIL
Tell me how enforceable noncompetes are 200 miles from prior employer

Or simply continue posting nonsense.

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Yes again tell me how contracts work, you keep bringing up non contractual things to compare it too. If someone wanted to hire Grambling's coach guess what, his contract would have to be bought out per the contract provision.

Suggesting college players operate under similar contracts to college coaches certainly isn't the worst suggestion. Non-competes and contracts aren't the same thing but I get it you don't understand contracts.

What the Grambling coach is hinting at is contract buyouts like the coaches. Coaches jump jobs for bigger paydays and he says players should be able to but that like coaches moving from a smaller school to a bigger school the school should get paid some amount.

Pro sports players have contracts. A player under a contract can't just leave. He can be traded for an agreed upon value. Another player, draft pick, etc. Another big part of trading a player under contract is how much his old team will pay to the remaining deal vs his new team. That's why a seemingly good player sometimes gets traded for next to nothing… the acquiring team agreed to eat most of the contract which gives the former team more cap space.

Sports contracts aren't like being an accountant at a Big 4, sales at John Deere, or driving a truck for HEB. The Grambling coach is wanting sports contracts for the college players. If LSU comes to poach his point guard he wants that player to have a buyout clause. They get $25k or whatever. Small fish for LSU but Grambling coach could probably better maintain a roster and program getting $10-50k every time he lost player. That might keep another smaller school from poaching a player as well.

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Grambling State head coach Mickey Joseph says there should be buyouts when players transfer up to bigger programs:

"There needs to be a buyout. If they move up from me and go G5 or P4, I should get compensation for that."pic.twitter.com/UrAWGDNza1

— Front Office Sports (@FOS) April 3, 2025

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He's not wrong.

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During your lifetime, how many of your employers paid a fee to your former employers for hiring you?

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Tell me you don't understand contracts vs at will employment without telling me.

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Tell me how many NIL contracts are multi year
Tell me the percentage of Grambling players who actually receive NIL
Tell me how enforceable noncompetes are 200 miles from prior employer

Or simply continue posting nonsense.

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Yes again tell me how contracts work, you keep bringing up non contractual things to compare it too. If someone wanted to hire Grambling's coach guess what, his contract would have to be bought out per the contract provision.

Suggesting college players operate under similar contracts to college coaches certainly isn't the worst suggestion. Non-competes and contracts aren't the same thing but I get it you don't understand contracts.

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LMFAO…….you are proving the exact opposite.

Contracts bind the signatories not third parties. A contract between a player and a school has zero impact on a third party. Thus the "fee" issue is facially absurd. Stop the "it is about contract" nonsense. Your example is proving my point…..your example isn't a fee owed by a third party but an early termination penalty owed by he coach.

The way third parties can be impacted is enforceable noncompetes. They don't impose fees but could potentially inhibit the usage of the player without some settlement. There is a reason that coaches have early termination penalties and not noncompetes. Enforcing noncompetes is mostly a pipe dream.

What you are trying to argue……but doing a really poor job at………is that NIL deals should have early termination penalties. To make that workable, NIL deals would need to be multi year [most aren't] and a pool of players and schools willing to sign multi year deals. And courts willing to enforce those deals.

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What the Grambling coach is hinting at is contract buyouts like the coaches. Coaches jump jobs for bigger paydays and he says players should be able to but that like coaches moving from a smaller school to a bigger school the school should get paid some amount.

Pro sports players have contracts. A player under a contract can't just leave. He can be traded for an agreed upon value. Another player, draft pick, etc. Another big part of trading a player under contract is how much his old team will pay to the remaining deal vs his new team. That's why a seemingly good player sometimes gets traded for next to nothing… the acquiring team agreed to eat most of the contract which gives the former team more cap space.

Sports contracts aren't like being an accountant at a Big 4, sales at John Deere, or driving a truck for HEB. The Grambling coach is wanting sports contracts for the college players. If LSU comes to poach his point guard he wants that player to have a buyout clause. They get $25k or whatever. Small fish for LSU but Grambling coach could probably better maintain a roster and program getting $10-50k every time he lost player. That might keep another smaller school from poaching a player as well.

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Your pro example isn't valid. Those contracts are enforceable against other teams due to all contracts being subject to the CBA to which those third party teams are a signatory.

College athletes aren't unionized. There is no college CBA. The example is an entirely different set of facts.

The example is to highlight what many coaches would like to see at the college level. The Grambling coach wasn't saying that's how it is, he was saying that's how he'd like it to be and I can't disagree. The players don't have to be unionized for NIL deals to have transfer clause like, "leave before 2 years and you owe the collective 50% of your payment." NCAA could also go back to sitting out a year when you transfer unless you've already graduated.

At the end of the day the NCAA slow walked something that was inevitable and now it's chaos and per usual the NCAA just kicks the can to the courts and throws up its hand like "amateurism… idk… leave us alone…"

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The example is to highlight what many coaches would like to see at the college level. The Grambling coach wasn't saying that's how it is, he was saying that's how he'd like it to be and I can't disagree. The players don't have to be unionized for NIL deals to have transfer clause like, "leave before 2 years and you owe the collective 50% of your payment." NCAA could also go back to sitting out a year when you transfer unless you've already graduated.

At the end of the day the NCAA slow walked something that was inevitable and now it's chaos and per usual the NCAA just kicks the can to the courts and throws up its hand like "amateurism… idk… leave us alone…"

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Again……you are now arguing for a penalty owed by the player when the original item was a fee owed by the new school.

Entirely different animal.

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Grambling State head coach Mickey Joseph says there should be buyouts when players transfer up to bigger programs:

"There needs to be a buyout. If they move up from me and go G5 or P4, I should get compensation for that."pic.twitter.com/UrAWGDNza1

— Front Office Sports (@FOS) April 3, 2025

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He's not wrong.

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During your lifetime, how many of your employers paid a fee to your former employers for hiring you?

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Tell me you don't understand contracts vs at will employment without telling me.

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Tell me how many NIL contracts are multi year
Tell me the percentage of Grambling players who actually receive NIL
Tell me how enforceable noncompetes are 200 miles from prior employer

Or simply continue posting nonsense.

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Yes again tell me how contracts work, you keep bringing up non contractual things to compare it too. If someone wanted to hire Grambling's coach guess what, his contract would have to be bought out per the contract provision.

Suggesting college players operate under similar contracts to college coaches certainly isn't the worst suggestion. Non-competes and contracts aren't the same thing but I get it you don't understand contracts.

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LMFAO…….you are proving the exact opposite.

Contracts bind the signatories not third parties. A contract between a player and a school has zero impact on a third party. Thus the "fee" issue is facially absurd. Stop the "it is about contract" nonsense. Your example is proving my point…..your example isn't a fee owed by a third party but an early termination penalty owed by he coach.

The way third parties can be impacted is enforceable noncompetes. They don't impose fees but could potentially inhibit the usage of the player without some settlement. There is a reason that coaches have early termination penalties and not noncompetes. Enforcing noncompetes is mostly a pipe dream.

What you are trying to argue……but doing a really poor job at………is that NIL deals should have early termination penalties. To make that workable, NIL deals would need to be multi year [most aren't] and a pool of players and schools willing to sign multi year deals. And courts willing to enforce those deals.

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You're just making up stuff and sound really generally unintelligent.

The Grambling coach wants buyouts, which are part of contracts not regular employment which you seem to not understand.

You realize you're the one who brought up non-competes right? You seem upset with the idea the guy wants buyouts in NIL contracts and I guess you seem to think that's illegal or something? I really don't know you're spewing crazy nonsense in multiple posts in a row.

Have a good day!

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Grambling State head coach Mickey Joseph says there should be buyouts when players transfer up to bigger programs:

"There needs to be a buyout. If they move up from me and go G5 or P4, I should get compensation for that."pic.twitter.com/UrAWGDNza1

— Front Office Sports (@FOS) April 3, 2025

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He's not wrong.

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During your lifetime, how many of your employers paid a fee to your former employers for hiring you?

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Tell me you don't understand contracts vs at will employment without telling me.

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Tell me how many NIL contracts are multi year
Tell me the percentage of Grambling players who actually receive NIL
Tell me how enforceable noncompetes are 200 miles from prior employer

Or simply continue posting nonsense.

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Yes again tell me how contracts work, you keep bringing up non contractual things to compare it too. If someone wanted to hire Grambling's coach guess what, his contract would have to be bought out per the contract provision.

Suggesting college players operate under similar contracts to college coaches certainly isn't the worst suggestion. Non-competes and contracts aren't the same thing but I get it you don't understand contracts.

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LMFAO…….you are proving the exact opposite.

Contracts bind the signatories not third parties. A contract between a player and a school has zero impact on a third party. Thus the "fee" issue is facially absurd. Stop the "it is about contract" nonsense. Your example is proving my point…..your example isn't a fee owed by a third party but an early termination penalty owed by he coach.

The way third parties can be impacted is enforceable noncompetes. They don't impose fees but could potentially inhibit the usage of the player without some settlement. There is a reason that coaches have early termination penalties and not noncompetes. Enforcing noncompetes is mostly a pipe dream.

What you are trying to argue……but doing a really poor job at………is that NIL deals should have early termination penalties. To make that workable, NIL deals would need to be multi year [most aren't] and a pool of players and schools willing to sign multi year deals. And courts willing to enforce those deals.

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You're just making up stuff and sound really generally unintelligent.

The Grambling coach wants buyouts, which are part of contracts not regular employment which you seem to not understand.

You realize you're the one who brought up non-competes right? You seem upset with the idea the guy wants buyouts in NIL contracts and I guess you seem to think that's illegal or something? I really don't know you're spewing crazy nonsense in multiple posts in a row.

Have a good day!

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Exact quote from Grambling Coach….."NCAA if you are listening to me, I need a buyout".

Not players. NCAA.
He is requesting a penalty created by NCAA but calling it a buyout.
He could put a buyout in every NIL contract offered by Grambling without any NCAA involvement.

Actually listening to what was said is intelligent & matters. Have a good day.

The player still gets paid. It's just paid by another school. CSD is in need of some new assistant coaches. Baylor will likely have to pay buyouts for those assistants to another school. The assistants aren't being penalized they're taking a higher paying job. Baylor pays the rest of their contract out to their former school and pays the new coach via a new contract…

If in the near future the Grambling coach negotiates a $10k NIL deal over 2 years with a center and the center leaves after a year to Tulane. Tulane would pay the remainder of the contract to Grambling, not the center paying Grambling. The center would get the $50k Tulane is offering over…

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The player still gets paid. It's just paid by another school. CSD is in need of some new assistant coaches. Baylor will likely have to pay buyouts for those assistants to another school. The assistants aren't being penalized they're taking a higher paying job. Baylor pays the rest of their contract out to their former school and pays the new coach via a new contract…

If in the near future the Grambling coach negotiates a $10k NIL deal over 2 years with a center and the center leaves after a year to Tulane. Tulane would pay the remainder of the contract to Grambling, not the center paying Grambling. The center would get the $50k Tulane is offering over…

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You are missing the point.

Those coaches created a liability for early termination [if one actually exists since many assistant coach contracts are one year deals]. If a buyout exists, it is a contractual obligation which they incurred. Baylor would theoretically be assuming that obligation as part of the compensation on their new deal.

What the Grambling coach requested was the NCAA to "impose" a buyout. Despite calling it a buyout [it isn't a buyout because it was incurred by the party involved], it is a third party imposed fee. That is a MASSIVELY different animal.

First question: does the NCAA even have authority to impose such a fee. Likely not without membership approval.

Second question: What is the likelihood that P4 schools are going to agree to such penalties? Somewhere between none and no f'ing way.