Rob Wright to BYU for 3.5 million

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In reply to possible12 • 10:04p, 4/11/25
possible12 said:
Bobby20 said:
Don't hate the player, hate the game.

This will continue to happen over and over again to Baylor. Sadly, get used to it.
This particular go round is a timing issue to be able to hit thr lottery..They're working faster to close the holes of insanity. and build reasonable guard rails; Just won't go back in the tube as fast as it gushed out.

But if a kid can go from 1 mil to 3, no way he cannot. Talking culture of joy and ethics after already participating up to a point is weak.

c'mon.....if you were offered triple your current salary you'd go too. No questions, no hesitation. We all would.

I've been clear for two years now, the open portal and NIL has/will ruin college athletics as we knew it.
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In reply to Bobby20 • 12:05a, 4/12/25
Bobby20 said:
possible12 said:
Bobby20 said:
Don't hate the player, hate the game.

This will continue to happen over and over again to Baylor. Sadly, get used to it.
This particular go round is a timing issue to be able to hit thr lottery..They're working faster to close the holes of insanity. and build reasonable guard rails; Just won't go back in the tube as fast as it gushed out.

But if a kid can go from 1 mil to 3, no way he cannot. Talking culture of joy and ethics after already participating up to a point is weak.

c'mon.....if you were offered triple your current salary you'd go too. No questions, no hesitation. We all would.

I've been clear for two years now, the open portal and NIL has/will ruin college athletics as we knew it.
Maybe I was unclear. Of course the kid has to take the 3+ mil. Or even 2 or whatever. Rah, Rah team doesn;t work at those prices. And team "chemistry" has left the building.

Players are friends, of course, but small adversity in the team framework makes a team fragile fast now. Some are out the door by Christmas mentally...The word 'collegiate' is no longer. Sounds doom and gloom, but many seem to like it this way....for now.

Root of all evil and all. lol
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In reply to Bobby20 • 9:23a, 4/12/25
I hope at some point we will learn if Drew/BU were asked to counter the BYU offer. I find it hard to believe that Wright just up and left after signing his deal with us for next year. It seems to be like he (Dad) probably asked for us to up it. Of course, he could have just looked at our current roster and said he was out of here. I was hoping that he would like the idea of being the focus of the team.
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In reply to True Grit • 10:03a, 4/12/25
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I hope at some point we will learn if Drew/BU were asked to counter the BYU offer. I find it hard to believe that Wright just up and left after signing his deal with us for next year. It seems to be like he (Dad) probably asked for us to up it. Of course, he could have just looked at our current roster and said he was out of here. I was hoping that he would like the idea of being the focus of the team.


If you were the last player on the team after your freshman year, so everyone that was there was all you knew and grinded with during the offseason, left. Wouldn't you think seriously about jumping ship and taking the money elsewhere? It's a brand new team regardless of where you decide to play. At least take the money. We did a terrible job of setting him up for success year 2
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In reply to cowboycwr • 10:41a, 4/12/25
cowboycwr said:
EvilTroyAndAbed said:
cowboycwr said:
I thought our NIL was solid? Or is that more talk from the higher ups without backing it up?


There's a difference between having a solid NIL and paying one player $3.5 million.


And yet our entire team has left??? That to me makes me think there are issues with our NIL. Or some other hidden program issues.



You want to use our NIL to pay Asemota and Celestine and a frequently hurt Langston Love? I like the players we got so far to replace them. The issue is Wright, who we agreed to a seven figure deal and BYU backed up the truck and overpaid for him. Our NIL is obviously not on BYU's level, but that's because of BYU, not us.
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In reply to Jorkel • 10:44a, 4/12/25
Jorkel said:
True Grit said:
I hope at some point we will learn if Drew/BU were asked to counter the BYU offer. I find it hard to believe that Wright just up and left after signing his deal with us for next year. It seems to be like he (Dad) probably asked for us to up it. Of course, he could have just looked at our current roster and said he was out of here. I was hoping that he would like the idea of being the focus of the team.


If you were the last player on the team after your freshman year, so everyone that was there was all you knew and grinded with during the offseason, left. Wouldn't you think seriously about jumping ship and taking the money elsewhere? It's a brand new team regardless of where you decide to play. At least take the money. We did a terrible job of setting him up for success year 2


Buddy, if BYU said "Come here and we'll surround you with a bunch of 5'6" missionaries, but we'll give you $3.5 million," he would still have gone.

Quit thinking it's about being on a winning team. For many of these players, it's simply about the money.
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In reply to EvilTroyAndAbed • 10:49a, 4/12/25
EvilTroyAndAbed said:
Jorkel said:
True Grit said:
I hope at some point we will learn if Drew/BU were asked to counter the BYU offer. I find it hard to believe that Wright just up and left after signing his deal with us for next year. It seems to be like he (Dad) probably asked for us to up it. Of course, he could have just looked at our current roster and said he was out of here. I was hoping that he would like the idea of being the focus of the team.


If you were the last player on the team after your freshman year, so everyone that was there was all you knew and grinded with during the offseason, left. Wouldn't you think seriously about jumping ship and taking the money elsewhere? It's a brand new team regardless of where you decide to play. At least take the money. We did a terrible job of setting him up for success year 2


Buddy, if BYU said "Come here and we'll surround you with a bunch of 5'6" missionaries, but we'll give you $3.5 million," he would still have gone.

Quit thinking it's about being on a winning team. For many of these players, it's simply about the money.
Just ask Nico Iamaleava.
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11:56a, 4/12/25
BYU obviously did not do us this solid

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In reply to Bobby20 • 12:24p, 4/12/25
Bobby20 said:
historian said:
As I see it, NIL has potential to damage the team chemistry & cohesiveness. How would the rest of the team feel about one guy getting $3-4 million while the others got less than $1 million. They might understand if he's the next Cooper Flagg everyone expects to be the best in the country but at about someone like Wright? Is anyone predicting him to be a lottery pick next year?

Does this make any sense?
"has potential" ?

c'mon man....it already has

I'm looking from the outside in so don't know for certain. I did not want to jump to conclusions when I'm only speculating.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
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In reply to EvilTroyAndAbed • 2:44p, 4/12/25
EvilTroyAndAbed said:
cowboycwr said:
EvilTroyAndAbed said:
cowboycwr said:
I thought our NIL was solid? Or is that more talk from the higher ups without backing it up?


There's a difference between having a solid NIL and paying one player $3.5 million.


And yet our entire team has left??? That to me makes me think there are issues with our NIL. Or some other hidden program issues.



You want to use our NIL to pay Asemota and Celestine and a frequently hurt Langston Love? I like the players we got so far to replace them. The issue is Wright, who we agreed to a seven figure deal and BYU backed up the truck and overpaid for him. Our NIL is obviously not on BYU's level, but that's because of BYU, not us.
BYU is funded by the Mormons....that's a big bank account to pull from...
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5:37p, 4/12/25
Yes please

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In reply to EvilTroyAndAbed • 8:06p, 4/12/25
EvilTroyAndAbed said:
cowboycwr said:
EvilTroyAndAbed said:
cowboycwr said:
I thought our NIL was solid? Or is that more talk from the higher ups without backing it up?


There's a difference between having a solid NIL and paying one player $3.5 million.


And yet our entire team has left??? That to me makes me think there are issues with our NIL. Or some other hidden program issues.



You want to use our NIL to pay Asemota and Celestine and a frequently hurt Langston Love? I like the players we got so far to replace them. The issue is Wright, who we agreed to a seven figure deal and BYU backed up the truck and overpaid for him. Our NIL is obviously not on BYU's level, but that's because of BYU, not us.


I didn't say that.

I just said that if our entire team left then to me it screams we have issues with our NIL. We could have let the 3 you mentioned go and spent the money to retain others…. But we didn't retain anyone.

So again to me that screams we have an issue with NIL.
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In reply to boognish_bear • 8:08p, 4/12/25
Money can buy talent. It can't buy chemistry. It takes both to win a Natty.

This wild west of money spending will be a short period in the grand scheme of the history of college basketball because the economics will eventually adjust, but it's gonna be interesting to see the number of schools attempting to disprove the statements above and how they go about it.
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In reply to boognish_bear • 8:08p, 4/12/25
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HS recruiting hardly matters anymore. Just recruit once they do good at another school if you have a big NIL fund to use.
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In reply to cowboycwr • 8:26p, 4/12/25
cowboycwr said:
EvilTroyAndAbed said:
cowboycwr said:
EvilTroyAndAbed said:
cowboycwr said:
I thought our NIL was solid? Or is that more talk from the higher ups without backing it up?


There's a difference between having a solid NIL and paying one player $3.5 million.


And yet our entire team has left??? That to me makes me think there are issues with our NIL. Or some other hidden program issues.



You want to use our NIL to pay Asemota and Celestine and a frequently hurt Langston Love? I like the players we got so far to replace them. The issue is Wright, who we agreed to a seven figure deal and BYU backed up the truck and overpaid for him. Our NIL is obviously not on BYU's level, but that's because of BYU, not us.


I didn't say that.

I just said that if our entire team left then to me it screams we have issues with our NIL. We could have let the 3 you mentioned go and spent the money to retain others…. But we didn't retain anyone.

So again to me that screams we have an issue with NIL.


Retain others? Who are you talking about?

Omier out of eligibility
Roach out of eligibility
Nunn out of eligibility
Edgecombe will be an NBA lottery pick
I guess you're talking about Josh O, and we don't know what is up there except he probably won't be healthy when the season starts no matter where he goes.

So we have gotten four players in the transfer portal and a 5-star freshman. I like the guys transferring in better than those transferring out (except obviously Wright and Love if he were healthy, which is a crapshoot).

You seem to imply that Wright left because other players left. He left because he was offered nearly 3 times as much as we signed him to (which in my opinion was more than fair). It didn't matter who was or was not coming back. He was leaving no matter what. It doesn't make our NIL bad. It's just not at BYU's level where we can throw around money at anyone in the country.

It's not unlike Tennessee football except Wright didn't give us a chance to turn him down, which we most certainly would have (and gotten good PR over the way Tennessee is now). He simply took the money and ran.
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In reply to cowboycwr • 8:36p, 4/12/25
cowboycwr said:
boognish_bear said:


HS recruiting hardly matters anymore. Just recruit once they do good at another school if you have a big NIL fund to use.


Whatever happened to that dude that was our prize recruit….till signing day?
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In reply to boognish_bear • 8:38p, 4/12/25
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Man I enjoyed every ounce of Art Briles and lived it up more than most any other schools' fans for near a decade and then what Scott Drew did.

With all this stupidity now, I really don't care much. We win the last championship before the basketball game in college was ruined forever. Now, who cares.
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In reply to EvilTroyAndAbed • 9:16p, 4/12/25
It is odd to see so many just assume that there must be something wrong with the staff that is leading to the empty roster spots when in reality it's like you said: 1) players out of eligibility/going to the NBA 2) rob wright 3) guys getting effectively dismissed. Lang was unreliable & Celestine, Asemota & Dubravcic weren't trusted to contribute to depth unless desperately needed. Then there's Adegbola, Jackson & Ndjonga. Jackson is fielding offers from William & Mary, Colgate & Harvard - so that maybe clues us into where the staff were at with him. So NIL is causing issues, absolutely. Who knows what this will all look like in 2026, but today Baylor is STILL a competitor. Still landing top recruits and respectfully letting go of guys who don't meet the standard, as they should be.
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In reply to EvilTroyAndAbed • 11:15a, 4/13/25
EvilTroyAndAbed said:
cowboycwr said:
EvilTroyAndAbed said:
cowboycwr said:
EvilTroyAndAbed said:
cowboycwr said:
I thought our NIL was solid? Or is that more talk from the higher ups without backing it up?


There's a difference between having a solid NIL and paying one player $3.5 million.


And yet our entire team has left??? That to me makes me think there are issues with our NIL. Or some other hidden program issues.



You want to use our NIL to pay Asemota and Celestine and a frequently hurt Langston Love? I like the players we got so far to replace them. The issue is Wright, who we agreed to a seven figure deal and BYU backed up the truck and overpaid for him. Our NIL is obviously not on BYU's level, but that's because of BYU, not us.


I didn't say that.

I just said that if our entire team left then to me it screams we have issues with our NIL. We could have let the 3 you mentioned go and spent the money to retain others…. But we didn't retain anyone.

So again to me that screams we have an issue with NIL.


Retain others? Who are you talking about?

Omier out of eligibility
Roach out of eligibility
Nunn out of eligibility
Edgecombe will be an NBA lottery pick
I guess you're talking about Josh O, and we don't know what is up there except he probably won't be healthy when the season starts no matter where he goes.

So we have gotten four players in the transfer portal and a 5-star freshman. I like the guys transferring in better than those transferring out (except obviously Wright and Love if he were healthy, which is a crapshoot).

You seem to imply that Wright left because other players left. He left because he was offered nearly 3 times as much as we signed him to (which in my opinion was more than fair). It didn't matter who was or was not coming back. He was leaving no matter what. It doesn't make our NIL bad. It's just not at BYU's level where we can throw around money at anyone in the country.

It's not unlike Tennessee football except Wright didn't give us a chance to turn him down, which we most certainly would have (and gotten good PR over the way Tennessee is now). He simply took the money and ran.


Wow I had no idea we only had 6 guys on our roster!!!

Oh wait we didn't.

I didn't imply anything about Wright. You are putting words in my mouth.

We had our entire roster leave. Yes some were due to eligibility or the NBA but all the others left the program for other reasons. To me that is a problem. You may disagree but that is my opinion.
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In reply to boognish_bear • 11:41a, 4/13/25
!!!!!!!!!!

Two things:

1) We can at least field a team now - White & Agbim at guard, Yessoufou at wing, Rataj at PF and this guy at center with Carr the 6th man (or interchanged with one of the guards or Yessoufou as a starter). Hopefully we can come up with a few more guys who can play at a Big 12 level.

2) At least we'll finally have some height again with Rataj at 6-9 and this guy at 7-0.
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In reply to cowboycwr • 12:05p, 4/13/25
cowboycwr said:
EvilTroyAndAbed said:
cowboycwr said:
EvilTroyAndAbed said:
cowboycwr said:
EvilTroyAndAbed said:
cowboycwr said:
I thought our NIL was solid? Or is that more talk from the higher ups without backing it up?


There's a difference between having a solid NIL and paying one player $3.5 million.


And yet our entire team has left??? That to me makes me think there are issues with our NIL. Or some other hidden program issues.



You want to use our NIL to pay Asemota and Celestine and a frequently hurt Langston Love? I like the players we got so far to replace them. The issue is Wright, who we agreed to a seven figure deal and BYU backed up the truck and overpaid for him. Our NIL is obviously not on BYU's level, but that's because of BYU, not us.


I didn't say that.

I just said that if our entire team left then to me it screams we have issues with our NIL. We could have let the 3 you mentioned go and spent the money to retain others…. But we didn't retain anyone.

So again to me that screams we have an issue with NIL.


Retain others? Who are you talking about?

Omier out of eligibility
Roach out of eligibility
Nunn out of eligibility
Edgecombe will be an NBA lottery pick
I guess you're talking about Josh O, and we don't know what is up there except he probably won't be healthy when the season starts no matter where he goes.

So we have gotten four players in the transfer portal and a 5-star freshman. I like the guys transferring in better than those transferring out (except obviously Wright and Love if he were healthy, which is a crapshoot).

You seem to imply that Wright left because other players left. He left because he was offered nearly 3 times as much as we signed him to (which in my opinion was more than fair). It didn't matter who was or was not coming back. He was leaving no matter what. It doesn't make our NIL bad. It's just not at BYU's level where we can throw around money at anyone in the country.

It's not unlike Tennessee football except Wright didn't give us a chance to turn him down, which we most certainly would have (and gotten good PR over the way Tennessee is now). He simply took the money and ran.


Wow I had no idea we only had 6 guys on our roster!!!

Oh wait we didn't.

I didn't imply anything about Wright. You are putting words in my mouth.

We had our entire roster leave. Yes some were due to eligibility or the NBA but all the others left the program for other reasons. To me that is a problem. You may disagree but that is my opinion.


Name me the other guys on the roster who left this season who were essential for us to contend next year and who left because we supposedly have an NIL issue.
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12:40p, 4/13/25
Perspective from an outsider

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In reply to EvilTroyAndAbed • 12:58p, 4/13/25
can't be done
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2:58p, 4/13/25
It is a troubling pattern. I looked at the Final 4 scoreboard to see LJ Cryer the top scorer for a great Houston team.

Drew has only ever done well with upper classmen, and not only him.... unless you are Kentucky of old, you either need top 20 recruits to go deep, or upper classmen.

We will never field 5 top 20 players, or top 50. So what we have to do is pivot to being a team where a good player can learn NBA skills, which means NBA assistants. I think that is where we can have an edge. We just got a 7 footer, now get an NBA big man assistant coach to coach him up.

As long as we are a middle grade team, we will simply be a place where an average player can flash some talent on a big stage, in a top conference, and hope to get picked up by schools with money.
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In reply to EvilTroyAndAbed • 7:34p, 4/13/25
EvilTroyAndAbed said:
cowboycwr said:
EvilTroyAndAbed said:
cowboycwr said:
EvilTroyAndAbed said:
cowboycwr said:
EvilTroyAndAbed said:
cowboycwr said:
I thought our NIL was solid? Or is that more talk from the higher ups without backing it up?


There's a difference between having a solid NIL and paying one player $3.5 million.


And yet our entire team has left??? That to me makes me think there are issues with our NIL. Or some other hidden program issues.



You want to use our NIL to pay Asemota and Celestine and a frequently hurt Langston Love? I like the players we got so far to replace them. The issue is Wright, who we agreed to a seven figure deal and BYU backed up the truck and overpaid for him. Our NIL is obviously not on BYU's level, but that's because of BYU, not us.


I didn't say that.

I just said that if our entire team left then to me it screams we have issues with our NIL. We could have let the 3 you mentioned go and spent the money to retain others…. But we didn't retain anyone.

So again to me that screams we have an issue with NIL.


Retain others? Who are you talking about?

Omier out of eligibility
Roach out of eligibility
Nunn out of eligibility
Edgecombe will be an NBA lottery pick
I guess you're talking about Josh O, and we don't know what is up there except he probably won't be healthy when the season starts no matter where he goes.

So we have gotten four players in the transfer portal and a 5-star freshman. I like the guys transferring in better than those transferring out (except obviously Wright and Love if he were healthy, which is a crapshoot).

You seem to imply that Wright left because other players left. He left because he was offered nearly 3 times as much as we signed him to (which in my opinion was more than fair). It didn't matter who was or was not coming back. He was leaving no matter what. It doesn't make our NIL bad. It's just not at BYU's level where we can throw around money at anyone in the country.

It's not unlike Tennessee football except Wright didn't give us a chance to turn him down, which we most certainly would have (and gotten good PR over the way Tennessee is now). He simply took the money and ran.


Wow I had no idea we only had 6 guys on our roster!!!

Oh wait we didn't.

I didn't imply anything about Wright. You are putting words in my mouth.

We had our entire roster leave. Yes some were due to eligibility or the NBA but all the others left the program for other reasons. To me that is a problem. You may disagree but that is my opinion.


Name me the other guys on the roster who left this season who were essential for us to contend next year and who left because we supposedly have an NIL issue.


Oh I see. You are one of those that as soon as a player leaves it means we don't need them or they aren't good. Which then highlights the issue of our coaching staff can't identify talent or develop talent and can only bring in other guys already developed.


Got it.

So yeah no problem with our program at all in your eyes no matter how many guys leave for any reason.





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In reply to Big12Fan2024 • 8:54p, 4/13/25
Big12Fan2024 said:
!!!!!!!!!!

Two things:

1) We can at least field a team now - White & Agbim at guard, Yessoufou at wing, Rataj at PF and this guy at center with Carr the 6th man (or interchanged with one of the guards or Yessoufou as a starter). Hopefully we can come up with a few more guys who can play at a Big 12 level.

2) At least we'll finally have some height again with Rataj at 6-9 and this guy at 7-0.
Need a point. Omaha is a nice back up to keep the pressure on. But need a high level point to have any chance next year. Obviously depth pieces too but everyone knows that.
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In reply to cowboycwr • 9:31p, 4/13/25
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I thought our NIL was solid? Or is that more talk from the higher ups without backing it up?


There's a difference between having a solid NIL and paying one player $3.5 million.


And yet our entire team has left??? That to me makes me think there are issues with our NIL. Or some other hidden program issues.



You want to use our NIL to pay Asemota and Celestine and a frequently hurt Langston Love? I like the players we got so far to replace them. The issue is Wright, who we agreed to a seven figure deal and BYU backed up the truck and overpaid for him. Our NIL is obviously not on BYU's level, but that's because of BYU, not us.


I didn't say that.

I just said that if our entire team left then to me it screams we have issues with our NIL. We could have let the 3 you mentioned go and spent the money to retain others…. But we didn't retain anyone.

So again to me that screams we have an issue with NIL.


Retain others? Who are you talking about?

Omier out of eligibility
Roach out of eligibility
Nunn out of eligibility
Edgecombe will be an NBA lottery pick
I guess you're talking about Josh O, and we don't know what is up there except he probably won't be healthy when the season starts no matter where he goes.

So we have gotten four players in the transfer portal and a 5-star freshman. I like the guys transferring in better than those transferring out (except obviously Wright and Love if he were healthy, which is a crapshoot).

You seem to imply that Wright left because other players left. He left because he was offered nearly 3 times as much as we signed him to (which in my opinion was more than fair). It didn't matter who was or was not coming back. He was leaving no matter what. It doesn't make our NIL bad. It's just not at BYU's level where we can throw around money at anyone in the country.

It's not unlike Tennessee football except Wright didn't give us a chance to turn him down, which we most certainly would have (and gotten good PR over the way Tennessee is now). He simply took the money and ran.


Wow I had no idea we only had 6 guys on our roster!!!

Oh wait we didn't.

I didn't imply anything about Wright. You are putting words in my mouth.

We had our entire roster leave. Yes some were due to eligibility or the NBA but all the others left the program for other reasons. To me that is a problem. You may disagree but that is my opinion.


Name me the other guys on the roster who left this season who were essential for us to contend next year and who left because we supposedly have an NIL issue.


Oh I see. You are one of those that as soon as a player leaves it means we don't need them or they aren't good. Which then highlights the issue of our coaching staff can't identify talent or develop talent and can only bring in other guys already developed.


Got it.

So yeah no problem with our program at all in your eyes no matter how many guys leave for any reason.



Now who's putting words in whose mouth? We missed on a few guys. Every team does sooner or later. But we're not having this conversation if BYU doesn't wildly overpay for Wright. In fact, we're simply talking about the transfers coming in.

We're not at the top of the heap right now. We're a good program who will have a ton of question marks next year, and I'm willing to give Drew and the staff the benefit of the doubt. But not paying one guy $3.5 million is not an NIL issue to me.
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In reply to EvilTroyAndAbed • 9:51p, 4/13/25
EvilTroyAndAbed said:
cowboycwr said:
EvilTroyAndAbed said:
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cowboycwr said:
EvilTroyAndAbed said:
cowboycwr said:
EvilTroyAndAbed said:
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I thought our NIL was solid? Or is that more talk from the higher ups without backing it up?


There's a difference between having a solid NIL and paying one player $3.5 million.


And yet our entire team has left??? That to me makes me think there are issues with our NIL. Or some other hidden program issues.



You want to use our NIL to pay Asemota and Celestine and a frequently hurt Langston Love? I like the players we got so far to replace them. The issue is Wright, who we agreed to a seven figure deal and BYU backed up the truck and overpaid for him. Our NIL is obviously not on BYU's level, but that's because of BYU, not us.


I didn't say that.

I just said that if our entire team left then to me it screams we have issues with our NIL. We could have let the 3 you mentioned go and spent the money to retain others…. But we didn't retain anyone.

So again to me that screams we have an issue with NIL.


Retain others? Who are you talking about?

Omier out of eligibility
Roach out of eligibility
Nunn out of eligibility
Edgecombe will be an NBA lottery pick
I guess you're talking about Josh O, and we don't know what is up there except he probably won't be healthy when the season starts no matter where he goes.

So we have gotten four players in the transfer portal and a 5-star freshman. I like the guys transferring in better than those transferring out (except obviously Wright and Love if he were healthy, which is a crapshoot).

You seem to imply that Wright left because other players left. He left because he was offered nearly 3 times as much as we signed him to (which in my opinion was more than fair). It didn't matter who was or was not coming back. He was leaving no matter what. It doesn't make our NIL bad. It's just not at BYU's level where we can throw around money at anyone in the country.

It's not unlike Tennessee football except Wright didn't give us a chance to turn him down, which we most certainly would have (and gotten good PR over the way Tennessee is now). He simply took the money and ran.


Wow I had no idea we only had 6 guys on our roster!!!

Oh wait we didn't.

I didn't imply anything about Wright. You are putting words in my mouth.

We had our entire roster leave. Yes some were due to eligibility or the NBA but all the others left the program for other reasons. To me that is a problem. You may disagree but that is my opinion.


Name me the other guys on the roster who left this season who were essential for us to contend next year and who left because we supposedly have an NIL issue.


Oh I see. You are one of those that as soon as a player leaves it means we don't need them or they aren't good. Which then highlights the issue of our coaching staff can't identify talent or develop talent and can only bring in other guys already developed.


Got it.

So yeah no problem with our program at all in your eyes no matter how many guys leave for any reason.



Now who's putting words in whose mouth? We missed on a few guys. Every team does sooner or later. But we're not having this conversation if BYU doesn't wildly overpay for Wright. In fact, we're simply talking about the transfers coming in.

We're not at the top of the heap right now. We're a good program who will have a ton of question marks next year, and I'm willing to give Drew and the staff the benefit of the doubt. But not paying one guy $3.5 million is not an NIL issue to me.


You seem to only be focusing on one guy and missing what I am saying.

Our entire team is gone. You can dismiss the 4 that are leaving for eligibility or NBA as normal. What cannot be normal is the entire rest of the roster leaving. And to dismiss it as "they aren't guys we need or want" screams there are other issues.

So it is either we have an NIL problem for our ENTIRE roster to go seek money/playing time elsewhere, a miss on multiple guys all at once, a development issue, or a combination of all of the above at once.

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In reply to cowboycwr • 7:14a, 4/14/25
cowboycwr said:
EvilTroyAndAbed said:
cowboycwr said:
EvilTroyAndAbed said:
cowboycwr said:
EvilTroyAndAbed said:
cowboycwr said:
EvilTroyAndAbed said:
cowboycwr said:
EvilTroyAndAbed said:
cowboycwr said:
I thought our NIL was solid? Or is that more talk from the higher ups without backing it up?


There's a difference between having a solid NIL and paying one player $3.5 million.


And yet our entire team has left??? That to me makes me think there are issues with our NIL. Or some other hidden program issues.



You want to use our NIL to pay Asemota and Celestine and a frequently hurt Langston Love? I like the players we got so far to replace them. The issue is Wright, who we agreed to a seven figure deal and BYU backed up the truck and overpaid for him. Our NIL is obviously not on BYU's level, but that's because of BYU, not us.


I didn't say that.

I just said that if our entire team left then to me it screams we have issues with our NIL. We could have let the 3 you mentioned go and spent the money to retain others…. But we didn't retain anyone.

So again to me that screams we have an issue with NIL.


Retain others? Who are you talking about?

Omier out of eligibility
Roach out of eligibility
Nunn out of eligibility
Edgecombe will be an NBA lottery pick
I guess you're talking about Josh O, and we don't know what is up there except he probably won't be healthy when the season starts no matter where he goes.

So we have gotten four players in the transfer portal and a 5-star freshman. I like the guys transferring in better than those transferring out (except obviously Wright and Love if he were healthy, which is a crapshoot).

You seem to imply that Wright left because other players left. He left because he was offered nearly 3 times as much as we signed him to (which in my opinion was more than fair). It didn't matter who was or was not coming back. He was leaving no matter what. It doesn't make our NIL bad. It's just not at BYU's level where we can throw around money at anyone in the country.

It's not unlike Tennessee football except Wright didn't give us a chance to turn him down, which we most certainly would have (and gotten good PR over the way Tennessee is now). He simply took the money and ran.


Wow I had no idea we only had 6 guys on our roster!!!

Oh wait we didn't.

I didn't imply anything about Wright. You are putting words in my mouth.

We had our entire roster leave. Yes some were due to eligibility or the NBA but all the others left the program for other reasons. To me that is a problem. You may disagree but that is my opinion.


Name me the other guys on the roster who left this season who were essential for us to contend next year and who left because we supposedly have an NIL issue.


Oh I see. You are one of those that as soon as a player leaves it means we don't need them or they aren't good. Which then highlights the issue of our coaching staff can't identify talent or develop talent and can only bring in other guys already developed.


Got it.

So yeah no problem with our program at all in your eyes no matter how many guys leave for any reason.



Now who's putting words in whose mouth? We missed on a few guys. Every team does sooner or later. But we're not having this conversation if BYU doesn't wildly overpay for Wright. In fact, we're simply talking about the transfers coming in.

We're not at the top of the heap right now. We're a good program who will have a ton of question marks next year, and I'm willing to give Drew and the staff the benefit of the doubt. But not paying one guy $3.5 million is not an NIL issue to me.


You seem to only be focusing on one guy and missing what I am saying.

Our entire team is gone. You can dismiss the 4 that are leaving for eligibility or NBA as normal. What cannot be normal is the entire rest of the roster leaving. And to dismiss it as "they aren't guys we need or want" screams there are other issues.

So it is either we have an NIL problem for our ENTIRE roster to go seek money/playing time elsewhere, a miss on multiple guys all at once, a development issue, or a combination of all of the above at once.



Fine. You win. Drew's lost it. I guess I'll go get some BYU gear.
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Did Wright ever visit the campus? Do we know if he liked it? The dorm and food? Did the family know the campus is in Provo? BYU does have a few satellite campuses. I am worried about them and whether they got lost or not.
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