VJ was custom built for the NBA. So was Keyonte.

I think VJ's athleticism can carry him to a successful NBA career. I worried about his shot, but it seems to be translating just fine to the league.

The Sixers are still probably not yet an elite Eastern Conference team, but VJ might have landed in a perfect spot playing alongside Maxey. They've been super fun to watch, and the Sixers fans I know are super hyped over VJ.

76er's are in a good spot. Got some guys still dealing with injuries but if VJ can keep this up - - Wow...

Huge Sixers fan here since the days of Dr. J.

Sixers fans always have the Sword of Damlacles hovering over waiting for bad news

Paul George and hotshot rookie McLain still injured so not sure how it's all gonna work when they come back.

82-0 baby!

Hotsauce said:

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VJ was custom built for the NBA. So was Keyonte.

I think VJ's athleticism can carry him to a successful NBA career. I worried about his shot, but it seems to be translating just fine to the league.

The Sixers are still probably not yet an elite Eastern Conference team, but VJ might have landed in a perfect spot playing alongside Maxey. They've been super fun to watch, and the Sixers fans I know are super hyped over VJ.

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Please don't mention VJ and Keyonte in the same sentence.

Updated rookie of the year odds:

1. Cooper Flagg - 48%
2. VJ Edgecombe - 40%

(Via @PlayProphetX / https://t.co/F1e8y69T86) pic.twitter.com/oVzjXhJOvH

— NBACentral (@TheDunkCentral) October 28, 2025

Crawfoso1973 said:

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Hotsauce said:

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VJ was custom built for the NBA. So was Keyonte.

I think VJ's athleticism can carry him to a successful NBA career. I worried about his shot, but it seems to be translating just fine to the league.

The Sixers are still probably not yet an elite Eastern Conference team, but VJ might have landed in a perfect spot playing alongside Maxey. They've been super fun to watch, and the Sixers fans I know are super hyped over VJ.

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Please don't mention VJ and Keyonte in the same sentence.

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George is progressing nicely. He's taking point, having just as good a start to this season as VJ. If he averages close to 20 and gives you 7&3 , he's in the top 10 mix. Also, he's been doing that in 30 min, pretty efficient. His downfall is his 3P%, he needs improve there.

1) that team should have been so much better. Had nothing outside of Vj and Omier

2) Crazy Duke didn't win the title. Both of their freshman were so good. They'll be replaying that 2nd half for a long time.

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boognish_bear said:

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Updated rookie of the year odds:

1. Cooper Flagg - 48%
2. VJ Edgecombe - 40%

(Via @PlayProphetX / https://t.co/F1e8y69T86) pic.twitter.com/oVzjXhJOvH

— NBACentral (@TheDunkCentral) October 28, 2025

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It's a long season but it seems hard to imagine how VJ wouldn't be the odds on favorite at this point.

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Because it's a long season...

Exactly. Yves Missi got off to a torrid start last year.

Keyonte is not having just as good a start to his season as VJ. That is laughable. I do hope he is improved because this is a make or break season for him. So far in this early season he is shooting 41%. He has been a career 39% shooter. If he can't figure out his shooting he will be a career backup/journeyman not a franchise PG.

This didn't age well....Keyonte dropped 31 on the Celtics last night....

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This didn't age well....Keyonte dropped 31 on the Celtics last night....

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Keyonte has had good games before. He's also been a horribly inefficient scorer his entire career -- both college and pro.

When the letter changes over a fair sample of games, I'll be more willing to entertain the gotcha posts we see the handful of times a year he shoots better than 40 percent from the field.

K George plays on a really bad team.

Anyone who watches Browns or Jets QBs leave to decent teams and magically become 5000% better understands the issue.

Put George on a decent team and then folks will know his worth.
The Jazz are the Browns with more Mormons in the crowd.

This was posted today. Harper going down will help his odds. It's a long season obviously but so far he looks really good. His athleticism makes him so hard to guard.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/dylan-harpers-injury-turns-the-nbas-rookie-of-the-year-race-into-a-v-j-edgecombe-cooper-flagg-battle/

Adriacus Peratuun said:

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K George plays on a really bad team.

Anyone who watches Browns or Jets QBs leave to decent teams and magically become 5000% better understands the issue.

Put George on a decent team and then folks will know his worth.
The Jazz are the Browns with more Mormons in the crowd.

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If George was on a good team, he'd a third- or fourth option, at best, and potentially even a backup point guard. He's the type of guy that gets a lot of run on bad teams, puts up big volume numbers and then has his role right-sized if/when he ever makes it to a championship contender.

The problem is I don't think his game fits in well with a winning formula because his shot selection has never matched his actual perimeter shooting ability. He's just going to keep chucking whether shots fall or not, with years of evidence now that 3-point shots are low-percentage propositions for him.

He's an Antoine Walker type who will shoot you out of as many games as he shoots you into.

bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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K George plays on a really bad team.

Anyone who watches Browns or Jets QBs leave to decent teams and magically become 5000% better understands the issue.

Put George on a decent team and then folks will know his worth.
The Jazz are the Browns with more Mormons in the crowd.

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If George was on a good team, he'd a third- or fourth option, at best, and potentially even a backup point guard. He's the type of guy that gets a lot of run on bad teams, puts up big volume numbers and then has his role right-sized if/when he ever makes it to a championship contender.

The problem is I don't think his game fits in well with a winning formula because his shot selection has never matched his actual perimeter shooting ability. He's just going to keep chucking whether shots fall or not, with years of evidence now that 3-point shots are low-percentage propositions for him.

He's an Antoine Walker type who will shoot you out of as many games as he shoots you into.

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Please list all of the good NBA teams he has played on.

opinions without any direct supporting data should come with an asterisk

Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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K George plays on a really bad team.

Anyone who watches Browns or Jets QBs leave to decent teams and magically become 5000% better understands the issue.

Put George on a decent team and then folks will know his worth.
The Jazz are the Browns with more Mormons in the crowd.

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If George was on a good team, he'd a third- or fourth option, at best, and potentially even a backup point guard. He's the type of guy that gets a lot of run on bad teams, puts up big volume numbers and then has his role right-sized if/when he ever makes it to a championship contender.

The problem is I don't think his game fits in well with a winning formula because his shot selection has never matched his actual perimeter shooting ability. He's just going to keep chucking whether shots fall or not, with years of evidence now that 3-point shots are low-percentage propositions for him.

He's an Antoine Walker type who will shoot you out of as many games as he shoots you into.

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Please list all of the good NBA teams he has played on.

opinions without any direct supporting data should come with an asterisk

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Are you under the impression that Keyonte George would be allowed to play the way he currently plays on a good team? If not, I'm not even sure which part you're disagreeing with.

George is a volume scoring point guard who plays turnstyle defense. He's the type of guy who plays a lot his career on bad teams because good teams don't have any use for guys like that.

bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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K George plays on a really bad team.

Anyone who watches Browns or Jets QBs leave to decent teams and magically become 5000% better understands the issue.

Put George on a decent team and then folks will know his worth.
The Jazz are the Browns with more Mormons in the crowd.

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If George was on a good team, he'd a third- or fourth option, at best, and potentially even a backup point guard. He's the type of guy that gets a lot of run on bad teams, puts up big volume numbers and then has his role right-sized if/when he ever makes it to a championship contender.

The problem is I don't think his game fits in well with a winning formula because his shot selection has never matched his actual perimeter shooting ability. He's just going to keep chucking whether shots fall or not, with years of evidence now that 3-point shots are low-percentage propositions for him.

He's an Antoine Walker type who will shoot you out of as many games as he shoots you into.

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Please list all of the good NBA teams he has played on.

opinions without any direct supporting data should come with an asterisk

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Are you under the impression that Keyonte George would be allowed to play the way he currently plays on a good team? If not, I'm not even sure which part you're disagreeing with.

George is a volume scoring point guard who plays turnstyle defense. He's the type of guy who plays a lot his career on bad teams because good teams don't have any use for guys like that.

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How many chances at free agency and the decisions made therein are you basing that opinion on?

Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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K George plays on a really bad team.

Anyone who watches Browns or Jets QBs leave to decent teams and magically become 5000% better understands the issue.

Put George on a decent team and then folks will know his worth.
The Jazz are the Browns with more Mormons in the crowd.

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If George was on a good team, he'd a third- or fourth option, at best, and potentially even a backup point guard. He's the type of guy that gets a lot of run on bad teams, puts up big volume numbers and then has his role right-sized if/when he ever makes it to a championship contender.

The problem is I don't think his game fits in well with a winning formula because his shot selection has never matched his actual perimeter shooting ability. He's just going to keep chucking whether shots fall or not, with years of evidence now that 3-point shots are low-percentage propositions for him.

He's an Antoine Walker type who will shoot you out of as many games as he shoots you into.

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Please list all of the good NBA teams he has played on.

opinions without any direct supporting data should come with an asterisk

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Are you under the impression that Keyonte George would be allowed to play the way he currently plays on a good team? If not, I'm not even sure which part you're disagreeing with.

George is a volume scoring point guard who plays turnstyle defense. He's the type of guy who plays a lot his career on bad teams because good teams don't have any use for guys like that.

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How many chances at free agency and the decisions made therein are you basing that opinion on?

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I'm basing it on three decades of observation. Ten years from now, people like you will still be saying, "If Keyonte had only gotten a chance ..." ignoring the fact that he's been a big part of the reason the teams he's been on have sucked as badly as they have. He's been better this year, and we'll see if that holds. But he's still shooting sub-30 percent from 3 (while taking way too many shots from distance) and playing terrible defense.

If/when he ever does get a chance to play for a good team, he'll either fail playing the way he currently does or adapt to a lesser role that better fits a winning formula. Antoine Walker finally did that with Miami and Jason Terry did it with Dallas. But those guys were sixth men on championship teams.

bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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K George plays on a really bad team.

Anyone who watches Browns or Jets QBs leave to decent teams and magically become 5000% better understands the issue.

Put George on a decent team and then folks will know his worth.
The Jazz are the Browns with more Mormons in the crowd.

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If George was on a good team, he'd a third- or fourth option, at best, and potentially even a backup point guard. He's the type of guy that gets a lot of run on bad teams, puts up big volume numbers and then has his role right-sized if/when he ever makes it to a championship contender.

The problem is I don't think his game fits in well with a winning formula because his shot selection has never matched his actual perimeter shooting ability. He's just going to keep chucking whether shots fall or not, with years of evidence now that 3-point shots are low-percentage propositions for him.

He's an Antoine Walker type who will shoot you out of as many games as he shoots you into.

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Please list all of the good NBA teams he has played on.

opinions without any direct supporting data should come with an asterisk

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Are you under the impression that Keyonte George would be allowed to play the way he currently plays on a good team? If not, I'm not even sure which part you're disagreeing with.

George is a volume scoring point guard who plays turnstyle defense. He's the type of guy who plays a lot his career on bad teams because good teams don't have any use for guys like that.

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How many chances at free agency and the decisions made therein are you basing that opinion on?

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I'm basing it on three decades of observation. Ten years from now, people like you will still be saying, "If Keyonte had only gotten a chance ..." ignoring the fact that he's been a big part of the reason the teams he's been on have sucked as badly as they have. He's been better this year, and we'll see if that holds. But he's still shooting sub-30 percent from 3 (while taking way too many shots from distance) and playing terrible defense.

If/when he ever does get a chance to play for a good team, he'll either fail playing the way he currently does or adapt to a lesser role that better fits a winning formula. Antoine Walker finally did that with Miami and Jason Terry did it with Dallas. But those guys were third or fourth options on championship teams.

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Two current players who radically altered their career path after a trade: SGA and Halliburton.

Historical examples are too many to note.

Environment matters in a BIG way.

Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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K George plays on a really bad team.

Anyone who watches Browns or Jets QBs leave to decent teams and magically become 5000% better understands the issue.

Put George on a decent team and then folks will know his worth.
The Jazz are the Browns with more Mormons in the crowd.

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If George was on a good team, he'd a third- or fourth option, at best, and potentially even a backup point guard. He's the type of guy that gets a lot of run on bad teams, puts up big volume numbers and then has his role right-sized if/when he ever makes it to a championship contender.

The problem is I don't think his game fits in well with a winning formula because his shot selection has never matched his actual perimeter shooting ability. He's just going to keep chucking whether shots fall or not, with years of evidence now that 3-point shots are low-percentage propositions for him.

He's an Antoine Walker type who will shoot you out of as many games as he shoots you into.

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Please list all of the good NBA teams he has played on.

opinions without any direct supporting data should come with an asterisk

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Are you under the impression that Keyonte George would be allowed to play the way he currently plays on a good team? If not, I'm not even sure which part you're disagreeing with.

George is a volume scoring point guard who plays turnstyle defense. He's the type of guy who plays a lot his career on bad teams because good teams don't have any use for guys like that.

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How many chances at free agency and the decisions made therein are you basing that opinion on?

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I'm basing it on three decades of observation. Ten years from now, people like you will still be saying, "If Keyonte had only gotten a chance ..." ignoring the fact that he's been a big part of the reason the teams he's been on have sucked as badly as they have. He's been better this year, and we'll see if that holds. But he's still shooting sub-30 percent from 3 (while taking way too many shots from distance) and playing terrible defense.

If/when he ever does get a chance to play for a good team, he'll either fail playing the way he currently does or adapt to a lesser role that better fits a winning formula. Antoine Walker finally did that with Miami and Jason Terry did it with Dallas. But those guys were third or fourth options on championship teams.

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Two current players who radically altered their career path after a trade: SGA and Halliburton.

Historical examples are too many to note.

Environment matters in a BIG way.

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Obviously, but both of those guys were more efficient players as rookies for their original teams than George has been after two-plus seasons worth of NBA games.

And SGA might have broken out in LA if given enough time. They threw him in the Paul George trade after one season in which he finished sixth in the rookie of the year voting.

bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Adriacus Peratuun said:

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K George plays on a really bad team.

Anyone who watches Browns or Jets QBs leave to decent teams and magically become 5000% better understands the issue.

Put George on a decent team and then folks will know his worth.
The Jazz are the Browns with more Mormons in the crowd.

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If George was on a good team, he'd a third- or fourth option, at best, and potentially even a backup point guard. He's the type of guy that gets a lot of run on bad teams, puts up big volume numbers and then has his role right-sized if/when he ever makes it to a championship contender.

The problem is I don't think his game fits in well with a winning formula because his shot selection has never matched his actual perimeter shooting ability. He's just going to keep chucking whether shots fall or not, with years of evidence now that 3-point shots are low-percentage propositions for him.

He's an Antoine Walker type who will shoot you out of as many games as he shoots you into.

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Please list all of the good NBA teams he has played on.

opinions without any direct supporting data should come with an asterisk

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Are you under the impression that Keyonte George would be allowed to play the way he currently plays on a good team? If not, I'm not even sure which part you're disagreeing with.

George is a volume scoring point guard who plays turnstyle defense. He's the type of guy who plays a lot his career on bad teams because good teams don't have any use for guys like that.

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How many chances at free agency and the decisions made therein are you basing that opinion on?

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I'm basing it on three decades of observation. Ten years from now, people like you will still be saying, "If Keyonte had only gotten a chance ..." ignoring the fact that he's been a big part of the reason the teams he's been on have sucked as badly as they have. He's been better this year, and we'll see if that holds. But he's still shooting sub-30 percent from 3 (while taking way too many shots from distance) and playing terrible defense.

If/when he ever does get a chance to play for a good team, he'll either fail playing the way he currently does or adapt to a lesser role that better fits a winning formula. Antoine Walker finally did that with Miami and Jason Terry did it with Dallas. But those guys were third or fourth options on championship teams.

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Two current players who radically altered their career path after a trade: SGA and Halliburton.

Historical examples are too many to note.

Environment matters in a BIG way.

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Obviously, but both of those guys were more efficient players as rookies for their original teams than George has been after two-plus seasons worth of NBA games.

And SGA might have broken out in LA if given enough time. They threw him in the Paul George trade after one season in which he finished sixth in the rookie of the year voting.

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And K George plays for a team that has one player that is not named K George that would start on other NBA teams. My point is that basically playing 2 on 5 game after game tells very little about who he might be as a player.

as I mentioned in original post…….see Cleveland Brown quarterbacks. Or Jet quarterbacks.
no one knows if they can play because the surrounding talent is so bad and the organization is horrid.

George is averaging nearly a double-double 20/10 so off to a good start. Long season.

I am curious to see how Keyonte fares against my Pistons tonight. Holland and Thompson are two of the better defensive guards in the NBA. If he lights them up it'll be pretty darn impressive

On 🔥🔥🔥 https://t.co/JcnEurDSnG

— Scott Drew (@BUDREW) November 5, 2025

IowaBear said:

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I am curious to see how Keyonte fares against my Pistons tonight. Holland and Thompson are two of the better defensive guards in the NBA. If he lights them up it'll be pretty darn impressive

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He dropped 19 but man he was cold from beyond the arc.

This game was so forgettable…and foretelling of the season to come... but that was a nasty posterization

1 YEAR AGO TODAY
The Gonzaga Coach put his son in the game for the final two minutes of a blowout win.

Then VJ Edgecombe did this to him... pic.twitter.com/xY4nXcFQj5

— Ballislife.com (@Ballislife) November 5, 2025

Unfortunately made the trip for this game, that was the lone highlight.