Tourney Talk

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Quinton
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boognish_bear said:




That's a wrap for their chances. They always have a letdown game so they probably weren't winning a title. But this completely sinks their chances.
Fre3dombear
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boognish_bear said:




Better coach? Drew or sampson? Sampson had decades of cheating and skirting the rules catch up with him but out that aside.

Sampson lower ceiling but more consistent? Has 20 years on drew as well so
Have to factor that in and a benefactor that spends lavishly from Italy
Fre3dombear
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Quinton said:

boognish_bear said:




That's a wrap for their chances. They always have a letdown game so they probably weren't winning a title. But this completely sinks their chances.


I took the kentucky points so we shall see

+5
Quinton
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Michigan. Highest proven peak imo and turns out the big 10 is really good.

Don't love they've looked bored multiple times throughout the year but the tournament should help with that. Guard play is the ?.
IowaBear
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My final is Houston Michigan. I don't trust either if I'm. Ring honest. I have UConn in the F4 and I won't be shocked if YClA beats them tonight. But it's hard to doubt Hurley.
Fre3dombear
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Iowa State hanging in there well
bear2be2
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Fre3dombear said:

Iowa State hanging in there well

Kentucky has 13 losses this season. No team with 13 losses is that good.

There's a reason Iowa State was still favored after the Jefferson news.

I think the Cyclones win this one, but it will get hard after this if Jefferson can't return.
IowaBear
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They can beat Tenn/UVA without him assuming they win today. But that's it. They aren't getting any further.
bear2be2
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IowaBear said:

They can beat Tenn/UVA without him assuming they win today. But that's it. They aren't getting any further.

I'd agree with that. I won't say an upset is impossible because Iowa State is still good, and basketball's a crazy game. But I think the Elite Eight is probably their ceiling without Jefferson.
IowaBear
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It's absolutely their ceiling without him. Especially since the theoretical opponent would be Michigan. The Tenn/UVA and St John's/Ku games have potential to be very good today as a side note
Fre3dombear
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Yeah kentucky getting manhandled
bear2be2
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IowaBear said:

It's absolutely their ceiling without him. Especially since the theoretical opponent would be Michigan. The Tenn/UVA and St John's/Ku games have potential to be very good today as a side note

Iowa State plays such good defense, if they can go off from the 3-point line, they could win a game you don't expect. But they'll be an underdog in any game they play after the next round, and rightly so.
bear2be2
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Iowa State has taken control of this one with their defense. They've got the Wildcats completely flummoxed.
Big12Fan2024
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UNC is crazy if TJ is not at the top of their list. The dude can just flat out identify talent and coach. Have no idea if he would take the job but give him UNC's basketball money and blueblood power and he would be hard to stop.
El Oso
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Uh oh. Another ISU player staying down.
Danielsjackson114
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Some people on here say identifying, developing, and coaching ain't a thing anymore
bear2be2
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Iowa State may have just lost another starter as Killyan Toure went down hard on an offensive rebound attempt.

I hope he's OK, because he hit the deck really hard and has been down awhile.
El Oso
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He's back up, but not in. It looks like he could play, but with a 20 point lead give him a breather.
bear2be2
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Danielsjackson114 said:

Some people on here say identifying, developing, and coaching ain't a thing anymore

No one worth listening to is saying that.
bear2be2
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Iowa State has Kentucky seeing ghosts.

This second half has been really impressive on both ends of the floor.
Big12Fan2024
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Danielsjackson114 said:

Some people on here say identifying, developing, and coaching ain't a thing anymore

Haven't watched Kentucky that much this year but it is fairly obvious from my limited times seeing them they are a collection of really good individual basketball talents. The kind who look impressive in pick-up games. What they're not is a team. That is what TJ does such a good job building. He takes several really talented guys and mixes them with others who perform their roles well. Really enjoy watching them.
El Oso
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Just in case you are wondering:
1. Women are on the verge of being routed by Duke and it isn't even halftime.
2. Baseball team getting smacked around in Stillwater.
IowaBear
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ISU is what I desperately want Bu to be. They're going to lose Lipsey & Jefferson. But they have an outstanding core coming back. And people who don't follow the program don't realize they'd be even better if the Eastern Washington transfer didn't get hurt prior to the season. He's going to be really good
bear2be2
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El Oso said:

Just in case you are wondering:
1. Women are on the verge of being routed by Duke and it isn't even halftime.
2. Baseball team getting smacked around in Stillwater.

Our women are painful to watch on the offensive end of the floor. Our point guard play is sooooooooo bad. Scott is basically the only dynamic offensive player on our entire roster, and she's become really inefficient as the season has worn on because she gets no help.
Big12Fan2024
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Pope is gonna enter his 3rd season next year with a new AD and an extremely hot seat. If he doesn't make it to the Sweet 16, at minimum, I have a feeling the Kentucky job will open again.
IowaBear
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Odds Drew's their top target about 1%
bear2be2
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IowaBear said:

ISU is what I desperately want Bu to be. They're going to lose Lipsey & Jefferson. But they have an outstanding core coming back. And people who don't follow the program don't realize they'd be even better if the Eastern Washington transfer didn't get hurt prior to the season. He's going to be really good

I just want to know why our Big 12 rivals can find guys like Lipsey, Sharp and Christian Anderson, who are just elite multi-year college players, and we can't. Probably because we don't even look for them. We're too busy star-chasing to find and develop those guys anymore.
Big12Fan2024
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Unwatchable. I've seen high schools with better PG play than us. We literally have trouble dribbling down the court. And enough bricklayers from the outside that we could construct 5 new buildings on campus. I've rarely made it past 1 quarter watching them this year.
Big12Fan2024
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Big12Fan2024
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Don't think they will go there again!
bear2be2
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Big12Fan2024 said:

Unwatchable. I've seen high schools with better PG play than us. We literally have trouble dribbling down the court. And enough bricklayers from the outside that we could construct 5 new buildings on campus. I've rarely made it past 1 quarter watching them this year.

I only watch the big games for the women, so I've seen a lot more bad than good this year.

But after watching that first Duke game, I was like where did we find this PG? She's awful. I could tell then that we were going to struggle to score against any of the better teams on our schedule.

Scott is a legit scorer. She just has no help at all. And I think that's worn on her as the season has gone on.
Big12Fan2024
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Who does everyone have in the next game: KU or St. John's?
El Oso
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Big12Fan2024 said:

Who does everyone have in the next game: KU or St. John's?

St. John's
IowaBear
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I have St John's in my E8. So I fully expect KU to beat them today lol
boognish_bear
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Big12Fan2024 said:

Who does everyone have in the next game: KU or St. John's?


STJ
 
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