2025-26 Postmortem & Looking Ahead

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Big12Fan2024
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66% of the top rated transfer portal recruits gone.

Some major programs are gonna be left with severely undertalented rosters when the music stops and there are no more top seats to take.

Quinton
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Adriacus and Craw are exactly right. Nunn straight up wasn't a good defender at this level. This site told us he was but he wasn't.. his Vcu accolades didn't translate.

He had solid straight line speed and jumping ability but agility and awareness just weren't there. The footwork and lateral movement weren't good.

I like Nunn and think he's a decent 8th man. I put it on the staff to have him playing such heavy minutes. He did have a solid second half of big 12 play his first year.. and I believe he played hard.
Big12Fan2024
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From a defensive metrics standpoint from 3 different services, Nunn started off his freshman year at VCU with a strong numerical value that would essentially have been equivalent to Highly Effective. Unfortunately, he proceeded to get numerically worse each year to the point he finished his senior year with what would be considered numerically as a Weak rating. Most data heads would say that is correlated to a step up in competition.
joenatty
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There's some rumors swirling around about Dylan Mingo potentially having to redshirt his freshman year based on a new injury, haven't really looked into the validity of it but it's out there
TWD 1974
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joenatty said:

There's some rumors swirling around about Dylan Mingo potentially having to redshirt his freshman year based on a new injury, haven't really looked into the validity of it but it's out there

He was injured last summer, missed much of the High School season with a different injury this past winter, I sense a pattern...
“No eye has seen, no ear has heard, and no mind has imagined what God has prepared for those who love Him.” 1 Corinthians 2:9
joenatty
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joenatty said:

Watch out for the Mingo brothers

Gotta get the other now. We'll worry about the health stuff when we get there, just secure the pair and figure out your next steps imho

(would really like the staff to hone in on Matt Able now)
Big12Fan2024
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joenatty said:

joenatty said:

Watch out for the Mingo brothers

Gotta get the other now. We'll worry about the health stuff when we get there, just secure the pair and figure out your next steps imho

(would really like the staff to hone in on Matt Able now)


Did someone double our NIL budget out of nowhere so we can afford to pay $2 million to someone who isn't going to play in 26-27?
Adriacus Peratuun
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Big12Fan2024 said:

joenatty said:

joenatty said:

Watch out for the Mingo brothers

Gotta get the other now. We'll worry about the health stuff when we get there, just secure the pair and figure out your next steps imho

(would really like the staff to hone in on Matt Able now)


Did someone double our NIL budget out of nowhere so we can afford to pay $2 million to someone who isn't going to play in 26-27?


Fine print in contract stipulates payment amounts listed in Yen.

All good.
Quinton
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The older bro is a good pick up. Second year is typically when guys see a ton of growth. If Drew can fix his shot and stay healthy he'll be very good.

Don't love paying to stash a guy but there would be a ton of growth with a redshirt year for such a highly regarded prospect (younger bro). Now pick up a talented wing with multiple years and back in business.

If the program retains everyone through 27/28', that year could be the one. Guessing Drew is trying to build up for that run.
joenatty
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Big12Fan2024 said:

joenatty said:

joenatty said:

Watch out for the Mingo brothers

Gotta get the other now. We'll worry about the health stuff when we get there, just secure the pair and figure out your next steps imho

(would really like the staff to hone in on Matt Able now)


Did someone double our NIL budget out of nowhere so we can afford to pay $2 million to someone who isn't going to play in 26-27?

Everyone wants roster continuity until you have to pay for roster continuity

Every competitive roster in cbb is on a 15-20 million dollar budget. Gotta spend money to make money
Also, his price tag is probably gonna be more than 2mil, jsyk
IowaBear
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I can tell you Iowa States roster isn't in the 15-20 and they were a top 20 team all year. So your statement is patently false
joenatty
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Iowa State lost in the s16. They did not have a shot against the likes of Duke/UConn/Michigan/Arizona/Illinois/etc.

If Baylor is working with a budget of anything less than 12 million, then we aren't going to be capable of playing with the big dogs. 2mil is an extremely reasonable amount to spend on a 5-star freshman, even if it is a matter of having to wait to see him for a year

Continuity is built by moves like that
IowaBear
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The **** are you talking about.. quit moving goal posts here. "Every competitive roster isn't in the 15-20 million range" easily debunked. Kentucky has a budget of what 20 million? How did that go? You must not have actually watched ISu or any of the other good teams with budgets less than 15 million for that matter.
TWD 1974
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joenatty said:

Iowa State lost in the s16. They did not have a shot against the likes of Duke/UConn/Michigan/Arizona/Illinois/etc.

If Baylor is working with a budget of anything less than 12 million, then we aren't going to be capable of playing with the big dogs. 2mil is an extremely reasonable amount to spend on a 5-star freshman, even if it is a matter of having to wait to see him for a year

Continuity is built by moves like that

Taking a gambit on a possible injury redshirt situation is nothing new for us, i.e.., Bodo Bodo, Soyoye, Perez, et. al.
We have to be sure we have enough to put on the floor in 26-27, as we have to take care of next season, first and foremost.
“No eye has seen, no ear has heard, and no mind has imagined what God has prepared for those who love Him.” 1 Corinthians 2:9
Ewalker80
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Pretty sure bodo bodo and Perez were both injured after they signed with us and transferred here, so those were not calculated risks. Not sure about soyo injury.
joenatty
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Why are you so angry, and how did I move the goalposts?

I don't think it's some outlandish take to say that Iowa State wasn't a competitor for the title, they would have needed a lot of things to go their way. They were a very good team just not a title contender. I'm not sure how I was "debunked." I obviously exaggerated a bit with the 15-20 price tag, but that's where Michigan was this past year so that was the number I used

Because Kentucky had an expensive roster and underperformed, Baylor shouldn't be trying to maximize their budget? I don't understand what point you're trying to make there ngl

All I'm saying is we need to spend money to be competitive, and I don't understand being opposed to paying good players the same money other schools are offering. Baylor should roster a budget of at least 12mil, we're a big enough brand and that's what other teams are forking over
joenatty
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If paying Dylan Mingo 2mil to redshirt this year is the price for having him as a foundation for the 27-28 roster, I feel more than fine doing it. Like I'm sure everyone here believes, we need to start having better retention year to year like we had at our best
Adriacus Peratuun
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joenatty said:

If paying Dylan Mingo 2mil to redshirt this year is the price for having him as a foundation for the 27-28 roster, I feel more than fine doing it. Like I'm sure everyone here believes, we need to start having better retention year to year like we had at our best

Honestly, if $12m is a high NIL budget and $20m is a top NIL budget, paying $2m to a player that won't play is kinda sorta crazy talk.
IowaBear
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I'm not angry. Your comment was easily debunked. Your words "every competitive roster is in the 15-20 million range" I easily proved that false. You followed up by moving the goalposts to title contenders. Which could also be debunked because I seriously doubt UConn has a 15 million $$ roster.
The point is you can win/be competitive as you put it without a huge NIL slush fund and that's been proven
joenatty
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I considered being competitive as being a contender, but I see how that wasn't obvious. My bad

You can be a good team without a huge NIL fund but I genuinely don't understand why you'd be against the idea of Baylor spending a lot of money unless you just don't think we have the money to spend. Especially in the current state of the portal, I think a 12mil budget is reasonable
joenatty
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But think of the outlook of going into 27-28 with this core:

Guards: Mingo, Williams IV, Decker
Wings: Williams, Iguodala II
Forward: Perez
Bigs: Bodo Bodo, Soyoye

Personally think it's worth the investment but I see what you're saying
IowaBear
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I'm not against Baylor spending huge amounts of $$. But it's not needed to go deep in March
boognish_bear
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That sounds tough

joenatty
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Disagree given the majority of the teams that made deep runs this year, but to each their own
IowaBear
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So which E8 teams had your suggested 15-20 million budget?
joenatty
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The national champions
BUBradley
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I would totally take Watts at the 4 for us next year.
IowaBear
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You keep moving the goalposts… your original comment was clear as day. "Every competitive roster had a 15-20 million $$ roster. That blasphemy was quickly debunked. We've now moved all the way to "the national champion had a 15-20 million $$ roster.
Bottom line holds true. You can be competitive and win at a line level without having a 15-20 million $$ roster and there's ton of examples of that this year alone. Sure, you may need to spend 20 million to win a narty. But that's not even close to your orginal statement.
joenatty
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Dude all I did was answer the question you asked lol what do you mean I'm moving goalposts
IowaBear
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I asked you what teams in the E8 had rosters with 15-20 million. You purposely avoided the ones who didn't have said rosters. Anyways carry on making up bull**** that you need 15 million plus to be a "competitive team" in CBB
 
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