903Bear1962 said:

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Not giving up just yet on our conference chances. TT is the only team I would bet money on.

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possible12 said:

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Along with "good chemistry can defeat good talent" ?, could add: "It's not the x's and the o"s, it's the Jimmies and the Joes", and "recruiting is the lifeblood of any program".

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Bro said:

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And the Froggies beat Southern Cal in LA by 35 points. That don't look good.

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bunation said:

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possible12 said:

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Along with "good chemistry can defeat good talent" ?, could add: "It's not the x's and the o"s, it's the Jimmies and the Joes", and "recruiting is the lifeblood of any program".

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Agree, of course.

Baylor BB Recruiting Rankings
According to 247sports.com

vs. Results

YR...Recruiting....Conf......Tourney
........Ranking......Finish.......Finish
2018 - 36...........T6/10.....NIT 2nd Rnd
2017 - 81............T2/10.....Sweet 16
2016 - 41............T5/10.....1st Rnd
2015 - 46............T4/10.....1st Rnd
2014 - 61............T6/10.....Sweet 16
2013 - 20............T4/10.....NIT Champ
2012 - 4..............T3/10.....Elite 8
2011 - 23.............T7/12.....nope
2010 - 6..............T2/12.....Elite 8
2009 - 129(?).......9/12.....NIT R-Up
2008 - 40............T4/12.....1st Rnd
2007 - 52............11/12
2006 - 23............12/12
2005 - 17.............12/12
2004 - 79.............11/12k

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Bearish said:

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bunation said:

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possible12 said:

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Along with "good chemistry can defeat good talent" ?, could add: "It's not the x's and the o"s, it's the Jimmies and the Joes", and "recruiting is the lifeblood of any program".

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Agree, of course.

Baylor BB Recruiting Rankings
According to 247sports.com

vs. Results

YR...Recruiting....Conf......Tourney
........Ranking......Finish.......Finish
2018 - 36...........T6/10.....NIT 2nd Rnd
2017 - 81............T2/10.....Sweet 16
2016 - 41............T5/10.....1st Rnd
2015 - 46............T4/10.....1st Rnd
2014 - 61............T6/10.....Sweet 16
2013 - 20............T4/10.....NIT Champ
2012 - 4..............T3/10.....Elite 8
2011 - 23.............T7/12.....nope
2010 - 6..............T2/12.....Elite 8
2009 - 129(?).......9/12.....NIT R-Up
2008 - 40............T4/12.....1st Rnd
2007 - 52............11/12
2006 - 23............12/12
2005 - 17.............12/12
2004 - 79.............11/12k

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We're going to need Drew to work the magic he found in that 2013-14 season. That was the best coaching job he's done here, IMO.

That's when we started 1-6 in conference play, then turned it around to get to 9-9 and NCAA tournament bubble status. Then we made it all the way to the Big 12 championship game and safely in the tournament as a 6 seed, eventually reaching the Sweet 16.

I think that's the kind of prayer we're needing this year.

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EGOTbear said:

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Bearish said:

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bunation said:

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possible12 said:

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Along with "good chemistry can defeat good talent" ?, could add: "It's not the x's and the o"s, it's the Jimmies and the Joes", and "recruiting is the lifeblood of any program".

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Agree, of course.

Baylor BB Recruiting Rankings
According to 247sports.com

vs. Results

YR...Recruiting....Conf......Tourney
........Ranking......Finish.......Finish
2018 - 36...........T6/10.....NIT 2nd Rnd
2017 - 81............T2/10.....Sweet 16
2016 - 41............T5/10.....1st Rnd
2015 - 46............T4/10.....1st Rnd
2014 - 61............T6/10.....Sweet 16
2013 - 20............T4/10.....NIT Champ
2012 - 4..............T3/10.....Elite 8
2011 - 23.............T7/12.....nope
2010 - 6..............T2/12.....Elite 8
2009 - 129(?).......9/12.....NIT R-Up
2008 - 40............T4/12.....1st Rnd
2007 - 52............11/12
2006 - 23............12/12
2005 - 17.............12/12
2004 - 79.............11/12k

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We're going to need Drew to work the magic he found in that 2013-14 season. That was the best coaching job he's done here, IMO.

That's when we started 1-6 in conference play, then turned it around to get to 9-9 and NCAA tournament bubble status. Then we made it all the way to the Big 12 championship game and safely in the tournament as a 6 seed, eventually reaching the Sweet 16.

I think that's the kind of prayer we're needing this year.

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Difference is that team actually had talent

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EGOTbear said:

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Drew has foregone recruiting high end talent and prefers to reply on Transfers now

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Timbear said:

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Baylor getting a new arena is like people in a bad marriage thinking that having a baby will save the marriage. A new arena won't improve the coaching.

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Timbear said:

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Baylor getting a new arena is like people in a bad marriage thinking that having a baby will save the marriage. A new arena won't improve the coaching.

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bunation said:

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This team may be Coach Drew's most challenging rebuilding task since the first several seasons after he arrived. I can't think of another.

He's working with a roster of FIVE transfers, including, Gillespie, a former walk-on at a D3 school (plus another two transfers, Teague & Mitchell, sit this season), a former BU football player (Okeke) and three true-freshmen.

One of our/his two most experienced players, Lindsey, is, of course, out for the season.

Kegler has only played in two games. Mason was injured most of the past two seasons & earlier this season.

Allen & Bandoo weren't even full time starters at their respective junior colleges.

We have little size/experience with true-sophomore Clark at 6'9" & two true-freshman at 6'10".

We all know that learning a system takes some time, but developing chemistry can take much of a season. "Good chemistry can defeat good talent." We may be a little down on "talent" this year, so...........

Add the fact that most of our guys are new to D1 basketball, & it's easier to understand the challenges facing Coach Drew & our Bears.

The second half of the Wichita State game instilled some optimism, outscoring them by 21 in the second half (granted they were not playing with their earlier intensity, but still, 21 points before a full house on the Shockers' home court?!).

We have just four games before the onset of B12 play on January 5th. The conference looks competitive top to bottom. Let's hope our chemistry & rotation gels in time..........

Patience required.

This just may be a very trying season for us fans, with our usual high expectations, but even more so for our overachieving coach!

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Bear8084 said:

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Timbear said:

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Baylor getting a new arena is like people in a bad marriage thinking that having a baby will save the marriage. A new arena won't improve the coaching.

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Coaching isn't what's missing.

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Bearish said:

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bunation said:

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possible12 said:

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Along with "good chemistry can defeat good talent" ?, could add: "It's not the x's and the o"s, it's the Jimmies and the Joes", and "recruiting is the lifeblood of any program".

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Agree, of course.

Baylor BB Recruiting Rankings
According to 247sports.com

vs. Results

YR...Recruiting....Conf......Tourney
........Ranking......Finish.......Finish
2018 - 36...........T6/10.....NIT 2nd Rnd
2017 - 81............T2/10.....Sweet 16
2016 - 41............T5/10.....1st Rnd
2015 - 46............T4/10.....1st Rnd
2014 - 61............T6/10.....Sweet 16
2013 - 20............T4/10.....NIT Champ
2012 - 4..............T3/10.....Elite 8
2011 - 23.............T7/12.....nope
2010 - 6..............T2/12.....Elite 8
2009 - 129(?).......9/12.....NIT R-Up
2008 - 40............T4/12.....1st Rnd
2007 - 52............11/12
2006 - 23............12/12
2005 - 17.............12/12
2004 - 79.............11/12k

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We're going to need Drew to work the magic he found in that 2013-14 season. That was the best coaching job he's done here, IMO.

That's when we started 1-6 in conference play, then turned it around to get to 9-9 and NCAA tournament bubble status. Then we made it all the way to the Big 12 championship game and safely in the tournament as a 6 seed, eventually reaching the Sweet 16.

I think that's the kind of prayer we're needing this year.

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bear2be2 said:

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Bearish said:

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bunation said:

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possible12 said:

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Along with "good chemistry can defeat good talent" ?, could add: "It's not the x's and the o"s, it's the Jimmies and the Joes", and "recruiting is the lifeblood of any program".

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Agree, of course.

Baylor BB Recruiting Rankings
According to 247sports.com

vs. Results

YR...Recruiting....Conf......Tourney
........Ranking......Finish.......Finish
2018 - 36...........T6/10.....NIT 2nd Rnd
2017 - 81............T2/10.....Sweet 16
2016 - 41............T5/10.....1st Rnd
2015 - 46............T4/10.....1st Rnd
2014 - 61............T6/10.....Sweet 16
2013 - 20............T4/10.....NIT Champ
2012 - 4..............T3/10.....Elite 8
2011 - 23.............T7/12.....nope
2010 - 6..............T2/12.....Elite 8
2009 - 129(?).......9/12.....NIT R-Up
2008 - 40............T4/12.....1st Rnd
2007 - 52............11/12
2006 - 23............12/12
2005 - 17.............12/12
2004 - 79.............11/12k

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We're going to need Drew to work the magic he found in that 2013-14 season. That was the best coaching job he's done here, IMO.

That's when we started 1-6 in conference play, then turned it around to get to 9-9 and NCAA tournament bubble status. Then we made it all the way to the Big 12 championship game and safely in the tournament as a 6 seed, eventually reaching the Sweet 16.

I think that's the kind of prayer we're needing this year.

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Prescient post. I mentioned this week how much this team reminds me of that 2013-14 squad, but I had forgotten this post when I made the comparison. That's some foresight to have made the connection before the switch was flipped.

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