Does anyone know how this is decided? Is it from the media or just some random Big 12 employee? If its the latter I can see them just picking based on stats with no context about what actually happened. And of course the typical Big 12 politics.
Slimecap posted earlier selections were decided "in a vote of a media panel that covers the Conference"bearbone11 said:
Does anyone know how this is decided? Is it from the media or just some random Big 12 employee? If its the latter I can see them just picking based on stats with no context about what actually happened. And of course the typical Big 12 politics.
Well we saw how biased it was at the end of last year!Gruvin said:nope no bias there... nothing to see - move along...whitetrash said:So Kristy Wallace averages 26 ppg in 2 wins over Top 25 opponents and was national player of the week, but the Big12 instead picks someone who goes off for 39 against OkSt then isn't even her teams leading scorer in a 32 point loss to UT?slimecap said:
January 29, 2018
Hi 57Bear,57Bear said:Slimecap posted earlier selections were decided "in a vote of a media panel that covers the Conference"bearbone11 said:
Does anyone know how this is decided? Is it from the media or just some random Big 12 employee? If its the latter I can see them just picking based on stats with no context about what actually happened. And of course the typical Big 12 politics.
57Bear said:Slimecap posted earlier selections were decided "in a vote of a media panel that covers the Conference"bearbone11 said:
Does anyone know how this is decided? Is it from the media or just some random Big 12 employee? If its the latter I can see them just picking based on stats with no context about what actually happened. And of course the typical Big 12 politics.
slimecap said:Hi 57Bear,57Bear said:Slimecap posted earlier selections were decided "in a vote of a media panel that covers the Conference"bearbone11 said:
Does anyone know how this is decided? Is it from the media or just some random Big 12 employee? If its the latter I can see them just picking based on stats with no context about what actually happened. And of course the typical Big 12 politics.
I just got off the phone from a 16 minute conversation with a Big 12 representative at corporate headquarters. I asked at least 11 questions. I am putting my notes together now for a post later today. I received some interesting information on how the media panel is selected.
But to go directly to the bottom line
Big 12 conference policy forbids the release of individual names of the 5 voters on the media panel.
Isn't it ironic that the AP Top 25 releases the names of its media voters every year?
Thank you for your diligence in tracking this down. I won't say that it looks like the fix is in, but ....slimecap said:
Big 12 voters for WBB Player of Week (POW) & WBB Freshman of the Week (FOW)
1. How many voters are on the media panel?
5
2. What are the names of the voters?
Big 12 conference policy will not let me release the names.
3. I'm puzzled ... the AP Top 25 Poll publishes the names of their media voters at the beginning of each season.
AP is a different organization. They have a different policy.
4. So why was the number 5 selected for number of voters?
.. Big 12 conference is 10 schools.
.. The schools are split into 2 groups of 5 schools each.
.. The 1st group of schools nominate a media voter for this season.
.. The 2nd group of schools nominate a media voter for the next season.
.. Then it rotates back to the original 1st group for the following season.
5. Which schools are in the 1st group and which schools are in the 2nd group?
Big 12 conference policy will not let me release the school group assignments.
6. Do the schools ever change groups?
No
7. Which school staff person submits the media voter name to the Big 12?
Each school has a Sports Information Director (SID). The SID submits the name.
8. I have a list of several names that are the published AP Top 25 voters.:
AP Poll Voters that report in BIG 12 school areas
2017-18
1 Brocato Joe Bridgeport WV WDTV-TV
2 Cantu Rick Austin TX American-Statesman
3 Palmateer Tyler Norman OK Transcript
4 Pirtle Krista Waco TX Tribune-Herald
5 Pryor Brooke Oklahoma City OK Oklahoman
Can you confirm the NUMBER of AP voters that also submit votes to the Big 12 for WBB Player of Week (POW) & WBB Freshman of the Week (FOW)?
No
9. Bill Fennelly of Iowa State is the Big 12 vote this season on the Coaches Poll. Does this mean that Iowa State does not simultaneously submit a media voter name to the Big 12 POW & FOW?
Big 12 conference policy will not let me release this information.
10. Are all media voter selections a geographically-close selection for the schools?
A school can select a local media person or a national media person.
11. Is national media person defined exclusively as Sports Illustrated, ESPN, ABC etc.?
A national media person could also include a voter that is local media and is simultaneously recognized nationally.
The conversation was handled in a helpful, professional & accommodating manner by the Big 12 professional staff.
Simply put, the policies come from the top. The staff member was following the rules.
Gruvin said:
Great interview- can see why some teams appear to get favored as the school picks their favorite media friend to vote
fujobear said:
it was a joke last year that Wallace wasn't second team or honorable mention Big 12.
This year she should be first team.
Yep. And turning our attention to the National Top 3, all 3 play ranked teams over the next 32 hours, with #1 UCONN and #2 Miss. State doing so on the road against Top 15 teams.ScottS said:
All the rest are playing for 2nd, lol
In other words, the stars are lining up as long as we keep taking care of biznezz. Winning just seems to solve everything.BFWorldwide said:
Bad News:
3 more Monday games against solid competition [OU, UT, & WVU] on short rest.
Good News: each of those teams also on short rest for those games and each has a tough game immediately prior.
Further good news: each of those games gets the team extended rest afterwards.
Interesting tidbit: conference tourney starts on a Friday. Most of the teams in the play-in games play a Tuesday regular season game. Most of the teams with byes play Monday. Baylor and whoever finishes in 2nd should get a really tired team in round two.
The level of play across the conference has dropped tremendously over the past 1-2 weeks. Dead legs are setting in as the conference play meat grinder rolls along.BuinmyBlood said:
Wow. Shocking to see Texas only beat a terrible Kansas team by 14 points, and apparently had to pull away late to get that. Not to mention, how in the world did Texas only score 55 points against that team? As I recall we did a beat down on them both times by 25 to 40 points at least. I'm wondering if Texas' confidence isn't shaken now that they feel possibly that they're out of the conference race...
BuinmyBlood said:
Wow. Shocking to see Texas only beat a terrible Kansas team by 14 points, and apparently had to pull away late to get that.
The Lady Bears beat Kansas 83-45 @ Kansas. They play in Waco on 17 Feb.BuinmyBlood said:
Wow. Shocking to see Texas only beat a terrible Kansas team by 14 points, and apparently had to pull away late to get that. Not to mention, how in the world did Texas only score 55 points against that team? As I recall we did a beat down on them both times by 25 to 40 points at least. I'm wondering if Texas' confidence isn't shaken now that they feel possibly that they're out of the conference race...
slimecap said:
Texas Tech Pre-Game Press Conference
Texas Tech interim head coach Shimmy Gray Miller discusses upcoming Baylor game on Feb 3.
Video link
http://texastech.com/watch/?Archive=14426&type=Live