I think we're overranked. Feel we can beat anyone ... but also loose to anyone. Will be intersted to see how the transfers co-exist and if Andrews is fully healthy. We have the potenaitl to make a deep run, just still question our lack of a post presence ... or post depth.

Agree, personally think #16-#20 ranking is more realistic to start the year. We should have a really good year, minimum 20 wins. We should win the Big12, especially since we don't have to play TX or OK.

20 wins would be massively underachieving. B12is incredibly weak

I believe post will be a strength with better tall depth. Arronette, Kyla and a healthy Madison should be much stronger this year. What we will be missing is the threat of the 3 pointer from that position. I am excited to see Kyla this year. I believe she will surprise us.

I think I said minimum 20 wins. Ideally 25+ wins would be a very successful year. Agree that B12 is weaker this season, without TX and OK. We should win the B12 this season and have very good seeding in the NCAA Tourney. We should be ranked by the end of the season. Looking forward to a new team and a new conference to see how the new teams play out.

Madison came with a rep as an adequate 3pt shoiter last year but had a very poor year shooting outside 3 feet. Hopefully with better health that will improve significantly this year. She is still having some back trouble.

I think the big 12 will be at least as good as last year or better since Tx and OU were good -very good at times but not exceptional and Az and other newbies will all be at least good ( not sure about Colo although they signed a player I liked alot L. Greer) and many teams recruited well or did well in portal. If A. Lee stays health and TCU plays to expectation I think there will be a number of good teams.

interesting how b12 coaches see the league very much differently than national pundits. i don't understand how someone from iowa can say the league will be weak when iowa state and k-state are both projected to have their best teams perhaps ever.

I look at the league as a whole. That's a rather large assumption saying ISU will have its best squad ever considering some of the squads Bill has had in the past. Houston, Cincy, UCF, BYU, AZ ST, OkSt, Tech, ku will all be bad Utah, CO, AZ are all mid (rebuilding) there's no elite team in the B12 this year.

I respect your right to hold that opinion, but I think I'll wait and see. Football has been topsy turvy from what a lot of people expected. Basketball may end up being so, as well. I think we will not be the strongest league, but I think we will be stronger than you're thinking we will be.

Good thing is, neither of us will suffer significantly from the other being correct.

Nothing wrong with differing opinions. Obviously a stronger league benefits BU greatly. So I'm perfectly fine being wrong. Still can't believe it's almost basketball season. Fall is flying by.

Random question

I saw the list of big 12 players going to media day and Sarah isn't going. I hope it has nothing to do with an injury. Anyone know?

IowaBear said:

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I look at the league as a whole. That's a rather large assumption saying ISU will have its best squad ever considering some of the squads Bill has had in the past. Houston, Cincy, UCF, BYU, AZ ST, OkSt, Tech, ku will all be bad Utah, CO, AZ are all mid (rebuilding) there's no elite team in the B12 this year.

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define "elite"?

Title contender. There's none in the B12

Sure… doesn't change the fact that the B12 doesn't have a title contender though.

Cool...

IowaBear said:

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Sure… doesn't change the fact that the B12 doesn't have a title contender though.

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we will see how it plays out. without seeing these teams, their additions, their maturity, etc., i can't buy what you are selling. a lot of early season match-ups to gage though.

You can't buy that the B12 has no national title contenders? Guess will just see if I'm wrong in March but I seriously doubt the B12 gets a single team past the E8