When you have a coach who came to a program that never made the NCAA tournament, and wins THREE Nat'l Championships, has done nothing but make Baylor proud, and NEVER embarrassed us, you keep her.

Pay her what she wants.
Name the arena after her.
But don't run her off in the misguided notion that you'll get a replacement who can win as much as her.

I am both shocked and embarrassed that we have people at the top who do not recognize solid gold when it is right in front of them.

Stop this stupid spin trying to find fault with Kim.
All she did was WIN......a lot.

Yep.

Wouldn't know personally but it sounds like the premium side is practically throwing a party with the news she's leaving. Personally that bunch sounds like a bunch of ****ing idiots excuse my language

We're Baylor. We can't have nice things and if the administration sees it, they take it away from us. Football, number 1, WBB, number 2. Anyone want to think that in the not too distant future, MBB is number 3? I will not bet against it.

{ nodding }

{ sipping organic grass fed beef bone broth }

- BUmma

IowaBear said:

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Wouldn't know personally but it sounds like the premium side is practically throwing a party with the news she's leaving. Personally that bunch sounds like a bunch of ****ing idiots excuse my language

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It's all about egos with those types. We couldn't even have them not fight over an Alumni Association issue. We here all all peons that are just suppose to blindly send money and buy tickets. As long as they get their perks, they're fine.

IowaBear said:

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Wouldn't know personally but it sounds like the premium side is practically throwing a party with the news she's leaving. Personally that bunch sounds like a bunch of ****ing idiots excuse my language

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I've heard this as well. That's pretty shocking. I'd have never guessed but don't follow her or wbb as close as many here

It's almost like she's the 2nd coming...of Ellen DeGeneris

The premium board doesn't represent the majority of Baylor fans and certainly not the Lady Bears fans. They are a bunch of mostly younger and middle-aged males who have been jealous of the success of Mulkey's program over the years. It's sad really that they are so bothered by a successful women's basketball program that they think it somehow takes away from the men's program. These are the same people who have issues with an opinionated, strong-headed female. You know -- the Mack Rhoades types.

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The premium board doesn't represent the majority of Baylor fans and certainly not the Lady Bears fans. They are a bunch of mostly younger and middle-aged males who have been jealous of the success of Mulkey's program over the years. It's sad really that they are so bothered by a successful women's basketball program that they think it somehow takes away from the men's program. These are the same people who have issues with an opinionated, strong-headed female. You know -- the Mack Rhoades types.

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There is a much better name for them....."Useful Idiots" !!!

Oh good I'm in the minority then because I'm middle aged or on the slightly younger side haha. But I respect the hell out of what Kim did.

rhoades dont care. hes not a baylor man.

IowaBear said:

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Oh good I'm in the minority then because I'm middle aged or on the slightly younger side haha. But I respect the hell out of what Kim did.

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Me too I'm middle-aged white guy :-)

Yes, they are very excited over there patting each other on the back and following up on each other's smart-ass remarks deflating women's sports and referring to Mulkey as a witch. I am male, on the older side, and honestly, do enjoy watching men's basketball more than women's- but I did not miss one women's or men's game this year via television or ESPN plus. and I thought both seasons were thrilling. There is some feeling over there that somehow the degrading of the women's team and Mulkey makes the men's team more important and special at Baylor. I can not comprehend why Baylor fans can't be supportive of both programs and why they feel that there is some reason to thrown nasty grams about women's athletics in general.

IowaBear said:

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Wouldn't know personally but it sounds like the premium side is practically throwing a party with the news she's leaving. Personally that bunch sounds like a bunch of ****ing idiots excuse my language

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I wonder if they shared all of those same opinions in 2019 when we won the championship? Somehow, I doubt it. A suspicious person might wonder why all of that joy started now, and why so many seem to want to share it over here in spite of rarely, if ever, posting over here before.

Dana with the winning post of the day bingo same here! Million $ question

Pecos 45 said:

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When you have a coach who came to a program that never made the NCAA tournament, and wins THREE Nat'l Championships, has done nothing but make Baylor proud, and NEVER embarrassed us, you keep her.

Pay her what she wants.
Name the arena after her.
But don't run her off in the misguided notion that you'll get a replacement who can win as much as her.

I am both shocked and embarrassed that we have people at the top who do not recognize solid gold when it is right in front of them.

Stop this stupid spin trying to find fault with Kim.
All she did was WIN......a lot.

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Pecos, it is not "us" that have lost our minds. Most of the people here are the only ones in this fiasco that have a mind. But we don't count. Sometimes I wish I had never gone to Baylor, and then I wouldn't have to go through this seemingly continual inability to accept success. Who on God's green earth do they think they are going to find to come even close to our past performance within many of our lifetimes. Some of us don't have 15 or more years to wait. If I could take a pill that would eliminate any interest in college sports right now, I would take it without hesitation. We have come to the point where every time things start to go good, we have to look over our shoulders to see how "they" are going to screw it up.

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IowaBear said:

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Oh good I'm in the minority then because I'm middle aged or on the slightly younger side haha. But I respect the hell out of what Kim did.

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Me too I'm middle-aged white guy :-)

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Ditto

caesarscott said:

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rhoades dont care. hes not a baylor man.

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And Kim was a "Baylor woman?"

No, Kim was all about herself. Her ego forced her to take the LSU job because she's not a team player in the AD.

Glad she's gone. Get me a coach who wants to be apart of the solution, not the problem.

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Pecos 45 said:

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When you have a coach who came to a program that never made the NCAA tournament, and wins THREE Nat'l Championships, has done nothing but make Baylor proud, and NEVER embarrassed us, you keep her.

Pay her what she wants.
Name the arena after her.
But don't run her off in the misguided notion that you'll get a replacement who can win as much as her.

I am both shocked and embarrassed that we have people at the top who do not recognize solid gold when it is right in front of them.

Stop this stupid spin trying to find fault with Kim.
All she did was WIN......a lot.

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Pecos, it is not "us" that have lost our minds. Most of the people here are the only ones in this fiasco that have a mind. But we don't count. Sometimes I wish I had never gone to Baylor, and then I wouldn't have to go through this seemingly continual inability to accept success. Who on God's green earth do they think they are going to find to come even close to our past performance within many of our lifetimes. Some of us don't have 15 or more years to wait. If I could take a pill that would eliminate any interest in college sports right now, I would take it without hesitation. We have come to the point where every time things start to go good, we have to look over our shoulders to see how "they" are going to screw it up.

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Keep up the good fight Blackie. You may not recall but we have traded comments through the years and you are one of the highlights of the WBB Board. You always add much to the discussions and I look forward to reading your posts.

Edit: Without naming the poster, I just utilized the block feature for the first time ever, and I have been on this forum many years, and I got to say, it felt good.

Pecos 45 said:

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When you have a coach who came to a program that never made the NCAA tournament, and wins THREE Nat'l Championships, has done nothing but make Baylor proud, and NEVER embarrassed us, you keep her.

Pay her what she wants.
Name the arena after her.
But don't run her off in the misguided notion that you'll get a replacement who can win as much as her.

I am both shocked and embarrassed that we have people at the top who do not recognize solid gold when it is right in front of them.

Stop this stupid spin trying to find fault with Kim.
All she did was WIN......a lot.

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Pecos, I knew if I lived long enough that I'd start seein' things I once believed to be unthinkable. We've lost a Naismith Hall of Fame Inductee..Do we have any other basketball coaches included that group? Maybe so, but I can't recall any..She's going to be inducted soon by Michael Jordan. Will she go in as an LSU Tiger? We've had 2 football coaches inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame.. Morley Jennings and Grant Teaff.. Not many coaches in ANY sport make their respective Hall of Fame, and we see fit to remove our lone entry in Basketball. Just friggin' amazing, ain't it.

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caesarscott said:

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rhoades dont care. hes not a baylor man.

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And Kim was a "Baylor woman?"

No, Kim was all about herself. Her ego forced her to take the LSU job because she's not a team player in the AD.

Glad she's gone. Get me a coach who wants to be apart of the solution, not the problem.

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She was here over 20 years!!!! She was at Baylor when you were in elementary school.

This is one of the worst moves--or lack of--by my cherished university that I have ever seen. We all get it...Kim is sometimes a load to deal with, but friends, she has earned much more respect and way more recognition than this university has given her.

I was there. I was working for Baylor when the athletic program was searching deeply for any kind of success, and then, as we all know, the horrific treatment by national press after what were certainly some MAJOR mistakes made by the men's basketball coach and a very sad incident involving two young men.

Kim's energy and, of course, the team's success changed the entire dialogue. All of a sudden a completely dismal environment changed dramatically when the women won the title in 2005. It is true that Baylor had won it's first national championship in men's tennis the year before, but, sadly, that just doesn't make national news. A #2 seed Baylor women's basketball beating three #1 seeds on the way to the championship did.

For that, and for all of the MANY successes--including being one of only 2 current coaches with multiple titles (and the whole list is very small)--she deserves better.

Yes, there was a lot of talk about the arena and much more. But, again, I contend that without the 2005 championship and the many years of women's basketball shining a positive light on Baylor athletics, we may not be where we are.

I love Scott Drew (and I am qualified to say that for many reasons), but I also knew Kim. While she is/was a "piece of work," she gave everything she had to bring a winning program to Baylor. She SHOULD be here still, planning the last years of a great career. Bad mistake, Baylor!

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Bear15 said:

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caesarscott said:

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rhoades dont care. hes not a baylor man.

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And Kim was a "Baylor woman?"

No, Kim was all about herself. Her ego forced her to take the LSU job because she's not a team player in the AD.

Glad she's gone. Get me a coach who wants to be apart of the solution, not the problem.

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She was here over 20 years!!!!

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What does that have to do with anything?

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This is one of the worst moves--or lack of--by my cherished university that I have ever seen. We all get it...Kim is sometimes a load to deal with, but friends, she has earned much more respect and way more recognition than this university has given her.

I was there. I was working for Baylor when the athletic program was searching deeply for any kind of success, and then, as we all know, the horrific treatment by national press after what were certainly some MAJOR mistakes made by the men's basketball coach and a very sad incident involving two young men.

Kim's energy and, of course, the team's success changed the entire dialogue. All of a sudden a completely dismal environment changed dramatically when the women won the title in 2005. It is true that Baylor had won it's first national championship in men's tennis the year before, but, sadly, that just doesn't make national news. A #2 seed Baylor women's basketball beating three #1 seeds on the way to the championship did.

For that, and for all of the MANY successes--including being one of only 2 current coaches with multiple titles (and the whole list is very small)--she deserves better.

Yes, there was a lot of talk about the arena and much more. But, again, I contend that without the 2005 championship and the many years of women's basketball shining a positive light on Baylor athletics, we may not be where we are.

I love Scott Drew (and I am qualified to say that for many reasons), but I also knew Kim. While she is/was a "piece of work," she gave everything she had to bring a winning program to Baylor. She SHOULD be here still, planning the last years of a great career. Bad mistake, Baylor!

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Would you rather have a "piece of work" who wins, or a nice person who loses?

I never thought I would see the day we would lose a HOF coach for no good reason.

IowaBear said:

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Wouldn't know personally but it sounds like the premium side is practically throwing a party with the news she's leaving. Personally that bunch sounds like a bunch of ****ing idiots excuse my language

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If the Premium side is happy over losing one of the greatest basketball coaches of all time (men's or women's) then that's proof that those members have more money than sense.

A separate reality.

I've got to get off of here because I'm very upset over this thing.

BleedGreen&Gold said:

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The premium board doesn't represent the majority of Baylor fans and certainly not the Lady Bears fans. They are a bunch of mostly younger and middle-aged males who have been jealous of the success of Mulkey's program over the years. It's sad really that they are so bothered by a successful women's basketball program that they think it somehow takes away from the men's program. These are the same people who have issues with an opinionated, strong-headed female. You know -- the Mack Rhoades types.

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Poors folk just don't get it! sicem365.com.

You just keep supporting that we have a leadership problem clearly with our AD and President. Strong leaders would not have allowed things to fester and culminate with CKM leaving. Just sayin....

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Baylorbears111 said:

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Bear15 said:

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caesarscott said:

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rhoades dont care. hes not a baylor man.

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And Kim was a "Baylor woman?"

No, Kim was all about herself. Her ego forced her to take the LSU job because she's not a team player in the AD.

Glad she's gone. Get me a coach who wants to be apart of the solution, not the problem.

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She was here over 20 years!!!!

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What does that have to do with anything?

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It means she has spent more time invested and building and promoting Baylor than many in the current administration and AD. You say she isn't a "Baylor woman" but a lifetime career's worth of service says otherwise.

Sorry, but Kim wasn't fired. She left based on her own choice. If you have issues with that, deal directly with Kim. It was her decision.

Pecos 45 said:

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When you have a coach who came to a program that never made the NCAA tournament, and wins THREE Nat'l Championships, has done nothing but make Baylor proud, and NEVER embarrassed us, you keep her.

Pay her what she wants.
Name the arena after her.
But don't run her off in the misguided notion that you'll get a replacement who can win as much as her.

I am both shocked and embarrassed that we have people at the top who do not recognize solid gold when it is right in front of them.

Stop this stupid spin trying to find fault with Kim.
All she did was WIN......a lot.

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Yes. Yes the Baptistas have lost their ever loving minds

Pecos 45 said:

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IowaBear said:

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Wouldn't know personally but it sounds like the premium side is practically throwing a party with the news she's leaving. Personally that bunch sounds like a bunch of ****ing idiots excuse my language

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If the Premium side is happy over losing one of the greatest basketball coaches of all time (men's or women's) then that's proof that those members have more money than sense.

A separate reality.

I've got to get off of here because I'm very upset over this thing.

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Sad thing is a lot of them over there think Mulkey isn't the best coach at Baylor. They think she could win 10 natty's and it still wouldn't be a better accomplishment than the men winning the Big 12.

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You just keep supporting that we have a leadership problem clearly with our AD and President. Strong leaders would not have allowed things to fester and culminate with CKM leaving. Just sayin....

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Strong leaders don't let the inmates run the asylum. Kim had ridiculous demands and was not a team player in the AD.

I'm not the biggest Linda Livingstone fan, but I 100% support not giving into Kim's ego. Kim didn't want to be here and she really didn't hide it very well. That's why she's gone.

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Bear15 said:

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Baylorbears111 said:

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Bear15 said:

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caesarscott said:

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rhoades dont care. hes not a baylor man.

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And Kim was a "Baylor woman?"

No, Kim was all about herself. Her ego forced her to take the LSU job because she's not a team player in the AD.

Glad she's gone. Get me a coach who wants to be apart of the solution, not the problem.

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She was here over 20 years!!!!

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What does that have to do with anything?

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It means she has spent more time invested and building and promoting Baylor than many in the current administration and AD. You say she isn't a "Baylor woman" but a lifetime career's worth of service says otherwise.

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She's been a major pain in the ass the last ten years and one thing I will concede is Ian is partly responsible for Kim's attitude because he let her walk all over him.

Now that we have a real AD, it's his job to make the athletic department money. Paying a coach $2.6M who is on the back end of her career to be a perpetual thorn in his paw isn't a smart investment.

Kim could have prevented this, but she chose her ego over Baylor.

Bear15 said:

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pwactwac said:

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You just keep supporting that we have a leadership problem clearly with our AD and President. Strong leaders would not have allowed things to fester and culminate with CKM leaving. Just sayin....

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Strong leaders don't let the inmates run the asylum. Kim had ridiculous demands and was not a team player in the AD.

I'm not the biggest Linda Livingstone fan, but I 100% support not giving into Kim's ego. Kim didn't want to be here and she really didn't hide it very well. That's why she's gone.

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She didn't want to be here because MACK RHODEZ treated her poorly. This has been festering ever since he arrived on campus.

BleedGreen&Gold said:

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Bear15 said:

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pwactwac said:

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You just keep supporting that we have a leadership problem clearly with our AD and President. Strong leaders would not have allowed things to fester and culminate with CKM leaving. Just sayin....

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Strong leaders don't let the inmates run the asylum. Kim had ridiculous demands and was not a team player in the AD.

I'm not the biggest Linda Livingstone fan, but I 100% support not giving into Kim's ego. Kim didn't want to be here and she really didn't hide it very well. That's why she's gone.

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She didn't want to be here because MACK RHODEZ treated her poorly. This has been festering ever since he arrived on campus.

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No, Mack wasn't kissing her ass and giving into her demands. Ian always did and we saw how that worked out for him.