Blessed to receive an offer from Baylor University @BaylorWBB Head Coach Nicki Collenš»š pic.twitter.com/JtqBAjr6ua
— Chloe Clardy (@chloeclardy13) May 24, 2021
Blessed to receive an offer from Baylor University @BaylorWBB Head Coach Nicki Collenš»š pic.twitter.com/JtqBAjr6ua
— Chloe Clardy (@chloeclardy13) May 24, 2021
Weāre excited to get our 10th offer from @BaylorWBB ā¼ļø Thank you @NickiCollen & @TariC21, talk real soon! pic.twitter.com/1YUryWJ3Af
— Mia & Mya J. Pauldo āTBC/TwinBackCourtā (@TwinBackCourt) May 20, 2021
Appears so. Regardless, I'm happy to see CNC and staff at work. This is 247sports on Chloe Clardy....PartyBear said:
Are these the same level of players we have been offering over the past 15 or so years?
From a recruiting ranking perspective, yes on Clardy. A year away from seeing 2025 rankings.PartyBear said:
Are these the same level of players we have been offering over the past 15 or so years?
Not sure but the twins from NJ just finished 8th grade, seems like it will be a few years to actually know what kind of players they are.PartyBear said:
Are these the same level of players we have been offering over the past 15 or so years?
I know people are looking for any reason they can find to feel better about this program. We just took a shot to the gut. That said, resort to relying on history to support and validate your feelings. And history or no history, offers mean nothing. Anybody can offer a kid. Verbal commitments are almost as worthless. I have been following this process for too many years, only to see a kid jump off our wagon after thinking they were rock solid green and gold. They're kids. Commitment means nothing to this generation. And now with the transfer portal, a kid can sign a LOI, suit up for you for 12 months and still bolt on your program. If you want to "feel good" about your program, you only have one solution. Go look in the trophy case. Hardware is the only honest way to get you feelings juiced. Conference and National Championships are your only drug.Lynnp550 said:
Doesn't this news make us all feel better already?!!!
Sloan doubled him upTxRainMkr said:
We only have two coaches, but it's good we are out there recruiting. Too bad Herb Reynolds isn't still around. He loved recruiting twins to Baylor.
Thanks for the update, Bill. Hopefully this staff can concentrate on recruiting legacy players from the state of Texas in the short term. The initial reaction to our new coach was totally underwhelming.DFW Bill said:
One reason Maddie Cox dropped from the Top 25 is she played Volleyball for Flower Mound and the team went into a deep playoff run, only played 8 or 9 basketball games this season. She is like Lauren in that she was outstanding in Volleyball as a Sophomore. Maddie will go to Baylor or LSU, but if it is somewhere else, it will be with Sammie Wagner, they are bonded at the waist.
Soon after CNC was announced we lost a LOI signee and a verbal pledge from a HS sophomore while nobody new jumped on-board. To me, that's underwhelming.BUatbirth said:
"The initial reaction to our new coach was totally underwhelming."
Sarcasm or a serious statement?
Honestly, the recruiting services rarely watch HS games due to the weak level of competition. 99% of rankings is based upon AAU Spring/Summer ball [where the top players face one another]. Missing any portion of AAU ball normally results in a rankings drop [hence the big drop for Sa'Myah Smith as she rehabbed her knee].DFW Bill said:
One reason Maddie Cox dropped from the Top 25 is she played Volleyball for Flower Mound and the team went into a deep playoff run, only played 8 or 9 basketball games this season. She is like Lauren in that she was outstanding in Volleyball as a Sophomore. Maddie will go to Baylor or LSU, but if it is somewhere else, it will be with Sammie Wagner, they are bonded at the waist.
Ok, that's true. However, I'll temper those facts with this fact...the core of our players have stayed. Many were predicting a mass desertion and that didn't happen either. Maybe cutting hairs, but I'd say partially underwhelming versus totally. Also to your point, consider this, IMO...this has had more to to with CKM leaving than anything about CNC. I was actually pleasantly surprised that our Alabama transfer remained committed to BU after meeting CNC. Admittedly, I'm a glass half full type.ABC BEAR said:Soon after CNC was announced we lost a LOI signee and a verbal pledge from a HS sophomore while nobody new jumped on-board. To me, that's underwhelming.BUatbirth said:
"The initial reaction to our new coach was totally underwhelming."
Sarcasm or a serious statement?
Fair enough, BUatbirth. Your point is a good one.BUatbirth said:Ok, that's true. However, I'll temper those facts with this fact...the core of our players have stayed. Many were predicting a mass desertion and that didn't happen either. Maybe cutting hairs, but I'd say partially underwhelming versus totally. Also to your point, consider this, IMO...this has had more to to with CKM leaving than anything about CNC. I was actually pleasantly surprised that our Alabama transfer remained committed to BU after meeting CNC. Admittedly, I'm a glass half full type.ABC BEAR said:Soon after CNC was announced we lost a LOI signee and a verbal pledge from a HS sophomore while nobody new jumped on-board. To me, that's underwhelming.BUatbirth said:
"The initial reaction to our new coach was totally underwhelming."
Sarcasm or a serious statement?
I guess you missed Lauren Cox's welcoming video for CNC introduction at the Ferrell CenterTxRainMkr said:
It's going to be hard to keep Maddie away from LSU, if they want her. Cox' Dad wore a "Kim Mulkey Is My Homegirl" shirt to about every away game Lauren's senior year.
They've already made those shirts in purple for all the new LSU womens bball fansTxRainMkr said:
Cox' Dad wore a "Kim Mulkey Is My Homegirl" shirt to about every away game Lauren's senior year.
It was no secret as early as the first week in April that Mark Davis was interested in Nikki Fargas for President of the Las Vegas Aces. He already knew she wanted out of college basketball. The grind of recruiting was getting old and not her thing. She was never going to turn LSU WBB around and she and everyone else knew it. Nikki and her husband Justin Fargas are friends of Mark's. He already knew where Nikki's mind was. Justin was drafted by Davis via the Oakland Raiders in 2003. Davis flew into Baton Rouge on April 12th. He and Nikki were seen discussing it over lunch at the Baton Rouge "PF Changs." LSU liked Nikki. Class act. So they let her process with Davis play out and she bowed out gracefully. The ball from boosters was already rolling as they got wind of it early on and immediately applied pressure to AD staff to seek Mulkey out as a possibility. Kim never contacted LSU. Woodward's people planted the seed with Kim. Kim listened and now we are here.setshot said:
Mulkey's sudden departure was a surprise for everyone, probably for Mulkey, as well, since LSU had, at least in the formal sense, a coach in place there despite rumors that she would be replaced. Had Mulkey not phoned in, the probability is that LSU would not have had her high on the list of coaches both desirable and accessible. I was among those who thought that she would be at Baylor until she retired, as there were many reasons for that and not too many that seemed too promising otherwise. If that was indeed what Kim Mulkey wanted, then I am glad for her.
My skeptical reaction to those who suspected that she might be attracted to the LSU position reminded me of the Union General John Sedgwick, who said to his troops, "I'm ashamed of you, dodging that way. They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance." Shortly thereafter a Confederate bullet struck his skill and killed him.
Not to be too dramatic about this, but Mulkey's decision made my reassurances to my fellow posters look similarly foolish, and I don't hesitate to confess it as such.
Meantime, our former coach left the Lady Bear program in fine shape for next year and in terrible shape for the year or two following, overloaded with senior personnel and woefully thin below that. Her departure immediately brought defections, as every event of that kind now does as a result of the loosening of transfer rules. It is rare that early commits stay with their commitment when the coaches who recruit them leave, but sometimes they come back to the commitment when they are recruited by the new staff. I think that both Wagner and Cox may do that, but if they choose otherwise, while regrettable, it is well within the bounds of normal practice in today's recruitment. It is a wait and see situation with both, but I think that Baylor has a good chance there.
What we must not do is rush to fill spots on the roster with prospects and projects who are not promising in terms of quality. Some are needed, but Mulkey had three years to fill the pipeline following the departure of Grayson and DeCosta, and the graduation of several others and Andrews is the only high school commitment on the roster to show for it. Owens was highly recruited and her transfer was thought to be advantageous, but she rarely played last year so we don't know how she fits. The other transfers are one year rentals, useful but of no long term significance.
In short, Collen has her work cut out for her. The condition of the program as currently constituted appears to be healthier than it in fact is...we have a one year reprieve before the recruiting results of the past three years becomes a problem of severe proportions. The new staff will have minutes on the floor to dangle in front of portal transfers and high school prospects and that is a two edged sword.
Abraham Lincoln once said that "We must not promise what we ought not, lest we be called on to perform what we cannot." The same thing can be said about what we do on this board, where over hoping leads to over hyping, and vice versa. Collen may or may not justify our hopes for her, but she deserves more patience than our short recollections of the past two decades dictate for her. Mulkey was both very good and very lucky, as all the great coaches must be, and while luck may be the residue of preparation, the fact that a gangly 6'8" sophomore came to a Baylor summer camp and committed two years ahead of time is unlikely to be replicated, either for Collen, or for that matter, Mulkey. That commitment formed the foundation for Baylor dominance for over a decade.
Exactly - something transpired to start that train rolling, and THAT is what I want to know...ABC BEAR said:
Nothing about Kim going to LSU made any logical sense and Kim is a highly logical person.....so, the whole affair causes me to scratch my chin whiskers and say hmmmm.