Astros record -- 68-36, 58 games remaining
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Magic Number to clinch AL West/Playoff Spot -- 42 (over Mariners)
Magic Number to clinch homefield in ALDS -- 48 (over Yankees)
Magic Number to clinch homefield throughout AL Playoffs -- 49 (over Indians)
Magic Number to clinch homefield throughout the Playoffs -- 64 (over Dodgers)

I was appalled to see that 5 of the 6 best records in the league were NL teams.

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I was appalled to see that 5 of the 6 best records in the league were NL teams.

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It's because they get to play the 8-9 crappy teams in the NL so often.

Astros record -- 69-36, 57 games remaining
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Magic Number to clinch AL West/Playoff Spot -- 41 (over Mariners)
Magic Number to clinch homefield in ALDS -- 47 (over Yankees OR Indians)
Magic Number to clinch homefield throughout AL Playoffs -- 47 (over Yankees AND Indians)
Magic Number to clinch homefield throughout the Playoffs -- 63 (over Dodgers)

LIRIANO??? WHAT IN THE HELL IS THIS MESS?

Here we go again, doing just like Drayton, stick a bandaid on it and keep going.

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LIRIANO??? WHAT IN THE HELL IS THIS MESS?

Here we go again, doing just like Drayton, stick a bandaid on it and keep going.

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Well to be fair Drayton did sell off most of our farm for high-paid, small return players that wrecked us for almost a decade. However, we did need another starting pitcher and not taking at least one high-profile trade is baffling. Go 'Stros!!!

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LIRIANO??? WHAT IN THE HELL IS THIS MESS?

Here we go again, doing just like Drayton, stick a bandaid on it and keep going.

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Well to be fair Drayton did sell off most of our farm for high-paid, small return players that wrecked us for almost a decade. However, we did need another starting pitcher and not taking at least one high-profile trade is baffling. Go 'Stros!!!

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Yep. You could say Drayton is a prime example of why you shouldn't make trades just to appease the media into thinking you are trying.

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LIRIANO??? WHAT IN THE HELL IS THIS MESS?

Here we go again, doing just like Drayton, stick a bandaid on it and keep going.

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Well to be fair Drayton did sell off most of our farm for high-paid, small return players that wrecked us for almost a decade. However, we did need another starting pitcher and not taking at least one high-profile trade is baffling. Go 'Stros!!!

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Yep. You could say Drayton is a prime example of why you shouldn't make trades just to appease the media into thinking you are trying.

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You should have given the As Fisher/ Martes for Gray. Or any number of our minor league prospects, thats what theyre for.

Win now. Get a trophy. Id love to see the Astros go all-in to get a WS championship instead of jackin with the Lirianos of the world.

Thanks for making this thread. The one on baylor fans wasn't gonna last.

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Bear8084 said:

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GoldMind said:

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LIRIANO??? WHAT IN THE HELL IS THIS MESS?

Here we go again, doing just like Drayton, stick a bandaid on it and keep going.

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Well to be fair Drayton did sell off most of our farm for high-paid, small return players that wrecked us for almost a decade. However, we did need another starting pitcher and not taking at least one high-profile trade is baffling. Go 'Stros!!!

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Yep. You could say Drayton is a prime example of why you shouldn't make trades just to appease the media into thinking you are trying.

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You should have given the As Fisher/ Martes for Gray. Or any number of our minor league prospects, thats what theyre for.

Win now. Get a trophy. Id love to see the Astros go all-in to get a WS championship instead of jackin with the Lirianos of the world.

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I bet the A's required Kyle Tucker plus others since the Astros are an intradivision opponent.

Anyone going to Baylor day @ Astros tomorrow?
Wife wants to take the kiddo, but didn't get tix in time thru Baylor ticket office.
Wondering what section they'll have us in?

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Anyone going to Baylor day @ Astros tomorrow?
Wife wants to take the kiddo, but didn't get tix in time thru Baylor ticket office.
Wondering what section they'll have us in?

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$88/person which includes food. Section 107.

Im going to try to come sit there, but thats kinda steep pricing.

Astros have been shut out twice in the past week. If they don't show up, why should I?

I love them, but yeeech.

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Astros have been shut out twice in the past week. If they don't show up, why should I?

I love them, but yeeech.

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This right here is why I bash Houston fans constantly. Worst fans in Texas.

"Oh fk, my team lost a game, guess there's no reason to acknowledge their existence any more"

Thanks brother.
Not sure the wife and kid are worth section 107.

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Ironically, the Wife and I are taking a mini-vacation to Waco during this.

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Astros have been shut out twice in the past week. If they don't show up, why should I?

I love them, but yeeech.

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This right here is why I bash Houston fans constantly. Worst fans in Texas.

"Oh fk, my team lost a game, guess there's no reason to acknowledge their existence any more"

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Throttle back a little bit. Every fan base has lamenting fans.

You could just have easily reacted to my story that last week my wife and I had 3 days without our kids to travel anywhere, and we chose Philadelphia to see the Astros play 2 road games, and declared that "This right here is why I praise Houston fans constantly. Best fans in Texas. "

Either reaction would have been overboard.

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GoldMind said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Astros have been shut out twice in the past week. If they don't show up, why should I?

I love them, but yeeech.

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This right here is why I bash Houston fans constantly. Worst fans in Texas.

"Oh fk, my team lost a game, guess there's no reason to acknowledge their existence any more"

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Ease up. Every fan base has lamenting fans.

You could just have easily reacted to my story that last week my wife and I has 3 days without our kids to travel anywhere, and we chose Philadelphia to see the Astros play two road games, and declared that "This right here is why I praise Houston fans constantly. Best fans in Texas. "

Either reaction would have been overboard.

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Hold up.

This has been a prevailing theme for Houston teams since 1995. Years of heartbreak coupled with low expectations have crippled fandom in Houston for years. Astros are on pace to shatter their franchise record and we get comments like the above still. I've lived all over the state and this kind of glass half empty mentality is found nowhere else. And that's Texans, Rockets and Astros.

Im trying to change the narrative.

Here is some positivity from a lifelong Houston fan. This Astros group will win at least 1 World Series in the next 3 years. That said it sure would have been nice to get some more pieces to make that year this year. Luckily there is plenty of time left to heal up and get back in their groove before October.

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Here is some positivity from a lifelong Houston fan. This Astros group will win at least 1 World Series in the next 3 years. That said it sure would have been nice to get some more pieces to make that year this year. Luckily there is plenty of time left to heal up and get back in their groove before October.

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That's what the **** I'm talking about. Get happy. This team will take us to ASTROnomical heights!! Get your asses to the Box and watch some games!! Enjoy it!!

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I've lived all over the state and this kind of glass half empty mentality is found nowhere else. And that's Texans, Rockets and Astros.

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You are just not looking for it elsewhere.

The name of the Rangers thread on BF is called " A season of tears and Despair". That called it that when the Rangers were 1 game out of the playoffs. Even now they are just 4.5 out and the sicem365 thread is matter of factory just playing out the string. Talk about glass half empty.

But guess what ... I know marco and Oldbear83, and I know they are great fans that are just expressing temporary frustration. So I won't make broad generalizations about a fan base based off it.

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Oldbear83 said:

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Astros have been shut out twice in the past week. If they don't show up, why should I?

I love them, but yeeech.

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This right here is why I bash Houston fans constantly. Worst fans in Texas.

"Oh fk, my team lost a game, guess there's no reason to acknowledge their existence any more"

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Ease up. Every fan base has lamenting fans.

You could just have easily reacted to my story that last week my wife and I has 3 days without our kids to travel anywhere, and we chose Philadelphia to see the Astros play two road games, and declared that "This right here is why I praise Houston fans constantly. Best fans in Texas. "

Either reaction would have been overboard.

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Im trying to change the narrative.

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Are you? Or are you just trying to shut down anyone with valid concerns?

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GoldMind said:

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ValpoCory said:

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GoldMind said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Astros have been shut out twice in the past week. If they don't show up, why should I?

I love them, but yeeech.

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This right here is why I bash Houston fans constantly. Worst fans in Texas.

"Oh fk, my team lost a game, guess there's no reason to acknowledge their existence any more"

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Ease up. Every fan base has lamenting fans.

You could just have easily reacted to my story that last week my wife and I has 3 days without our kids to travel anywhere, and we chose Philadelphia to see the Astros play two road games, and declared that "This right here is why I praise Houston fans constantly. Best fans in Texas. "

Either reaction would have been overboard.

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Im trying to change the narrative.

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Are you? Or are you just trying to shut down anyone with valid concerns?

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Invalid concerns, mostly. This is the best team the city has ever seen, and still they b itch.

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Oldbear83 said:

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GoldMind said:

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ValpoCory said:

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GoldMind said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Astros have been shut out twice in the past week. If they don't show up, why should I?

I love them, but yeeech.

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This right here is why I bash Houston fans constantly. Worst fans in Texas.

"Oh fk, my team lost a game, guess there's no reason to acknowledge their existence any more"

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Ease up. Every fan base has lamenting fans.

You could just have easily reacted to my story that last week my wife and I has 3 days without our kids to travel anywhere, and we chose Philadelphia to see the Astros play two road games, and declared that "This right here is why I praise Houston fans constantly. Best fans in Texas. "

Either reaction would have been overboard.

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Im trying to change the narrative.

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Are you? Or are you just trying to shut down anyone with valid concerns?

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Invalid concerns, mostly. This is the best team the city has ever seen, and still they b itch.

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Get back to me when we win a World Series game. Until then, the 2005 team was our best, and that team had issues, too.

Or are you one of those people who puts a sticker over the 'check engine' light when it comes on?

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GoldMind said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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GoldMind said:

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ValpoCory said:

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GoldMind said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Astros have been shut out twice in the past week. If they don't show up, why should I?

I love them, but yeeech.

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This right here is why I bash Houston fans constantly. Worst fans in Texas.

"Oh fk, my team lost a game, guess there's no reason to acknowledge their existence any more"

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Ease up. Every fan base has lamenting fans.

You could just have easily reacted to my story that last week my wife and I has 3 days without our kids to travel anywhere, and we chose Philadelphia to see the Astros play two road games, and declared that "This right here is why I praise Houston fans constantly. Best fans in Texas. "

Either reaction would have been overboard.

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Im trying to change the narrative.

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Are you? Or are you just trying to shut down anyone with valid concerns?

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Invalid concerns, mostly. This is the best team the city has ever seen, and still they b itch.

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Get back to me when we win a World Series game. Until then, the 2005 team was our best, and that team had issues, too.

Or are you one of those people who puts a sticker over the 'check engine' light when it comes on?

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No, that team was 89-73, this team in on pace to annihilate that. 15 games ahead of the nearest competition. 16.5 ahead at the all-star break.

I don't see any issues, other than piss poor attitudes from alleged "fans".

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GoldMind said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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GoldMind said:

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ValpoCory said:

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GoldMind said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Astros have been shut out twice in the past week. If they don't show up, why should I?

I love them, but yeeech.

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This right here is why I bash Houston fans constantly. Worst fans in Texas.

"Oh fk, my team lost a game, guess there's no reason to acknowledge their existence any more"

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Ease up. Every fan base has lamenting fans.

You could just have easily reacted to my story that last week my wife and I has 3 days without our kids to travel anywhere, and we chose Philadelphia to see the Astros play two road games, and declared that "This right here is why I praise Houston fans constantly. Best fans in Texas. "

Either reaction would have been overboard.

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Im trying to change the narrative.

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Are you? Or are you just trying to shut down anyone with valid concerns?

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Invalid concerns, mostly. This is the best team the city has ever seen, and still they b itch.

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Get back to me when we win a World Series game. Until then, the 2005 team was our best, and that team had issues, too.

Or are you one of those people who puts a sticker over the 'check engine' light when it comes on?

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No, that team was 89-73, this team in on pace to annihilate that. 15 games ahead of the nearest competition. 16.5 ahead at the all-star break.

I don't see any issues, other than piss poor attitudes from alleged "fans".

OK then. So you have something in common with this guy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Saeed_al-Sahhaf

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GoldMind said:

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GoldMind said:

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GoldMind said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Astros have been shut out twice in the past week. If they don't show up, why should I?

I love them, but yeeech.

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This right here is why I bash Houston fans constantly. Worst fans in Texas.

"Oh fk, my team lost a game, guess there's no reason to acknowledge their existence any more"

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Ease up. Every fan base has lamenting fans.

You could just have easily reacted to my story that last week my wife and I has 3 days without our kids to travel anywhere, and we chose Philadelphia to see the Astros play two road games, and declared that "This right here is why I praise Houston fans constantly. Best fans in Texas. "

Either reaction would have been overboard.

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Im trying to change the narrative.

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Are you? Or are you just trying to shut down anyone with valid concerns?

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Invalid concerns, mostly. This is the best team the city has ever seen, and still they b itch.

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Get back to me when we win a World Series game. Until then, the 2005 team was our best, and that team had issues, too.

Or are you one of those people who puts a sticker over the 'check engine' light when it comes on?

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No, that team was 89-73, this team in on pace to annihilate that. 15 games ahead of the nearest competition. 16.5 ahead at the all-star break.

I don't see any issues, other than piss poor attitudes from alleged "fans".

OK then. So you have something in common with this guy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Saeed_al-Sahhaf

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Just keep the defeatist attitude to yourself, it wont do you much good here.

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Oldbear83 said:

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GoldMind said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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GoldMind said:

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ValpoCory said:

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GoldMind said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Astros have been shut out twice in the past week. If they don't show up, why should I?

I love them, but yeeech.

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This right here is why I bash Houston fans constantly. Worst fans in Texas.

"Oh fk, my team lost a game, guess there's no reason to acknowledge their existence any more"

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Ease up. Every fan base has lamenting fans.

You could just have easily reacted to my story that last week my wife and I has 3 days without our kids to travel anywhere, and we chose Philadelphia to see the Astros play two road games, and declared that "This right here is why I praise Houston fans constantly. Best fans in Texas. "

Either reaction would have been overboard.

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Im trying to change the narrative.

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Are you? Or are you just trying to shut down anyone with valid concerns?

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Invalid concerns, mostly. This is the best team the city has ever seen, and still they b itch.

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Get back to me when we win a World Series game. Until then, the 2005 team was our best, and that team had issues, too.

Or are you one of those people who puts a sticker over the 'check engine' light when it comes on?

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No, that team was 89-73, this team in on pace to annihilate that. 15 games ahead of the nearest competition. 16.5 ahead at the all-star break.

I don't see any issues, other than piss poor attitudes from alleged "fans".

OK then. So you have something in common with this guy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Saeed_al-Sahhaf

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Just keep the defeatist attitude to yourself, it wont do you much good here.

The appropriate word for this concern is 'pragmatic'. "Defeatist" is over on the Rangers thread.

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GoldMind said:

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GoldMind said:

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ValpoCory said:

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GoldMind said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Astros have been shut out twice in the past week. If they don't show up, why should I?

I love them, but yeeech.

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This right here is why I bash Houston fans constantly. Worst fans in Texas.

"Oh fk, my team lost a game, guess there's no reason to acknowledge their existence any more"

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Ease up. Every fan base has lamenting fans.

You could just have easily reacted to my story that last week my wife and I has 3 days without our kids to travel anywhere, and we chose Philadelphia to see the Astros play two road games, and declared that "This right here is why I praise Houston fans constantly. Best fans in Texas. "

Either reaction would have been overboard.

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Im trying to change the narrative.

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Are you? Or are you just trying to shut down anyone with valid concerns?

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Invalid concerns, mostly. This is the best team the city has ever seen, and still they b itch.

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Get back to me when we win a World Series game. Until then, the 2005 team was our best, and that team had issues, too.

Or are you one of those people who puts a sticker over the 'check engine' light when it comes on?

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No, that team was 89-73, this team in on pace to annihilate that. 15 games ahead of the nearest competition. 16.5 ahead at the all-star break.

I don't see any issues, other than piss poor attitudes from alleged "fans".

OK then. So you have something in common with this guy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Saeed_al-Sahhaf

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Just keep the defeatist attitude to yourself, it wont do you much good here.

The appropriate word for this concern is 'pragmatic'. "Defeatist" is over on the Rangers thread.

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Astros have been shut out twice in the past week. If they don't show up, why should I?

I love them, but yeeech.

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This doesn't scream pragmatism, but whatever,

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GoldMind said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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GoldMind said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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GoldMind said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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GoldMind said:

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GoldMind said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Astros have been shut out twice in the past week. If they don't show up, why should I?

I love them, but yeeech.

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This right here is why I bash Houston fans constantly. Worst fans in Texas.

"Oh fk, my team lost a game, guess there's no reason to acknowledge their existence any more"

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Ease up. Every fan base has lamenting fans.

You could just have easily reacted to my story that last week my wife and I has 3 days without our kids to travel anywhere, and we chose Philadelphia to see the Astros play two road games, and declared that "This right here is why I praise Houston fans constantly. Best fans in Texas. "

Either reaction would have been overboard.

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Im trying to change the narrative.

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Are you? Or are you just trying to shut down anyone with valid concerns?

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Invalid concerns, mostly. This is the best team the city has ever seen, and still they b itch.

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Get back to me when we win a World Series game. Until then, the 2005 team was our best, and that team had issues, too.

Or are you one of those people who puts a sticker over the 'check engine' light when it comes on?

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No, that team was 89-73, this team in on pace to annihilate that. 15 games ahead of the nearest competition. 16.5 ahead at the all-star break.

I don't see any issues, other than piss poor attitudes from alleged "fans".

OK then. So you have something in common with this guy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Saeed_al-Sahhaf

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Just keep the defeatist attitude to yourself, it wont do you much good here.

The appropriate word for this concern is 'pragmatic'. "Defeatist" is over on the Rangers thread.

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Astros have been shut out twice in the past week. If they don't show up, why should I?

I love them, but yeeech.

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This doesn't scream pragmatism, but whatever,

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Depends on how much you spend at Minute Maid Park.

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