I'm told it isn't important, piddly games and all that, but the Astros are down 4 runs to the worst team in the AL again. Astros playing like a minor league team, even after return of Springer.
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Going to the bottom of the 6th, Astros have 4 hits, no runs, no excuses.
6 Innings in the books. White Sox have 7 runs on 10 hits, the Astros have no runs on 4 hits.
The Astros have apparently taken the month off, and are letting the high school team of your choice wear their uniforms.
As is becoming all too common, the Astros are being out-pitched, out-hit, outscored, and out-coached. Liriano, the guy that amounted to the total effort to improve the bullpen, has so far thrown like he belongs in A ball.
The Astros have apparently taken the month off, and are letting the high school team of your choice wear their uniforms.
As is becoming all too common, the Astros are being out-pitched, out-hit, outscored, and out-coached. Liriano, the guy that amounted to the total effort to improve the bullpen, has so far thrown like he belongs in A ball.
Oldbear83 said:
I'm told it isn't important, piddly games and all that, but the Astros are down 4 runs to the worst team in the AL again. Astros playing like a minor league team, even after return of Springer.
Over the course of 162 games, it is not ususual for the worst team in the league to beat the best team in the league. You might want to have be doctor check your meds.
D. C. Bear said:Oldbear83 said:
I'm told it isn't important, piddly games and all that, but the Astros are down 4 runs to the worst team in the AL again. Astros playing like a minor league team, even after return of Springer.
Over the course of 162 games, it is not ususual for the worst team in the league to beat the best team in the league. You might want to have be doctor check your meds.
Good form
Winning by cheating is just as impressive as winning fairly, probably even more so. Your opponent was better than you in every way, and you beat them with your brain.
Since you are all-knowing, why haven't the Dodgers suffered such a stretch? Or the Nationals, Red Sox, or Indians?D. C. Bear said:Oldbear83 said:
I'm told it isn't important, piddly games and all that, but the Astros are down 4 runs to the worst team in the AL again. Astros playing like a minor league team, even after return of Springer.
Over the course of 162 games, it is not ususual for the worst team in the league to beat the best team in the league. You might want to have be doctor check your meds.
It is unusual for a team to go from winning streaks to losing multiple series to last-place teams.
Oldbear83 said:Since you are all-knowing, why haven't the Dodgers suffered such a stretch? Or the Nationals, Red Sox, or Indians?D. C. Bear said:Oldbear83 said:
I'm told it isn't important, piddly games and all that, but the Astros are down 4 runs to the worst team in the AL again. Astros playing like a minor league team, even after return of Springer.
Over the course of 162 games, it is not ususual for the worst team in the league to beat the best team in the league. You might want to have be doctor check your meds.
It is unusual for a team to go from winning streaks to losing multiple series to last-place teams.
What the Dodgers are doing is highly unusual. If they continue to win at this pace, they will have one of the top ten best baseball seasons in MLB history. You are asking why the Dodgers have not had a stretch with some losses? They are an outlier.
D. C. Bear said:Oldbear83 said:Since you are all-knowing, why haven't the Dodgers suffered such a stretch? Or the Nationals, Red Sox, or Indians?D. C. Bear said:Oldbear83 said:
I'm told it isn't important, piddly games and all that, but the Astros are down 4 runs to the worst team in the AL again. Astros playing like a minor league team, even after return of Springer.
Over the course of 162 games, it is not ususual for the worst team in the league to beat the best team in the league. You might want to have be doctor check your meds.
It is unusual for a team to go from winning streaks to losing multiple series to last-place teams.
What the Dodgers are doing is highly unusual. If they continue to win at this pace, they will have one of the top ten best baseball seasons in MLB history. You are asking why the Dodgers have not had a stretch with some losses? They are an outlier.
Indeed. Exceptionally rare. And the Indians did suffer a couple rough stretches back in June. I'm remaining hopeful we can procure another arm soon.
Winning by cheating is just as impressive as winning fairly, probably even more so. Your opponent was better than you in every way, and you beat them with your brain.
Astros lose again, ninth loss in the last 12 games.
The 2016 Cubs had a 5-15 stretch, which included a 1-9 stretch.Oldbear83 said:Since you are all-knowing, why haven't the Dodgers suffered such a stretch? Or the Nationals, Red Sox, or Indians?D. C. Bear said:Oldbear83 said:
I'm told it isn't important, piddly games and all that, but the Astros are down 4 runs to the worst team in the AL again. Astros playing like a minor league team, even after return of Springer.
Over the course of 162 games, it is not ususual for the worst team in the league to beat the best team in the league. You might want to have be doctor check your meds.
It is unusual for a team to go from winning streaks to losing multiple series to last-place teams.
Since June 5th, the Astros are 29-27. When your Ace and key players almost all go down at the same time, it's not surprising.Oldbear83 said:
Astros lose again, ninth loss in the last 12 games.
ValpoCory said:Since June 5th, the Astros are 29-27. It's been a prolonged stretch of mediocre baseball.Oldbear83 said:
Astros lose again, ninth loss in the last 12 games.
When your Ace and key players almost all go down at the same time, it's not surprising.
Since June 5th, them Stros are still the best team in the AL.
Winning by cheating is just as impressive as winning fairly, probably even more so. Your opponent was better than you in every way, and you beat them with your brain.
Astros finally get their first hit of the night in the top of the 4th Inning against the Rangers, who scored 4 runs in their first 3 innings.
In other words, whatever is ailing the Astros (lousy pitching, lousy offense) continues to sicken.
I get that the Astros are still missing some guys, but bring back Keuchel and Springer did not help either the defense or the offense.
Anyone not concerned is not an Astros fan.
In other words, whatever is ailing the Astros (lousy pitching, lousy offense) continues to sicken.
I get that the Astros are still missing some guys, but bring back Keuchel and Springer did not help either the defense or the offense.
Anyone not concerned is not an Astros fan.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Astros go 1-2-3 in the 6th on just 5 pitches. Freaking clueless at the plate.
This is nothing like the team that dominated the league earlier in the season.
This is nothing like the team that dominated the league earlier in the season.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Astros show up in the 8th!
Boy I would love to eat crow tonight!
Go Astros!
Boy I would love to eat crow tonight!
Go Astros!
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Astros score 4 in the 8th to scare the Rangers, Springer gets a 2-out hit in the 9th to bring the tying run to the plate. Alex Bregman gets a single to bring Altuve to the plate. Jose with a chance to give Houston the lead.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Altuve called out on strikes to end the game. Astros lose their 4th straight and 10th of their last 13 games.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Astros behind in the bottom of the 5th 4-2, Liriano comes in with two men on base and does damn near everything he can to make sure the Astros keep losing. Two hits, a walk and two hit batsmen, score is now 6-2 Texas and the bases are loaded.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Astros outfield bails out Liriano, but the Astros are down by 4 now and still show no hint of the team they were when they knew how to score.
EDIT: Rangers challenge the tag at home ... play stands. Astros avoid further damage, go to the 6th down by 4, with a clueless pitcher and a stalled offense, but just maybe they can come back like they almost did last night.
EDIT: Rangers challenge the tag at home ... play stands. Astros avoid further damage, go to the 6th down by 4, with a clueless pitcher and a stalled offense, but just maybe they can come back like they almost did last night.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
8-3 Rangers now. Astros just nowhere near the form they had in the late Spring.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Astros lose their 5th straight game 8 to 3. Poor pitching, poor base running, really bad coaching.
Astros are now 3 and 11 in their last 14 games.
Anyone still think they are in great shape?
Astros are now 3 and 11 in their last 14 games.
Anyone still think they are in great shape?
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Oldbear83 said:
Astros lose their 5th straight game 8 to 3. Poor pitching, poor base running, really bad coaching.
Astros are now 3 and 11 in their last 14 games.
Anyone still think they are in great shape?
no... they are a mess right now...
but, they are a sound team going through a really bad stretch... it's 162 games... a marathon, not a sprint...
they have 2 #1 pitchers that will progress to the mean over the next 2 months...
they have a #2 that hasn't even thrown 4 games yet and is as fresh as any pitcher in baseball, and has been throwing well even though his record doesn't show it...
they have a #3 that every other team in MLB would take as their 4th best pitcher, in a heartbeat.
and, they are the best offensive team in the AL over 2/3 of the season that is admittedly in a really bad slump right now.
I believe they will return to form over their next 50 games and go into the playoffs healthy and swinging like they did for most of the year.
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Keuchel in good form through 6, but still weak support from the Astros offense.
1-1 going to the 7th.
1-1 going to the 7th.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Giles gets out of a jam with a Double Play. going to the 9th, Astros lead 2-1
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Keuchel, Devo, and Giles pitch the Astros to a 2-1 win. The hitting is still weak and one win does not undo all the damage, but is welcome all the same.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Back on track. Today was a good day.
Winning by cheating is just as impressive as winning fairly, probably even more so. Your opponent was better than you in every way, and you beat them with your brain.
One game, and the bats were nearly absent.GoldMind said:
Back on track. Today was a good day.
Nice to win, but we are still only 4-11 for our last 15 games. Real good to see Keuchel pitch well, but McHugh and the rest need to get back to speed.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Oldbear83 said:One game, and the bats were nearly absent.GoldMind said:
Back on track. Today was a good day.
Nice to win, but we are still only 4-11 for our last 15 games. Real good to see Keuchel pitch well, but McHugh and the rest need to get back to speed.
Why don't you try being a fan for a while instead of a wannabe GM?
D. C. Bear said:Oldbear83 said:One game, and the bats were nearly absent.GoldMind said:
Back on track. Today was a good day.
Nice to win, but we are still only 4-11 for our last 15 games. Real good to see Keuchel pitch well, but McHugh and the rest need to get back to speed.
Why don't you try being a fan for a while instead of a wannabe GM?
His concerns are pretty legit and realistic concerns for the team as of now.
Aaaand we just got relief pitcher Tyler Clippard from the White Sox for a player to be names later or a cash consideration. Interesting. Go 'Stros!!!!
Great pick up. Now this is the type of trade I have been looking for. Get a useful piece that has been pitching well (1.50 ERA in 13 2nd half games), while not giving up more than a low level minor leaguer or cash. Houston gave up way more to get Francisco Liriano, who was not pitching well when the Astros acquired him and has continued to not pitch well.Bear8084 said:
Aaaand we just got relief pitcher Tyler Clippard from the White Sox for a player to be names later or a cash consideration. Interesting. Go 'Stros!!!!
I wonder if Lunhow "heard" the locker room on this move? I know GMs usually dont care, just a thought.ValpoCory said:Great pick up. Now this is the type of trade I have been looking for. Get a useful piece that has been pitching well (1.50 ERA in 13 2nd half games), while not giving up more than a low level minor leaguer or cash. Houston gave up way more to get Francisco Liriano, who was not pitching well when the Astros acquired him and has continued to not pitch well.Bear8084 said:
Aaaand we just got relief pitcher Tyler Clippard from the White Sox for a player to be names later or a cash consideration. Interesting. Go 'Stros!!!!
Winning by cheating is just as impressive as winning fairly, probably even more so. Your opponent was better than you in every way, and you beat them with your brain.
When Dallas Keuchel says 'get another arm', a smart GM gets another arm for the team.GoldMind said:I wonder if Lunhow "heard" the locker room on this move? I know GMs usually dont care, just a thought.ValpoCory said:Great pick up. Now this is the type of trade I have been looking for. Get a useful piece that has been pitching well (1.50 ERA in 13 2nd half games), while not giving up more than a low level minor leaguer or cash. Houston gave up way more to get Francisco Liriano, who was not pitching well when the Astros acquired him and has continued to not pitch well.Bear8084 said:
Aaaand we just got relief pitcher Tyler Clippard from the White Sox for a player to be names later or a cash consideration. Interesting. Go 'Stros!!!!
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Astros pitching great again, Astros bats dead again, Astros lose 0-2 to the D-backs, have now lost 75% of their last sixteen games.
Anyone know why the batting coach still gets a paycheck?
Anyone know why the batting coach still gets a paycheck?
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
they still have the best run differential in the al. snakes are a ws caliber team.Oldbear83 said:
Astros pitching great again, Astros bats dead again, Astros lose 0-2 to the D-backs, have now lost 75% of their last sixteen games.
Anyone know why the batting coach still gets a paycheck?
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