Dan Patrick ready to ban CRT in Texas public universities?

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Whiskey Pete
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timetraveler said:

Rawhide said:

quash said:

Canon said:

quash said:

Canon said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Canon said:

quash said:


Government banning ideas. What could go wrong?



Government hasn't and would not be banning ideas. Government would simply cease funding the dissemination of Marxist propaganda and paying those who responsible for its dissemination.

If you'd like to spew your leftist filth (which we all know you desperately do) at a private school, by all means do that. Unless they take public money and then we know you are ok with imposing conditions on those monies as well.
I respectfully disagree. That is what the university is for. I agree that there is a lot of bull**** in universities, but I do not think that is the job of the government but the administration.


When the administration of a government funded school is completely taken over by Marxists, it's perfectly acceptable and good to remove funding for the message they sell that is designed to bring down a free society. The people can't be expected to fund the means of their own enslavement and ultimate destruction.

Removing government funding isn't a prohibition on speech. It's a leveling of the playing field. Also, it's not the engineering and math departments who are concerned. The valuable parts of the university system will remain untouched.


So ban ideas through state action.

You go a long way around with virtue signals like "Marxists" but what you are advocating is for the state to ban an idea.

When you need the power of the state to obtain your goal maybe you should try a different argument.



Why are you lying? A government ceasing to fund a thing as not a ban on a thing. A government failing to increase a budget is also not a 'cut'. But you democrats can't help but lie, can you.


It's a ban at the school, but you know that full well.

And I have no idea why you included the budget cut dodge. I've been pointing that out since you were in diapers and in response to both parties when they pull that ****

But back to banning ideas.

What if the school started teaching theory that pedophelia is acceptable then the state decided to prohibit schools from teaching it. Shame on the state?
The school isn't going to normalize racism or pedophilia no matter how much you want it to be so
I see that MHMR gave you computer access again today.
timetraveler
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Rawhide said:

timetraveler said:

Rawhide said:

quash said:

Canon said:

quash said:

Canon said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Canon said:

quash said:


Government banning ideas. What could go wrong?



Government hasn't and would not be banning ideas. Government would simply cease funding the dissemination of Marxist propaganda and paying those who responsible for its dissemination.

If you'd like to spew your leftist filth (which we all know you desperately do) at a private school, by all means do that. Unless they take public money and then we know you are ok with imposing conditions on those monies as well.
I respectfully disagree. That is what the university is for. I agree that there is a lot of bull**** in universities, but I do not think that is the job of the government but the administration.


When the administration of a government funded school is completely taken over by Marxists, it's perfectly acceptable and good to remove funding for the message they sell that is designed to bring down a free society. The people can't be expected to fund the means of their own enslavement and ultimate destruction.

Removing government funding isn't a prohibition on speech. It's a leveling of the playing field. Also, it's not the engineering and math departments who are concerned. The valuable parts of the university system will remain untouched.


So ban ideas through state action.

You go a long way around with virtue signals like "Marxists" but what you are advocating is for the state to ban an idea.

When you need the power of the state to obtain your goal maybe you should try a different argument.



Why are you lying? A government ceasing to fund a thing as not a ban on a thing. A government failing to increase a budget is also not a 'cut'. But you democrats can't help but lie, can you.


It's a ban at the school, but you know that full well.

And I have no idea why you included the budget cut dodge. I've been pointing that out since you were in diapers and in response to both parties when they pull that ****

But back to banning ideas.

What if the school started teaching theory that pedophelia is acceptable then the state decided to prohibit schools from teaching it. Shame on the state?
The school isn't going to normalize racism or pedophilia no matter how much you want it to be so
I see that MHMR gave you computer access again today.
Shouldn't you be trying to figure out your 1% property taxes you pay?
Whiskey Pete
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timetraveler said:

Rawhide said:

timetraveler said:

Rawhide said:

quash said:

Canon said:

quash said:

Canon said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Canon said:

quash said:


Government banning ideas. What could go wrong?



Government hasn't and would not be banning ideas. Government would simply cease funding the dissemination of Marxist propaganda and paying those who responsible for its dissemination.

If you'd like to spew your leftist filth (which we all know you desperately do) at a private school, by all means do that. Unless they take public money and then we know you are ok with imposing conditions on those monies as well.
I respectfully disagree. That is what the university is for. I agree that there is a lot of bull**** in universities, but I do not think that is the job of the government but the administration.


When the administration of a government funded school is completely taken over by Marxists, it's perfectly acceptable and good to remove funding for the message they sell that is designed to bring down a free society. The people can't be expected to fund the means of their own enslavement and ultimate destruction.

Removing government funding isn't a prohibition on speech. It's a leveling of the playing field. Also, it's not the engineering and math departments who are concerned. The valuable parts of the university system will remain untouched.


So ban ideas through state action.

You go a long way around with virtue signals like "Marxists" but what you are advocating is for the state to ban an idea.

When you need the power of the state to obtain your goal maybe you should try a different argument.



Why are you lying? A government ceasing to fund a thing as not a ban on a thing. A government failing to increase a budget is also not a 'cut'. But you democrats can't help but lie, can you.


It's a ban at the school, but you know that full well.

And I have no idea why you included the budget cut dodge. I've been pointing that out since you were in diapers and in response to both parties when they pull that ****

But back to banning ideas.

What if the school started teaching theory that pedophelia is acceptable then the state decided to prohibit schools from teaching it. Shame on the state?
The school isn't going to normalize racism or pedophilia no matter how much you want it to be so
I see that MHMR gave you computer access again today.
Shouldn't you be trying to figure out your 1% property taxes you pay?
I would try to explain the math to you (again(, but you'll never understand it as long as you have that bong in your hand.
Harrison Bergeron
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Rawhide said:

Canon said:

quash said:

Canon said:

quash said:

Canon said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Canon said:

quash said:


Government banning ideas. What could go wrong?



Government hasn't and would not be banning ideas. Government would simply cease funding the dissemination of Marxist propaganda and paying those who responsible for its dissemination.

If you'd like to spew your leftist filth (which we all know you desperately do) at a private school, by all means do that. Unless they take public money and then we know you are ok with imposing conditions on those monies as well.
I respectfully disagree. That is what the university is for. I agree that there is a lot of bull**** in universities, but I do not think that is the job of the government but the administration.


When the administration of a government funded school is completely taken over by Marxists, it's perfectly acceptable and good to remove funding for the message they sell that is designed to bring down a free society. The people can't be expected to fund the means of their own enslavement and ultimate destruction.

Removing government funding isn't a prohibition on speech. It's a leveling of the playing field. Also, it's not the engineering and math departments who are concerned. The valuable parts of the university system will remain untouched.


So ban ideas through state action.

You go a long way around with virtue signals like "Marxists" but what you are advocating is for the state to ban an idea.

When you need the power of the state to obtain your goal maybe you should try a different argument.



Why are you lying? A government ceasing to fund a thing as not a ban on a thing. A government failing to increase a budget is also not a 'cut'. But you democrats can't help but lie, can you.


It's a ban at the school, but you know that full well.

And I have no idea why you included the budget cut dodge. I've been pointing that out since you were in diapers and in response to both parties when they pull that ****

But back to banning ideas.



Refusing to fund a thing is not a ban on a thing. Where can that racist Marxist propaganda not be espoused? How many places? One, where government funding is used to spread the filth.
He doesn't get it, but it's simple.

The TEA is responsible for primary and secondary education. The state has authority to oversee all the public school districts in Texas and can determine what is and what is not allowed to be taught at schools they are responsible for. The government deciding what is acceptable for other governmental entities to say, do, teach, prohibit, discuss, allow or whatever is well within their right. Gov't deciding what is to be taught (or not) at gov't schools is done all the time, as it's part of their job.

Now, with that a being said, the TEA has no jurisdiction over private, parochial. If you don't like the ban on CRT, you can send your children to a private school that teaches it. Likewise, in California for instance, the gov't there requires the schools to teach LGBTQ history. If, as a parent, you don't agree with them teaching it, then send your kids to a private school that doesn't.

If the state tried to let's say, prohibit parents who are homeschooling their children from teaching CRT then that would be a problem.

Now, with all of that being said, I think it would be best for the state to allow local school boards (where its members or elected by local citizens and parents) to decide whether or not to allow teaching CRT or LGTBQ for that matter.
Hold On! You moved the goalposts. The OP is about state universities. At least in my opinion that is VERY different than primary and secondary schools. I have a much different perspective on government regulation (preferably at the local level) on primary and secondary schools than universities.
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Rawhide said:

Canon said:

quash said:

Canon said:

quash said:

Canon said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Canon said:

quash said:


Government banning ideas. What could go wrong?



Government hasn't and would not be banning ideas. Government would simply cease funding the dissemination of Marxist propaganda and paying those who responsible for its dissemination.

If you'd like to spew your leftist filth (which we all know you desperately do) at a private school, by all means do that. Unless they take public money and then we know you are ok with imposing conditions on those monies as well.
I respectfully disagree. That is what the university is for. I agree that there is a lot of bull**** in universities, but I do not think that is the job of the government but the administration.


When the administration of a government funded school is completely taken over by Marxists, it's perfectly acceptable and good to remove funding for the message they sell that is designed to bring down a free society. The people can't be expected to fund the means of their own enslavement and ultimate destruction.

Removing government funding isn't a prohibition on speech. It's a leveling of the playing field. Also, it's not the engineering and math departments who are concerned. The valuable parts of the university system will remain untouched.


So ban ideas through state action.

You go a long way around with virtue signals like "Marxists" but what you are advocating is for the state to ban an idea.

When you need the power of the state to obtain your goal maybe you should try a different argument.



Why are you lying? A government ceasing to fund a thing as not a ban on a thing. A government failing to increase a budget is also not a 'cut'. But you democrats can't help but lie, can you.


It's a ban at the school, but you know that full well.

And I have no idea why you included the budget cut dodge. I've been pointing that out since you were in diapers and in response to both parties when they pull that ****

But back to banning ideas.



Refusing to fund a thing is not a ban on a thing. Where can that racist Marxist propaganda not be espoused? How many places? One, where government funding is used to spread the filth.
He doesn't get it, but it's simple.

The TEA is responsible for primary and secondary education. The state has authority to oversee all the public school districts in Texas and can determine what is and what is not allowed to be taught at schools they are responsible for. The government deciding what is acceptable for other governmental entities to say, do, teach, prohibit, discuss, allow or whatever is well within their right. Gov't deciding what is to be taught (or not) at gov't schools is done all the time, as it's part of their job.

Now, with that a being said, the TEA has no jurisdiction over private, parochial. If you don't like the ban on CRT, you can send your children to a private school that teaches it. Likewise, in California for instance, the gov't there requires the schools to teach LGBTQ history. If, as a parent, you don't agree with them teaching it, then send your kids to a private school that doesn't.

If the state tried to let's say, prohibit parents who are homeschooling their children from teaching CRT then that would be a problem.

Now, with all of that being said, I think it would be best for the state to allow local school boards (where its members or elected by local citizens and parents) to decide whether or not to allow teaching CRT or LGTBQ for that matter.
Agreed
Whiskey Pete
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Harrison Bergeron said:

Rawhide said:

Canon said:

quash said:

Canon said:

quash said:

Canon said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Canon said:

quash said:


Government banning ideas. What could go wrong?



Government hasn't and would not be banning ideas. Government would simply cease funding the dissemination of Marxist propaganda and paying those who responsible for its dissemination.

If you'd like to spew your leftist filth (which we all know you desperately do) at a private school, by all means do that. Unless they take public money and then we know you are ok with imposing conditions on those monies as well.
I respectfully disagree. That is what the university is for. I agree that there is a lot of bull**** in universities, but I do not think that is the job of the government but the administration.


When the administration of a government funded school is completely taken over by Marxists, it's perfectly acceptable and good to remove funding for the message they sell that is designed to bring down a free society. The people can't be expected to fund the means of their own enslavement and ultimate destruction.

Removing government funding isn't a prohibition on speech. It's a leveling of the playing field. Also, it's not the engineering and math departments who are concerned. The valuable parts of the university system will remain untouched.


So ban ideas through state action.

You go a long way around with virtue signals like "Marxists" but what you are advocating is for the state to ban an idea.

When you need the power of the state to obtain your goal maybe you should try a different argument.



Why are you lying? A government ceasing to fund a thing as not a ban on a thing. A government failing to increase a budget is also not a 'cut'. But you democrats can't help but lie, can you.


It's a ban at the school, but you know that full well.

And I have no idea why you included the budget cut dodge. I've been pointing that out since you were in diapers and in response to both parties when they pull that ****

But back to banning ideas.



Refusing to fund a thing is not a ban on a thing. Where can that racist Marxist propaganda not be espoused? How many places? One, where government funding is used to spread the filth.
He doesn't get it, but it's simple.

The TEA is responsible for primary and secondary education. The state has authority to oversee all the public school districts in Texas and can determine what is and what is not allowed to be taught at schools they are responsible for. The government deciding what is acceptable for other governmental entities to say, do, teach, prohibit, discuss, allow or whatever is well within their right. Gov't deciding what is to be taught (or not) at gov't schools is done all the time, as it's part of their job.

Now, with that a being said, the TEA has no jurisdiction over private, parochial. If you don't like the ban on CRT, you can send your children to a private school that teaches it. Likewise, in California for instance, the gov't there requires the schools to teach LGBTQ history. If, as a parent, you don't agree with them teaching it, then send your kids to a private school that doesn't.

If the state tried to let's say, prohibit parents who are homeschooling their children from teaching CRT then that would be a problem.

Now, with all of that being said, I think it would be best for the state to allow local school boards (where its members or elected by local citizens and parents) to decide whether or not to allow teaching CRT or LGTBQ for that matter.
Hold On! You moved the goalposts. The OP is about state universities. At least in my opinion that is VERY different than primary and secondary schools. I have a much different perspective on government regulation (preferably at the local level) on primary and secondary schools than universities.
Oh sorry! I'll admit I didn't read the whole thread. My mistake, sorry about that!
Harrison Bergeron
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Rawhide said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Rawhide said:

Canon said:

quash said:

Canon said:

quash said:

Canon said:

Harrison Bergeron said:

Canon said:

quash said:


Government banning ideas. What could go wrong?



Government hasn't and would not be banning ideas. Government would simply cease funding the dissemination of Marxist propaganda and paying those who responsible for its dissemination.

If you'd like to spew your leftist filth (which we all know you desperately do) at a private school, by all means do that. Unless they take public money and then we know you are ok with imposing conditions on those monies as well.
I respectfully disagree. That is what the university is for. I agree that there is a lot of bull**** in universities, but I do not think that is the job of the government but the administration.


When the administration of a government funded school is completely taken over by Marxists, it's perfectly acceptable and good to remove funding for the message they sell that is designed to bring down a free society. The people can't be expected to fund the means of their own enslavement and ultimate destruction.

Removing government funding isn't a prohibition on speech. It's a leveling of the playing field. Also, it's not the engineering and math departments who are concerned. The valuable parts of the university system will remain untouched.


So ban ideas through state action.

You go a long way around with virtue signals like "Marxists" but what you are advocating is for the state to ban an idea.

When you need the power of the state to obtain your goal maybe you should try a different argument.



Why are you lying? A government ceasing to fund a thing as not a ban on a thing. A government failing to increase a budget is also not a 'cut'. But you democrats can't help but lie, can you.


It's a ban at the school, but you know that full well.

And I have no idea why you included the budget cut dodge. I've been pointing that out since you were in diapers and in response to both parties when they pull that ****

But back to banning ideas.



Refusing to fund a thing is not a ban on a thing. Where can that racist Marxist propaganda not be espoused? How many places? One, where government funding is used to spread the filth.
He doesn't get it, but it's simple.

The TEA is responsible for primary and secondary education. The state has authority to oversee all the public school districts in Texas and can determine what is and what is not allowed to be taught at schools they are responsible for. The government deciding what is acceptable for other governmental entities to say, do, teach, prohibit, discuss, allow or whatever is well within their right. Gov't deciding what is to be taught (or not) at gov't schools is done all the time, as it's part of their job.

Now, with that a being said, the TEA has no jurisdiction over private, parochial. If you don't like the ban on CRT, you can send your children to a private school that teaches it. Likewise, in California for instance, the gov't there requires the schools to teach LGBTQ history. If, as a parent, you don't agree with them teaching it, then send your kids to a private school that doesn't.

If the state tried to let's say, prohibit parents who are homeschooling their children from teaching CRT then that would be a problem.

Now, with all of that being said, I think it would be best for the state to allow local school boards (where its members or elected by local citizens and parents) to decide whether or not to allow teaching CRT or LGTBQ for that matter.
Hold On! You moved the goalposts. The OP is about state universities. At least in my opinion that is VERY different than primary and secondary schools. I have a much different perspective on government regulation (preferably at the local level) on primary and secondary schools than universities.
Oh sorry! I'll admit I didn't read the whole thread. My mistake, sorry about that!
No worries. Not like I have not had myriad ignorant posts (not pejorative just misread something and posted by mistake). I agree with you 100% regarding the TEA but not universities.
quash
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Should the state defund the teaching of the Bible? Quran? Principia Discordia?
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
Canon
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quash said:


Should the state defund the teaching of the Bible? Quran? Principia Discordia?


Religious proselytization, like that done by Marxists, is already defunded. This is nothing new.
quash
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Canon said:

quash said:


Should the state defund the teaching of the Bible? Quran? Principia Discordia?


Religious proselytization, like that done by Marxists, is already defunded. This is nothing new.


Not what I asked.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
Canon
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quash said:

Canon said:

quash said:


Should the state defund the teaching of the Bible? Quran? Principia Discordia?


Religious proselytization, like that done by Marxists, is already defunded. This is nothing new.


Not what I asked.



And yet it's the correct answer.
quash
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Canon said:

quash said:

Canon said:

quash said:


Should the state defund the teaching of the Bible? Quran? Principia Discordia?


Religious proselytization, like that done by Marxists, is already defunded. This is nothing new.


Not what I asked.



And yet it's the correct answer.


What time is it?

I have a watch.

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