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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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I was taught God said this world was good. Could have sworn i read that.

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No worries brother, I always stop reading after the first sentence of a book as well.

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Where does God tell us to be cynical?

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This question has already been answered with scripture. Unless you have a different definition of cynical.

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Maybe there is a miscommunication about what cynicism is. Lay out the argument for the Biblical support of "Christian cynicism." I don't think it exists.

---

Cynicism vis-a-vis politics is directed by the Bible, per the verse listed above. Don't put your faith in princes. Elsewhere in genesis, we learn that God cursed the earth…making cynicism about environmentalism guaranteed.

---

How do you define cynicism? Or, to put it another way, what are the traits of a cynical person?

---

Believing or showing the belief that people are motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; skeptical of the motives of others.

"No one is good except God alone" - Jesus

Psalm 14:3 "there is none who does good, not even one."

Psalm 146:3 "Do not trust in princes, In mortal man, in whom there is no salvation."

Jeremiah 17:5 "Thus says the Lord,
"Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind
And makes flesh his strength,
And whose heart turns away from the Lord."

Psalm 118:9 "It is better to take refuge in the Lord
Than to trust in princes."

Isaiah 2:22 "Stop regarding man, whose breath of life is in his nostrils; For why should he be esteemed?"

Isaiah 30:2 "Who proceed down to Egypt
Without consulting Me,
To take refuge in the safety of Pharaoh
And to seek shelter in the shadow of Egypt!"

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Are you married?

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Happily. Have you seen divorce statistics?

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Yes. Zero percent for me, and I hope for you as well.

Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?

---

Your motives, your wife's, my wife's, mine - all of us are selfish and suspect. Even altruism and love have a selfish component. It's the genesis of both acrimonious divorces and vicious nepotism.

---

Altruism, by definition, is selfless, but you didn't quite answer my question: "Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?"

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I answered your question. Do you believe altruism has no major component of selfishness? Be honest now

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Altruism is, by definition, selfless, whether I believe it or not.

There is plenty of debate over whether altruism is even possible, but I think we can safely say that altruism, to the degree it is a real thing, does not have a "major component of selfishness."

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The general definition certainly suggests it is, but that's not what I asked you. You are ignoring the vicious side of the familial relationship to which we like to assign altruism as a given. Nepotism that has led to tribal wars in many parts of the world. Love that incorporates possessiveness that makes the actions done supposedly on behalf of the 'loved on' being largely motivated by the fact that the person acting sees that person as simply an extension of themselves and thus acts selfishly and horribly to others. Is that altruism? We could go on, of course, but you probably get the idea, even if you won't admit it.

Finally, do you disagree with Jesus Christ when He said, "No one is good except God alone"?

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I only asked you about a family relationship to see if you actually put your money where your mouth is, so to speak. Altruism can be directed at total strangers.

I do not disagree with Jesus Christ when he said that.

Do you disagree with Jesus Christ when he said "love your enemies?"

---

My answer to you is simply to quote Jesus; "No one is good except God alone". That's what I believe.

If you don't disagree with Jesus, then you can't really disagree with me. No one is good. Cynicism is therefore justified and should be the baseline for humans. It's the foolish notion that humans are fundamentally good that leads us into attempts at creating earthly utopias that lead to nothing more than dystopian disasters.

We are to love our enemies and do good to those who persecute us. That's a very personal command, as I see it and it's tied to treating others as we want to be treated, because everyone has a fundamental love for themselves.....because we are fundamentally selfish. The command to love here is a command to act in a way (do go to those who persecute you) that appears loving toward our enemies.

How do you personally quantify or identify when you are loving your enemies?

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You still have not answered the question.
Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?"

Possible answers include:
1. I act on the assumption that my wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and I am skeptical of her motives.
Or
2. I do not act on the assumption that my wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and I am not skeptical of her motives.

You could throw in a percentage if you like, but quoting Jesus, and out of context at that, is not an answer to the question.

"If you don't disagree with Jesus, then you can't really disagree with me."
I am going to have to put that on a bumper sticker.

---

Feel free to put all of the complete answers you have already received from me on bumper stickers.

You've done a masterful job ignoring what dismisses your point. Keep it up.

---

Feel free to answer the question.
Then I will be glad to address your misrepresentation of the Master.

---

Your questions, all of them, have been fully and completely answered by me. That you didn't like the answer because it was too complete for your purposes and frustrated your sophomoric attempts at leading questions, doesn't really have any bearing on the completeness of the response.

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The question has not been answered.
As I said, after you answer it, I will be glad to address your misrepresentation of the Master.

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Canon said:

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Canon said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Canon said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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CSIBear said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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I was taught God said this world was good. Could have sworn i read that.

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No worries brother, I always stop reading after the first sentence of a book as well.

---

Where does God tell us to be cynical?

---

This question has already been answered with scripture. Unless you have a different definition of cynical.

---

Maybe there is a miscommunication about what cynicism is. Lay out the argument for the Biblical support of "Christian cynicism." I don't think it exists.

---

Cynicism vis-a-vis politics is directed by the Bible, per the verse listed above. Don't put your faith in princes. Elsewhere in genesis, we learn that God cursed the earth…making cynicism about environmentalism guaranteed.

---

How do you define cynicism? Or, to put it another way, what are the traits of a cynical person?

---

Believing or showing the belief that people are motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; skeptical of the motives of others.

"No one is good except God alone" - Jesus

Psalm 14:3 "there is none who does good, not even one."

Psalm 146:3 "Do not trust in princes, In mortal man, in whom there is no salvation."

Jeremiah 17:5 "Thus says the Lord,
"Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind
And makes flesh his strength,
And whose heart turns away from the Lord."

Psalm 118:9 "It is better to take refuge in the Lord
Than to trust in princes."

Isaiah 2:22 "Stop regarding man, whose breath of life is in his nostrils; For why should he be esteemed?"

Isaiah 30:2 "Who proceed down to Egypt
Without consulting Me,
To take refuge in the safety of Pharaoh
And to seek shelter in the shadow of Egypt!"

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Are you married?

---

Happily. Have you seen divorce statistics?

---

Yes. Zero percent for me, and I hope for you as well.

Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?

---

Your motives, your wife's, my wife's, mine - all of us are selfish and suspect. Even altruism and love have a selfish component. It's the genesis of both acrimonious divorces and vicious nepotism.

---

Altruism, by definition, is selfless, but you didn't quite answer my question: "Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?"

---

I answered your question. Do you believe altruism has no major component of selfishness? Be honest now

---

Altruism is, by definition, selfless, whether I believe it or not.

There is plenty of debate over whether altruism is even possible, but I think we can safely say that altruism, to the degree it is a real thing, does not have a "major component of selfishness."

---

The general definition certainly suggests it is, but that's not what I asked you. You are ignoring the vicious side of the familial relationship to which we like to assign altruism as a given. Nepotism that has led to tribal wars in many parts of the world. Love that incorporates possessiveness that makes the actions done supposedly on behalf of the 'loved on' being largely motivated by the fact that the person acting sees that person as simply an extension of themselves and thus acts selfishly and horribly to others. Is that altruism? We could go on, of course, but you probably get the idea, even if you won't admit it.

Finally, do you disagree with Jesus Christ when He said, "No one is good except God alone"?

---

I only asked you about a family relationship to see if you actually put your money where your mouth is, so to speak. Altruism can be directed at total strangers.

I do not disagree with Jesus Christ when he said that.

Do you disagree with Jesus Christ when he said "love your enemies?"

---

My answer to you is simply to quote Jesus; "No one is good except God alone". That's what I believe.

If you don't disagree with Jesus, then you can't really disagree with me. No one is good. Cynicism is therefore justified and should be the baseline for humans. It's the foolish notion that humans are fundamentally good that leads us into attempts at creating earthly utopias that lead to nothing more than dystopian disasters.

We are to love our enemies and do good to those who persecute us. That's a very personal command, as I see it and it's tied to treating others as we want to be treated, because everyone has a fundamental love for themselves.....because we are fundamentally selfish. The command to love here is a command to act in a way (do go to those who persecute you) that appears loving toward our enemies.

How do you personally quantify or identify when you are loving your enemies?

---

You still have not answered the question.
Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?"

Possible answers include:
1. I act on the assumption that my wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and I am skeptical of her motives.
Or
2. I do not act on the assumption that my wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and I am not skeptical of her motives.

You could throw in a percentage if you like, but quoting Jesus, and out of context at that, is not an answer to the question.

"If you don't disagree with Jesus, then you can't really disagree with me."
I am going to have to put that on a bumper sticker.

---

Feel free to put all of the complete answers you have already received from me on bumper stickers.

You've done a masterful job ignoring what dismisses your point. Keep it up.

---

Feel free to answer the question.
Then I will be glad to address your misrepresentation of the Master.

---

Your questions, all of them, have been fully and completely answered by me. That you didn't like the answer because it was too complete for your purposes and frustrated your sophomoric attempts at leading questions, doesn't really have any bearing on the completeness of the response.

---

Go on…answer him.

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Canon said:

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Canon said:

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Canon said:

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CSIBear said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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I was taught God said this world was good. Could have sworn i read that.

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No worries brother, I always stop reading after the first sentence of a book as well.

---

Where does God tell us to be cynical?

---

This question has already been answered with scripture. Unless you have a different definition of cynical.

---

Maybe there is a miscommunication about what cynicism is. Lay out the argument for the Biblical support of "Christian cynicism." I don't think it exists.

---

Cynicism vis-a-vis politics is directed by the Bible, per the verse listed above. Don't put your faith in princes. Elsewhere in genesis, we learn that God cursed the earth…making cynicism about environmentalism guaranteed.

---

How do you define cynicism? Or, to put it another way, what are the traits of a cynical person?

---

Believing or showing the belief that people are motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; skeptical of the motives of others.

"No one is good except God alone" - Jesus

Psalm 14:3 "there is none who does good, not even one."

Psalm 146:3 "Do not trust in princes, In mortal man, in whom there is no salvation."

Jeremiah 17:5 "Thus says the Lord,
"Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind
And makes flesh his strength,
And whose heart turns away from the Lord."

Psalm 118:9 "It is better to take refuge in the Lord
Than to trust in princes."

Isaiah 2:22 "Stop regarding man, whose breath of life is in his nostrils; For why should he be esteemed?"

Isaiah 30:2 "Who proceed down to Egypt
Without consulting Me,
To take refuge in the safety of Pharaoh
And to seek shelter in the shadow of Egypt!"

---

Are you married?

---

Happily. Have you seen divorce statistics?

---

Yes. Zero percent for me, and I hope for you as well.

Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?

---

Your motives, your wife's, my wife's, mine - all of us are selfish and suspect. Even altruism and love have a selfish component. It's the genesis of both acrimonious divorces and vicious nepotism.

---

Altruism, by definition, is selfless, but you didn't quite answer my question: "Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?"

---

I answered your question. Do you believe altruism has no major component of selfishness? Be honest now

---

Altruism is, by definition, selfless, whether I believe it or not.

There is plenty of debate over whether altruism is even possible, but I think we can safely say that altruism, to the degree it is a real thing, does not have a "major component of selfishness."

---

The general definition certainly suggests it is, but that's not what I asked you. You are ignoring the vicious side of the familial relationship to which we like to assign altruism as a given. Nepotism that has led to tribal wars in many parts of the world. Love that incorporates possessiveness that makes the actions done supposedly on behalf of the 'loved on' being largely motivated by the fact that the person acting sees that person as simply an extension of themselves and thus acts selfishly and horribly to others. Is that altruism? We could go on, of course, but you probably get the idea, even if you won't admit it.

Finally, do you disagree with Jesus Christ when He said, "No one is good except God alone"?

---

I only asked you about a family relationship to see if you actually put your money where your mouth is, so to speak. Altruism can be directed at total strangers.

I do not disagree with Jesus Christ when he said that.

Do you disagree with Jesus Christ when he said "love your enemies?"

---

My answer to you is simply to quote Jesus; "No one is good except God alone". That's what I believe.

If you don't disagree with Jesus, then you can't really disagree with me. No one is good. Cynicism is therefore justified and should be the baseline for humans. It's the foolish notion that humans are fundamentally good that leads us into attempts at creating earthly utopias that lead to nothing more than dystopian disasters.

We are to love our enemies and do good to those who persecute us. That's a very personal command, as I see it and it's tied to treating others as we want to be treated, because everyone has a fundamental love for themselves.....because we are fundamentally selfish. The command to love here is a command to act in a way (do go to those who persecute you) that appears loving toward our enemies.

How do you personally quantify or identify when you are loving your enemies?

---

You still have not answered the question.
Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?"

Possible answers include:
1. I act on the assumption that my wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and I am skeptical of her motives.
Or
2. I do not act on the assumption that my wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and I am not skeptical of her motives.

You could throw in a percentage if you like, but quoting Jesus, and out of context at that, is not an answer to the question.

"If you don't disagree with Jesus, then you can't really disagree with me."
I am going to have to put that on a bumper sticker.

---

Feel free to put all of the complete answers you have already received from me on bumper stickers.

You've done a masterful job ignoring what dismisses your point. Keep it up.

---

Feel free to answer the question.
Then I will be glad to address your misrepresentation of the Master.

---

Your questions, all of them, have been fully and completely answered by me. That you didn't like the answer because it was too complete for your purposes and frustrated your sophomoric attempts at leading questions, doesn't really have any bearing on the completeness of the response.

---

The question has not been answered.
As I said, after you answer it, I will be glad to address your misrepresentation of the Master.

---

Your questions, all of them, have been fully and completely answered by me. That you didn't like the answer because it was too complete for your purposes and frustrated your sophomoric attempts at leading questions, doesn't really have any bearing on the completeness of the response.

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Canon said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Canon said:

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Canon said:

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Canon said:

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Canon said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Canon said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Canon said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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CSIBear said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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I was taught God said this world was good. Could have sworn i read that.

---

No worries brother, I always stop reading after the first sentence of a book as well.

---

Where does God tell us to be cynical?

---

This question has already been answered with scripture. Unless you have a different definition of cynical.

---

Maybe there is a miscommunication about what cynicism is. Lay out the argument for the Biblical support of "Christian cynicism." I don't think it exists.

---

Cynicism vis-a-vis politics is directed by the Bible, per the verse listed above. Don't put your faith in princes. Elsewhere in genesis, we learn that God cursed the earth…making cynicism about environmentalism guaranteed.

---

How do you define cynicism? Or, to put it another way, what are the traits of a cynical person?

---

Believing or showing the belief that people are motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; skeptical of the motives of others.

"No one is good except God alone" - Jesus

Psalm 14:3 "there is none who does good, not even one."

Psalm 146:3 "Do not trust in princes, In mortal man, in whom there is no salvation."

Jeremiah 17:5 "Thus says the Lord,
"Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind
And makes flesh his strength,
And whose heart turns away from the Lord."

Psalm 118:9 "It is better to take refuge in the Lord
Than to trust in princes."

Isaiah 2:22 "Stop regarding man, whose breath of life is in his nostrils; For why should he be esteemed?"

Isaiah 30:2 "Who proceed down to Egypt
Without consulting Me,
To take refuge in the safety of Pharaoh
And to seek shelter in the shadow of Egypt!"

---

Are you married?

---

Happily. Have you seen divorce statistics?

---

Yes. Zero percent for me, and I hope for you as well.

Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?

---

Your motives, your wife's, my wife's, mine - all of us are selfish and suspect. Even altruism and love have a selfish component. It's the genesis of both acrimonious divorces and vicious nepotism.

---

Altruism, by definition, is selfless, but you didn't quite answer my question: "Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?"

---

I answered your question. Do you believe altruism has no major component of selfishness? Be honest now

---

Altruism is, by definition, selfless, whether I believe it or not.

There is plenty of debate over whether altruism is even possible, but I think we can safely say that altruism, to the degree it is a real thing, does not have a "major component of selfishness."

---

The general definition certainly suggests it is, but that's not what I asked you. You are ignoring the vicious side of the familial relationship to which we like to assign altruism as a given. Nepotism that has led to tribal wars in many parts of the world. Love that incorporates possessiveness that makes the actions done supposedly on behalf of the 'loved on' being largely motivated by the fact that the person acting sees that person as simply an extension of themselves and thus acts selfishly and horribly to others. Is that altruism? We could go on, of course, but you probably get the idea, even if you won't admit it.

Finally, do you disagree with Jesus Christ when He said, "No one is good except God alone"?

---

I only asked you about a family relationship to see if you actually put your money where your mouth is, so to speak. Altruism can be directed at total strangers.

I do not disagree with Jesus Christ when he said that.

Do you disagree with Jesus Christ when he said "love your enemies?"

---

My answer to you is simply to quote Jesus; "No one is good except God alone". That's what I believe.

If you don't disagree with Jesus, then you can't really disagree with me. No one is good. Cynicism is therefore justified and should be the baseline for humans. It's the foolish notion that humans are fundamentally good that leads us into attempts at creating earthly utopias that lead to nothing more than dystopian disasters.

We are to love our enemies and do good to those who persecute us. That's a very personal command, as I see it and it's tied to treating others as we want to be treated, because everyone has a fundamental love for themselves.....because we are fundamentally selfish. The command to love here is a command to act in a way (do go to those who persecute you) that appears loving toward our enemies.

How do you personally quantify or identify when you are loving your enemies?

---

You still have not answered the question.
Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?"

Possible answers include:
1. I act on the assumption that my wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and I am skeptical of her motives.
Or
2. I do not act on the assumption that my wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and I am not skeptical of her motives.

You could throw in a percentage if you like, but quoting Jesus, and out of context at that, is not an answer to the question.

"If you don't disagree with Jesus, then you can't really disagree with me."
I am going to have to put that on a bumper sticker.

---

Feel free to put all of the complete answers you have already received from me on bumper stickers.

You've done a masterful job ignoring what dismisses your point. Keep it up.

---

Feel free to answer the question.
Then I will be glad to address your misrepresentation of the Master.

---

Your questions, all of them, have been fully and completely answered by me. That you didn't like the answer because it was too complete for your purposes and frustrated your sophomoric attempts at leading questions, doesn't really have any bearing on the completeness of the response.

---

Why don't you just answer the question?

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Canon said:

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Canon said:

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Canon said:

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Canon said:

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Canon said:

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Canon said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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CSIBear said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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I was taught God said this world was good. Could have sworn i read that.

---

No worries brother, I always stop reading after the first sentence of a book as well.

---

Where does God tell us to be cynical?

---

This question has already been answered with scripture. Unless you have a different definition of cynical.

---

Maybe there is a miscommunication about what cynicism is. Lay out the argument for the Biblical support of "Christian cynicism." I don't think it exists.

---

Cynicism vis-a-vis politics is directed by the Bible, per the verse listed above. Don't put your faith in princes. Elsewhere in genesis, we learn that God cursed the earth…making cynicism about environmentalism guaranteed.

---

How do you define cynicism? Or, to put it another way, what are the traits of a cynical person?

---

Believing or showing the belief that people are motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; skeptical of the motives of others.

"No one is good except God alone" - Jesus

Psalm 14:3 "there is none who does good, not even one."

Psalm 146:3 "Do not trust in princes, In mortal man, in whom there is no salvation."

Jeremiah 17:5 "Thus says the Lord,
"Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind
And makes flesh his strength,
And whose heart turns away from the Lord."

Psalm 118:9 "It is better to take refuge in the Lord
Than to trust in princes."

Isaiah 2:22 "Stop regarding man, whose breath of life is in his nostrils; For why should he be esteemed?"

Isaiah 30:2 "Who proceed down to Egypt
Without consulting Me,
To take refuge in the safety of Pharaoh
And to seek shelter in the shadow of Egypt!"

---

Are you married?

---

Happily. Have you seen divorce statistics?

---

Yes. Zero percent for me, and I hope for you as well.

Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?

---

Your motives, your wife's, my wife's, mine - all of us are selfish and suspect. Even altruism and love have a selfish component. It's the genesis of both acrimonious divorces and vicious nepotism.

---

Altruism, by definition, is selfless, but you didn't quite answer my question: "Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?"

---

I answered your question. Do you believe altruism has no major component of selfishness? Be honest now

---

Altruism is, by definition, selfless, whether I believe it or not.

There is plenty of debate over whether altruism is even possible, but I think we can safely say that altruism, to the degree it is a real thing, does not have a "major component of selfishness."

---

The general definition certainly suggests it is, but that's not what I asked you. You are ignoring the vicious side of the familial relationship to which we like to assign altruism as a given. Nepotism that has led to tribal wars in many parts of the world. Love that incorporates possessiveness that makes the actions done supposedly on behalf of the 'loved on' being largely motivated by the fact that the person acting sees that person as simply an extension of themselves and thus acts selfishly and horribly to others. Is that altruism? We could go on, of course, but you probably get the idea, even if you won't admit it.

Finally, do you disagree with Jesus Christ when He said, "No one is good except God alone"?

---

I only asked you about a family relationship to see if you actually put your money where your mouth is, so to speak. Altruism can be directed at total strangers.

I do not disagree with Jesus Christ when he said that.

Do you disagree with Jesus Christ when he said "love your enemies?"

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My answer to you is simply to quote Jesus; "No one is good except God alone". That's what I believe.

If you don't disagree with Jesus, then you can't really disagree with me. No one is good. Cynicism is therefore justified and should be the baseline for humans. It's the foolish notion that humans are fundamentally good that leads us into attempts at creating earthly utopias that lead to nothing more than dystopian disasters.

We are to love our enemies and do good to those who persecute us. That's a very personal command, as I see it and it's tied to treating others as we want to be treated, because everyone has a fundamental love for themselves.....because we are fundamentally selfish. The command to love here is a command to act in a way (do go to those who persecute you) that appears loving toward our enemies.

How do you personally quantify or identify when you are loving your enemies?

---

You still have not answered the question.
Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?"

Possible answers include:
1. I act on the assumption that my wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and I am skeptical of her motives.
Or
2. I do not act on the assumption that my wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and I am not skeptical of her motives.

You could throw in a percentage if you like, but quoting Jesus, and out of context at that, is not an answer to the question.

"If you don't disagree with Jesus, then you can't really disagree with me."
I am going to have to put that on a bumper sticker.

---

Feel free to put all of the complete answers you have already received from me on bumper stickers.

You've done a masterful job ignoring what dismisses your point. Keep it up.

---

Feel free to answer the question.
Then I will be glad to address your misrepresentation of the Master.

---

Your questions, all of them, have been fully and completely answered by me. That you didn't like the answer because it was too complete for your purposes and frustrated your sophomoric attempts at leading questions, doesn't really have any bearing on the completeness of the response.

---

Why don't you just answer the question?

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It was. Why not try reading?

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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I was taught God said this world was good. Could have sworn i read that.

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No worries brother, I always stop reading after the first sentence of a book as well.

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Where does God tell us to be cynical?

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This question has already been answered with scripture. Unless you have a different definition of cynical.

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Maybe there is a miscommunication about what cynicism is. Lay out the argument for the Biblical support of "Christian cynicism." I don't think it exists.

---

Cynicism vis-a-vis politics is directed by the Bible, per the verse listed above. Don't put your faith in princes. Elsewhere in genesis, we learn that God cursed the earth…making cynicism about environmentalism guaranteed.

---

How do you define cynicism? Or, to put it another way, what are the traits of a cynical person?

---

Believing or showing the belief that people are motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; skeptical of the motives of others.

"No one is good except God alone" - Jesus

Psalm 14:3 "there is none who does good, not even one."

Psalm 146:3 "Do not trust in princes, In mortal man, in whom there is no salvation."

Jeremiah 17:5 "Thus says the Lord,
"Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind
And makes flesh his strength,
And whose heart turns away from the Lord."

Psalm 118:9 "It is better to take refuge in the Lord
Than to trust in princes."

Isaiah 2:22 "Stop regarding man, whose breath of life is in his nostrils; For why should he be esteemed?"

Isaiah 30:2 "Who proceed down to Egypt
Without consulting Me,
To take refuge in the safety of Pharaoh
And to seek shelter in the shadow of Egypt!"

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Are you married?

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Happily. Have you seen divorce statistics?

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Yes. Zero percent for me, and I hope for you as well.

Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?

---

Your motives, your wife's, my wife's, mine - all of us are selfish and suspect. Even altruism and love have a selfish component. It's the genesis of both acrimonious divorces and vicious nepotism.

---

Altruism, by definition, is selfless, but you didn't quite answer my question: "Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?"

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I answered your question. Do you believe altruism has no major component of selfishness? Be honest now

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Altruism is, by definition, selfless, whether I believe it or not.

There is plenty of debate over whether altruism is even possible, but I think we can safely say that altruism, to the degree it is a real thing, does not have a "major component of selfishness."

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The general definition certainly suggests it is, but that's not what I asked you. You are ignoring the vicious side of the familial relationship to which we like to assign altruism as a given. Nepotism that has led to tribal wars in many parts of the world. Love that incorporates possessiveness that makes the actions done supposedly on behalf of the 'loved on' being largely motivated by the fact that the person acting sees that person as simply an extension of themselves and thus acts selfishly and horribly to others. Is that altruism? We could go on, of course, but you probably get the idea, even if you won't admit it.

Finally, do you disagree with Jesus Christ when He said, "No one is good except God alone"?

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I only asked you about a family relationship to see if you actually put your money where your mouth is, so to speak. Altruism can be directed at total strangers.

I do not disagree with Jesus Christ when he said that.

Do you disagree with Jesus Christ when he said "love your enemies?"

---

My answer to you is simply to quote Jesus; "No one is good except God alone". That's what I believe.

If you don't disagree with Jesus, then you can't really disagree with me. No one is good. Cynicism is therefore justified and should be the baseline for humans. It's the foolish notion that humans are fundamentally good that leads us into attempts at creating earthly utopias that lead to nothing more than dystopian disasters.

We are to love our enemies and do good to those who persecute us. That's a very personal command, as I see it and it's tied to treating others as we want to be treated, because everyone has a fundamental love for themselves.....because we are fundamentally selfish. The command to love here is a command to act in a way (do go to those who persecute you) that appears loving toward our enemies.

How do you personally quantify or identify when you are loving your enemies?

---

You still have not answered the question.
Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?"

Possible answers include:
1. I act on the assumption that my wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and I am skeptical of her motives.
Or
2. I do not act on the assumption that my wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and I am not skeptical of her motives.

You could throw in a percentage if you like, but quoting Jesus, and out of context at that, is not an answer to the question.

"If you don't disagree with Jesus, then you can't really disagree with me."
I am going to have to put that on a bumper sticker.

---

Feel free to put all of the complete answers you have already received from me on bumper stickers.

You've done a masterful job ignoring what dismisses your point. Keep it up.

---

Feel free to answer the question.
Then I will be glad to address your misrepresentation of the Master.

---

Your questions, all of them, have been fully and completely answered by me. That you didn't like the answer because it was too complete for your purposes and frustrated your sophomoric attempts at leading questions, doesn't really have any bearing on the completeness of the response.

---

Why don't you just answer the question?

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It was. Why not try reading?

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The question has to do with how you behave towards your wife. At no point in any of your responses have you even approached an answer.

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Osodecentx said:

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Canon said:

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Canon said:

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Canon said:

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Canon said:

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Canon said:

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Canon said:

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Canon said:

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Canon said:

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Canon said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Canon said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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CSIBear said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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I was taught God said this world was good. Could have sworn i read that.

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No worries brother, I always stop reading after the first sentence of a book as well.

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Where does God tell us to be cynical?

---

This question has already been answered with scripture. Unless you have a different definition of cynical.

---

Maybe there is a miscommunication about what cynicism is. Lay out the argument for the Biblical support of "Christian cynicism." I don't think it exists.

---

Cynicism vis-a-vis politics is directed by the Bible, per the verse listed above. Don't put your faith in princes. Elsewhere in genesis, we learn that God cursed the earth…making cynicism about environmentalism guaranteed.

---

How do you define cynicism? Or, to put it another way, what are the traits of a cynical person?

---

Believing or showing the belief that people are motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; skeptical of the motives of others.

"No one is good except God alone" - Jesus

Psalm 14:3 "there is none who does good, not even one."

Psalm 146:3 "Do not trust in princes, In mortal man, in whom there is no salvation."

Jeremiah 17:5 "Thus says the Lord,
"Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind
And makes flesh his strength,
And whose heart turns away from the Lord."

Psalm 118:9 "It is better to take refuge in the Lord
Than to trust in princes."

Isaiah 2:22 "Stop regarding man, whose breath of life is in his nostrils; For why should he be esteemed?"

Isaiah 30:2 "Who proceed down to Egypt
Without consulting Me,
To take refuge in the safety of Pharaoh
And to seek shelter in the shadow of Egypt!"

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Are you married?

---

Happily. Have you seen divorce statistics?

---

Yes. Zero percent for me, and I hope for you as well.

Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?

---

Your motives, your wife's, my wife's, mine - all of us are selfish and suspect. Even altruism and love have a selfish component. It's the genesis of both acrimonious divorces and vicious nepotism.

---

Altruism, by definition, is selfless, but you didn't quite answer my question: "Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?"

---

I answered your question. Do you believe altruism has no major component of selfishness? Be honest now

---

Altruism is, by definition, selfless, whether I believe it or not.

There is plenty of debate over whether altruism is even possible, but I think we can safely say that altruism, to the degree it is a real thing, does not have a "major component of selfishness."

---

The general definition certainly suggests it is, but that's not what I asked you. You are ignoring the vicious side of the familial relationship to which we like to assign altruism as a given. Nepotism that has led to tribal wars in many parts of the world. Love that incorporates possessiveness that makes the actions done supposedly on behalf of the 'loved on' being largely motivated by the fact that the person acting sees that person as simply an extension of themselves and thus acts selfishly and horribly to others. Is that altruism? We could go on, of course, but you probably get the idea, even if you won't admit it.

Finally, do you disagree with Jesus Christ when He said, "No one is good except God alone"?

---

I only asked you about a family relationship to see if you actually put your money where your mouth is, so to speak. Altruism can be directed at total strangers.

I do not disagree with Jesus Christ when he said that.

Do you disagree with Jesus Christ when he said "love your enemies?"

---

My answer to you is simply to quote Jesus; "No one is good except God alone". That's what I believe.

If you don't disagree with Jesus, then you can't really disagree with me. No one is good. Cynicism is therefore justified and should be the baseline for humans. It's the foolish notion that humans are fundamentally good that leads us into attempts at creating earthly utopias that lead to nothing more than dystopian disasters.

We are to love our enemies and do good to those who persecute us. That's a very personal command, as I see it and it's tied to treating others as we want to be treated, because everyone has a fundamental love for themselves.....because we are fundamentally selfish. The command to love here is a command to act in a way (do go to those who persecute you) that appears loving toward our enemies.

How do you personally quantify or identify when you are loving your enemies?

---

You still have not answered the question.
Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?"

Possible answers include:
1. I act on the assumption that my wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and I am skeptical of her motives.
Or
2. I do not act on the assumption that my wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and I am not skeptical of her motives.

You could throw in a percentage if you like, but quoting Jesus, and out of context at that, is not an answer to the question.

"If you don't disagree with Jesus, then you can't really disagree with me."
I am going to have to put that on a bumper sticker.

---

Feel free to put all of the complete answers you have already received from me on bumper stickers.

You've done a masterful job ignoring what dismisses your point. Keep it up.

---

Feel free to answer the question.
Then I will be glad to address your misrepresentation of the Master.

---

Your questions, all of them, have been fully and completely answered by me. That you didn't like the answer because it was too complete for your purposes and frustrated your sophomoric attempts at leading questions, doesn't really have any bearing on the completeness of the response.

---

Why don't you just answer the question?

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It was. Why not try reading?

---

The question has to do with how you behave towards your wife. At no point in any of your responses have you even approached giving an answer to that question.

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No. The question was about my assessment of her motivations. Asked and answered.

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Canon said:

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Osodecentx said:

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Canon said:

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Canon said:

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Canon said:

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Canon said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Canon said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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CSIBear said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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I was taught God said this world was good. Could have sworn i read that.

---

No worries brother, I always stop reading after the first sentence of a book as well.

---

Where does God tell us to be cynical?

---

This question has already been answered with scripture. Unless you have a different definition of cynical.

---

Maybe there is a miscommunication about what cynicism is. Lay out the argument for the Biblical support of "Christian cynicism." I don't think it exists.

---

Cynicism vis-a-vis politics is directed by the Bible, per the verse listed above. Don't put your faith in princes. Elsewhere in genesis, we learn that God cursed the earth…making cynicism about environmentalism guaranteed.

---

How do you define cynicism? Or, to put it another way, what are the traits of a cynical person?

---

Believing or showing the belief that people are motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; skeptical of the motives of others.

"No one is good except God alone" - Jesus

Psalm 14:3 "there is none who does good, not even one."

Psalm 146:3 "Do not trust in princes, In mortal man, in whom there is no salvation."

Jeremiah 17:5 "Thus says the Lord,
"Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind
And makes flesh his strength,
And whose heart turns away from the Lord."

Psalm 118:9 "It is better to take refuge in the Lord
Than to trust in princes."

Isaiah 2:22 "Stop regarding man, whose breath of life is in his nostrils; For why should he be esteemed?"

Isaiah 30:2 "Who proceed down to Egypt
Without consulting Me,
To take refuge in the safety of Pharaoh
And to seek shelter in the shadow of Egypt!"

---

Are you married?

---

Happily. Have you seen divorce statistics?

---

Yes. Zero percent for me, and I hope for you as well.

Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?

---

Your motives, your wife's, my wife's, mine - all of us are selfish and suspect. Even altruism and love have a selfish component. It's the genesis of both acrimonious divorces and vicious nepotism.

---

Altruism, by definition, is selfless, but you didn't quite answer my question: "Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?"

---

I answered your question. Do you believe altruism has no major component of selfishness? Be honest now

---

Altruism is, by definition, selfless, whether I believe it or not.

There is plenty of debate over whether altruism is even possible, but I think we can safely say that altruism, to the degree it is a real thing, does not have a "major component of selfishness."

---

The general definition certainly suggests it is, but that's not what I asked you. You are ignoring the vicious side of the familial relationship to which we like to assign altruism as a given. Nepotism that has led to tribal wars in many parts of the world. Love that incorporates possessiveness that makes the actions done supposedly on behalf of the 'loved on' being largely motivated by the fact that the person acting sees that person as simply an extension of themselves and thus acts selfishly and horribly to others. Is that altruism? We could go on, of course, but you probably get the idea, even if you won't admit it.

Finally, do you disagree with Jesus Christ when He said, "No one is good except God alone"?

---

I only asked you about a family relationship to see if you actually put your money where your mouth is, so to speak. Altruism can be directed at total strangers.

I do not disagree with Jesus Christ when he said that.

Do you disagree with Jesus Christ when he said "love your enemies?"

---

My answer to you is simply to quote Jesus; "No one is good except God alone". That's what I believe.

If you don't disagree with Jesus, then you can't really disagree with me. No one is good. Cynicism is therefore justified and should be the baseline for humans. It's the foolish notion that humans are fundamentally good that leads us into attempts at creating earthly utopias that lead to nothing more than dystopian disasters.

We are to love our enemies and do good to those who persecute us. That's a very personal command, as I see it and it's tied to treating others as we want to be treated, because everyone has a fundamental love for themselves.....because we are fundamentally selfish. The command to love here is a command to act in a way (do go to those who persecute you) that appears loving toward our enemies.

How do you personally quantify or identify when you are loving your enemies?

---

You still have not answered the question.
Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?"

Possible answers include:
1. I act on the assumption that my wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and I am skeptical of her motives.
Or
2. I do not act on the assumption that my wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and I am not skeptical of her motives.

You could throw in a percentage if you like, but quoting Jesus, and out of context at that, is not an answer to the question.

"If you don't disagree with Jesus, then you can't really disagree with me."
I am going to have to put that on a bumper sticker.

---

Feel free to put all of the complete answers you have already received from me on bumper stickers.

You've done a masterful job ignoring what dismisses your point. Keep it up.

---

Feel free to answer the question.
Then I will be glad to address your misrepresentation of the Master.

---

Your questions, all of them, have been fully and completely answered by me. That you didn't like the answer because it was too complete for your purposes and frustrated your sophomoric attempts at leading questions, doesn't really have any bearing on the completeness of the response.

---

Why don't you just answer the question?

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It was. Why not try reading?

---

The question has to do with how you behave towards your wife. At no point in any of your responses have you even approached giving an answer to that question.

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No. The question was about my assessment of her motivations. Asked and answered.

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Nope
Asked but not answered

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Osodecentx said:

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Canon said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Canon said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Canon said:

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Canon said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Canon said:

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Canon said:

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Canon said:

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Canon said:

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Canon said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Canon said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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CSIBear said:

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Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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I was taught God said this world was good. Could have sworn i read that.

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No worries brother, I always stop reading after the first sentence of a book as well.

---

Where does God tell us to be cynical?

---

This question has already been answered with scripture. Unless you have a different definition of cynical.

---

Maybe there is a miscommunication about what cynicism is. Lay out the argument for the Biblical support of "Christian cynicism." I don't think it exists.

---

Cynicism vis-a-vis politics is directed by the Bible, per the verse listed above. Don't put your faith in princes. Elsewhere in genesis, we learn that God cursed the earth%85making cynicism about environmentalism guaranteed.

---

How do you define cynicism? Or, to put it another way, what are the traits of a cynical person?

---

Believing or showing the belief that people are motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; skeptical of the motives of others.

"No one is good except God alone" - Jesus

Psalm 14:3 "there is none who does good, not even one."

Psalm 146:3 "Do not trust in princes, In mortal man, in whom there is no salvation."

Jeremiah 17:5 "Thus says the Lord,
"Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind
And makes flesh his strength,
And whose heart turns away from the Lord."

Psalm 118:9 "It is better to take refuge in the Lord
Than to trust in princes."

Isaiah 2:22 "Stop regarding man, whose breath of life is in his nostrils; For why should he be esteemed?"

Isaiah 30:2 "Who proceed down to Egypt
Without consulting Me,
To take refuge in the safety of Pharaoh
And to seek shelter in the shadow of Egypt!"

---

Are you married?

---

Happily. Have you seen divorce statistics?

---

Yes. Zero percent for me, and I hope for you as well.

Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?

---

Your motives, your wife's, my wife's, mine - all of us are selfish and suspect. Even altruism and love have a selfish component. It's the genesis of both acrimonious divorces and vicious nepotism.

---

Altruism, by definition, is selfless, but you didn't quite answer my question: "Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?"

---

I answered your question. Do you believe altruism has no major component of selfishness? Be honest now

---

Altruism is, by definition, selfless, whether I believe it or not.

There is plenty of debate over whether altruism is even possible, but I think we can safely say that altruism, to the degree it is a real thing, does not have a "major component of selfishness."

---

The general definition certainly suggests it is, but that's not what I asked you. You are ignoring the vicious side of the familial relationship to which we like to assign altruism as a given. Nepotism that has led to tribal wars in many parts of the world. Love that incorporates possessiveness that makes the actions done supposedly on behalf of the 'loved on' being largely motivated by the fact that the person acting sees that person as simply an extension of themselves and thus acts selfishly and horribly to others. Is that altruism? We could go on, of course, but you probably get the idea, even if you won't admit it.

Finally, do you disagree with Jesus Christ when He said, "No one is good except God alone"?

---

I only asked you about a family relationship to see if you actually put your money where your mouth is, so to speak. Altruism can be directed at total strangers.

I do not disagree with Jesus Christ when he said that.

Do you disagree with Jesus Christ when he said "love your enemies?"

---

My answer to you is simply to quote Jesus; "No one is good except God alone". That's what I believe.

If you don't disagree with Jesus, then you can't really disagree with me. No one is good. Cynicism is therefore justified and should be the baseline for humans. It's the foolish notion that humans are fundamentally good that leads us into attempts at creating earthly utopias that lead to nothing more than dystopian disasters.

We are to love our enemies and do good to those who persecute us. That's a very personal command, as I see it and it's tied to treating others as we want to be treated, because everyone has a fundamental love for themselves.....because we are fundamentally selfish. The command to love here is a command to act in a way (do go to those who persecute you) that appears loving toward our enemies.

How do you personally quantify or identify when you are loving your enemies?

---

You still have not answered the question.
Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?"

Possible answers include:
1. I act on the assumption that my wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and I am skeptical of her motives.
Or
2. I do not act on the assumption that my wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and I am not skeptical of her motives.

You could throw in a percentage if you like, but quoting Jesus, and out of context at that, is not an answer to the question.

"If you don't disagree with Jesus, then you can't really disagree with me."
I am going to have to put that on a bumper sticker.

---

Feel free to put all of the complete answers you have already received from me on bumper stickers.

You've done a masterful job ignoring what dismisses your point. Keep it up.

---

Feel free to answer the question.
Then I will be glad to address your misrepresentation of the Master.

---

Your questions, all of them, have been fully and completely answered by me. That you didn't like the answer because it was too complete for your purposes and frustrated your sophomoric attempts at leading questions, doesn't really have any bearing on the completeness of the response.

---

Why don't you just answer the question?

---

It was. Why not try reading?

---

The question has to do with how you behave towards your wife. At no point in any of your responses have you even approached giving an answer to that question.

---

No. The question was about my assessment of her motivations. Asked and answered.

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The key word is "chiefly," Chief. But you knew that.

Yes or no?

The question was not only about your assessment of your wife's motivations. See the bolded text below. Asked, not answered.

Do you believe and act on the assumption that your wife is motivated chiefly by base or selfish concerns; and are you skeptical of her motives?

The White House Press Secretary has signed an MSNBC hosting deal while still at her job and is out doing a media tour and zero journalists have a problem with this. https://t.co/JpUR0uA0ge

— Stephen L. Miller (@redsteeze) April 15, 2022

Jen Psaki, who has lined up a MSNBC gig, lashes out at rival network, while getting paid by taxpayers https://t.co/jvSTDjvqXt

— Charlie Spiering (@charliespiering) April 15, 2022

SOURCE(S): "Brian Stelter's days are numbered with the network." Discovery management "very much considers him a Zucker henchmen and embarrassment" and believes he is "a negative partisan lighting rod and distraction going forward" /more to come.

— Jon Nicosia (@NewsPolitics) April 15, 2022

Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:

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I was taught God said this world was good. Could have sworn i read that.

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Depends on context. God made a good world, but a lot has been done to poison it.

Personally, I think 95%+ of anyone who worked for a media network will be in real trouble on Judgment Day.

Like most of us.

“The launch of CNN+ has not been as successful as we at McKinsey & Co forecast. We predicted a larger initial sign-on from subscribers eager to get a closer and more personal look at CNN superstars like Don Lemon…” from @rcbl https://t.co/Rdmq2zzWTr

— Kyle Smith (@rkylesmith) April 16, 2022

SCOOP: CNN+ looks doomed.

Warner Bros. Discovery has suspended all external marketing spend for CNN+ and has laid off CNN's longtime CFO as it weighs what to do with it moving forward. https://t.co/3s9LRXImDT

— Axios (@axios) April 19, 2022

The new executive editor of the New York Times poses for a profile in @NYMag: https://t.co/EzwEZd5JEX pic.twitter.com/lALQzrljxH

— Byron York (@ByronYork) April 20, 2022

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The new executive editor of the New York Times poses for a profile in @NYMag: https://t.co/EzwEZd5JEX pic.twitter.com/lALQzrljxH

— Byron York (@ByronYork) April 20, 2022

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Straight white guy exerting privilege?

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The new executive editor of the New York Times poses for a profile in @NYMag: https://t.co/EzwEZd5JEX pic.twitter.com/lALQzrljxH

— Byron York (@ByronYork) April 20, 2022

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"CNN Bans Chairs as 'Privileged Seating' "

Cobretti said:

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The new executive editor of the New York Times poses for a profile in @NYMag: https://t.co/EzwEZd5JEX pic.twitter.com/lALQzrljxH

— Byron York (@ByronYork) April 20, 2022

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At least in the pictures he's dressed and you can't see the rug burn.

Breaking: CNN+ is being shut down on April 30. This might be the most spectacular failure we’ve seen in media history. And that ain’t hyperbole. $300 million spent for less than 30 days of existence.

— Joe Concha (@JoeConchaTV) April 21, 2022

pic.twitter.com/f2uMDY9ZkD

— Greg Price (@greg_price11) April 21, 2022

https://www.facebook.com/100068812526352/posts/308265011477247/?d=n

Why the hell would CNN believe they can get people to pay extra for crap that they don't watch for free? Seriously, don't their ratings swirl around the toilet rim - always?

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I thought this would be an interesting exercise to see where folks stand on the current state cable news as both sides are certainly taken to task here. Unfortunately, I spend entirely too much time watching all that crap just to make sense of it all. So, let's drill down host and shows in the big 3. Fox, CNN, MSNBC , CNBC, and Fox Business (as they float between biz and current events), not on networks as we have a general sense of their proclivities. I'll start.

Fox/Fox News
Like- Brett Baier (balanced), Bill Hemmer and Dana Perino, Martha McCallum, Neil Cavuto (love that guy)
Dislike - Hannity (worst offender), Tucker Carlson (close second), Jesse Watters, Greg Outfield (just terrible), Judge Janine (lost the SNL parody...she's a shill) Laura Ingram (nuff said), Stewart Barney, Charles Payne, Liz Clayton is fine, but tries to hard.

CNN
Like - Alison Camorata, Anderson Cooper (professional), Wolf (he delivers the news and no commentary ) Hala Gorani, CNN International (She is the best on CNN and it aint close) Christian Amanpour (very professional)
Dislike - Erin Burnet (met her once. really high opinion of herself) Don Lemmon (agenda, not gay either), Dana Bash, Gloria Borger

MSNBC/CNBC -

Like - Shep Smith (straight up news)
Dislike - Rachel Maddow, Chris Hayes, Joy Reid (all the same and terribly biased). Morning Joe Crew...Joe is ok, Mika..nah. Willie -Like him. He seems straight up and works his ass off. Not really a fan most folks here as it just as biased as fox. CNBC- I watch it most of all during the day. Becky Quick is awesome as I've had a beer with her. Joe Curnan, I like, Andrew, I also like. Hot and cold on Cramer.

not a comprehensive list, but it would be an interesting exercise.

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I don't think Brett Baier is balanced. That was Chris Wallace, and he left Fox b/c he could no longer in good conscience work there. Now his new gig has crashed with a resouncing thud. Stay tuned. To something.

I don't watch any of these channels--still working more than full time and since the pandemic, I've stuck with PBS Newshour on the nights when I can watch TV news.

But agree with your other assessments. I like Shep Smith a lot. He stands out as the only Fox reporter who called out the Bush Admin for torturing people. There's a worthwhile movie streaming about that--The Mauritanian. I highly recommend it.

I tune out of all Fox channels and MSNBC completely, except on election nights, when Fox has good coverage. I'll never forget Fox correctly calling the 2020 election for Biden. Surprised some folks on this board still watch Fox given that rare outburst of truth.

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Why the hell would CNN believe they can get people to pay extra for crap that they don't watch for free? Seriously, don't their ratings swirl around the toilet rim - always?

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"It is too early to determine if Kevin Steele's Baylor tenure was a success or failure."

"It's too early to know if this product, if this service was a success or a failure," Stelter desperately tried to rationalize the implosion of CNN+. And he chided the "haters." pic.twitter.com/vCFR3Q7dT4

— Nicholas Fondacaro (@NickFondacaro) April 22, 2022

I'd like to thank the 14 subscribers of CNN+, half of which are my family members.

"Going rogue," Stelter insists CNN+ "is a worthy venture."
And he praises the subscribers they don't have. pic.twitter.com/W1TSqYJx6W

— Nicholas Fondacaro (@NickFondacaro) April 22, 2022

CNN will move Chris Wallace to HBO Max.https://t.co/l1YAJLroMg

— OutKick (@Outkick) May 5, 2022

Yikes! #SymoneSanders' new #MSNBC show didn't live up to the hype during the debut! See the extremely low viewer rating here: #RadarExclusivehttps://t.co/iHzC9u5d6c

— Radar Online (@radar_online) May 9, 2022

See the problem when you have a press secretary who talks to a group of people who all want to appear on her show?

— Stephen L. Miller (@redsteeze) May 12, 2022

A 2 a.m. Hannity rerun beat every CNN prime time show. Lmfao. https://t.co/plR0dmCxdj

— Dr. John Ocasio-Nolte (@NolteNC) May 16, 2022

🚨 SCOOP @sarafischer @axios:

CNN's Chris Licht scrutinizes talent for partisan tone ... monitoring anchors including Jim @Acosta, @brianstelter to see if they can comport w new style — no interviews that look like stunts

Those who can't may get canned https://t.co/i01vTgZ4Op

— Mike Allen (@mikeallen) June 7, 2022

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🚨 SCOOP @sarafischer @axios:

CNN's Chris Licht scrutinizes talent for partisan tone ... monitoring anchors including Jim @Acosta, @brianstelter to see if they can comport w new style — no interviews that look like stunts

Those who can't may get canned https://t.co/i01vTgZ4Op

— Mike Allen (@mikeallen) June 7, 2022

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This is either a play for public opinion or an effort about 10-15 years overdue

It's weird how everyone with an in on CNN seems to keep acknowledging but not saying outright what we've always said about Acosta.

— Stephen L. Miller (@redsteeze) June 15, 2022

SOURCE: Stelter is "down to weeks if not days" left at CNN. They go on "He is everything that reminds the new owners of the Zucker era they desperately want to get past" - More to come.

— Jon Nicosia (@NewsPolitics) June 15, 2022

Americans' confidence in newspapers and television news has plummeted to an all-time low, according to the latest annual Gallup survey of trust in U.S. institutions. https://t.co/kIegfyuPBX

— Axios (@axios) July 8, 2022