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Yeah thats Bull**** and you know it, what "crimes" do you think Democrats have committed that the glorious, innocent Republicans would never stoop to?

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Democrats sic'ed the IRS on just under 500 conservative groups that wanted licensing to fundraise across the country during an election cycle. Republicans have never done that. Democrats sic'ed the FBI on a presidential political opponent based on fabricated evidence from the democrat candidate's campaign. Republicans have never done that. Should I go on or are the major ones not enough?

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Fk'ed a Chinese spy and retains seat on Intel committee.
Quid pro quo with Ukraine (an actual one) and is now POTUS.
Facilitated son's cash grab for influence in China and Ukraine and is now POTUS.
Repeatedly WILDLY lied and plagiarized (still does) and is now POTUS.
Digitally raped staffer and is now POTUS.
Killed girl in chappaquiddick and became 'lion of the senate'
Proposed deal with soviets to work against Ronald Reagan and became 'lion of the senate'
Collaborated with the Vietcong and became a senator and secstate.
Long time senator employed long time chauffeur who was a Chinese spy. She's still a senator and remains on the Senate Intelligence Committee. SSCI
Sucked off Willy Brown's willey to get paid make work positions and get into politics. Now VPOTUS.
Stole valor claiming he served in Vietnam. Now senator from Connecticut. Also started dating his wife when he was 31 and she was 16. Still senator.

Just a few…

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The fact you can type these two in particular, bearing in mind who the previous President was is utterly hilarious

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The fact you conflate mouthy hyperbole with straight up lies about historically verifiable events and ignore the plagiarism is utterly hilarious.

But here's a VERY non-exhaustive list of his absurd lies…not exaggerations…lies.

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and if i had said Biden was a straight shooter, your lovely little list might have a point, i didnt, im pointing out that the President before him was a far more prolific liar than Biden ever will/could be, this isnt Hyperbole, its a verifiable fact

heres just a few easily verifiable lies:

He Lied when he said It didn't rain during his inauguration
He lied about saying the head of the Boy Scouts of America called him to say that his speech to them was "the greatest speech that was ever made to them,"
He lied about saying that Ilhan Omar had openly supported Al Qaeda
He lied about knowing knowing about his lawyer paying off Stormy Daniels
He lied about noise from Wind Turbines causing Cancer
He lied about his "amazing" new Health Care plan that was always just 2 weeks away
He lied about being named Michigans Man of the Year
He lied about having won the 2020 election
He lied about Obama not being born in America

and many thousands more

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Fk'ed a Chinese spy and retains seat on Intel committee.
Quid pro quo with Ukraine (an actual one) and is now POTUS.
Facilitated son's cash grab for influence in China and Ukraine and is now POTUS.
Repeatedly WILDLY lied and plagiarized (still does) and is now POTUS.
Digitally raped staffer and is now POTUS.
Killed girl in chappaquiddick and became 'lion of the senate'
Proposed deal with soviets to work against Ronald Reagan and became 'lion of the senate'
Collaborated with the Vietcong and became a senator and secstate.
Long time senator employed long time chauffeur who was a Chinese spy. She's still a senator and remains on the Senate Intelligence Committee. SSCI
Sucked off Willy Brown's willey to get paid make work positions and get into politics. Now VPOTUS.
Stole valor claiming he served in Vietnam. Now senator from Connecticut. Also started dating his wife when he was 31 and she was 16. Still senator.

Just a few…

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The fact you can type these two in particular, bearing in mind who the previous President was is utterly hilarious

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Allegations versus facts. Democrats actually commit a crime and justify it by pointing at what republicans have been accused of doing...by democrats...

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wait, where is it a fact that Biden digitally raped the woman who made the allegation? where is it a fact that Kamala Harris slept her way to VPOTUS? or in your fever dreams, do you just assume any allegation a Democrat is automatically Fact and any allegation against a Republican is automatically false?

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So you don't know about Willie Brown, that's obvious. Kamala did, in fact, sleep her way into power. This is not mere allegation, it's a well known fact. Okay, well known to people living stateside, I can't speak for what you're seeing. Can you tell me the last time Republicans sent the fbi after a presidential candidate political opponent based on lies made up by a Republican presidential candidate? Can you tell me the last time a Republican administration sent the fbi to raid a democrat former president and presidential candidate political opponent's home?

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By all accounts, Harris was already a Deputy District Attorney before she met Brown and at most, he appointed her to a couple of Commission posts, which may have been because she was dating him (lets, for the sake of argument, assume it was entirely because of that).

She stopped dating him in 1995, 3 years before she got promoted to Assistant District Attorny

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That means she graduated law school and was working essentially an entry level prosecutor job. Go eat your fish n Chips and shut up.

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Im well aware of what it is, none of what you are saying is refuting anything ive said, but keep on trucking

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Willie is pretty much on record if you really cared to look.

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You really learn to read properly, i didnt say they didnt date, im even willing to concede that whilst they were dating, he probably helped her out professionally, but they only dated for 2 years

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This is hilarious too. You admit she was a home wrecker and you admit you don't care, while holding moral standards to GOP candidates you clearly don't dare hold to democrats. Your very posts are proof of the double standard.

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when someone has been separated from their wife for over a decade, I'm not sure how she could have been a home wrecker

I want Heschel to vote with Mitch, not give spiritual advice or teach me life lessons

He made mistakes, given the choices, I'd vote for him

I won't vote for Democrats but I do wish some of my fellow conservatives here would have some balls and hold Republican candidates/politicians to account. Have some integrity in your vote.

Walker seems like a nut that has lived in direct contradiction to how he claims he'll vote. If I lived in Georgia, I'd sit this one out.

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I won't vote for Democrats but I do wish some of my fellow conservatives here would have some balls and hold Republican candidates/politicians to account. Have some integrity in your vote.

Walker seems like a nut that has lived in direct contradiction to how he claims he'll vote. If I lived in Georgia, I'd sit this one out.

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I will hold Republicans to account for how they vote and legislate and that is all. I care ZERO for how they live their personal lives. Everyone is a hypocrite, including you, your kids and you sainted dead grandmother. It's completely irrelevant.

I will from here forward only vote for policy wins. If we don't win, nothing matters.

So you do not hold leaders to any moral principles?

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I won't vote for Democrats but I do wish some of my fellow conservatives here would have some balls and hold Republican candidates/politicians to account. Have some integrity in your vote.

Walker seems like a nut that has lived in direct contradiction to how he claims he'll vote. If I lived in Georgia, I'd sit this one out.

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I will hold Republicans to account for how they vote and legislate and that is all. I care ZERO for how they live their personal lives. Everyone is a hypocrite, including you, your kids and you sainted dead grandmother. It's completely irrelevant.

I will from here forward only vote for policy wins. If we don't win, nothing matters.

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99% of the time ….I agree with this attitude.

But not involving Donald Trump.

His behavior after the results of the 2020 election was reprehensible and ultimately damaging to our nation.

Republicans have at least a dozen viable alternatives to choose from for their party's 2024 presidential nominee. They need to pick any of them over the likes of the old orange guy .

He's a rotten candidate, and he never should have been nominated. Now that he's nominated, I have a choice between Walker, who at least will vote in favor of things I like and not promote things I hate, or Warnock, who will vote for everything I hate consistently.

As if Christians are prohibited from practicing real politik…

NOW, if you were to offer this criticism in the primary process, I would say that it is totally valid. Unfortunately, the left has basically given up that moral position by consistently seeking to support candidates like Walker in the Republican primaries because they think they'll be easier to defeat.

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I want Heschel to vote with Mitch, not give spiritual advice or teach me life lessons

He made mistakes, given the choices, I'd vote for him

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Warnock's favorability rating has dipped to 40 percent, a 5-point decrease since the campaign's previous poll taken 10 days ago, prior to the debate. The portion of respondents who view Warnock unfavorably has also increased 3 points, to 47 percent.

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The findings come as Warnock has faced increased scrutiny over his church-owned apartment complex's attempts to evict low-income residents, which was first reported earlier this month by the Free Beacon.

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Warnock has also been hit with a deluge of negative ads highlighting his ex-wife's accusations that he tried to run her over with a car.

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Not going to go into the he said she said part of Warnocks issues, but evicting destitute people over next to nothing is really bad.

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The National Legal and Policy Center alleged Ebenezer Baptist Church tried to hide its 99% ownership of Columbia Towers at MLK Village in Atlanta, an apartment building under scrutiny for its aggressive eviction tactics. The group filed the complaint in the wake of a Washington Free Beacon report, which revealed the church tried to evict tenants behind on their rent for as little as $28.55.

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Warnock will also support every uber Progressive piece of legislation that comes along.


Anybody pretending there is a choice here between a paragon of virtue and a low down dog is decieved or trying to decieve, these are 2 bad candidates. It comes down to the legislation you prefer with these guys.

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Few corporate landlords sought to evict more residents in 2021 than the company Sen. Raphael Warnock's (D., Ga.) church partnered with to manage its low-income apartment building.

Columbia Residential manages 49 apartments in the Atlanta area, including Columbia Tower at MLK Village, a low-income apartment building owned by Ebenezer Baptist Church, where Warnock serves as senior pastor. Out of 1,587 corporate landlords across the country, only 30 filed more eviction lawsuits in 2021 than Columbia Residential, records show. The property management company filed 605 eviction actions against its residents in 2021, according to a dataset cited by House Select Committee on the Coronavirus Crisis chairman Rep. James Clyburn (D., Ga.).

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Few corporate landlords sought to evict more residents in 2021 than the company Sen. Raphael Warnock's (D., Ga.) church partnered with to manage its low-income apartment building.

Columbia Residential manages 49 apartments in the Atlanta area, including Columbia Tower at MLK Village, a low-income apartment building owned by Ebenezer Baptist Church, where Warnock serves as senior pastor. Out of 1,587 corporate landlords across the country, only 30 filed more eviction lawsuits in 2021 than Columbia Residential, records show. The property management company filed 605 eviction actions against its residents in 2021, according to a dataset cited by House Select Committee on the Coronavirus Crisis chairman Rep. James Clyburn (D., Ga.).

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Pretty amazing. I'm not terribly shocked - a great tragedy for millenia is how Christian leaders basically use their pulpit and power to make money and could care less about severing G-d. I'm sure a couple of our favorite left-wing posters could easily defend this.

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I want Heschel to vote with Mitch, not give spiritual advice or teach me life lessons

He made mistakes, given the choices, I'd vote for him

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Warnock's favorability rating has dipped to 40 percent, a 5-point decrease since the campaign's previous poll taken 10 days ago, prior to the debate. The portion of respondents who view Warnock unfavorably has also increased 3 points, to 47 percent.

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Warnock has also been hit with a deluge of negative ads highlighting his ex-wife's accusations that he tried to run her over with a car.

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Not going to go into the he said she said part of Warnocks issues, but evicting destitute people over next to nothing is really bad.

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The National Legal and Policy Center alleged Ebenezer Baptist Church tried to hide its 99% ownership of Columbia Towers at MLK Village in Atlanta, an apartment building under scrutiny for its aggressive eviction tactics. The group filed the complaint in the wake of a Washington Free Beacon report, which revealed the church tried to evict tenants behind on their rent for as little as $28.55.

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Warnock will also support every uber Progressive piece of legislation that comes along.


Anybody pretending there is a choice here between a paragon of virtue and a low down dog is decieved or trying to decieve, these are 2 bad candidates. It comes down to the legislation you prefer with these guys.

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Blue star

Maybe it has always been this way, but the days of individual senators offering real leadership seem to have passed. Both parties tend to be in lock-step with an agenda outside of Krysten Sinema and Joe Manchin. I think the days of "Mr. Smith" may have passed and really - like pro sports - just voting for a jersey as opposed to a player.

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I won't vote for Democrats but I do wish some of my fellow conservatives here would have some balls and hold Republican candidates/politicians to account. Have some integrity in your vote.

Walker seems like a nut that has lived in direct contradiction to how he claims he'll vote. If I lived in Georgia, I'd sit this one out.

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The problem is, when conservatives sit it out, they get even worse governance with policies that are harmful for the country.

The pragmatic among us realize these candidates have real flaws, but are still far better than the alternative. It shocks me after the last 2 years of Biden, my fellow conservatives still haven't learned that hard lesson.

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He's a rotten candidate, and he never should have been nominated. Now that he's nominated, I have a choice between Walker, who at least will vote in favor of things I like and not promote things I hate, or Warnock, who will vote for everything I hate consistently.

As if Christians are prohibited from practicing real politik…

NOW, if you were to offer this criticism in the primary process, I would say that it is totally valid. Unfortunately, the left has basically given up that moral position by consistently seeking to support candidates like Walker in the Republican primaries because they think they'll be easier to defeat.

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Amen to this. This poster gets it.

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I want Heschel to vote with Mitch, not give spiritual advice or teach me life lessons

He made mistakes, given the choices, I'd vote for him

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Warnock's favorability rating has dipped to 40 percent, a 5-point decrease since the campaign's previous poll taken 10 days ago, prior to the debate. The portion of respondents who view Warnock unfavorably has also increased 3 points, to 47 percent.

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Warnock has also been hit with a deluge of negative ads highlighting his ex-wife's accusations that he tried to run her over with a car.

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Not going to go into the he said she said part of Warnocks issues, but evicting destitute people over next to nothing is really bad.

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The National Legal and Policy Center alleged Ebenezer Baptist Church tried to hide its 99% ownership of Columbia Towers at MLK Village in Atlanta, an apartment building under scrutiny for its aggressive eviction tactics. The group filed the complaint in the wake of a Washington Free Beacon report, which revealed the church tried to evict tenants behind on their rent for as little as $28.55.

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Warnock will also support every uber Progressive piece of legislation that comes along.


Anybody pretending there is a choice here between a paragon of virtue and a low down dog is decieved or trying to decieve, these are 2 bad candidates. It comes down to the legislation you prefer with these guys.

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Exactly.

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I want Heschel to vote with Mitch, not give spiritual advice or teach me life lessons

He made mistakes, given the choices, I'd vote for him

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Well said.

Glad to see you are more pragmatic with respect to candidates not named Trump.

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I want Heschel to vote with Mitch, not give spiritual advice or teach me life lessons

He made mistakes, given the choices, I'd vote for him

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Well said.

Glad to see you are more pragmatic with respect to candidates not named Trump.

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If/when Herschel incites an attack on the Capitol I'll turn on him too

In the meantime, he is unlikely to ever pass a bill. I just want him to vote with Mitch

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So you do not hold leaders to any moral principles?

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I used to. But then I noticed democrats did not. If I hold the opponents of evil democrats to standards evil democrats ignore, good policy loses and evil democrats win.

So no, I only ever vote on policy. I vote against evil democrat policy.

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So you do not hold leaders to any moral principles?

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I used to. But then I noticed democrats did not. If I hold the opponents of evil democrats to standards evil democrats ignore, good policy loses and evil democrats win.

So no, I only ever vote on policy. I vote against evil democrat policy.

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This attitude is how we'll eventually get Hitler vs Stalin on the ballot. Both sides backing "their guy" who is a monster. Then you'll look around and wonder what happened.

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So you do not hold leaders to any moral principles?

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I used to. But then I noticed democrats did not. If I hold the opponents of evil democrats to standards evil democrats ignore, good policy loses and evil democrats win.

So no, I only ever vote on policy. I vote against evil democrat policy.

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This attitude is how we'll eventually get Hitler vs Stalin on the ballot. Both sides backing "their guy" who is a monster. Then you'll look around and wonder what happened.

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**** off with that noise. I'm playing by the rules the democrats set. Hitler was a socialist. Stalin was a communist. I support neither. That's your side.

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So you do not hold leaders to any moral principles?

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I used to. But then I noticed democrats did not. If I hold the opponents of evil democrats to standards evil democrats ignore, good policy loses and evil democrats win.

So no, I only ever vote on policy. I vote against evil democrat policy.

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This attitude is how we'll eventually get Hitler vs Stalin on the ballot. Both sides backing "their guy" who is a monster. Then you'll look around and wonder what happened.

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**** off with that noise. I'm playing by the rules the democrats set. Hitler was a socialist. Stalin was a communist. I support neither. That's your side.

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Proof that few people read or understand history. Hitler was a hyper nationalist and extremely anti-Communist.

Nazism was an attempt to redefine socialism using nationalism.

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So you do not hold leaders to any moral principles?

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I used to. But then I noticed democrats did not. If I hold the opponents of evil democrats to standards evil democrats ignore, good policy loses and evil democrats win.

So no, I only ever vote on policy. I vote against evil democrat policy.

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This attitude is how we'll eventually get Hitler vs Stalin on the ballot. Both sides backing "their guy" who is a monster. Then you'll look around and wonder what happened.

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**** off with that noise. I'm playing by the rules the democrats set. Hitler was a socialist. Stalin was a communist. I support neither. That's your side.

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Proof that few people read or understand history. Hitler was a hyper nationalist and extremely anti-Communist.

Nazism was a attempt to redefine socialism using nationalism.

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*an attempt*

Hitler was a socialist. Stalin was a communist. I support neither. That's your side.

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So you do not hold leaders to any moral principles?

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I used to. But then I noticed democrats did not. If I hold the opponents of evil democrats to standards evil democrats ignore, good policy loses and evil democrats win.

So no, I only ever vote on policy. I vote against evil democrat policy.

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This attitude is how we'll eventually get Hitler vs Stalin on the ballot. Both sides backing "their guy" who is a monster. Then you'll look around and wonder what happened.

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**** off with that noise. I'm playing by the rules the democrats set. Hitler was a socialist. Stalin was a communist. I support neither. That's your side.

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Proof that few people read or understand history. Hitler was a hyper nationalist and extremely anti-Communist.

Nazism was a attempt to redefine socialism using nationalism.

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*an attempt*

Hitler was a socialist. Stalin was a communist. I support neither. That's your side.

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Yikes. MCC grad^

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So you do not hold leaders to any moral principles?

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I used to. But then I noticed democrats did not. If I hold the opponents of evil democrats to standards evil democrats ignore, good policy loses and evil democrats win.

So no, I only ever vote on policy. I vote against evil democrat policy.

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This attitude is how we'll eventually get Hitler vs Stalin on the ballot. Both sides backing "their guy" who is a monster. Then you'll look around and wonder what happened.

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This is a bit ridiculous. Post-war Germany and post-revolution Russia were both fertile breeding grounds for dictators. With the checks and balances we have in place, the idea that we would have a Hitler or Stalin ever come to power is borderline absurd. It would take a fall of the Republic like scenario for something like this to happen.

I prefer leaders with high morals. But what I also know is Jesus has never run for office. So we have to make due with fallible men - some more fallible than others. When we vote on personality we end up with guys like George Bush II - super nice, "moral" family guy that helped ruin the economy with his "compassionate" conservatism, and was persuaded to enter into unnecessary wars that got thousands of Americans killed or maimed for life.

I will never vote on personality again. Where the candidate stands on policy is of paramount importance. When we vote or don't vote because of personality, we end up with disasters like Biden. Then we will look around and wonder what happened.

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So you do not hold leaders to any moral principles?

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I used to. But then I noticed democrats did not. If I hold the opponents of evil democrats to standards evil democrats ignore, good policy loses and evil democrats win.

So no, I only ever vote on policy. I vote against evil democrat policy.

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This attitude is how we'll eventually get Hitler vs Stalin on the ballot. Both sides backing "their guy" who is a monster. Then you'll look around and wonder what happened.

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This is a bit ridiculous. Post-war Germany and post-revolution Russia were both fertile breeding grounds for dictators. With the checks and balances we have in place, the idea that we would have a Hitler or Stalin ever come to power is borderline absurd. It would take a fall of the Republic like scenario for something like this to happen.

I prefer leaders with high morals. But what I also know is Jesus has never run for office. So we have to make due with fallible men - some more fallible than others. When we vote on personality we end up with guys like George Bush II - super nice, "moral" family guy that helped ruin the economy with his "compassionate" conservatism, and was persuaded to enter into unnecessary wars that got thousands of Americans killed or maimed for life.

I will never vote on personality again. Where the candidate stands on policy is of paramount importance. When we vote or don't vote because of personality, we end up with disasters like Biden. Then we will look around and wonder what happened.

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"It can't happen here" is one of the most dangerous errors a people can fall into.

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So you do not hold leaders to any moral principles?

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I used to. But then I noticed democrats did not. If I hold the opponents of evil democrats to standards evil democrats ignore, good policy loses and evil democrats win.

So no, I only ever vote on policy. I vote against evil democrat policy.

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This attitude is how we'll eventually get Hitler vs Stalin on the ballot. Both sides backing "their guy" who is a monster. Then you'll look around and wonder what happened.

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This is a bit ridiculous. Post-war Germany and post-revolution Russia were both fertile breeding grounds for dictators. With the checks and balances we have in place, the idea that we would have a Hitler or Stalin ever come to power is borderline absurd. It would take a fall of the Republic like scenario for something like this to happen.

I prefer leaders with high morals. But what I also know is Jesus has never run for office. So we have to make due with fallible men - some more fallible than others. When we vote on personality we end up with guys like George Bush II - super nice, "moral" family guy that helped ruin the economy with his "compassionate" conservatism, and was persuaded to enter into unnecessary wars that got thousands of Americans killed or maimed for life.

I will never vote on personality again. Where the candidate stands on policy is of paramount importance. When we vote or don't vote because of personality, we end up with disasters like Biden. Then we will look around and wonder what happened.

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"It can't happen here" is one of the most dangerous errors a people can fall into.

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Never said it couldn't happen. Indeed, as I said above, if the Republic falls, certainly. But I also don't vote based on highly unlikely and absurd what ifs. No one should.

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So you do not hold leaders to any moral principles?

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I used to. But then I noticed democrats did not. If I hold the opponents of evil democrats to standards evil democrats ignore, good policy loses and evil democrats win.

So no, I only ever vote on policy. I vote against evil democrat policy.

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This attitude is how we'll eventually get Hitler vs Stalin on the ballot. Both sides backing "their guy" who is a monster. Then you'll look around and wonder what happened.

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**** off with that noise. I'm playing by the rules the democrats set. Hitler was a socialist. Stalin was a communist. I support neither. That's your side.

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Proof that few people read or understand history. Hitler was a hyper nationalist and extremely anti-Communist.

Nazism was a attempt to redefine socialism using nationalism.

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*an attempt*

Hitler was a socialist. Stalin was a communist. I support neither. That's your side.

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Yikes. MCC grad^

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No - it's somebody who, unlike you, actually gets history. Yes, commies and nazis hated each other in Hitler & Stalin's day but it wasn't because of the popular myth that they were on opposite ends of the political spectrum - it was because they were both fanatical LEFTIST political rivals that clashed (often violently) as they vied for power. Sure, there are certainly differences between fascism and communism as they're different brands of socialism, but make no mistake - they're both still forms of socialism - which is a leftist ideology. And finally "nationalism" in and of itself isn't right-wing or left-wing - it simply means a deep love for and devotion to one's country. The fact that the nazis terribly abused and mis-used it (as did Mussolini's fascists in Italy) doesn't change that fact.