Or struggling with their sexuality which can be incredibly difficult mentally. It drove a friend of mine to attempt suicide and end up in a facility for a number of months after.
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I tell them the truth, "God loves just like you and wishes for you the same sexual fulfillment as straights that is, within loving, committed relationships." Your message is "You are an abomination in the eyes of God." I am guessing my truth affirms them and keeps from possibly destroying themselves.Wangchung said:Or maybe it's because they've been lied to by people like you and suddenly feel hopeless when all your garbage turns out to be just that, garbage. You push false hope through permanent damage. A trail of dead led astray youth lay in your wake. Not garbage but hope against your vile representation of them.Waco1947 said:. It's not a rebuttal. The lgbtq youth cohort commit more suicides by percentage of youth than straightsCanada2017 said:Redbrickbear said:Suicide is up all across the board in modern America.Waco1947 said:
1. Suicide among the LGBTQ community are out of proportion to their cohort. Really, really sad.
2. Parental and peer and societal and ecclesiastical pressures can be overwhelming negative to a teen. The threat of hell by non denimations is also a source of self revulsion.
YET I am repeated reviled because I do not think it is a sin. Churches which are supposed to be centers of healing and good news are instead sources of hate.
3. Talk about suicide if you suspect someone of idealization of it. Educate yourself.
4. Go to Safetalk for more information on teen suicide.
Its an epidemic that is NOT limited to people of one sexuality, race, gender, or region of the country.
Trying to tie high LGBTQ suicides to Christian moral belief (and Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist belief as well) is just a blood libel and a low political tactic.
LGBTQ also have higher drug usage rates and higher mental illness rates than the general population..is that all the fault of Christians? YES it's your calling it a perversion. But not ALL but it's certainly in the mix.
Excellent rebuttal.
+ 1
LGBTQ are more than four times as likely to attempt suicide than their peers (Johns et al., 2019; Johns et al., 2020).
". Suicide is the second leading cause of death among young people aged 10 to 24 (Hedegaard, Curtin, & Warner, 2018) and lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, and questioning (LGBTQ) youth are at significantly increased risk." The Trevor Report
4x more likely.
Why are lgbtq Youth prone to drug and alcohol abuse b?
Because of reject from people like you, their parents, the church and Friends.
Not the internet that is simplistic and doesn't begin to be backed by the data. Suicide happens for complex reasons including lack of parental caring and bullying on the internet.Redbrickbear said:Porteroso said:
Wow, I didn't realize teen suicide had gone up that much. I'm not sure you can directly blame phones, but you could probably get pretty close with enough data.
It's the internet that is the problem.
The I-Phone is just part of the problem since it's the vector for transmitting the internet to young people 24hrs a day-7 days a week-365 days a year.
No breaks, no timeouts, no moderation, and no perspective…
Massive rise because the evangelical church and Christians believe in fantastical God that does not match realityRedbrickbear said:
The internet is also hitting religion hard. Massive rise in atheism and agnosticism.
Mormons (LDS) are a good example of this trend:
So very, very sad. The church's loving care and acceptance would help these teens.. I don't what church it as long as they receive these kids with grace.Redbrickbear said:"The CDC found 45 pct of high school students were so persistently sad or hopeless in 2021 they were unable to engage in regular activities. Almost 1 in 5 seriously considered suicide and 9 pct surveyed tried to take their lives during previous 12 months."https://t.co/W9ijllRnVv
— Alec MacGillis (@AlecMacGillis) December 6, 2022
You said, "it does not matter whether you think homosexual conduct is a sin."He Hate Me said:Broadly speaking, it does not matter whether you think homosexual conduct is a sin or not. It matters what the Creator says and how he designed us. The fact is the body and mind are not made for homosexual conduct. And this kind of nonsense endangers youth. You are guilt tripping them for being LGBTQ. You are telling them God only made you to be straight so you are an abomination before God you don't live up to God's "perfect nonsense." These comments drive kids further into depression and low self esteem and this silliness of God's design demeans their understanding of God's creation in them as LGBTQ humans.Waco1947 said:
1. Suicide among the LGBTQ community are out of proportion to their cohort. Really, really sad.
2. Parental and peer and societal and ecclesiastical pressures can be overwhelming negative to a teen. The threat of hell by non denimations is also a source of self revulsion.
YET I am repeated reviled because I do not think it is a sin. Churches which are supposed to be centers of healing and good news are instead sources of hate.
No man can ever meet the social, psychological, and emotional needs that a woman was designed to meet. Seeking a man to fill the place of woman leads to all sorts of mental and emotional problems. The same is true for women who seek other women to fill the place a man was designed to minister to. The physical problems associated with receptive anal sex and promiscuity are well documented. You can call it a sin or not. The Bible calls it a sin and the natural results that follow from the conduct demonstrate that we should follow God's design for marriage and sexuality.
Then turn around and say, "The Bible calls it a sin and the natural results that follow from the conduct demonstrate that we should follow God's design for marriage and sexuality.
I hope you never have a LGBTQ child, niece or nephew and grandchild, or friend who has a gay child or grandchild because you will do great harm. And if spout the idiocy in Sunday School class or small group you will deeply hurt the parents of LGBTQ chikldren and grandchildren.
Wake you are killing kids. Yes, killing kids because your beliefs are destructive to them and lead to suicide. Stop it.
I hope you never have a LGBTQ child, niece or nephew and grandchild, or friend who has a gay child or grandchild because you will do great harm. And if you spout this idiocy in Sunday School class or small group you will deeply hurt the parents of LGBTQ chikldren and grandchildren.Canada2017 said:Redbrickbear said:Suicide is up all across the board in modern America.Waco1947 said:
1. Suicide among the LGBTQ community are out of proportion to their cohort. Really, really sad.
2. Parental and peer and societal and ecclesiastical pressures can be overwhelming negative to a teen. The threat of hell by non denimations is also a source of self revulsion.
YET I am repeated reviled because I do not think it is a sin. Churches which are supposed to be centers of healing and good news are instead sources of hate.
3. Talk about suicide if you suspect someone of idealization of it. Educate yourself.
4. Go to Safetalk for more information on teen suicide.
Its an epidemic that is NOT limited to people of one sexuality, race, gender, or region of the country.
Trying to tie high LGBTQ suicides to Christian moral belief (and Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist belief as well) is just a blood libel and a low political tactic.
LGBTQ also have higher drug usage rates and higher mental illness rates than the general population..is that all the fault of Christians?
Excellent rebuttal.
+ 1
Wake you are killing kids. Yes, killing kids because your beliefs are destructive to them and lead to suicide. Stop it.
nein51 said:
Or struggling with their sexuality which can be incredibly difficult mentally.
Fair assessment.
Life is hard……even harder for the unlucky.
But the current woke narrative is causing the unlucky to suffer even more damage .
A narrative often promoted by unintelligent mediocrities who use the internet to massage their own self loathing .
Waco1947 said:. It's not a rebuttal. The lgbtq youth cohort commit more suicides by percentage of youth than straightsCanada2017 said:Redbrickbear said:Suicide is up all across the board in modern America.Waco1947 said:
1. Suicide among the LGBTQ community are out of proportion to their cohort. Really, really sad.
2. Parental and peer and societal and ecclesiastical pressures can be overwhelming negative to a teen. The threat of hell by non denimations is also a source of self revulsion.
YET I am repeated reviled because I do not think it is a sin. Churches which are supposed to be centers of healing and good news are instead sources of hate.
3. Talk about suicide if you suspect someone of idealization of it. Educate yourself.
4. Go to Safetalk for more information on teen suicide.
Its an epidemic that is NOT limited to people of one sexuality, race, gender, or region of the country.
Trying to tie high LGBTQ suicides to Christian moral belief (and Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist belief as well) is just a blood libel and a low political tactic.
LGBTQ also have higher drug usage rates and higher mental illness rates than the general population..is that all the fault of Christians? YES it's your calling it a perversion. But not ALL but it's certainly in the mix.
Excellent rebuttal.
+ 1
LGBTQ are more than four times as likely to attempt suicide than their peers (Johns et al., 2019; Johns et al., 2020).
". Suicide is the second leading cause of death among young people aged 10 to 24 (Hedegaard, Curtin, & Warner, 2018) and lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, and questioning (LGBTQ) youth are at significantly increased risk." The Trevor Report
4x more likely.
Why are lgbtq Youth prone to drug and alcohol abuse b?
Because of reject from people like you, their parents, the church and Friends.
What a shameless slander
So, how about butt sex between 2 heteros? Asking for a friend. I think Ted Cruz is nothing more than "Meow". Any man who would sit idle by when trump called him a sorts of names and then says vile things about Ted's wife (called her a crook and ugly), I have ZERO respect for. Furthermore, after all that, he cozied right back up and sat on Trumps lap. What a miserable human. I hope his daughter gets the help she needs.He Hate Me said:Broadly speaking, it does not matter whether you think homosexual conduct is a sin or not. It matters what the Creator says and how he designed us. The fact is the body and mind are not made for homosexual conduct.Waco1947 said:
1. Suicide among the LGBTQ community are out of proportion to their cohort. Really, really sad.
2. Parental and peer and societal and ecclesiastical pressures can be overwhelming negative to a teen. The threat of hell by non denimations is also a source of self revulsion.
YET I am repeated reviled because I do not think it is a sin. Churches which are supposed to be centers of healing and good news are instead sources of hate.
No man can ever meet the social, psychological, and emotional needs that a woman was designed to meet. Seeking a man to fill the place of woman leads to all sorts of mental and emotional problems. The same is true for women who seek other women to fill the place a man was designed to minister to. The physical problems associated with receptive anal sex and promiscuity are well documented. You can call it a sin or not. The Bible calls it a sin and the natural results that follow from the conduct demonstrate that we should follow God's design for marriage and sexuality.
I wonder why suicide ideation increases among teens the more being gay is trendy and advantageous?
You lie to them.Waco1947 said:I tell them the truth, "God loves just like you and wishes for you the same sexual fulfillment as straights that is, within loving, committed relationships." Your message is "You are an abomination in the eyes of God." I am guessing my truth affirms them and keeps from possibly destroying themselves.Wangchung said:Or maybe it's because they've been lied to by people like you and suddenly feel hopeless when all your garbage turns out to be just that, garbage. You push false hope through permanent damage. A trail of dead led astray youth lay in your wake. Not garbage but hope against your vile representation of them.Waco1947 said:. It's not a rebuttal. The lgbtq youth cohort commit more suicides by percentage of youth than straightsCanada2017 said:Redbrickbear said:Suicide is up all across the board in modern America.Waco1947 said:
1. Suicide among the LGBTQ community are out of proportion to their cohort. Really, really sad.
2. Parental and peer and societal and ecclesiastical pressures can be overwhelming negative to a teen. The threat of hell by non denimations is also a source of self revulsion.
YET I am repeated reviled because I do not think it is a sin. Churches which are supposed to be centers of healing and good news are instead sources of hate.
3. Talk about suicide if you suspect someone of idealization of it. Educate yourself.
4. Go to Safetalk for more information on teen suicide.
Its an epidemic that is NOT limited to people of one sexuality, race, gender, or region of the country.
Trying to tie high LGBTQ suicides to Christian moral belief (and Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist belief as well) is just a blood libel and a low political tactic.
LGBTQ also have higher drug usage rates and higher mental illness rates than the general population..is that all the fault of Christians? YES it's your calling it a perversion. But not ALL but it's certainly in the mix.
Excellent rebuttal.
+ 1
LGBTQ are more than four times as likely to attempt suicide than their peers (Johns et al., 2019; Johns et al., 2020).
". Suicide is the second leading cause of death among young people aged 10 to 24 (Hedegaard, Curtin, & Warner, 2018) and lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, and questioning (LGBTQ) youth are at significantly increased risk." The Trevor Report
4x more likely.
Why are lgbtq Youth prone to drug and alcohol abuse b?
Because of reject from people like you, their parents, the church and Friends.
The proper Christian message to LGBT youth is that they are sinners, as we all are. But we have forgiveness through Jesus Christ if we repent and believe. No matter the sin. It's a fair criticism of Christians if they approach them with hostility and condemnation without love and support.
But affirming their sin, as you do, is a lie straight from the Devil. Ironically, you ARE causing them to destroy themselves. May the Lord shut your mouth from speaking these lies, and close their ears from hearing them.
That data indicates you have it exactly backwardsWaco1947 said:I hope you never have a LGBTQ child, niece or nephew and grandchild, or friend who has a gay child or grandchild because you will do great harm. And if you spout this idiocy in Sunday School class or small group you will deeply hurt the parents of LGBTQ chikldren and grandchildren.Canada2017 said:Redbrickbear said:Suicide is up all across the board in modern America.Waco1947 said:
1. Suicide among the LGBTQ community are out of proportion to their cohort. Really, really sad.
2. Parental and peer and societal and ecclesiastical pressures can be overwhelming negative to a teen. The threat of hell by non denimations is also a source of self revulsion.
YET I am repeated reviled because I do not think it is a sin. Churches which are supposed to be centers of healing and good news are instead sources of hate.
3. Talk about suicide if you suspect someone of idealization of it. Educate yourself.
4. Go to Safetalk for more information on teen suicide.
Its an epidemic that is NOT limited to people of one sexuality, race, gender, or region of the country.
Trying to tie high LGBTQ suicides to Christian moral belief (and Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist belief as well) is just a blood libel and a low political tactic.
LGBTQ also have higher drug usage rates and higher mental illness rates than the general population..is that all the fault of Christians?
Excellent rebuttal.
+ 1
Wake you are killing kids. Yes, killing kids because your beliefs are destructive to them and lead to suicide. Stop it.
Waco1947 said:Massive rise because the evangelical church and Christians believe in fantastical God that does not match realityRedbrickbear said:
The internet is also hitting religion hard. Massive rise in atheism and agnosticism.
Mormons (LDS) are a good example of this trend:
As opposed to placing one's faith in some wandering preacher who is dead and gone for two millennia.
whiterock said:That data indicates you have it exactly backwardsWaco1947 said:I hope you never have a LGBTQ child, niece or nephew and grandchild, or friend who has a gay child or grandchild because you will do great harm. And if you spout this idiocy in Sunday School class or small group you will deeply hurt the parents of LGBTQ chikldren and grandchildren.Canada2017 said:Redbrickbear said:Suicide is up all across the board in modern America.Waco1947 said:
1. Suicide among the LGBTQ community are out of proportion to their cohort. Really, really sad.
2. Parental and peer and societal and ecclesiastical pressures can be overwhelming negative to a teen. The threat of hell by non denimations is also a source of self revulsion.
YET I am repeated reviled because I do not think it is a sin. Churches which are supposed to be centers of healing and good news are instead sources of hate.
3. Talk about suicide if you suspect someone of idealization of it. Educate yourself.
4. Go to Safetalk for more information on teen suicide.
Its an epidemic that is NOT limited to people of one sexuality, race, gender, or region of the country.
Trying to tie high LGBTQ suicides to Christian moral belief (and Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist belief as well) is just a blood libel and a low political tactic.
LGBTQ also have higher drug usage rates and higher mental illness rates than the general population..is that all the fault of Christians?
Excellent rebuttal.
+ 1
Wake you are killing kids. Yes, killing kids because your beliefs are destructive to them and lead to suicide. Stop it.
His uneasy grip on data and facts is well known.
Being gay is celebrated and cheered yet suicidal ideation increases. It's almost as if the wages of sin is death.
Man there some insane logic posted in this thread
It's true but tough to hear . I had lunch with a transgender today and she talked about the abuse of church members.Jack Bauer said:Waco1947 said:. It's not a rebuttal. The lgbtq youth cohort commit more suicides by percentage of youth than straightsCanada2017 said:Redbrickbear said:Suicide is up all across the board in modern America.Waco1947 said:
1. Suicide among the LGBTQ community are out of proportion to their cohort. Really, really sad.
2. Parental and peer and societal and ecclesiastical pressures can be overwhelming negative to a teen. The threat of hell by non denimations is also a source of self revulsion.
YET I am repeated reviled because I do not think it is a sin. Churches which are supposed to be centers of healing and good news are instead sources of hate.
3. Talk about suicide if you suspect someone of idealization of it. Educate yourself.
4. Go to Safetalk for more information on teen suicide.
Its an epidemic that is NOT limited to people of one sexuality, race, gender, or region of the country.
Trying to tie high LGBTQ suicides to Christian moral belief (and Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist belief as well) is just a blood libel and a low political tactic.
LGBTQ also have higher drug usage rates and higher mental illness rates than the general population..is that all the fault of Christians? YES it's your calling it a perversion. But not ALL but it's certainly in the mix.
Excellent rebuttal.
+ 1
LGBTQ are more than four times as likely to attempt suicide than their peers (Johns et al., 2019; Johns et al., 2020).
". Suicide is the second leading cause of death among young people aged 10 to 24 (Hedegaard, Curtin, & Warner, 2018) and lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, and questioning (LGBTQ) youth are at significantly increased risk." The Trevor Report
4x more likely.
Why are lgbtq Youth prone to drug and alcohol abuse b?
Because of reject from people like you, their parents, the church and Friends.
What a shameless slander
Waco1947 ,la
crazy thinking. It will s not a sin no matter what Paul said 2000 years in a tiny culture in the ME. Cultural enlightenment has advanced. The church has been wrong about divorced pastors, married pastors, women preachers, a God who commands killing of enemies. Paul said one thing about it and Jesus said nothing. But you want to commit these innocent people to a fiery death;no wonder they commit suicide for that kind of insanity thrust upon themHarrison Bergeron said:whiterock said:That data indicates you have it exactly backwardsWaco1947 said:I hope you never have a LGBTQ child, niece or nephew and grandchild, or friend who has a gay child or grandchild because you will do great harm. And if you spout this idiocy in Sunday School class or small group you will deeply hurt the parents of LGBTQ chikldren and grandchildren.Canada2017 said:Redbrickbear said:Suicide is up all across the board in modern America.Waco1947 said:
1. Suicide among the LGBTQ community are out of proportion to their cohort. Really, really sad.
2. Parental and peer and societal and ecclesiastical pressures can be overwhelming negative to a teen. The threat of hell by non denimations is also a source of self revulsion.
YET I am repeated reviled because I do not think it is a sin. Churches which are supposed to be centers of healing and good news are instead sources of hate.
3. Talk about suicide if you suspect someone of idealization of it. Educate yourself.
4. Go to Safetalk for more information on teen suicide.
Its an epidemic that is NOT limited to people of one sexuality, race, gender, or region of the country.
Trying to tie high LGBTQ suicides to Christian moral belief (and Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist belief as well) is just a blood libel and a low political tactic.
LGBTQ also have higher drug usage rates and higher mental illness rates than the general population..is that all the fault of Christians?
Excellent rebuttal.
+ 1
Wake you are killing kids. Yes, killing kids because your beliefs are destructive to them and lead to suicide. Stop it.
His uneasy grip on data and facts is well known.
Being gay is celebrated and cheered yet suicidal ideation increases. It's almost as if the wages of sin
is death.
Waco1947 ,la
Prove it. That I have it wrongwhiterock said:That data indicates you have it exactly backwardsWaco1947 said:I hope you never have a LGBTQ child, niece or nephew and grandchild, or friend who has a gay child or grandchild because you will do great harm. And if you spout this idiocy in Sunday School class or small group you will deeply hurt the parents of LGBTQ chikldren and grandchildren.Canada2017 said:Redbrickbear said:Suicide is up all across the board in modern America.Waco1947 said:
1. Suicide among the LGBTQ community are out of proportion to their cohort. Really, really sad.
2. Parental and peer and societal and ecclesiastical pressures can be overwhelming negative to a teen. The threat of hell by non denimations is also a source of self revulsion.
YET I am repeated reviled because I do not think it is a sin. Churches which are supposed to be centers of healing and good news are instead sources of hate.
3. Talk about suicide if you suspect someone of idealization of it. Educate yourself.
4. Go to Safetalk for more information on teen suicide.
Its an epidemic that is NOT limited to people of one sexuality, race, gender, or region of the country.
Trying to tie high LGBTQ suicides to Christian moral belief (and Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist belief as well) is just a blood libel and a low political tactic.
LGBTQ also have higher drug usage rates and higher mental illness rates than the general population..is that all the fault of Christians?
Excellent rebuttal.
+ 1
Wake you are killing kids. Yes, killing kids because your beliefs are destructive to them and lead to suicide. Stop it.
Waco1947 ,la
No you didn't. Good grief you have zero integrity. HahahaWaco1947 said:It's true but tough to hear . I had lunch with a transgender today and she talked about the abuse of church members.Jack Bauer said:Waco1947 said:. It's not a rebuttal. The lgbtq youth cohort commit more suicides by percentage of youth than straightsCanada2017 said:Redbrickbear said:Suicide is up all across the board in modern America.Waco1947 said:
1. Suicide among the LGBTQ community are out of proportion to their cohort. Really, really sad.
2. Parental and peer and societal and ecclesiastical pressures can be overwhelming negative to a teen. The threat of hell by non denimations is also a source of self revulsion.
YET I am repeated reviled because I do not think it is a sin. Churches which are supposed to be centers of healing and good news are instead sources of hate.
3. Talk about suicide if you suspect someone of idealization of it. Educate yourself.
4. Go to Safetalk for more information on teen suicide.
Its an epidemic that is NOT limited to people of one sexuality, race, gender, or region of the country.
Trying to tie high LGBTQ suicides to Christian moral belief (and Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist belief as well) is just a blood libel and a low political tactic.
LGBTQ also have higher drug usage rates and higher mental illness rates than the general population..is that all the fault of Christians? YES it's your calling it a perversion. But not ALL but it's certainly in the mix.
Excellent rebuttal.
+ 1
LGBTQ are more than four times as likely to attempt suicide than their peers (Johns et al., 2019; Johns et al., 2020).
". Suicide is the second leading cause of death among young people aged 10 to 24 (Hedegaard, Curtin, & Warner, 2018) and lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, and questioning (LGBTQ) youth are at significantly increased risk." The Trevor Report
4x more likely.
Why are lgbtq Youth prone to drug and alcohol abuse b?
Because of reject from people like you, their parents, the church and Friends.
What a shameless slander
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?
I am not lying to them I am affirming their humanity. Unlike you who is condemning them to death in a fiery hell even though God is a God of grace.. Shame on you for your arrogant posturing with some kind of righteousness that is misguided when it comes to these kids. They need love not condemnation that somehow the fact that God made made them and God has made a mistake. How sad you in the evangelical church are. These kids have a Enough time was living life without jerks like you standing in judgmentBusyTarpDuster2017 said:You lie to them.Waco1947 said:I tell them the truth, "God loves just like you and wishes for you the same sexual fulfillment as straights that is, within loving, committed relationships." Your message is "You are an abomination in the eyes of God." I am guessing my truth affirms them and keeps from possibly destroying themselves.Wangchung said:Or maybe it's because they've been lied to by people like you and suddenly feel hopeless when all your garbage turns out to be just that, garbage. You push false hope through permanent damage. A trail of dead led astray youth lay in your wake. Not garbage but hope against your vile representation of them.Waco1947 said:. It's not a rebuttal. The lgbtq youth cohort commit more suicides by percentage of youth than straightsCanada2017 said:Redbrickbear said:Suicide is up all across the board in modern America.Waco1947 said:
1. Suicide among the LGBTQ community are out of proportion to their cohort. Really, really sad.
2. Parental and peer and societal and ecclesiastical pressures can be overwhelming negative to a teen. The threat of hell by non denimations is also a source of self revulsion.
YET I am repeated reviled because I do not think it is a sin. Churches which are supposed to be centers of healing and good news are instead sources of hate.
3. Talk about suicide if you suspect someone of idealization of it. Educate yourself.
4. Go to Safetalk for more information on teen suicide.
Its an epidemic that is NOT limited to people of one sexuality, race, gender, or region of the country.
Trying to tie high LGBTQ suicides to Christian moral belief (and Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist belief as well) is just a blood libel and a low political tactic.
LGBTQ also have higher drug usage rates and higher mental illness rates than the general population..is that all the fault of Christians? YES it's your calling it a perversion. But not ALL but it's certainly in the mix.
Excellent rebuttal.
+ 1
LGBTQ are more than four times as likely to attempt suicide than their peers (Johns et al., 2019; Johns et al., 2020).
". Suicide is the second leading cause of death among young people aged 10 to 24 (Hedegaard, Curtin, & Warner, 2018) and lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, and questioning (LGBTQ) youth are at significantly increased risk." The Trevor Report
4x more likely.
Why are lgbtq Youth prone to drug and alcohol abuse b?
Because of reject from people like you, their parents, the church and Friends.
The proper Christian message to LGBT youth is that they are sinners, as we all are. But we have forgiveness through Jesus Christ if we repent and believe. No matter the sin. It's a fair criticism of Christians if they approach them with hostility and condemnation without love and support.
But affirming their sin, as you do, is a lie straight from the Devil. Ironically, you ARE causing them to destroy themselves. May the Lord shut your mouth from speaking these lies, and close their ears from hearing
them.
Waco1947 ,la
Unless the goal is to infiltrate, undermine, and destroy, I do not know why anyone would be part of a group that they fundamentally disagree with both in founding doctrine and historical teaching. If people do not agree with the Christian position on sexual ethics, then they should leave and start their own group. Then they would not have to change everything slowly over time. They could have their own group. They could have their own ethos all at once rather than trying to have a different ethos evolve over time until it suited them. You could be their "Paul."Waco1947 said:crazy thinking. It will s not a sin no matter what Paul said 2000 years in a tiny culture in the ME. Cultural enlightenment has advanced. The church has been wrong about divorced pastors, married pastors, women preachers, a God who commands killing of enemies. Paul said one thing about it and Jesus said nothing. But you want to commit these innocent people to a fiery death;no wonder they commit suicide for that kind of insanity thrust upon themHarrison Bergeron said:whiterock said:That data indicates you have it exactly backwardsWaco1947 said:I hope you never have a LGBTQ child, niece or nephew and grandchild, or friend who has a gay child or grandchild because you will do great harm. And if you spout this idiocy in Sunday School class or small group you will deeply hurt the parents of LGBTQ chikldren and grandchildren.Canada2017 said:Redbrickbear said:Suicide is up all across the board in modern America.Waco1947 said:
1. Suicide among the LGBTQ community are out of proportion to their cohort. Really, really sad.
2. Parental and peer and societal and ecclesiastical pressures can be overwhelming negative to a teen. The threat of hell by non denimations is also a source of self revulsion.
YET I am repeated reviled because I do not think it is a sin. Churches which are supposed to be centers of healing and good news are instead sources of hate.
3. Talk about suicide if you suspect someone of idealization of it. Educate yourself.
4. Go to Safetalk for more information on teen suicide.
Its an epidemic that is NOT limited to people of one sexuality, race, gender, or region of the country.
Trying to tie high LGBTQ suicides to Christian moral belief (and Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist belief as well) is just a blood libel and a low political tactic.
LGBTQ also have higher drug usage rates and higher mental illness rates than the general population..is that all the fault of Christians?
Excellent rebuttal.
+ 1
Wake you are killing kids. Yes, killing kids because your beliefs are destructive to them and lead to suicide. Stop it.
His uneasy grip on data and facts is well known.
Being gay is celebrated and cheered yet suicidal ideation increases. It's almost as if the wages of sin
is death.
More like their Jim Jones.He Hate Me said:Unless the goal is to infiltrate, undermine, and destroy, I do not know why anyone would be part of a group that they fundamentally disagree with both in founding doctrine and historical teaching. If people do not agree with the Christian position on sexual ethics, then they should leave and start their own group. Then they would not have to change everything slowly over time. They could have their own group. They could have their own ethos all at once rather than trying to have a different ethos evolve over time until it suited them. You could be their "Paul."Waco1947 said:crazy thinking. It will s not a sin no matter what Paul said 2000 years in a tiny culture in the ME. Cultural enlightenment has advanced. The church has been wrong about divorced pastors, married pastors, women preachers, a God who commands killing of enemies. Paul said one thing about it and Jesus said nothing. But you want to commit these innocent people to a fiery death;no wonder they commit suicide for that kind of insanity thrust upon themHarrison Bergeron said:whiterock said:That data indicates you have it exactly backwardsWaco1947 said:I hope you never have a LGBTQ child, niece or nephew and grandchild, or friend who has a gay child or grandchild because you will do great harm. And if you spout this idiocy in Sunday School class or small group you will deeply hurt the parents of LGBTQ chikldren and grandchildren.Canada2017 said:Redbrickbear said:Suicide is up all across the board in modern America.Waco1947 said:
1. Suicide among the LGBTQ community are out of proportion to their cohort. Really, really sad.
2. Parental and peer and societal and ecclesiastical pressures can be overwhelming negative to a teen. The threat of hell by non denimations is also a source of self revulsion.
YET I am repeated reviled because I do not think it is a sin. Churches which are supposed to be centers of healing and good news are instead sources of hate.
3. Talk about suicide if you suspect someone of idealization of it. Educate yourself.
4. Go to Safetalk for more information on teen suicide.
Its an epidemic that is NOT limited to people of one sexuality, race, gender, or region of the country.
Trying to tie high LGBTQ suicides to Christian moral belief (and Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist belief as well) is just a blood libel and a low political tactic.
LGBTQ also have higher drug usage rates and higher mental illness rates than the general population..is that all the fault of Christians?
Excellent rebuttal.
+ 1
Wake you are killing kids. Yes, killing kids because your beliefs are destructive to them and lead to suicide. Stop it.
His uneasy grip on data and facts is well known.
Being gay is celebrated and cheered yet suicidal ideation increases. It's almost as if the wages of sin
is death.
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?
The Romans were a tiny culture in the Middle East?Waco1947 said:crazy thinking. It will s not a sin no matter what Paul said 2000 years in a tiny culture in the ME. Cultural enlightenment has advanced. The church has been wrong about divorced pastors, married pastors, women preachers, a God who commands killing of enemies. Paul said one thing about it and Jesus said nothing. But you want to commit these innocent people to a fiery death;no wonder they commit suicide for that kind of insanity thrust upon themHarrison Bergeron said:whiterock said:That data indicates you have it exactly backwardsWaco1947 said:I hope you never have a LGBTQ child, niece or nephew and grandchild, or friend who has a gay child or grandchild because you will do great harm. And if you spout this idiocy in Sunday School class or small group you will deeply hurt the parents of LGBTQ chikldren and grandchildren.Canada2017 said:Redbrickbear said:Suicide is up all across the board in modern America.Waco1947 said:
1. Suicide among the LGBTQ community are out of proportion to their cohort. Really, really sad.
2. Parental and peer and societal and ecclesiastical pressures can be overwhelming negative to a teen. The threat of hell by non denimations is also a source of self revulsion.
YET I am repeated reviled because I do not think it is a sin. Churches which are supposed to be centers of healing and good news are instead sources of hate.
3. Talk about suicide if you suspect someone of idealization of it. Educate yourself.
4. Go to Safetalk for more information on teen suicide.
Its an epidemic that is NOT limited to people of one sexuality, race, gender, or region of the country.
Trying to tie high LGBTQ suicides to Christian moral belief (and Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist belief as well) is just a blood libel and a low political tactic.
LGBTQ also have higher drug usage rates and higher mental illness rates than the general population..is that all the fault of Christians?
Excellent rebuttal.
+ 1
Wake you are killing kids. Yes, killing kids because your beliefs are destructive to them and lead to suicide. Stop it.
His uneasy grip on data and facts is well known.
Being gay is celebrated and cheered yet suicidal ideation increases. It's almost as if the wages of sin
is death.
Insignificant really.Sam Lowry said:The Romans were a tiny culture in the Middle East?Waco1947 said:crazy thinking. It will s not a sin no matter what Paul said 2000 years in a tiny culture in the ME. Cultural enlightenment has advanced. The church has been wrong about divorced pastors, married pastors, women preachers, a God who commands killing of enemies. Paul said one thing about it and Jesus said nothing. But you want to commit these innocent people to a fiery death;no wonder they commit suicide for that kind of insanity thrust upon themHarrison Bergeron said:whiterock said:That data indicates you have it exactly backwardsWaco1947 said:I hope you never have a LGBTQ child, niece or nephew and grandchild, or friend who has a gay child or grandchild because you will do great harm. And if you spout this idiocy in Sunday School class or small group you will deeply hurt the parents of LGBTQ chikldren and grandchildren.Canada2017 said:Redbrickbear said:Suicide is up all across the board in modern America.Waco1947 said:
1. Suicide among the LGBTQ community are out of proportion to their cohort. Really, really sad.
2. Parental and peer and societal and ecclesiastical pressures can be overwhelming negative to a teen. The threat of hell by non denimations is also a source of self revulsion.
YET I am repeated reviled because I do not think it is a sin. Churches which are supposed to be centers of healing and good news are instead sources of hate.
3. Talk about suicide if you suspect someone of idealization of it. Educate yourself.
4. Go to Safetalk for more information on teen suicide.
Its an epidemic that is NOT limited to people of one sexuality, race, gender, or region of the country.
Trying to tie high LGBTQ suicides to Christian moral belief (and Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist belief as well) is just a blood libel and a low political tactic.
LGBTQ also have higher drug usage rates and higher mental illness rates than the general population..is that all the fault of Christians?
Excellent rebuttal.
+ 1
Wake you are killing kids. Yes, killing kids because your beliefs are destructive to them and lead to suicide. Stop it.
His uneasy grip on data and facts is well known.
Being gay is celebrated and cheered yet suicidal ideation increases. It's almost as if the wages of sin
is death.
Waco1947 said:. It's not a rebuttal. The lgbtq youth cohort commit more suicides by percentage of youth than straightsCanada2017 said:Redbrickbear said:Suicide is up all across the board in modern America.Waco1947 said:
1. Suicide among the LGBTQ community are out of proportion to their cohort. Really, really sad.
2. Parental and peer and societal and ecclesiastical pressures can be overwhelming negative to a teen. The threat of hell by non denimations is also a source of self revulsion.
YET I am repeated reviled because I do not think it is a sin. Churches which are supposed to be centers of healing and good news are instead sources of hate.
3. Talk about suicide if you suspect someone of idealization of it. Educate yourself.
4. Go to Safetalk for more information on teen suicide.
Its an epidemic that is NOT limited to people of one sexuality, race, gender, or region of the country.
Trying to tie high LGBTQ suicides to Christian moral belief (and Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist belief as well) is just a blood libel and a low political tactic.
LGBTQ also have higher drug usage rates and higher mental illness rates than the general population..is that all the fault of Christians? YES it's your calling it a perversion. But not ALL but it's certainly in the mix.
Excellent rebuttal.
+ 1
LGBTQ are more than four times as likely to attempt suicide than their peers (Johns et al., 2019; Johns et al., 2020).
". Suicide is the second leading cause of death among young people aged 10 to 24 (Hedegaard, Curtin, & Warner, 2018) and lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, and questioning (LGBTQ) youth are at significantly increased risk." The Trevor Report
4x more likely.
Why are lgbtq Youth prone to drug and alcohol abuse b?
Because of reject from people like you, their parents, the church and Friends.
The gays weren't killing themselves at these rates until false teachers like you started saying this abomination was ok. They kill themselves because they aren't dealing with the guilt of being in open rebellion against God through proper repentance.
Their suicides are on the false church and false teachers like you.
And immeasurably worse, those souls will be in hell because of wolves like you.
BearN said:Waco1947 said:. It's not a rebuttal. The lgbtq youth cohort commit more suicides by percentage of youth than straightsCanada2017 said:Redbrickbear said:Suicide is up all across the board in modern America.Waco1947 said:
1. Suicide among the LGBTQ community are out of proportion to their cohort. Really, really sad.
2. Parental and peer and societal and ecclesiastical pressures can be overwhelming negative to a teen. The threat of hell by non denimations is also a source of self revulsion.
YET I am repeated reviled because I do not think it is a sin. Churches which are supposed to be centers of healing and good news are instead sources of hate.
3. Talk about suicide if you suspect someone of idealization of it. Educate yourself.
4. Go to Safetalk for more information on teen suicide.
Its an epidemic that is NOT limited to people of one sexuality, race, gender, or region of the country.
Trying to tie high LGBTQ suicides to Christian moral belief (and Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist belief as well) is just a blood libel and a low political tactic.
LGBTQ also have higher drug usage rates and higher mental illness rates than the general population..is that all the fault of Christians? YES it's your calling it a perversion. But not ALL but it's certainly in the mix.
Excellent rebuttal.
+ 1
LGBTQ are more than four times as likely to attempt suicide than their peers (Johns et al., 2019; Johns et al., 2020).
". Suicide is the second leading cause of death among young people aged 10 to 24 (Hedegaard, Curtin, & Warner, 2018) and lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, and questioning (LGBTQ) youth are at significantly increased risk." The Trevor Report
4x more likely.
Why are lgbtq Youth prone to drug and alcohol abuse b?
Because of reject from people like you, their parents, the church and Friends.
The gays weren't killing themselves at these rates until false teachers like you started saying this abomination was ok. They kill themselves because they aren't dealing with the guilt of being in open rebellion against God through proper repentance.
Their suicides are on the false church and false teachers like you.
And immeasurably worse, those souls will be in hell because of wolves like you.
There are a lot of self loathing wolves out there….and social media provides them a nation wide audience.
Little wonder so many kids are getting damaged .
HOW is anything I just said arrogant posturing or hateful condemnation? How am I being a jerk standing in judgment? I literally just stated the gospel which offers loving forgiveness from God through repentence and faith in Jesus, and even said that Christians who are only hateful and condemn others for their sin should be criticized. You're just arguing with the straw man you built in your mind.Waco1947 said:I am not lying to them I am affirming their humanity. Unlike you who is condemning them to death in a fiery hell even though God is a God of grace.. Shame on you for your arrogant posturing with some kind of righteousness that is misguided when it comes to these kids. They need love not condemnation that somehow the fact that God made made them and God has made a mistake. How sad you in the evangelical church are. These kids have a Enough time was living life without jerks like you standing in judgmentBusyTarpDuster2017 said:You lie to them.Waco1947 said:I tell them the truth, "God loves just like you and wishes for you the same sexual fulfillment as straights that is, within loving, committed relationships." Your message is "You are an abomination in the eyes of God." I am guessing my truth affirms them and keeps from possibly destroying themselves.Wangchung said:Or maybe it's because they've been lied to by people like you and suddenly feel hopeless when all your garbage turns out to be just that, garbage. You push false hope through permanent damage. A trail of dead led astray youth lay in your wake. Not garbage but hope against your vile representation of them.Waco1947 said:. It's not a rebuttal. The lgbtq youth cohort commit more suicides by percentage of youth than straightsCanada2017 said:Redbrickbear said:Suicide is up all across the board in modern America.Waco1947 said:
1. Suicide among the LGBTQ community are out of proportion to their cohort. Really, really sad.
2. Parental and peer and societal and ecclesiastical pressures can be overwhelming negative to a teen. The threat of hell by non denimations is also a source of self revulsion.
YET I am repeated reviled because I do not think it is a sin. Churches which are supposed to be centers of healing and good news are instead sources of hate.
3. Talk about suicide if you suspect someone of idealization of it. Educate yourself.
4. Go to Safetalk for more information on teen suicide.
Its an epidemic that is NOT limited to people of one sexuality, race, gender, or region of the country.
Trying to tie high LGBTQ suicides to Christian moral belief (and Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist belief as well) is just a blood libel and a low political tactic.
LGBTQ also have higher drug usage rates and higher mental illness rates than the general population..is that all the fault of Christians? YES it's your calling it a perversion. But not ALL but it's certainly in the mix.
Excellent rebuttal.
+ 1
LGBTQ are more than four times as likely to attempt suicide than their peers (Johns et al., 2019; Johns et al., 2020).
". Suicide is the second leading cause of death among young people aged 10 to 24 (Hedegaard, Curtin, & Warner, 2018) and lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, and questioning (LGBTQ) youth are at significantly increased risk." The Trevor Report
4x more likely.
Why are lgbtq Youth prone to drug and alcohol abuse b?
Because of reject from people like you, their parents, the church and Friends.
The proper Christian message to LGBT youth is that they are sinners, as we all are. But we have forgiveness through Jesus Christ if we repent and believe. No matter the sin. It's a fair criticism of Christians if they approach them with hostility and condemnation without love and support.
But affirming their sin, as you do, is a lie straight from the Devil. Ironically, you ARE causing them to destroy themselves. May the Lord shut your mouth from speaking these lies, and close their ears from hearing
them.
You say you are affirming their humanity. But the Christian message is that "humanity" is sin - it is brokenness, and is headed for destruction, thus in need of salvation. By affirming their sin, you prohibit them from escaping destruction through repentance. No one is saying to angrily condemn these kids to a fiery hell for their sin. But to truly love these kids, you tell them the truth. You don't lie about sin and about the true gospel. That is hate. And a very serious judgement awaits you if you do this.
the alphabet people have always had a higher incidence of mental illness & suicide.Harrison Bergeron said:whiterock said:That data indicates you have it exactly backwardsWaco1947 said:I hope you never have a LGBTQ child, niece or nephew and grandchild, or friend who has a gay child or grandchild because you will do great harm. And if you spout this idiocy in Sunday School class or small group you will deeply hurt the parents of LGBTQ chikldren and grandchildren.Canada2017 said:Redbrickbear said:Suicide is up all across the board in modern America.Waco1947 said:
1. Suicide among the LGBTQ community are out of proportion to their cohort. Really, really sad.
2. Parental and peer and societal and ecclesiastical pressures can be overwhelming negative to a teen. The threat of hell by non denimations is also a source of self revulsion.
YET I am repeated reviled because I do not think it is a sin. Churches which are supposed to be centers of healing and good news are instead sources of hate.
3. Talk about suicide if you suspect someone of idealization of it. Educate yourself.
4. Go to Safetalk for more information on teen suicide.
Its an epidemic that is NOT limited to people of one sexuality, race, gender, or region of the country.
Trying to tie high LGBTQ suicides to Christian moral belief (and Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist belief as well) is just a blood libel and a low political tactic.
LGBTQ also have higher drug usage rates and higher mental illness rates than the general population..is that all the fault of Christians?
Excellent rebuttal.
+ 1
Wake you are killing kids. Yes, killing kids because your beliefs are destructive to them and lead to suicide. Stop it.
His uneasy grip on data and facts is well known.
Being gay is celebrated and cheered yet suicidal ideation increases. It's almost as if the wages of sin is death.
(disclaimer: no cause/effect implied).
Waco1947 said:It's true but tough to hear . I had lunch with a transgender today and she talked about the abuse of church members.Jack Bauer said:Waco1947 said:. It's not a rebuttal. The lgbtq youth cohort commit more suicides by percentage of youth than straightsCanada2017 said:Redbrickbear said:Suicide is up all across the board in modern America.Waco1947 said:
1. Suicide among the LGBTQ community are out of proportion to their cohort. Really, really sad.
2. Parental and peer and societal and ecclesiastical pressures can be overwhelming negative to a teen. The threat of hell by non denimations is also a source of self revulsion.
YET I am repeated reviled because I do not think it is a sin. Churches which are supposed to be centers of healing and good news are instead sources of hate.
3. Talk about suicide if you suspect someone of idealization of it. Educate yourself.
4. Go to Safetalk for more information on teen suicide.
Its an epidemic that is NOT limited to people of one sexuality, race, gender, or region of the country.
Trying to tie high LGBTQ suicides to Christian moral belief (and Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist belief as well) is just a blood libel and a low political tactic.
LGBTQ also have higher drug usage rates and higher mental illness rates than the general population..is that all the fault of Christians? YES it's your calling it a perversion. But not ALL but it's certainly in the mix.
Excellent rebuttal.
+ 1
LGBTQ are more than four times as likely to attempt suicide than their peers (Johns et al., 2019; Johns et al., 2020).
". Suicide is the second leading cause of death among young people aged 10 to 24 (Hedegaard, Curtin, & Warner, 2018) and lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, and questioning (LGBTQ) youth are at significantly increased risk." The Trevor Report
4x more likely.
Why are lgbtq Youth prone to drug and alcohol abuse b?
Because of reject from people like you, their parents, the church and Friends.
What a shameless slander
Go look up Chloe Cole or any other person in that situation. I blame you personally 1000% for what happened to them since we are taking the moral high ground here. It's true but tough to hear.
Abuse probably means "church members believe in science."Jack Bauer said:Waco1947 said:It's true but tough to hear . I had lunch with a transgender today and she talked about the abuse of church members.Jack Bauer said:Waco1947 said:. It's not a rebuttal. The lgbtq youth cohort commit more suicides by percentage of youth than straightsCanada2017 said:Redbrickbear said:Suicide is up all across the board in modern America.Waco1947 said:
1. Suicide among the LGBTQ community are out of proportion to their cohort. Really, really sad.
2. Parental and peer and societal and ecclesiastical pressures can be overwhelming negative to a teen. The threat of hell by non denimations is also a source of self revulsion.
YET I am repeated reviled because I do not think it is a sin. Churches which are supposed to be centers of healing and good news are instead sources of hate.
3. Talk about suicide if you suspect someone of idealization of it. Educate yourself.
4. Go to Safetalk for more information on teen suicide.
Its an epidemic that is NOT limited to people of one sexuality, race, gender, or region of the country.
Trying to tie high LGBTQ suicides to Christian moral belief (and Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist belief as well) is just a blood libel and a low political tactic.
LGBTQ also have higher drug usage rates and higher mental illness rates than the general population..is that all the fault of Christians? YES it's your calling it a perversion. But not ALL but it's certainly in the mix.
Excellent rebuttal.
+ 1
LGBTQ are more than four times as likely to attempt suicide than their peers (Johns et al., 2019; Johns et al., 2020).
". Suicide is the second leading cause of death among young people aged 10 to 24 (Hedegaard, Curtin, & Warner, 2018) and lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, and questioning (LGBTQ) youth are at significantly increased risk." The Trevor Report
4x more likely.
Why are lgbtq Youth prone to drug and alcohol abuse b?
Because of reject from people like you, their parents, the church and Friends.
What a shameless slander
Go look up Chloe Cole or any other person in that situation. I blame you personally 1000% for what happened to them since we are taking the moral high ground here. It's true but tough to hear.
This. 1000x this. Biggest parenting mistake I made was giving my kids smart phones way too early.OsoCoreyell said:
I'm going to sound like a nut here, but parents, keep the smart phone away from your kids as long as possible.
Dig and be dug.
Consider how the gaystapo wants you to give them life-altering, untested medications and cut off their tits or willy.bearhouse said:This. 1000x this. Biggest parenting mistake I made was giving my kids smart phones way too early.OsoCoreyell said:
I'm going to sound like a nut here, but parents, keep the smart phone away from your kids as long as possible.
Evangelicals hate to be blamed for lgbtq suicides because it makes them feel guilty. The arrogance of the evangelical Christian's is over the top. They think they know the mind of God about sin. And they refuse to admit that their theology of eternal damnation means lgbtq kids and adults are going to hell. Blind guides just like the Pharisees who thought they had the last word on God. Jesus said, "No you don't." Love is the last word.
Waco1947 ,la
Waco1947 said:
Evangelicals hate to be blamed for lgbtq suicides because it makes them feel guilty. The arrogance of the evangelical Christian's is over the top. They think they know the mind of God about sin. And they refuse to admit that their theology of eternal damnation means lgbtq kids and adults are going to hell. Blind guides just like the Pharisees who thought they had the last word on God. Jesus said, "No you don't." Love is the last word.
Get thee behind me, Satan.