Porteroso said:
4th and Inches said:
ron.reagan said:
There is a big difference between not believing left wing ideas will help climate change and being an arrogant idiot.
there is a big difference between actually solving climate change and what the left is doing
Thats true, however it's a generalization. The right generally denies the science of climate change, so i can't blame the lefties when they are defacto slightly ahead. Neither side doing much good but at least one side doesn't put its head in a plastic bag when the dreaded phrase is uttered.
I think this is a good opportunity for self-awareness and reflection. Often the lack of self-awareness of many - particularly on the left - leads to talking past one another. I admit there is probably a lot more diversity among conservatives, but generally it is actually the conservatives that take a much more scientific approach compared to the Burned Over District preachers that's become the loudest, regressive voices.
- Science is acknowledging that much of the issue is based on computer-generated models with human inputs can be (and have been proven) subject to manipulation
- Science is acknowledging to think we had accurate global temperature data 150 years ago is foolish
- Common sense is acknowledging there is lots of grant money to be had fuming global warming or cooling but virtually none to be skeptical or practical
- Science is acknowledging if we stopped all man-made carbon emissions today we might reduce the temperature 1 degree in 100 years
- Common sense is realizing nothing the U.S. or the West does will have an impact when China, India, Russia, and the developing world does not care
- Science is realizing a smarter strategy would be to focus on mitigation efforts in the few areas that might be at-risk in 100 years vs. telling everyone to eat bugs and walk
- Common sense is realizing t'science has told us we were all going to freeze to death in the 70s, burn to death in the 90s, and none of the eschatological preachers have been correct
- Common sense is realizing those crowing most about global warming or global cooling all have beach front mansions and a individual carbon footprint larger than many small nations
- Common sense is realizing 99% of what the t'experts claim is due to global warming or global cooling is incorrect, so if they're lying why should anyone believe them?
- Science is realizing weather is not climate change, and common sense is realizing t'experts are lying when they say every time there is a record high it is global warming and every time there is a record low it's just weather
If covid taught us anything, it is disinformation can easily be used by t'experts to fan social hysteria and be a tool for authoritarian social control and that t'science can be a tool of authoritarians. It infects even ostensibly intelligent people - I was on a call at work where someone said (and was not questioned) that hurricanes and wildfires are worse because of global warming - both patently untrue and easily proved wrong to anyone with a basic intellectual curiosity. But we have the largest collection of highly educated morons in human history.
The left has this weird lack of self-awareness that it is reactionary. Virtually every major issue from global warming and cooling or the culture war starts and gets exacerbated on the left. No one would object to smart environmental policies that ensure clean air and water and soil and thoughtful, reasonable, multi-faceted strategies to reduce carbon emissions. But after constantly being fed disinformation, every time some t'expert says eat bugs, buy a Tesla, and stubbed toes are caused by global warming or cooling, thoughtful people start to tune out.
My point is instead of buying into the right-wing bogeymen of divisive "climate denial" rhetoric consider a more balanced, thoughtful approach and realize that if the regressives would not always go to 11 on every issue then conservatives would trust them more ... not you per se but the regressive left in general.
Ironically - another anti-science, lack of self-awareness - it is the things the regressives want to stop are all the things that have mitigated 99% of the impact of climate- and weather-related events.
