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BornAgain said:

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Is it illegal for Hunter to use classified docs in getting multimillion $ deals ? Seems like it to me. But If the sitting President can declassify docs at any time does that excuse his family also? It appears to do that. Any of us would be in jail

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I would be surprised if he could de-classify retroactively ... and he stole documents as a senator and vice president. Not sure we've ever had a more corrupt president. Maybe the Clintons and their "Foundation."

Normally I would suggesting waiting for evidence of specific malfeasance, but one thing has been clear is the willingness of the state and the state media to cover up for the Biden Crime Family.

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He could. It could then be litigated, depending on what the XO did or did not say about retroactive declassification. But it probably wouldn't go anywhere.

The punishment for a POTUS who mishandles classified documents is political, arguably as it should be.

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To clarify ...

1. Biden steals classified documents from time as Senator
2. Hunter and brothers use documents to secure payments / gigs

Can China Joe declassify today and it apply to 2016 so Biden Crime Family is free and clear?

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I feel fairly safe that SCOTUS would reject the argument he could do that.

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"LOL. No court can encumber POTUS with procedures for declassification. If a POTUS says, 'it is declassified,' that's it. All procedures set forth in XO are for those to whom he has delegated power, not him. He may change the policy at any time, for any reason, in any way, for any length of time."

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A court can most certainly prevent a POTUS from acting in violation of his own executive orders. What they cannot do is write the Executive Orders for him.

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How could he act in violation of the order if the procedures in the order don't apply to him?

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The Biden scenario of retroactive declass is quite a separate issue from the MAL scenario re conventions on Presidential handling of classified material, which is that an originating officer may be presumed to have changed procedures if their actions deviate from established order. No court could be expected to rule, for example, that a POTUS should have to interrupt an arms control summit to check & see if disclosure of a particular piece of intelligence to one or more foreign officials or advisors in pursuit of policy would be allowable under an XO he wrote. His actions in pursuit of policy would presume to make or amend that order. That is a fairly uncontentious scenario. As would be a POTUS carrying or keeping a piece of classified material into personal quarters for review. (which is a relevant context for the MAL scenario.)

That is quite a separate thing from fiddling with a prior order to cover unauthorized use of classified material by a person who at the time did NOT have Presidential powers. SCOTUS will hold a high bar for ex post facto statute, so why should we expect anything less on XO? I would suspect they will tell him it is pardon time.

The issue at hand concerns a solely executive power like classification authority, which is quite a separate thing from fiddling with prior order on statutory enforcement issues. Courts have already limited that power. DACA is a recent example. I didn't agree with the ruling but it is law.

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I realize they're separate things, but what does it matter? If the order doesn't apply, it doesn't apply to this, that, or the other.

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Doc Holliday said:

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DOJ claims the classified documents Joe illegally stored at his various homes and offices are too sensitive for members of the House intelligence committee to review.

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