Your questions were irrelevant, seemingly conflating my personal views with what it means to be conservative. Since we both apparently agree that how a person votes and their positions on certain issues define their conservatism, my personal views are not germane to this discussion. Whether I feel strongly about an issue and whether the issue I feel strongly about is conservative are two different inquiries.Sam Lowry said:No. Their statements and voting record are important. But you didn't answer my questions.Mothra said:Do you believe "conservative" to be some fungible concept, with no clearly defined parameters? In other words, if a person such as Oso "feels" he is conservative, that means he's conservative, as long as of course he's voting his "conscience," regardless of the issue or candidate? What role, if any, does a person's voting record or positions on issues play in that characterization, in your mind?Sam Lowry said:How do you distinguish a candidate who's merely opposed to your worldview from one who is "diametrically" opposed? Is it just a matter of how strongly you feel? If Oso doesn't feel as strongly about a particular issue, can he vote his conscience and still be a conservative?Mothra said:Depends on the alternative, and how strongly I feel about the policy at issue. In the case of the Ukraine war, it seems only a handful of Republicans oppose funding it. So what good is it to vote for the Democrat on a policy that is largely bipartisan?Sam Lowry said:I'm against the war, but plenty of Republicans other than Trump are for it. Both US senators from Texas, for example. If you don't support it, will you vote for people who do? Isn't that a distinction without a difference?Mothra said:You already know the answer to this one. It's one of the reasons I voted for Trump, as he kept us out of unnecessary wars.Sam Lowry said:Is the Ukrainian proxy war against your conservative values?Mothra said:Sam Lowry said:So you do vote for things that you don't support.Mothra said:Not agreeing with a conservative candidate on every issue is quite different from supporting a candidate that is diametrically opposed to all things conservatism.Sam Lowry said:Do Republicans do anything that you don't support?Mothra said:He's now pretending that his vote for a wokester like Rochelle Garza, the AG candidate who supported defunding police forces, was "committed to restoring abortion access in Texas," wanted to unionize Texas, and wanted to expand LGBTQ+ rights, is not a vote for any of those.Ghostrider said:a conservative that votes for abortion, illegal immigration, higher taxes, etc. You sure?Osodecentx said:Mothra said:
You can call yourself whatever you want. Bottom line is you vote for the party of wokeism. I am just glad you've finally admitted it, and dropped any pretenses you were actually conservative.
Know thyself.
I'm the true Conservative, not Republican hack
In other words, he doesn't support those things, he just voted for people who do. What he doesn't realize is that's a distinction without a difference. He's stupid in that way.
Surely even someone as intellectually dishonest as yourself won't deny that.
How many Democrats did you vote for in the last election?
To reiterate, my obtuse and intellectually dishonest friend, I don't vote for politicians who support policies that are diametrically opposed to my conservative beliefs. No reasonable conservative would.
Tell us, which Democrats did you support this last election cycle?
Since you didn't vote for Trump, tell us, are you in favor of proxy wars against Russia? Or is that just something you're willing to accept as the price of getting rid of the mean tweets?
As I tried to explain to you above to no avail, I don't vote for candidates who are diametrically opposed to my conservative worldview - much like yourself. It's the same reason you have never voted Democrat, or could not support someone who is pro-choice. No reasonable person who claims to be conservative would vote for a candidate with views that are diametrically opposed to his own purported views. That's insanity.
And yes, supporting a candidate who will work to employ policies that are the antithesis of conservatism is supporting those policies, whether tacit or not. It's pretty shocking that any reasonable person would try to defend such logic (or lack thereof).I never have, unless you count Trump as pro-LGBT. I suppose I might, if the candidate a was moderate on those issues, they agreed with me on most other things, and their opponent was exceptionally bad.Quote:
So, it sounds like you have never (and would never) vote for candidates who support such issues because they are opposed to your conservative beliefs. Correct?
So, unlike Oso, because you are conservative, you would not vote for a candidate who wasn't conservative. Correct?
