whiterock said:J.R. said:yes, I remember. Laura Trump, huh? Grifters gonna grift!. Trump and the rest of his grifting family has blown up the Republican Part of which I used to be a member.whiterock said:J.R. said:I don't want to be in politics. Never have. I do get the Trump deal. We have a bunch of ignorant people (MAGA and always Trumpers) who just don't understand he knows NOTHING about the middle class, moreover, he couldn't care less about them. He is in it for him and him only. If people cannot recognize that, well I guess one of the reasons they are middle class. He is nothing more than a Queens Con-Man! I just do my thing the best I can regardless of politics. As far as the Wally World shopper is concerned, I have always found it very interesting that the Walmart Shopper will be the first to jump on let's bring back jobs to Merca. However, those are the same people who insist on the lowest price possible, which Wally does. Moreover, these folks do not seem to understand that to get the price they want, it has to built or manufactured in Asia as we cannot get to the cost here in Merca. How much do you think you iPhone would cost if it was built in Merca and not by Foxconn in Asia? 3 times as much, easy. Trust me, I was in that business.whiterock said:yes. quite a bit smaller local service business after leaving government.. annual sales of 7 digits, which I doubled in a 10 year period. Now manage a region with 8 digit sales numbers for a family owned manufacturing business with sales of 9 digits. What the two have in common is experience working directly with customers to understand and attend to their wants/needs (regardless whether or not they were right in their reasoning). I participate in our commercialization process precisely because of my understanding of how to resolve the conflict between the conceptual things ("perception is reality") which drives the marketplace versus the concrete & steel of production (what can be made) and the black & white of regulation & liability issues (what can be claimed). I am always amazed at how hard it can be two get those three realms to communicate in the same language.J.R. said:yes, one start off with $2M which wasn't much back then. The other started off with $440M. Have I ever had a business with customers? Yes, I ran global business development for a $15B public company. I was responsible for 10,000 people. Customers all over the world and I was all over the world with them. Additionally, did a start up and had customers everywhere. So, yea, I kinda think I I know. How about you? Have you ever owned a business with customers?whiterock said:Pretty narrow distinction. Neither of them started off poor; one of them had a $2m head start. One of them sneers at the poors; the other praises them.J.R. said:Romney is self made. Trump is not!whiterock said:
Had dinner Monday evening at home with wife and our mayor who is a single black female, mid50's, not partisan political at all. Special ed teacher. Never held office. Father had a couple terms on the council. She served one term on the council the challenged a sitting mayor and won big on a platform to fix potholes and is doing exactly that.
With some mixed feelings she is going to vote Trump. She can put up with the theater because he gets stuff done that matters…
The neverTrumpers could be missing something big because they believe it best to double down on the Romney class that has greased the skids for the progressive agenda that got us into this mess and is offended that ordinary people are outraged about it.
JR you are engaging in garden variety class snobbery and don't even realize it (just like Romney).
And most notably, one of them has actually won a presidential election.
"MAGA ethos...." Class snobbery at its worst.
Have you ever had a business that had customers? ....that had to understand how ordinary people think, the thought process that drove decision making, then craft marketing appeals to them to influence their behavior in a market (rather than judge how stupid they were for not being a millionaire yet).....
That is the gate you and many others fail to clear on the Trump phenomenon. You don't even try to understand it. In your case, you think leadership of executive teams to achieve quarterly metrics gives you special insights into the world of politics. Not. The. Same. You are not alone. That is the bias of most donors. What that thinking misses is that the percentage of people with true wealth is very, very small. Matters of principle are all most people have. And there are no monthly statements on that. it's a worldview. You can either appeal to it, or deride it. Latter is very small-mind thinking, as it alienates a far, far larger universe of voters you need if you are to attend to the things important to you. but oh no. That involves getting inside the mind of a Wal-Mart shopper with a GED. Way easier to ridicule those folks out of the public square. Because, you know...you know better.
You can't win calling your customers (or voters) stupid. If you really are that much smarter than them, then you should be able to lead them around by the nose. If you can't/aren't, then it's you who are the stupid one. In most cases, it's not inability. It's unwillingness to even try. Ridicule affords status (at least in the mind of thse who engage in it).
Success in business is not a particularly good indicator of success in politics. You know nothing, Jon Snow.
Gotta be smarter than the cow, JR. A cow is an exceedingly dumb animal, but if you throw a rope on one and try to force their best interest upon them, they will use superior physics to drag your ass all over the pasture. But a single old man who knows what he's doing doing can get a hundred of them to walk into the pens where they can be crowded into a squeeze chute and.....well, I don't know if you've ever worked cattle but let's jsut say you don't need a sonogram to determine gestation on a cow.
Trump has figured out how to get the Wal-Mart voter to turn out en masse for him. And also weaned away the Hispanic vote (which he's now winning in several polls). And large parts of the black vote. And he's winning independents in most polls. Romney couldn't do that. McCain couldn't do that. Dole couldn't do that. etc......
If Romney was so smart, why didn't he win in 2012? Why is he virtue posturing in the wilderness now? (Because he thought the Wal-Mart voter was a liability and shunned them). Democrats never, ever, NEVER step away from their crazies and try to marginalize them. The NEVER do what you are doing now. They figure out how to use them to win.
It is amazing to see how exceedingly bright people can be so blind when they step into politics. Never fight with your base. Never. EVER. It's a guaranteed loss. Every. Time.
Remember our discussion on Lara Trump?
I'm already getting texts from her. The program to fire up the base is underway. She was an excellent choice as DC/GOP. If you can't figure out why.......
Scott is wildly popular with grassroots. And election integrity means we will be raising money to litigate to protect the wins.
Solid steps that were not done before…..
https://www.theepochtimes.com/us/lara-trump-to-tap-scott-presler-to-lead-rncs-legal-ballot-harvesting-5608493?utm_source=Morningbrief&src_src=Morningbrief&utm_campaign=mb-2024-03-17&src_cmp=mb-2024-03-17&utm_medium=email&est=AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAbeMgcBIF25To7bwC8GZWBiBNufRzRx4RN%2FWJiaPigFE%3D
This is what they're trying to exploit. Trump campaign has historically excelled at drawing out the low-propensity voter. Moving those ops in-house could help the party do better, too.
Trump is making sure the GOP does what the donor class thinks it's too good to do - organizing the grassroots of the party.
It's not just the polling showing low prop voters and non-registered voters heavily favoring Republicans. We've been running AI and machine-learning inference models in key battleground states, and they are all very much in line with the polling.
— Rich Baris The People's Pundit (@Peoples_Pundit) March 15, 2024
A serious GOP GOTV effort for…