Redbrickbear said:Bear8084 said:Redbrickbear said:Bear8084 said:Redbrickbear said:whiterock said:There are a few of us here with direct experience in foreign policy/national security/military execution, and as best I can tell we are in general agreement in support of Ukraine. The most outspoken voices for the con argument seem to be computer screen generals. Apologies in advance if I've mis-interpreted anything,Redbrickbear said:Quote:Admire your patience attempting to educate those who can't comprehend how we got into WW1, WW2, Korea, Vietnam, Kosovo War, Iraq War ( twice ) and Afghanistan.Quote:Zero political and media opposition is not democracy no matter how much you pretend it is.Quote:I'll likely have a larger response later, but Doc's comment here once again shows a fundamental ignorance of both Ukrainian and world history.Quote:Get the picture...Quote:
By what measure is Ukraine 'soverign', by what measure is it a 'democracy'?
1. Under martial law
2. Banned all oppositional parties
3. Banned all oppositional media
4. Not allowing its male population to leave.
If that's democracy, so is Iran, China and North Korea.
What happened?
If those things disqualify a country from calling itself a democracy, the US isn't one either. If you were to poll American men above the age of about 93, you'd find that almost every one of them was either drafted or enlisted in one military branch or another to avoid being drafted. If, God forbid, we ever have another world war, we could find ourselves in that position once again.
Mandatory military service is nothing new. And you don't have to live in an authoritarian state to subject to it.
Maybe Ukrainians should be allowed to vote?
I'm tired of being told "If we don't stop Russia in Ukraine, they'll take the whole Eastern Europe!" by the same people who've said for last 15 months that Russia only has two more weeks of missiles left and that Ukraine is kicking their teeth in.
Somebody is lying.
Unfortunately our current leadership doesn't know either, or at least doesn't care.
Judging by the kind of push back you guys get on sic'em365 most Baylor alumni don't care either.
No, we care a lot. It's why we advocate for supporting Ukraine.
The disastrous foreign wars that Washington has gotten us into over the past 25 years are just forgotten like a fart in the wind.
Disastrous? Expensive, for sure. Poorly executed, it could certainly be argued in many cases. Failed to achieve strategic objectives? Some, for sure. But disastrous? All of them? Unserious assertion....
Sitting at home from their computer screens in Waco and DFW they are ready to spend trillions more on wars in God knows where if the talking heads in the media tell them its needed.
The computer screen generals on here you dislike want to prevent any more stupid wars and useless blood shed.
The keyboard warriors you advocate for want to see a shooting war in Eastern Europe that drags the whole damn continent into a blood bath…one that could turn nuclear…or even global if China got involved.
And as far as "national security experts"….you wonkish sh*t heads have failed in a spectacular fashion over the past 25 years. Wasting trillions of dollars, getting thousands of American young men killed or wounded, displacing & killing millions of 3rd worlders, and in general making a mess of things globally.
Maybe it's time you boys sat down and shut your mouths for a while?
LOL. Maybe it's time you vatniks should stop boosting pro-RU BS.
"Reds under the bed" is now any politician I don't like is a Russian bot.
You Washington security state goons need some new material
You are fully aware of the useful idiots on Twitter that you share, correct? Truth hurts.
And the conspiracy theories you fall for over and over again...
Conspiracy theories like Trump was a Russian agent?
Buddy your side has been spreading conspiracy theories for decades.
Remember all the lies your side told to get us into the Iraq war disaster?
It's time your side took a time out
LOL! Uh huh, as you continue to share RT-funded grifters and vatniks.
